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people that i think they use that it's a long stick with a hook on it one of these big hooks or these sticks were also inside of this ship there must have been several million dollars worth of jewels just standing there i mean i'm sure they were probably well there's a lot of

them as big as around the quarter and blanket and some of them were uncut also in this room was most beautiful things from each land were gathered were gathered there from different lands were put on display there that someday the entire world can see these again there was gold silver onyx iron brass silver and linen all the records show that the year of 1936 will be the beginning of the year of disturbance which was true and turmoils including wars storms and lands of season with resulting unrest groups and masses after 1956 the time of adjustment follows and then the world enters a new period as shown in the king's chambers sometime between 1938 and 1958 this area era is the beginning of the development of an unusual

nature many in many ways terminating in the year of 1998. now this is all on record there they knew this so far ahead then so the lord or whoever had this wisdom knew all this so far ahead of him

they have predicted as far as the record that i've seen now that predicting what's going to happen way up to 8 1998 it will be a time of preparation for the coming of the master of the world not necessary not necessary to the actual company the time in which no man knows it will be a period of great spiritual reawakening and a new understanding new life and new faith there will be new advancement in the field of science concerning the balancing of forces of gravity by which the pyramids of scalp were built today man stands again on threshold so that this spaceship where jesus went to heaven

went or through his planet most of you people like it has to me i remember like i told you when

i went to school i couldn't quite how jesus left this earth and his planet or through heaven

millions of miles away when we did go up there and this spaceship that is today buried there

in tune that's hard to reflect a relic that they told me this door has been closed but

the same man that opened it yesterday morning has been sealed for thousands and thousands of years years i'd like to get back to this meeting and say well we'd have plenty of time we went over

the soviet union uh yesterday afternoon where this uh dropped back to earth is very he shuddered to

hear that we are again who i heard over the radio this evening highly again they do not want this to

happen and again i want to tell from myself that the people have told me that we shouldn't fear

an atomic war there will never be an atomic war that there might be an atomic disaster like it did in russia or whether it's russia hires that

atomic bomb it will fall back on our own land destroy ourselves and sell a haven instead of

having an atomic war this state claims and will not let happen there will never be an atomic war

we might maybe russia will shoot that first upon his farm if we do go to the arctic circle again

where i wait that's all this it's still melting over there it will but the ice is still melting over there and breaking up although it is

not that lines up about on this trip the next more people go with you when you go on these trips

just of course i can't answer i don't know i never asked them to take me they tell me when they ask me that i would like to go and i'm actually i'm always ready for them to take me at this time when i left the ship this was going to take place and they said they

left me knowing plenty of times. They said, this time there will be five of your friends go with you. I was very pleased to hear that. Friends will be, I do not know. Nobody knows that but them themselves.

They will pick them as they see fit. When it will be, I do not know either. But our next trip will be the Tura planet. And I said, how many planets will we visit? And they said, we'll visit at least a little time yet.

Some people have heard of the Carney incident that happened there in 1957. Who hasn't heard of it? Hold up your hand, will you? Well, in 1950, I'll cut it short and give you the highlights of it. On the fifth day of November, 1957, I was buying grain in Nebraska. And I went out and looked at a field of grain. And I happened to go up toward an abandoned road or an abandoned farmhouse that turned around. So it would not turn around on the highway. I noticed a large flash ahead of me. I drove up to the river. I thought maybe there was a flashing tree there. As I heard about it, they were going to put a new highway through there. I drove up to this bank. And I got within 100 feet of the bank, my car stopped. I thought maybe it was a rough road. It was wired to jiggle off or something. So I switched on a key several different times, but it did not work. I got out of my car, walked through the river bank. And you know how a river bank is. There's a lot of weeds and brushes and willows and stuff like that.

And my first timing, when I said, let's go. I walked through the weeds there and the willows. I thought there was a half inflated balloon set in there. I walked a little closer and there was a beam of light shot out of this ship. And it hit me around the shoulders. I don't know whether I was scared stiff or whether paralyzed. I couldn't walk. There were two men who came out of this ship. And of course at this time I got a little closer and I could see it was no half inflated balloon at all. But a large silvery ship sitting there on four hydraulic reins. There were two men who came out of this ship towards me and asked whether I was armed. I told them I was not. They searched me and searched me. But they didn't take anything away from me. This was the beginning of my experience with the spaceship. Before that meeting with the public I would hear about the spaceship that had been sighted. I didn't believe it or didn't disbelieve it.

It burned the leaves out of me. I went inside the ship this time. And from the outside the ship was entirely closed off. There were no windows, portholes or anything. Same as these other ships that I have been in since. But when you get inside these ships you can look up or down the two sides to see the entire country side. They are transparent. And I have been with them now.

There are always four men and two ladies on this ship. And they have seen. In this large mothership there are quite a few people in it. I would say there are about 30 or 40. The duties as I don't know. Or why they always have to stop there. I never had time to do that. I never asked them. But getting back to the Carnegie incident. I was inside of this ship for about 30 minutes. And after they were through whatever they were doing there. They said they. I would have to leave. I didn't think I would ever get out of that ship. Because I saw there was a Russian ship man. The German scientist. He was looking for the subject. As it was circling Europe. That was the second day after the subject went missing. But I got out. I need to tell my people that. Before and they will see it again. In the near future we will all know what it is about. I got out of this ship. They took off. Went straight up into the air. When they popped their 12 feet off the ship.

It turned to a pitch black. Then threw a blueish thing. But this time about 200 feet in the air. It took off in a south-western direction. And it hit the pier. I didn't know just what this ship was. Although I remember when I was there. Carnivine rain. I would hear. The government would put out on the radio and TV. That they wanted sky watches. For anybody. Seeing any unidentified objects. You sure ain't let them know. I thought it was probably my duty as a citizen. To let the government know. That I was there.

I thought it was probably my duty as a citizen. To let the government know. What is going on. I really didn't know who to tell. So I went to see the illicit minister. The minister of my faith. Of Parnia, Nebraska. He wasn't home that day. I went to the Parnia. Pull him what I. When I asked for the sheriff. There he said. They made a safe for me at the courthouse. I went over there and told the sheriff. What I had seen. And the sheriff said. Well we'll drive out there and see. On the way out there. You said. There's quite a coincidence. He said. Did you hear that. And I said. Yes I saw his fire. And he said. No I saw the fire. did you hear that? I said, yes, I thought it was a fire. He said, no, somebody had reported an unidentified object flying for a time. It was just about 11 o'clock and I ran over to the pistol. We went out there and he was convinced that this large ship had been sitting there. We went back to the

police department and he told them what we had seen there. Again, we went out there with a police car. This time we took the sheriff along, county attorney, city attorney, got out there and they were all

convinced that there had been a large ship sitting there. The sheriff and chief of police had talked to several farmers that had congregated around there and wondered what was going on. They said, yes, they had seen the large, the big truck.

They left me out of my hotel. I thought I had done my duty as a citizen. I was very

much relieved to get it off my chest. I went back to my hotel. I had me I was watching a local TV station there. They shut off the local TV station, the local news, the local programs and put on news. They flashed and they put on their, the spaceships had landed at Harney and Nebraska. The officials at Harney called the spaceships. I didn't know what they were. I didn't know what to call them, anything. Pretty soon the telephone started ringing at the hotel where I was staying and I was completely flooded. The telephone called pretty soon. The chief of police called me and he said, come over to the police station and help to answer the telephone. We were completely flooded. There was fog. I went back to the police station and the telephone said, I'll answer

one dot five. We answered the telephone. Until that night, until about, well, we answered the telephone all that night, at nine o'clock that night the chief of police made arrangements for himself,

his chair, and myself to go on a local TV to the local station.

And the chief of police, the county attorney there, told the entire world that they verified my story one hundred percent.

They had a lot of witnesses there that had seen it and they knew that, they didn't know where the ship was from, but there had been an unidentified officer.

And we didn't know how they were setting that. Also there were two local businessmen that were hunting peasants there and they said that they knew that the recording was still locked in the vaults in

Hunter, Nebraska. There were businessmen there and they said they must be a good business.

At three o'clock the following morning we made several trips back out there to the river and showed some more people what we had found there.

The air force came in about three o'clock, about five o'clock the following morning, about that time. tell repeat the story that i have seen and i get the clothes put it on a tape recording close that they stayed talk to any of the airport they wanted me to change my too big for us we can

handle it we want to quiet the people down and we want you to change your stories as we're going to change our and tell the entire world we've never seen anything i told them well they could do that if they wish to but i didn't intend to unless it was for the security of the united states if i didn't i would tend to the hospital the following the third day the mental hearing

one night above the fire department can sit in on this as a mental hearing has to be held

published in the courthouse this is held back a locked door one midnight on top of the fire department he didn't find out but he did find out that he found out too late from a cop on a street where they're holding this journey it only lasted three about three minutes they asked me several questions he said that uh i still maintained i've seen his chest and i said i said they didn't you said how i felt about the people of harney and bradson i said i had no hard feelings for the people of finding your doctor they won't know whether i went to the mental hospital i had tests i said no i didn't intend to unless they did they'd have to save them they did we went to that's midnight five minutes after midnight i was in a hospital of hastings in bradstown the following morning i went before a bunch of doctors there about 30 doctors and nurses and they asked me a few questions mostly by the skip and they asked me if i want to ask them any questions

and excuse me setting outside the recreation

doctor come up there and he asked me he said i don't know what i came up there for i said i didn't know what was my what was my idea he said well we'll have to give you a few uh tests and i said okay i wanted them to said

we all have to release you we have passed all the tests i asked you that all your tests you can give your patients they sent me here and you said oh no we have lost more and i said i want you i looked at myself and to the public now i want you to give me every test this hospital knows how to do that i was there for two weeks i took every test that they knew how to do at the end of two weeks i again went before these doctors and they asked me how i found myself i just felt wonderful they said that uh this is long ago i won't forgot

anyway they didn't ask me any questions anymore and i uh was excused again mean that my doctor walked out to the recreation hall my employer from los angeles california was there and i knew he was quite mad i knew he was mad at me because i know my boss at that time and he asked me how i get along with fine and he doctor he asked the doctor what i was kind of getting along with y'all just fine he passed all the tests and he said are you going to release him he said well according to law we hold him three more days he said you mean there's nothing wrong with him no he said he's passed every test we're giving 100 enjoy health he said well i'll tell you what to do you release him tonight because if you don't i'll fly with three of my lawyers over here in this hospital i have one of the biggest losses you ever seen i was out of there in five minutes said i'll send you a release by mail i went back to carnegie nebraska and we'll start buying grain oh i might tell you one little thing

i was just quite a kick from the crowd uh well i was in the hospital i was there two weeks well over two weeks i was there it snowed and rained so i couldn't bother me going anyway and then my boss of expenses everything hotel bills i got along fine with all the nurses the doctors except the

psychiatrist i didn't get along so well with him i remember when he told me to come through his office he said i'm going to ask you a series of questions he said tell me the first thing that comes to your mind whether it answers your question or not the first question he asked just asked me he said who do you think is smart george washington abraham lincoln i don't know

the question he asked me he said if you wanted a human being what would you do to be i said i'm going to be a psychiatrist he slapped his book chatter his questions around i said is that all

you're going to ask me he said yes he said our record don't stand up and call me i went back to carnegie nebraska my boss went with me and we put a ad in the local paper there that read something like this the crazy brain bar from california is back again and would like to put a four o'clock i was again swamped with telephone calls all around the territory there are farmers wanting to tell me they're going so i was there for about three months and peppy

uh went with me and we came back to carnegie nebraska and put on a lecture there for three days the first night when we had our lecture there at fitwood in the outfield hall there it was quite snowy and blizzarding there we didn't have too many people i think the first night they were 50 minutes before we went to our lecture in the western sky a radio announcer called us that we

had been on radio and tv that afternoon he called us and he said don't quote me but he said look in the western skies here in the western skies back and forth there's one thing that he says approximately

300 people in diameter this would tilt this way and tilt that way change flashes there were three different cigar tips like i had been on many different times and i've been on for 55 minutes before the lecture came out the paper i think that's about all i have to tell you this evening

i'm sure there's more people here wanting to talk to you or else we'll have a little break and i know that some questions are some answers that's maybe a question you would like to ask and if i can't ask them why i'll have their impressions here i do i want to thank you all for your kind attention i'm sure glad to see a nice crowd here like this and i hope next time when we take the tour of the planet that you can all go with us the tickets out

now we'll give a book away for a little prize i'd like for all of you to uh please note that we have

our president of national understanding and founder daniel fry standing in the back of the room 196.

196. in the booth there of your room well it looks like you can't ask i don't know this pyramid has all this certain room has been sealed for thousands of years i guess but the paper where the books and tablets where the books and tablets were there they were just the same as if they were laid there today they didn't they weren't ages this beautiful there's no air suggest to it i know they didn't disintegrate when we open the door

more detail about being listed what did they say to you to you from the off the road with my car

you can imagine driving up a steep ramp that's the sensation i got them i know i was over 10 feet off the ground when i don't remember even entering into the ship until after i was in the ship and they greeted me and just said how did you and how i was feeling and just like anybody else and then we went on with our conversation and even coming out of the ship i was left out of this ship yesterday they settled down on the ground and left me out over the ramp but i have been left out of this ship and teleported back to earth how high up i'd have really gone on

yes there will be a disaster but that's no uh atomic war now they didn't tell me anything about else our storms when we're going to have flood tornadoes or anything like that they didn't meant that but are you let's be sure there will not be no atomic war that's all they told me and i believe that when these people tell me that i believe it why are the people on the place yet people are the same people i have seen for different many different times there are four men and two ladies i've judged to be about 40 to 45 years old but i know there's one man who's several thousand years old the ladies weigh about 120 pounds dressed in american clothes the dark complexions have dark hair they're very well built and very good looking the men are about five feet six eight inches tall and weigh about maybe 180 200 pounds they also are dark looking and they talk with a german accent that has confused many people why they talk with a german accent i have

heard these same people talking in spanish language so uh voices or languages mean anything to them under the pyramid

into one of the pyramids walked again a large door on a large wall there this man had this little pencil light i would call it a flashlight like we use the same light that stopped me or paralyzed me there in carnegie nebraska he pulled that out of his pocket shot it again the wall and this door opened up and that's the way he closed it but i've not been known as well

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yes the guards probably seen us enter the pyramid and there are rooms that have never been opened yet and this room that we were in with a spaceship has never been open for just two months it's been sealed after thousands of years and there are some more rooms uh this one room that is sealed which was very heavy metal and uh there are records and nobody has been into that

view the satellites do go around in circles i guess that's all they got to do they're helping

us in any way but we've seen these very same satellites uh i've seen uh here a while back in that there's about a dozen different satellites orbiting the orbiting the earth now part of ours is part of russia there's really only three orbiting the earth the rest is picked up by these spaceships and i'm sure that they could pick them all up uh we went right on through to egypt to russia and back over the arctic circle and back here to california they have no trouble with anything what they call the mystic uh the mystic missile that was our ship because we could see it

on the monitor where they were uh chasing up with jets and uh they were just playing with them they just whenever we want to get away from we just they could just fly away from so fast and also when we were in washington dc uh we've got it on their monitor where they were talking about the mystic missile there was also a mystic submarine under the water that they're trying to locate the people who operate the other spaceship in the world in south america this

i cannot answer these people have never told me that there were unfriendly space people i have never seen them myself i have never contacted them or they haven't contacted me and these people have never told me that there were unfriendly states see that's about all i can answer about that i told you uh most of the audience when i came back to

arctic circle at that time i was on that tip for four days this time i was on their tip for three days all i eat was little wakers about the size of an alpha saucer uh guinness thick and a little grayish in color they're very pleasing to your taste one day i'll eat two of those this last since last tuesday until the season i took off that skip i only had two in two days i felt like i wasn't hungry tonight when i come uh yeah i'm not hungry yet a lot of the women say that they would like to have some men waiting for we could get a hold of the limiting of dishwashing or cooking the pyramids were it was right inside especially in this

your pyramid where the other cameras were all lit up this pyramid where the spaceship was uh when we uh when he opened this door uh he uh shot this light again this spaceship that's in there the entire spaceship lit up the same as the one they're flying around here now uh how that works he didn't explain it to me and i never asked him you know walking into the like i said we just he'll start with this little uh pencil light that he had there and that's how he closed it again you are going to focus i can't say again they told me that whenever they

come from saffron here they visit about 2 000 other planets they didn't tell me where they were or words but where we're going to that we are going to visit approximately 2 000 other planets when we go on a tour of the sun just where they are i couldn't say i'll tell you more about that when we get back they talk to me in american language the same as i'm talking to you today

with a german accent among themselves they would talk a lot of times in a german in a high german language i could understand that too because i went to a german school i was confirmed and graduated in a german school i used to write read and talk almost as well as i can imagine spaceship be the same as if i said to this planet i didn't

know what planet he went to but i know he did go to a planet or if we read in our bible to heaven uh he must have went to another planet because he was taken to another planet in this spaceship turned by one of these men and they're still there on display is it possible now for others to find

answers under the family i would say no unless this man this ship is with you and has this light

or he knows where to look for i know that i couldn't go back there i could just about tell where we walked in there if i get there but i'm sure i couldn't open it so that is sealed again now uh probably until it will be displayed to the public which might be uh quite some time i really wouldn't want to say when it will be displayed to the public but it will be to the public sometimes it's very hard to say where these tunnels all run to and then what

direction when you're underneath the ground uh if they're not now they're not working on it or building any more pyramids so that's why they won't run into any of the tunnels there unless they do start building again and uh just i don't know whether they will ever do but there is one of them that the sands are just being that it's coming almost to the top of the earth atomic bomb accident that you mentioned i have mentioned several different times it never did

come out in the paper but i have a book sent to me from washington where the right after the wrestling quit using atomic bombs and we did too uh i might go back a little farther and say uh when these people were from fashion was telling me that uh we have to quit using atomic bombs i said well we're a very stubborn people how are you going to stop us from using atomic bombs they'll say they told me they said maybe we'll have to do like you people people say just slap one back in your face about two weeks after that one was clapped back in the wrestling space they set up a tremendous powerful bomb instead of it going up it fell back on the wrestling territory that's that territory i've seen yesterday afternoon and it looks terrible there's nothing going there and there never will nothing go on that ground for years and years because the whole ground was pointing there were trees and buildings and whatever there was nothing but active and the ground was completely black again there was when

this atomic bomb fell back on the russian territory uh russia invited all of the other nations to come and see what this atomic bomb had been uh of course we didn't hear anything about that in the papers but i'm sure they went and seen that because shortly after that we all quit using the college bomb the rest is today atomic bomb again and that would happen for tried to use atomic bomb for war again it won't

hit the other side only to drive out on the highway it would feel nine o'clock tuesday

morning and i returned as a typewriter in the machine the typewriter on this

i wouldn't say the small chip is two and have a typewriter on the mother's gut and that's why i typed this type letter i have in my article type one

not being seen the spaceship landed uh in the hills there pyramid is approximately

60 feet in diameter and it's too softer and it's approximately 60 feet that's the small

tip i have ever seen artifacts appears under the pyramid now that this here room was it

lost in the erupting camels were being covered by the volcanic ashes the presence of killed wire

turmoil of wars atomic bombs atomic bombs and how it was affecting the nation it showed also what was happening to some of our

missiles mechanical failures and why some of us were disseminating also it showed that what could

happen to the future use atomic bombs for war purposes and use it for people with our cities

there was no main attack to a token lock any place where this please cross-section

i don't feel for putting a budget out for a bunch of buildings uh without wheels also it showed where every block or so it would

walk down and be there stopping on the picture uh that's you or a vision of a picture that you saw

was projected on a blue ship uh this thing means the spaceship uh yes it was uh as far as i can describe it with this big round globe about the size of this size watch cut the outside the inside will be involved also in the globe so it's a big round globe but the inside will be involved also in a globe but the outside was standing still and the inside was turning very slowly and there's where it goes the past present and future you would have first contact where the 24th

can you tell us uh how long you were gone at that time i left the state of sea about 9 o'clock in the morning was back at four at that time where you uh how were you picked up i was told to drive

out east of baker's field on the highway 466 after a four mile east so i can remember leaving the

the roadway, the next thing I knew I was in a shift, how high the shift was up, but I do not know, I can't remember that there was, because I didn't know how they were going to pick me up, could you describe it as being a desert road or an isolated spot, no, it was a 466, there's a highway, a bit of traffic there, but a lot of times there is, and there's not too much traffic,

I got a four lane highway, a two lane highway, and your 1958 G-League with you at the wheel was lifted up as you were driving down the highway at the speed of approximately, probably 30 or 40 miles an hour,

because I knew they were going to stop me, I didn't know how, but I thought they would be landing someplace and I would drive up on the rack, so I was going, I would say less than 30 miles an hour,

but then, you have the awareness of your Buick being lifted up off of the pavement for about, how far, I would say not over 20 feet, now I don't remember anything after that until I was inside the shift, what was the first thing you remembered after you were inside the shift, when I was inside the shift, these men were standing there and they greeted me and welcomed me aboard, were you sitting inside your car still, yes,

I was still inside the car, and then you opened the door and they stepped out and they greeted you, was your, is your Buick automobile secured, or did you just set the brakes as you were, I usually just set the brakes as I would on any highway, or on any parking lot, where did you go,

from there on we went as near as I could tell, just right over Montana, northern part of Montana, we went inside of this large ship,

made 4,000 feet long, I would say 500 feet wide, and quite high,

what was the first ship that you made contact with, how long was that, that was a car in the back on the 6th day of November, 1967, that was the first time I ever arrived that we're talking about, that took place on January, January 24th,

24th, was your fourth experience with it, that'd be the first second, yes, your fourth actual ride aboard a spacecraft, yes, that craft was how long, that craft was about 200 feet long, 30 feet wide, and about 15 feet high, this is a crane craft, the one this is back there is like a, like a, I went to the Huttage Circle in Las Albas, when you were rendezvousing with the mother ship, could you see this ship, could you see the mother ship as it approached, yes, that's within a certain distance from us, I could see this large ship, how would you see it, through the side, most of the time when we were flying, we were flying sideways, not straight into the wind, the side wind, or side of the ship, about 200 feet wide, flying sideways, facing forward, facing forward, and you can look up down, or through either side of the ship, you can't look to the end of the ship, you can't look to the end of the ship, because there is another position,

and that's where the cars were kept, and the pieces were, the side of the ship appears transparent, just like you were looking through glass, up into the scene below, yes, it just looks like you're sitting in a large glass house, and, but from the outside, looking into the ship, you can't look from the outside into the ship at all, it acts similar to a one-way mirror, yes, how long would you estimate this mother ship to be? I estimate the mother ship to be about 4,000 feet long, and they also told me that this was exactly the same length as one mile. I guessed it to be 500 feet wide, because I know the ship that we came in there was 200 feet long, and they just set in their truck where the strike was so high from the moon left. To observe how you entered the ship, how did you get to this large mother ship? Well, just the same as you got into the glass door, the big ramp there was open, did a hatch or a ramp open,

was the opening in the bottom or the top or the side of the mother ship? It was in the bottom. A ramp opened in the bottom, and you went, the craft more or less led up onto that opening. Yes, the opening was at the bottom, but at the same time, it was open high enough, so you could almost go right straight into the ship. You didn't have to kind of... It was like a large hangar door, only it was on the bottom part of the craft, so you could almost just go right straight in to the hangar deck. Then as you came inside, what would your description of the interior of the craft be? This has a lot of these places that show the past, present, and future, and it also has sort of our little satellite, a number of these blue screens placed around on the flight deck.

How many would you estimate that you observed? I would say there was at least... Would they be operating all the time, or only when they wanted to see something? I think probably only the time when somebody wanted to look at them or something, because they wouldn't like it operating all the time, I could say. And at that time, did you observe events taking place in them? Yes. Like I said, a little before the past, you just mentioned that. And you mentioned that a number of Earth-made missiles were housed aboard this ship.

Does that insinuate that the space people had captured these missiles and taken them out of orbit? I would say so. They picked them up. They had some of our missiles there. They had some of the Russian missiles there. And how they picked them up, I do not know, but they are on display in this large ship. And how many would you say are displayed there? There was at least six of ours in these pathways, not many of the Russians. What would the largest size of one of those missiles be? I think the largest size of a missile would probably be as long or as tiny. I would say at least 60 feet. Were all those missiles lying on their side or were some of them perpendicular? No, they were all lying on the side. All lying on the side. Did they give any explanation of how these missiles were captured or why they were captured? No. Did you at any time ask questions of the space people or do you make a practice of that? Or do they just tell you what they want you to know?

They just really tell you what you want to know. A lot of people have asked me, they have said, if I was in a space craft or with these people, I would ask them a thousand questions. You think of a thousand questions to ask them before you get into this ship. When you get in there, you forget them all. Unless you ask whatever they want to. You think that they have some method of blanking out your mind so that you only think of the craft and what they wish to ask. Yes, I would think that would be the way. That's what it seems to me anyway. At that time, did you have anything to eat while you were aboard the ship? No, not at that time. Not on Sunday. On that January 24th, I did not. And did you observe other people aboard that? Yes, I would say there were 25 or 30 other people besides us. What were they doing? They really wasn't doing anything where I could see just kind of standing around walking from one institution to the other.

And were these people dressed as we are? Yes, they were dressed just like any American would be dressed. And if they would walk along the streets, you would have to see them before you and never notice them, no one from any other. None of these people wore special uniforms? No, they had no special uniforms. Did you speak to any of them other than the six people that normally accompany you? No, I don't. The only man and woman that is aboard this first ship that I have seen as kind of that and have seen several different times since that, they were the only two. They were the ones who used to greet you and they were the different when you leave them. Is this the greeting, the spoken greeting? Yes. And then they say hello, Smitty? Yes, they say hello, Smitty, because they said that's the way most people call you everywhere, so you look if you're a woman, they call you Smitty, which I appreciate very much. But there's one man and there's one woman

who carry on most of the conversation when you are aboard? Yes, always. And do they have names that they have given you? Yes, I know the names of all six of these people, but they tell me not to reveal these names because the names wouldn't mean anything anyway, and sometimes you will miss one of your other contacts and they'll mention our name, and you may have left two of the two or a few of the two contacts. Oh, I see. So this is somewhat of a test for you, a way of verifying other two contacts were these same people. That's right. And these people that you speak of, where are they from? They're from San Jose. And do all the men and women in the crew speak?

Yes. Many of them I heard talking, they always talked, most of the time they would talk in a high German. I know it was high German, because I'm a sophomore in a Sunday school. Have you heard them speak any other language? Yes, I heard them speak any other language. Do you ever hear conversations aboard the mothership

between any other persons there in which, well, if you were able to determine the language which was spoken by other passengers? No, I never heard them mention a word to each other, although I know they were talking to each other, but it must have been telepathically, because I could tell if they, by the way they were, that's not a statement, but you know, I could tell if they were talking to one another, but they spoke no words. Were you introduced to any of these people, or did you come in very close proximity to them? Not too close to them, but I had lived close, but I wasn't introduced to any of them. Six crew members of your 200-foot ship get out and walk around the interior of the mothership? Yes. What would you describe the nature of the interior of this craft? Was it a huge hangar deck, or a hall, or were there many different floors? One floor. That was the main floor. Not too much in a short time. I'm sure there were 15 quarters there,

or places where they could rest, besides this large floor, 500 feet wide. Yes, I would say it was at least 500 feet high, would you say, the ceiling of the hangar deck? If we came in there, it was approximately 15 feet high, and there were about 30 people. There may have been other decks that you did not observe at that time. Yes.

And you, here, you got aboard your, did you observe the takeoff of the mothership?

Yes. Did you see packages to it? Would they ever,

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to that question? They did at first, when I first took a question, they said, well, we cannot tell you that. And after that, after the second time, I noticed a thought, which came into your mind,

where, I see this, thank you. Yes, I see my thing. I remember,

did you,

and they didn't explain the reason for the stop?

No, over 20 minutes. Did you see the nature of the scenery? Oh, yes. You could observe through this window, like glass, all the time. Yes. No snow around? No,

not too much. There was snow, just where it was, keep track,

or could you see on the view screen? Yes, I could see on the view screen, although I couldn't, have a knowledge of them, similar to our radar scopes, in order to interpret them. Yes. So, what was the information, was that right? We landed, two or three times, you're saying? We landed on your way to Egypt. Right on your way to Egypt. Yes. Two o'clock in the afternoon. Two o'clock in the afternoon, and you landed in Egypt, where? We landed, to me, it was east of the pyramids. How far east, would you have sand dunes, at that location? Oh, there's some of those, that are quite high, and some are low. Higher than the ship? I don't think, yes, there were some of them, that's the ship, I looked back, and I couldn't see the ship. So, it was obscured. Yes. Obscured, they could have, perhaps, put a shield around the ship, so that it would appear invisible. I think they put a shield around, so it wasn't visible, because of dunes. Do you, that you, could have normally seen,

the ship, unless it had, some sort of protective, invisible, shielding around it? That's right. Did they ever explain, that, to you? No, they never did. I never asked them, they had never explained it. And, when you landed, how did you, depart from Egypt? We just, we went down this ramp,

that you normally come up, is that the only entrance, and exit, that you have observed? No, there's two exits, one for each car. There are little, maybe sets of one ramp, and, my viewers, or anybody else's car, is located, in the same, end of the ship. Yes. Is that the button, that you noticed, when they, No, I have never noticed, that how, them ramps, let down, but I'm sure, Did you just, walk towards them, or, like, automatically, like, some of our, electric eye doors? Well, that's what it seems to me, like, you just walk, part of them, and they, would open up. And, the ramp was, still, only 18, inches off. Yes. And, you walked down the ramp, and, they drove the, automobile, is it? Yes, they have. And, what color is it? It's kind of a, either a black, or a brown, or a, you know, blue, or a, uh, a, brown, or a, uh, a,

a,

a, having a lot of audience out there everybody will see this it wasn't just a money digging around the pencil yeah we actually i looked back with it and it wasn't there for it so the uh board the ship

remained for a day one of the ladies and uh the man drove getting the man then you uh then what

happened did you drive to the uh the great pyramid yes we drove up there and walked inside you parked your car outside is there a regular automobile similar to ours these mgs parking lot in these uh

were they did some of them look like u.s make or were they a foreign make oh there was a lot of uh most i never paid too much attention to these automobiles but the biggest fair were seemed like the small cars for now foreign-made cars many people visiting the pyramid at that

time of day yes there were quite a few and uh was there uh any admittance starts to uh

the pyramid men not that i know of i never paid anything and i don't know whether they did or not i'm sure i don't know walk in were there any uh tours being conducted uh that you knew of uh there

was tours being conducted but uh it seemed before we knew it we was by ourselves we weren't following the tour found that you were more or less isolated and then what's happened we went to uh we looked

around there a while then went to this main place that they picked me up there for this man walked up to a large wall there made of solid stone he took this little flashlight pencil flashlight out of his pocket i call it pencil flight thing he shot it again the wall with a big stone wall it must have had to have some area to go inside did it get a nature was there plenty of pyramids

in the corridor it seems to be like there was anyway in the main corridors of the uh the pyramid

no uh to which the public were admitted no you've entered

no The first door that you had not been opened in what individual who closed the door 2,000 years ago?

Yes, after we were inside this passageway we were walking in there was another, several different passages.

Where did the air come from in these records? Were they on parchment paper, on metal, or a typewriter long?

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Did they have to go to a store and purchase a typewriter in ages? No, they had a typewriter in the mothership, these notes that you took.

After 1956, the time of Justin followed, and then the world entered into new periods as shown in the King's Stanford.

Sometime between 1938 and 1960, the beginning of the development of an unusual nature in many ways, terminated in the year of 1998.

It will be a time of preparation for the coming of the master of the world. Not necessary of the actual coming, a time which no man knows. It will be a period of great spiritual reawakening of new understanding, new life, and new faith. There will be a new world. There will be a new advancement in the field of science concerning the balancing of forces of gravity by which the pyramids itself are built. It's part of the biggest pyramid there. It seems like the year of 1998. That is as far as their records show. There are records that go from that farther. That is in a pyramid that has never been opened. They have buried records there in different underground pyramids

which have never been revealed to our knowledge, that carry these prophecies to a much greater time in the future.

That's beyond the year 1998. Yes, they have. I'm just trying to find it here. Anyway, it's in another pyramid where the records are from 1998. I don't know how far it is. Another pyramid in that same complex of pyramids. Yes, in a different passageway. I see. It is locked with heavy doors and steel. You can see this door. It has never been opened. You can see that door which leads off from the room that the spaceship was in? Yes. Did your Mr. X say that he would be the one to open that door at any time in the future? He didn't tell me that, no. Who was going to open that door? How or when it was going to be opened, he didn't say. Now, how extensive was the information in these records? How many pages of script would you say it contained? I would say this was quite heavy paper. I would say there was written on both sides.

All together in the book forum? That's the way we find them. Our books is... I never paid that close attention to them. But it seemed to me like they were closed together. But you just turned the pages? Oh, yes, yes. In a kind of a loose way? Yes. To make notes on all this information, but how did you select the information to make notes on? I just went through it as fast as I could and just took the main ones. They showed me there where the most of the... I would want, or what the people would like, how these pyramids were built. How did they get them? How did they get them so high at that time? They attempted to point out a few of the highlights in the records to you. Yes. On which they made notes. Yes. Can you tell us a little bit about the origin and the date of origin of this pyramid according to these records? Yes. The Pyramid of Giza was constructed 10,390 years B.C. And the other one was constructed...

The Great Pyramid was constructed 10,400 years B.C. It was 100 years in the building. Inside of one of these Great Pyramids, inside of the Great Pyramids, there is a hall for those dedicated themselves to the special service.

Now, nobody gets in there either. As the records show here, the end of the Earth Cycle would be in 1998. Now, nobody has yet entered this special area as yet. No. Not as yet. And the Great Pyramids cover more than 13,000 years. The Great Pyramids cover more than 13 acres and measure 750 feet from each baseline and 481 feet in height. The Great Pyramid is the only one that has a square base and is built a huge block with yellow lines in it. The Great Pyramid is the only one that has a square base and is built a huge block with yellow lines in it.