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investigation have appeared to look like polished metal polished aluminum and there are other scriptures for instance even the new testament the christian uh church christ says other sheep have i that are not of this fold what in the world did he mean by that you see we but we have such a theological tendency to categorize some of these things and then when something of this nature comes along we find that our foundation for the categorization is beginning to crumble i believe there's a lot more to god than even many ministers have given credit and i believe furthermore that if ministers of every religion and denomination as many of them are changing now they're beginning to have a more broader mind their aspect their thinking is not confined to the two by four religious organization i used to belong to a religious organization many years ago and they used to you Actually, call me on the carpet because I will invite ministers of other denominations to come and speak in my pulpit to my congregation.

Now, I cannot be that narrow. You see, I believe we are all God's children. I believe that there is not one church that can stand and say, well, I've got the truth and the rest of you either come my way or else. I believe this is so far exploded that it's not right. I don't believe that's right. I don't believe God originally planned for one fellow to hold the reins to the entire gang and say, everybody who doesn't hold my credential card is not in the same boat.

You see, this is getting us off of the field of theology. Now, let's get back to back to the flying saucers if we can. Yes. All right. Now, back to back to the saucers. Why have. Well, you answered that pretty well. That would not that would be really a redundant question. I was going to go back to the subject of why we haven't made more attempts to. Establish some sort of contact with these people, or do you think we really have attempts are being made right now in the state of California, as well as other states in the United States to interpret some strange signals that have been coming in from outer space.

Now, there's a gentleman over here by the name of Dr. Ronald Bracewell from Stanford University in California. This was released by the United Press back in June the 20th, 1960. He's associate professor of the Department of Electrical Engineering. And here I quote him. People on Earth, especially those owning and operating ham radios, should listen in to hear signals coming from outer space. That is, intelligent beings and communities in our galaxy. Dr. Bracewell is regarded as one of the world's leading astronomers, stating that a satellite dispatched by another civilization is now orbiting the sun right now.

The New York Times stated that Dr. Bracewell's observation. And sound reasoning have been published by the British Scientific Journal, and he's gone as far as to build these strange looking machines here that are intended to pick up these strange sounds, noises coming in from outer space.

These machines, which Dr. Stranges is showing me, look like large spotlights or large flying saucers themselves on the end of poles with a hook like a candy cane.

Sticking out of the center of them. He's an associate professor of electrical engineering at Stanford University. And, uh, I wonder what he's found out with these things so far, if anything. I really don't know. Well, there's no doubt that, uh, that it's a subject of, uh, tremendous fascination. Yes. What do you think as the time goes by, they'll attempt to make more and more contact with us? I believe so. I believe so, yes. Yes. If they find us, for instance, let's assume that the man from Venus did land. He did spend some time. He did spend some time in the Pentagon. Uh, what was he doing in the Pentagon? Helping us plan our, uh, interstellar defenses against another planet? He claimed that he was acting in the capacity of an advisor. And he said the only thing that our military men desired from him was how to build a powerful super bomb and suspended an outer space as a threat against any nation on the face of God's green earth that even look at us cross-eyed.

And he said such information I would not divulge. Now. Well, that would answer the obvious question of there would be no reason for him to choose sides when he came down here. He could give the same bomb to Cuba if he wanted to. So there's no reason for them to come down here and side with the United States of America necessarily. That's right. There's one thing in the entire research of mine that has irked me. Do you mind if I say this? Sure, go ahead. I've spoken to military pilots and, uh, to me they, and to other investigators, no doubt, they speak quite freely. But then to be put on record with a sworn signed affidavit, as many other people would sign, they say, nothing doing.

And I received this bit of information from a gentleman of the United States Air Force who's a colonel. He said that our airmen are absolutely forbidden to discuss flying saucers with anybody. And upon checking, I found the record that there's AFR-200-2. Which is a United States government order absolutely forbidding our airmen from making any statements concerning UFOs. There's also another order called the Joint Army-Navy Air Force Procedure Order Number 146. Which, in so many words, uh, state that any Air Force pilot who makes UFO information, public information,

or if they report any sightings of such UFOs, uh, to the public, they shall be court-martialed, fined not in excess of $10,000, and possibly imprisoned for 10 years. Why? For telling any Pop John Q. public walking along the street that he saw, or he thinks he saw, an unidentified flying object. But I'm glad that there have been several, in fact, there have been many airmen who have broken through this secrecy curtain, and given the American public the information that I personally, I personally believe they should know about the validity of these UFOs. Well, do you think if our people knew about it, there would be a tendency to panic? No, that is the consensus of Lieutenant Colonel O'Mara, General, uh, gentleman in Washington, D.C., and he stated that we'd have a repeat of 1938 Orson Welles scare. Mm-hmm. Now, you remember that people committed suicide because Orson Welles said that people are coming from Mars and we're going to be invaded more and more,

and he hollered for the people of the radio station, run for your lives, which they did. And in the panic, many people got killed. From my reports from the Chicago area, people actually jumped off of tall buildings. They ran in front of oncoming traffic, cut their raisin, uh, their wrists with razor blades, bled to death on the spot. Families in the Chicago area turned on gas jets, destroying the whole families. Why? Because they thought a monster was coming in from outer space and was going to devour them. But I believe the American people today are more advanced than they were in 1930, I believe there's much more intelligence among the people today than there was in 1938, don't you? Well, let's say there's certainly a greater degree of maturity and understanding, or we have faced so many calamities and disasters by now that another one or two wouldn't have the same effect it had in 1938, possibly.

I have a beautiful case of cover-up here. Up near San Francisco, two members of the California State Police saw, a strange object. Their squad car was growing red. Everything that they looked around in the car was, everything was red, and they knew that there was some kind of a red spotlight on the squad car. So the two state policemen got out of the car and looked into the sky, and here sit an inverted saucer, shining a red light down on the squad car. And one of the patrolmen said, well, I never believed it before, I thought everybody that reported these things were in the crackpot category,

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but he says, I don't believe it now. And as he was speaking, two other objects came along behind the first object. They also turned a red light on, shone it on the state police car. All right. The three objects hovered directly over the squad car, and one of the patrolmen got ahold of their red spotlight and shone it up on the craft, the closest one to it, which immediately moved out of range of that spotlight. All right. The three UFOs started moving slowly down the highway, and the cops got back into the car and just drove along, trying to keep the three UFOs in sight, until the three UFOs turned, made a right turn, and kept on going over the hill, and naturally the policemen had to stay on the road. All right. The state policemen reported this incident, and from Washington came the evaluation of what the state patrolmen saw in Washington. And the evaluation, the former gentleman who was in charge of the Information Air Force desk

on flying saucers made the statement, what the state patrolmen saw was the planet Mars and two stars. Upon investigation, we find that the planet Mars had not even come up over the horizon at that time of night. Neither had these other two stars, which name was given by this gentleman in Washington. Now, there is something going on. There's something wrong. That people will jump the gun in Washington and try to make these two cops out to look like two fools. You follow me? And I believe that's wrong. I believe if an official, or if a man, woman, or child sees something, they've got a perfect right to report the facts as they have seen it, without any rebuttal. Do you think if these things aren't, if they have seen these things, if we are suppressing them, it would be a wise idea to call for, and do you think it would be successful if we did call for, an international body of some sort to investigate these things,

because obviously if they are a threat or if they are going to come down here, they're not coming down against just one nation or one continent. They're going to come down against the planet Earth, period. I believe the best thing in the world that could happen is for representatives from every nation on the face of the Earth to get together and have themselves a good conference. Now, Canada has been more up to the subject than the United States. Canada went as far as to build a one million dollar project, and they built a flying saucer observatory which is located in Shirley's Bay, not too far from Ottawa. And in this building, which cost them a million dollars, they have all kinds of instruments of detection. And the Canadian government has given orders, strict orders, to all meteorologists, all pilots, all flyers of every description, people with short waves, to report at once any UFO that's seen in that particular vicinity,

giving all kinds of information as to what they have seen, reporting it all to this flying saucer observatory. Now, for many, many years, the United States Air Force has been denouncing UFOs. They've said there's no such thing. We have absolutely no evidence. What people see is a bug flying by, or a bird, or a goose, or a temperature inversion, or a strange light, or a reflection, or an inversion. Or a pen. Yes. But if you do see something, write immediately to Washington 6 DC, the information desk of the Air Force, and they'll send you a questionnaire with 35 questions for you to tell them what you saw. Do you have a copy of the question? Yes, right here. Name, address, place of employment, occupation, education, special training, military service. And I'll skip down here to question 12. I understand that they changed this before they used to have a question, were you ever treated psychiatrically? But they had to drop that

because too many people high in government were beginning to see these things. People like Mr. Truman, former President of the United States, and Dwight D. Eisenhower, who, in the presence of three Secret Service men not too far from Washington, did in fact stand almost paralyzed for 22 minutes while a UFO sat motionless in the sky before planes were scrambled to see what that strange thing was. Now that never hit the newspapers either. But question 12, did it stand still at any time? Did it break up, speed up, rush away at any time, break up in parts or explode, give off smoke, leave a visible trail, drop anything, change brightness, color, shape? What? The thing that the Air Force says does not exist. And then question 17, was it fuzzy or blurred like a bright star or sharply outlined? But my favorite is question 20. It says, when you see one of these things, hold your whole arm out at arm's length and put your thumb up there

to help determine the size of the UFO. And they go on to say, was it the size of a pinhead, a green pea, a dime, nickel, half dollar, silver dollar? Then they move on from the fruit department, see. Was it an orange, a grapefruit? And then they have large, and I wrote in watermelon. Well, I ask myself, if there is no such thing, why spend good taxpayers' money putting out a questionnaire? If the thing does not exist in the first place? And why threaten people with court martial if they even talk about it to John Q. Public? We're still in the United States of America. I'm an American citizen. I believe we've got the best country on the face of the earth. And I believe any force or any pressure that's put on anybody in this country for speaking out what they firmly believe is true is wrong. All right? I rest my case. All right, Dr. Stranges. You mentioned a little earlier before you went on the air that these things seem to go in cycles.

And you mentioned that you thought we were going back to about another one of those five-year cycles here in 1962 where there would be a lot of them, a lot more of them cited. Does this have anything to do with the astrological predictions we've been having about the five planets being in the same house? Did you ever hear the program called Stranges Predicts? I predict that I'm going to be in the same house as the five planets in the same house. And I'm going to be in the same house as the five planets in the same house. I predict that after February the 4th, the people in America are going to see more UFOs in the skies than they have ever seen before. After February 4th? Yes, sir. Does it tie in astrologically? It could. Let me put it that way. It could tie in. Because on February the 4th and 5th there's going to be quite a configuration of seven planets. This hasn't occurred for quite a long time, but it has occurred in the past.

And the prophets of doom here in Los Angeles were trying to talk me into moving from our apartment in Venice to some place in the Midwest because they say the St. Andrews fault line is going to split wide open and on the evening of the 4th half of California is going to fall in the ocean. And they say the whole west coast is going to be last by tremendous tidal waves and earthquakes and all the rest of it. You follow me? Uh-huh. But I don't think that California is going to suffer too much. I don't think so. I further believe that going back to 1942, 47, 52, and 57, which were highlight years for UFO sightings, 1962 is the next fifth year and that is one facet that's influencing my thought that in 62 we're certainly going to see the UFOs. So they come in cycles. They're seen to come in cycles every five years, which could be just a coincidence that it happens to hit at the same time house or there could be something to it. Very possible. Well, strangest predicts.

You have just heard facts that are strangest in fiction and perhaps we'll hear the answer to this soon, huh? Excuse me. Sure. I was going to say it's amazing during our lectures across the country how people react to this sort of thing. Everybody does not react the same. I was speaking at a banquet in the Midwestern city of Iowa and we got through with the meeting and came out to the coffee shop in the lobby of the hotel and as I came into the coffee shop my wife remained in the lobby speaking with some of the people and a waitress came up as I said at the counter and she says, oh, aren't you that flying saucer preacher? And she got a great big bang out of it. I says, yes. She said, how did the meeting go? And I just said, there are two of us. And brother, her eyes began to get large. She said, two of you? And as she spoke she leaned over the counter and looked at the empty seat next to me and I says, yes, my wife will be in in just a little while. And she grabbed

herself, oh, my heart. She said, don't do that. And it was an honest mistake. Well, I want to thank both of you who probably have in their own little questions some very, very, or in their own little minds, I should say, some very, very unusual questions about this. We'll recommend heartily that they pick up a copy of your book anyway, which is called Flying Saucerama. Are there any places where you give non-denominational speeches about flying saucers and any of our night owls may stop in and hear you or get in touch with you in any way? Yes, we're planning a lecture on the evening of February the 10th at the Embassy Auditorium on South Grand at 8 o'clock. My subject will be Why UFO Blackout? And we'll be showing many slides that I've gathered from all over the world. On February 10th? Yes, sir. Saturday evening. This gives me great faith in the fact that you believe that there will be a February 10th. Fine. That's Saturday evening, February 10th, the Embassy Auditorium.

Do you know? It's on South Grand. On South Grand? Yes. All right. So our owls will undoubtedly be there to see what you have to say and perhaps when the cleaning woman comes she'll find that many of them left no fingerprints behind. That's amazing. The book now can be gotten here on the West Coast. Can I give that address if you will? Sure, sure. Box 25724. We'll send them complete information. It's not available in regular bookstores? They're depleted. Oh, they're depleted. This is the end of the edition already. It's all practically all sold out now. We're preparing the second edition. Box 25724, West Los Angeles, California. Box 25724. Dr. Frank Strangers for flying saucer ammo. It's three dollars, isn't it? Yes. All right. Fine. Thank you very much. I'm going to lock the door when he leaves because I don't want anybody Strangers coming in here tonight accusing me of probing their world. If anybody wants to contact us for lectures or organizations,

why, they can contact my business manager, Bob Howard, perhaps through KFI. All right. Does Bob have a box number that they can get in touch with him? May I, uh, explain that just a little, excuse me, a little more fully? They can just call me in my office any time. I have a 24-hour phone and I can arrange anything for the people by calling Hollywood 51044. Hollywood 51044. Yes. That's 24-hour service we like to keep that in mind. All right. Thank you very much, Ron. Dr. Strangers, thank you very much for coming up and joining us tonight. Thank you. It was a pleasure having you. I think that we found it very stimulating. Thank you. Bye. He was sitting, it was after, you know, people had been seeing flying saucers and reporting them for some time. This scientist was sitting at his desk rather quietly and it was a little, something out of the ordinary for him to do this. He'd been sitting there and my husband said approximately half an hour he flew

from one room to another. I mean, I don't mean fly, but he ran as, just as fast as behind him and like he was, oh, we had a look in his face as though he, he actually didn't know where he were. They finally subdued him, thought he was ill. He told them he had been in a, in a flying saucer. Said he had actually been in one. He told them where he had gone. He had been gone, he said, approximately 30 minutes. He described the person and he said he was normal looking and talked to him. He could understand him. He gave him a message coincides with what your guest said. Oh, I don't know, thousands of years ahead of us in intelligence watching over us. Immediately, I don't know if he went to see and hear him on television, on a television program shortly after that or if he had a couple of lovely neighbors lived directly across the street from us. They were a little, I believe they were of German extraction also. He attended meetings. Now I can't tell you the place

because it's out on the desert where they had been for some time building. This must be at a giant rock where George Van Tassel has his headquarters.

Yes, I believe so. Members of this society, that is, I believe, are the people who have been there and listened to recordings of the actual voices that these people were supposed to receive out at their station on the desert. They believed, they really believed. I didn't see that, but I heard it, but it was very close. Well, since you're here and since Dr. Stranges has stayed in our office for a long time, I don't know if you know anything about these recordings. I mean, would it,

would that be possible for them to take recordings out there and then

recordings? Millions of people from purported people who are from out there don't know. Okay, thanks a lot for calling us. Thank you. Good night. I might explain to you, Dr. Stranges, that having five hours sometimes you may wait a while for the question to get there, but having as much time as we do and we're seeking more information than we are opinion or questions, so that's good. From what I've heard of this KFI broadcast, I believe it's the finest one that I've ever had anything to do with. Oh, you're a kind man. And I've listened closely in the past few nights to people who have come to me and said, are you going to get the book back? Or are you going to get the book back? Oh, are you going to get the book back? Yes, I'm

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going to get it back. I think that's also a good thing. So, Yes, ma'am. Well, I've been listening to your program. I had something I thought I'd better tell you. Mm-hmm. No, do they want me? Yes, fine. And then, um, estimated Francis death.

Mm-hmm. But what I'm coming to, fulfilled here.

Southern California. Mr. Strangest has a statement.

Say your name was? Hotchkiss. Uh-huh. I'm Donny and you're Belinda. Mm-hmm. Just one thing I'd like to say. If and when the time comes for causative that the good Lord will give us all a good one.

Well, I think this is, I just didn't know of that prediction.

But I think this is, it was a constellation in my backyard up in Arcadia and watched it.

Like a string and just straight together something like a round look, you know, seven million.

May not be right now, but it indicates some kind of a, I feel this way.

It tries to see it.

Adam Phoebe, huh? In France.

Just put my little.

Predictions, uh, Dr. Strangest has some predictions for the second day of February or the first day of February. I'm going to ask him about them here in just a minute. Just a second after I, uh, sell my magazines. Good morning, night owl. Yes. How are you, my dear? Fine. The only force field that I'm acquainted with is the force field that surrounds the UFOs.

Like in the case of the UFO that was sighted over Godman Field in Kentucky back in 1948 and the United States Air Force sent three planes up to investigate. Two of the planes ran out of gas and had to return to the base and the third plane, which was piloted by Captain Thomas Mantell. According to many, uh, witnesses evidently got too close to the force field surrounding the UFO and consequently blew up into a million pieces.

It's been substantiated as far as possible without implicating high ranking officers who refuse to sign any statements. As far as, uh, not eating meat is concerned during our lectures throughout America, we've

met many, many people who claim that they have been advised not to eat meat. Now. One has so advised me, as a matter of fact, when I was a little boy, my daddy taught us kids that to eat what's put before us and be thankful that we got it. I have, uh. We're talking to, uh, Dr. Frank Stranges.

S-T-R-A-N-G-E-S. That, uh. Yes.

Frank, if you would like to have any further information, I have a pamphlet called Planets on Parade. What would that be? Planets on Parade. Uh-huh. Which is all about the conjunction. You can write me at Box 25724, West Virginia. Uh-huh. West L.A. And I'd be glad to send you a copy. Los Angeles.

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Yes. That way. Address it to Truth.

Yes, Frank.

There. Mm-hmm. Apparently, because Jerry O'Connor's, uh, group down there, right?

She's, she's a member of a very, very fine roost in Long Beach, right? Well, I, I, I imagine, uh. Yeah. You do what Lena tells you to do and you'll be all right. For me, I'm going up to San Francisco next Sunday for a roost meeting.

Oh, I. Oh, I know what you mean. I'm flying up with some owls attached to me arms. Right-o. And have a good way. All right, boy. Okay. Good night. See? That's a French dialect to a friend. And I, I skipped right by there. Yes. These are the predictions. During the month of February, there's going to be landslides, earthquakes, floods, tidal waves in South America, Africa, Australia, and the Florida Keys in the United States. During the month of February, there'll be three plane crashes, two train crashes, one which occurred just a little while ago, two bus crashes, and seven famous people will die. These are the predictions. What do you base these on? I cannot reveal the source of my information. Oh. All right. We'll take another, one more call, one last call for Dr. Stranges here in just a second. And watch somebody call in about two o'clock and say, am I too late? But, uh. Hello? Good morning, Ron. Hi, Ron. Lisa. Yes, Lisa.

I have a question for Dr. Stranges. All right. When he interviewed the gentleman from, uh, Venus, did he speak the American language as we know it today? The man from Venus speaks. The man from Venus spoke English, Italian, Spanish, Hebrew, Greek, and some languages that I could not understand. To my knowledge, he spoke every known language on the face of this earth. Now, could I ask another one, Ron? Yes, Lisa. And any of the other in the Bible? And I have close to 50 scriptures that I won't take the time to quote now, but if you'll write me at my box number, I'll be glad to send them to you. Now, one more, and I'll let you go. Okay. I have a question.

I have a question.

And I do appreciate your answering them, Dr. Strange. Thank you. I would ask the man from Venus, show any preference to any denomination or any religious theological

faith. Absolutely not. He did not? No, sir. I questioned him because I'm a Protestant minister and a Christian concerning what he thought of Jesus Christ, to which he answered very favorably. I don't think that... I'm sure Dr. Strange agrees with you, Lisa.

I'm today.

Well, it was a pleasure seeing you, and there are so many people. I enjoyed it so thoroughly. I'm Harrison. so glad i hope we have another one i'd like to real soon all right lisa and thanks a lot thank you for your cooperation and coming good night good night i should explain uh dr strangers you probably don't know this we've been skirting on the edge of it all night the station has on this program and on all of our discussion shows a rule of no discussion of race religion politics creed or color the reason for that one about religion is because what it is frankly to keep the i don't want to use the word crackpots but this is true if you get into the discussion of religion you often get nothing but calls of my opinion yeah i believe this so then i hang up and the next guy calls it and says you're crazy i believe that and pretty soon we have just all these opinions you know it's like who do you favor the democrats or the republicans and we feel

that we don't that we do more harm really than we do good that's a good problem you bring in people and then everybody gets mad at everybody else and they write nasty letters back and forth and so having had some bad experiences the station says no discussion of religion because unless it would be uh a round table type of discussion uh among a bunch of recognized leaders because so many people think that anyone who discusses religion is trying to push that religion or that theological idea down their throats and other people see in almost every statement you make some subtle thing that you're trying to get and so this upsets a lot of people so as a result we have this uh no religious discussion thing on the program this keeps us from getting bogged down and in nothing but my opinion versus your opinion versus my belief hour after hour so that's what lethal is and that's what i's talking about policy and she said we prepared the discussion of religion but i suppose that you

have to uh move on out of here now we didn't want to show you a blind sauce

we have a flying saucer in the studio this is a turn it on again we come back here this is strangers just brought this in this is a uh is it a toy

Boy, you're an actual working model. That's a toy. That's the cleverest flying saucer toy I've ever seen. It'll bump against a solid object like this and move right away from it, see? It's a real flying saucer. It's got the bubble on the top, and the little man sits in there, and it's got this real screaming noise, as you can hear in the bottom, and it goes round and round. It works on a couple of fly-slide batteries. And it moves around on the table, and it's got the antenna, and it's a very weird and very, very clever flying saucer. And so now I can say that I have actually seen a real flying saucer. It goes around, and it's got flashing lights in the back that go around it. It's got lights all the way around it and everything else. And, yeah, turn off the lights in the studio. Well, where's the other light switch, right? Oh, that's all right. Only half the lights go off. Yes. Yes, it is. Well. Oh, there we go.

Now we've got all the lights off. Hang on. Now let me put it on. It's about eight inches in diameter. About eight inches in diameter, and it's got the little bubble on the top, and the man sits in there. Oh, wait a minute. We've got. Oh, look at those lights go around. It's got red and blue flashing lights, and lights coming out. Help, it's coming after me. Help. Did you see? It turned right around and came right after me. That's the worst time you ever did your program in the dark. No, no. We had a letter from one of our listeners the other day. He said, Mr. McCoy's program leaves me in the dark all the time. Oh, no. Very good. Thank you very much. It was a pleasure having you come down. Thank you, Mr. Stranges, for bringing the model back and showing it to us. Thank you again, Ron, very much. All right, Bob. Take your flying saucers and go. He plays with it all the time. It's very clever. Good night.