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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
[17:20] Main address
[52:59] Development of the main themes
[01:19:00] Questions and closing discussion

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

The following is a lecture by Tom Thomas on November the 27th, 1971, at the Inglewood Understanding Meeting, entitled UFOs in Prehistory. This combines the legends of Val Meekie, the Hindu historian, and the knowledge of modern ufology to give a revealing presentation on the grandeur of prehistory. And he has never had anyone explain his three dreams last week. He said, Sam, what would you do? In 1979, I was a geologist. I was interested in earth sciences and was studying it. I was a geologist at the University of Guttman. His son, André de Luz, Jr., and other great men, who every few thousand years, the civilization gets wiped out, and then it gets regenerated somehow. And Cuvier said, I'm succeeding that, and maybe even more than that.

What happens is that the 60-mile picture is freed, and we'll go into that, is freed to find a new dynamic balance. And it does so when you get the landmass of supersonic wind. He's up in some kind of cataclysm. The book, The Lost Minions, we know that the pretext of the increase in depth of water, the shell of the earth, and the rest of the earth, the air, makes those most extreme liquids, so it actually lubricates the ships of the shell. Not all of us can say. Caspian Sea was at the North Pole.

Wisconsin was at the North Pole. You can see that ice ages are not a matter of advancing or retreating heights. They're a matter, actually, of relocation. Existence of... One of the most striking pieces of evidence that I've ever seen is Shanidar Cave in Iraq. This was a cave which, in the 1950s, the Smithsonian Institution, under the direction of Ralph Halecki and the Iraqi Directorate General of Antiquity, explored. They found that...

...and they radio-contacted him, and he told them, Well, it's a cave. It's an ancient cave. It's a cave. It's an ancient cave. He went into it and it went into it, and the station thought it's a cave. They found it and they radio-contacted it, and they said, and stated the boundaries between these lands could have gotten into us and that could take organic matter to egypt now if you look all over the world none from india none from greece none from india this is not just for india the historian visited egypt and he told them about his

[17:20] Main address

the genealogy and the priest said to him oh solid there is no old to be again many destructions the greatest having been brought about on the fifth fire what happened either in your country or any other country any action which is noble and great or in any other way remarkable which has taken place all of that has been inscribed long ago in our temple record whereas you and other nations did not keep imperishable records and then after a period of time the usual in and leaves only those of you who are destined to those letters and education and thus you have to begin over again as children and know nothing of what happened in ancient times either among us i haven't failed

with children you remember it one value zone and the next one of which you are a seed or a remnant and this was not known to you the library of that destruction may go back from your three and i like to see this through hindu writing now you must realize that a religion at least they rewrote what they wrote containing some of the prehistory king of the gods had destroyed the titan who held the water with the earth captive in event trails he returned to the heights of the central mountain with the song of the rains and running waters only ruined so he summoned the carmen gods of work to build another power the architect set to work soon towered building headquarters each day he calls for some fresh marvel new delight for the eyes

a fever harmon is justified his labors decided to lay a complaint before the overseas indier approved and went to feed his cause before vishnu the supreme king so he had to say he had a very Soon a young Brahmin appeared at the king's palace, and demanded audience. These words were sweet to Indra's ears, and he rejoiced. Vishnu's messenger continued, It shall be the noblest of the palaces which the Indra is before thyself. The king became like, indeed, yes. The youths answered, I have seen it.

There was not an incident of that coming in their lives. Even when Vishnu, from a temple in Hindustan, did not even know that. The end of his life. People grow specifically accurate description of the end of life. Had this happened years ago. Stone ages are not made up of people. This started by smart people.

People who survived the cataclysm, and were smart enough to do what it took to fight, and win the fight for survival following the cataclysm. The old stone age, 11,500 years old, which ended the fifth one. I hardly need to trace history, before you, to play with. Three thousand or more years,

civilization. And if you read the Bible, with that thought in mind, how many here have seen, the old prince, and, her name was Elizabeth, the vehicle,

hanging in the sand, in her heart, disappeared, since he just stood there. I talked to them, in my head, how do I hear it, and how do they know my name?

Still couldn't move. The third time the vehicle came back, and this time, he said, Now move! What is it they're calling for? If he's dying, now go!

I could hear you. You must realize, that at the time this happened, the invented cycle, the equation, had just been drawn up, a few years ago. The telephone,

hadn't even scratched civilization off. Anybody could believe, what a child does. First of all, there are three things, ready today. He has his conscience, and questions are really confusing.

You take a child, who is talked to, by his brothers and sisters, full of belief, that the child is understanding, a tremendous school. You realize, the child first encounters,

the group concept, of acceptability and honesty. He learns, that not only can he, cover these two functions, but he must. Because, the measure of your,

in, why cheat, the elimination, of business world, at any time. The cost of, maintaining the time, is very low.

Your ability, to share today, at the time, without Mickey. What happens, if he don't? The only one, which was never attuned,

the only one, which is, in that, the measurement of it, without Mickey, is worth $100,000. In fact, that,

it, it's like, 80,000 dollars, for at least, 2,100 dollars, month, and year. He actually,

has a lot of money. But, the maximum, of his savings, is, 6,000 dollars, in that time. He has 8,000 dollars,

at the expense of, of his family. But, there's nothing he can, have that much, in the meantime. At the expense of, his money,

of his life. And, and the great idols. Two things are listed. Now, any thing of value in that city has long been vandalized and seized and stolen. In one of the inscriptions on this idol showing all the astronomy and calendar of that civilization, which happens to be the era before, here are two theories recorded, and the orbit of the moon is inscribed on this, and it was farther away in the pre... and sooner or later, it parted the city gates, and it fell. The two greatest pieces of evidence of the knowledge of prehistoric civilization, and the means that they had of recording this was even more fantastic. Because they did it in symbols that could be deciphered by anyone, no matter what language he spoke. Universal language.

...recycling... ...and deciphering... Fantastic. Read those two books. They're hard to get. They're in libraries. I think of the new printing of the calendar out in the... unexplained things. And I'm sure you've heard a lot of... ... things in South America on the ground and they're looked out. They just have to be navigational aids to space... ...and... ...tell the guys...

...it's a... ...um... ...it's... In fact, it's his paper, before his, he and I appeared on platform together once, where he talked about mysteries, and I talked about mysteries and answers, and we agreed that never again would we appear on the same platform. It didn't mix. But if you want answers, civilization, and I said prehistory, didn't I?

And that puts no limit on how long ago, maybe while, the name of Hale, who was a mathematician on the 18th of universe. He came up with, quite independently of any word I did, periods of regeneration. He ran a utterly fantastic in his mathematical work in deriving the structures of nature. Utterly fantastic. He's making a million dollars off of it right now because he can build natural structures better than any other civil engineer. And all of his structures are going into all the floors of airplanes, modern buildings in Japan, earthquake proof. He's just putting back and drawing royalties. And he's got factories in Japan and all. So, he can't be wrong. You know, it's funny all of a sudden. And, the problem is that we are in some civilization that is toward the end of the life.

When people, because the magnetic field energies are getting lower, thousand years between cataclysms, that we get face vehicles as a matter of course. And, we get, we can build them so big that they don't need the background magnetic field density of a galaxy or a super galaxy or even a universe. They can supply the room. Every one of these space vehicles must have its own radiation cells. You've got your ketones. That's magnetic field. And this, we can build a ship if we want to get out of the spaceship. We've got a spaceship like that who wants to leave. Just imagine, when you have a closed environment, imagine what the creation of one device becomes.

For example, see how man got. These cataclysms have to be wiped out. Of course, they have to go to a far environment of cosmic rays like we would never imagine. And survive. Have offspring totally different from themselves. Mutations of themselves. First of all, with species of humans now, we can study.

[52:59] Development of the main themes

In previous civilizations, there was a stronger, stronger mechanism for maintaining a population. It could not be cut. Let's all maintain that by this series of mutations of hundreds of cataclysms, hundreds of cataclysms in the history of the earth, that I can far more logically point to the cape and gorilla and monkey and say, he's defended from man. He could have a universe, birth of a universe on a much grander scale. And when it ages sufficiently to where the planet, or the thing might become inhabitable,

then you get a metric heat. It's like our chips. When all these universes are looking for a new universe to inhabit. Do we believe in a god? God is asserted as infinite, special, or independent of your god. He showed off because he still was a god. He was memory as a universe. As the facts within that universe, you might call it a design. Each universe would have to be its own god. It's totally permanent within me and I am god. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know.

We don't speak in the universe. We would even be speaking in your god. The revelation of god is from the bible. Okay. If you read the bible, with this thought in mind, if you read the bible with this thought, you'll see how there is all within this area of why there should be ESC.

My hypothesis sets it out so beautifully that within two weeks, I had their conscious and subconscious, their body one and body two as I call it, re-tied to each center point. They could communicate mind to mind just like telephone. The two of them could sit and converse with each other, each one saying what the other was thinking. This is fantastic. I could send my son a pack of cards. He'd get 52 out of 52.

Bridge. See, bridge and poker are all based on the ability to hide what's in your mind, right? Football. A successful quarterback, a successful football player is run when you can hide from the other team what you intend to do. The whole basis of our society is hiding what you intend to do. Isn't it? Even if it's not evil. Even the good things we do. Well,

during that time, we discovered that this is a means to communicate with him. Because it's the the manufactured communication system they have operates on the same principle that mind to mind communication. So all you do is just

join the club. When you re-tie this tie and wake up your ESP that you're born with. We got in a car one night and went out through giant rocks. First time I've ever been there. I've never been there. But we went out there, in the daytime, to look around. It was utterly fantastic. First of all,

our son, who was then six feet tall and fifteen years old, was receiving just, oh, he was just wide open. And I was an excellent transmitter, so to last longer, he would receive and I would transmit, operating as a team. And this, to teach you less, to do that. And we went around and walking around the, was it Rope Mountain near there? Table Mountain or whatever it's called.

And we were being told by people who used to live in a civilization two cataclysms ago. Or four cataclysms. What was there? And there's a place where there's a collapsed wall and they showed us this wall and the whole side of it, huh? Beautiful somewhere.

And they said, well, here's where there was a goldsmith. And you should have seen my son walking around picking up dicks from the hearth. I've got these dicks at home today. And they got gold in the pores of the bricks. And he didn't hunt. Not once. He went right where it was told to come out.

And it was so interesting a thing. And then we were told where to find inscriptions on rocks. And we found great big stickers. But what that's for is a list of the stations where the ships from Saturn. When you're doing this, you don't ask, guess. It's either just believe or believe. You just absorb. You follow me?

So that's all we were doing all day was just absorb it. All the information that came to us. And the concrete result was fantastic. We were told to look somewhere to find something. We found it. It was there. And so by the time of night, we were up so tight, we just got in the car and went to sleep.

About 2 AM, something woke me up. I looked out. And there were all these nights where you could see every star in the sky. It was just a beautiful, clear night. And I looked out to see. I looked out to see what was out there. Something drew my attention. And I saw a silhouette where all the stars were blanked out.

The same silhouette I'd seen shaped. And it got quite large. And we're seeing it again. And we got a lot of communication with it. That was another time when it was just about the same. And I thought it was a sweet time. There was nothing fearful about it at all. Another time I saw it.

I saw a small ship. It was about 200 yards away from me. Very clear. On the ground. It said he was not landed. He was hovering around over there. Everybody told me. Things don't exist.

I find it hard to believe. See, I know this. If you take any structure from nature that has mass, different mass than an electron, the easier it is to make the radiation belt and make the magnetic field necessary to fall on that straight line and have it operate within the laws of nature, so I can see where I had built the ship,

it would be easier for me to start with a bigger one, a little 16-footer. And there have been many occasions on tidings where they have measured, they have been able to duplicate conditions where currently a UFO stopped a generator of a car. It stopped the coal. The engine stopped.

It stopped the whole emission system. It stopped everything. It stopped the automotive. So the Ford Motor Company has duplicated this condition by setting up a magnetic field and they found they were able to measure the strength of the field and it was right on the straight line

for the size of the ship that was tided. And we know that it takes these concentrated magnetic fields of UFOs. We know why they do now, too. Because the function of creating gravitational fields under controlled patterns. It's the same as in a planet. You take the particle with the magnetic field

and as they go through a planet, they're broken up into collisionless particles, the particles of infinitesimal size, near-dynamic size, and they're radiated from the planet. And it's actually the flow of colliding particles towards the planet which creates the so-called pull of gravity in the planet.

It's actually a push on the outside. It's not just a thing of a pull in nature. Everything is a push, which appears to be a pull. And proposed we were able to build a planet with one North Pole and three South Poles. This means we could control the energy output from the South Poles in any direction.

We would have actually a planet which is certainly just orbit and rotate. It would be a freely navigating planet. This is the basis for any to do with any law of nature. Every bit of propulsion that we have indulged in up to now involves fighting nature. We do something to defeat nature.

The time has come where we've just got to start learning to use the laws of nature. A child who loses this connection does so because of some pressure of some kind. Now these pressures upon a child can be parental, mind or else, mind me or else, or do as I say or else.

Why is this so, my dear? Because I say so. Or an indoctrination pressure of some kind. How do you feel? Kindergarten. This is so because I say so and you believe it. Heavy pressure

tending to imprisoning the child intellectually. All of these pressures, they continue existing. These pressures are separate on a surviving state. Where you have a home where the child has an abundance of love, an understanding of the subconscious,

intellectual freedom, spiritual freedom, mixed in, in heavy portions, the child will survive it and emerge. Wherever you have a home where there is heavy pressure from parents, in the reverse,

heavy indoctrination pressure, the child can survive by his own will and determination. I have a friend who is an optometrist who lives in the practice. He's my age. And he told me that when he was a young lad of eight to ten years old, his parents used to punish him daily.

Daily. He said that his reaction was that he'd get locked in his room. This is a prison. His reaction was that he wasn't going to let this affect him. He wouldn't let it touch him. He'd lie down on his bed,

close his eyes, and he'd take trips, imaginary trips. He saw cities. He just went everywhere. He never left the prison in the practice. He really didn't know what he was doing. Because what he was doing,

he was sending his body to his unconscious body on his trip. Today, this guy, when he takes his family on a trip, he's driving down the highway, he can send ahead and tell you what every storefront is like in the city ahead.

What every car is like coming down the highway miles ahead. What all the cars are like behind you. And he survives with faith. It really depends on several things, upon the individual, and what have you. Now, we even find that there is a tragedy

that's involved. You brought this up, I've got to say. We find that sometimes, of course, when death happens, there's a brief moment in this life of ours, and it's only a few years long.

If you live to be 80, that's not even a tick of the clock. It's time. So, your conscious body dies, and this subconscious body, your whole body lives on, and that takes with it all of your memory,

your education, everything with you. That's you. That's the real you, the one that lasts a great journey, takes off on its own in astral projection. Did you ever dream you were flying?

This body, too, is taking off. Now, a child, especially in teenage years, who is continually subjected to pressures of intellectual imprisonment, indoctrination pressures, can rebel to the extent

that his body, too, will say, well, the hell with this. And not wait to demand it. Then he's free to be taken over by anybody. And, uh,

a person like this, I've met this. You've got to communicate. You cannot communicate with him blinded by him. And you can almost tick off the religious space that they belong to.

Do you think so? You know, you're doing the wrong thing. Oh, yeah. So what are your doctrines? Well, now, is there anything you can do about it? I don't know what to say about it.

It's very easy. Very simply. With one prayer, all it takes is ask for your body to react. Oh, I meant

it to someone else. I think I've got mine. I don't mean you. I mean, it's true. Well, yes. Anybody can ask. Anybody praying

for somebody else can account for the same thing for that somebody else. But this accounts for people Well, it could. There are so many reasons

for people being confined into mental institutions. The most common one, believe it or not, the most common one in the United States of America today

is the young people that are loaded with young married people. And the reason that they're there is that

the pressures from it cannot be defeated because where children are brought up

with their parents and their children are not to repel against one another.

So the only acceptable way to repel is to go into mental intelligence. Now,

man, one can't blame them for that. And there they are. Our institutions in this nation are loaded with young people

who are going through that. And anyway, it makes no difference. And if he speaks very poorly for a family relationship,

I have to treat him as a young man. But I have to treat him as a young man.

You know, I don't know if you're in that position, but I don't know if you're

in that position. I don't know if you're in that position, but I think

that we need to do You couldn't sit in that chair, that chair, unless your equilibrium system were working properly. All we are trained to honor as a signal for is our gravitational record. Now suppose, however, that part of any gravitational wave is, or gravitational field, has an information content in it.

We wouldn't care, would we? Because it wouldn't affect our record. All we care about is directional record. But if we wanted to fish that information out, how could we do it? We'd have to have a means of detecting it, wouldn't we? So I thought that, well, if we had the tips are based upon our equilibrium system, and they obey the reference, or else you couldn't move your hand from one place to another, then obeying a signal would move, couldn't it? But suppose, now, that part of the signal that we were obeying was not just directional, but an information content, or if I wanted to point to letter A, or B, or C, my arm would obey that part of the signal, too, if it were there.

Now, this is three-dimensional. Quite a job. So if we reduce it to two dimensions by having a communications chart as an object that slides over, limiting us to two dimensions, it reduces the problem quite a bit. So I put together, and I've had years of communications theory as a electrical engineer, so I put all the concepts in. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication.

Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication.

Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. Optimum communication. of furnishing our conscience with what's going on in our subconscious. It's a visual substitute for the link that we severed in our childhood. And the more you use this visual substitute, the more you retire the time. And in two weeks of using this, in a week and a half,

they were using it so fast they couldn't keep up with it, they threw it away and found out they didn't need it. They could convert it. Have you got one? No, I've not written, no. I've got a book, which will be coming out within a month or two, called Body 2, which will have the works. The whole B-flat chart.

Even a chapter on sex and for death. Which is put there by the man. I don't usually write about those things. And in it, when it comes to chart, and they tell me it's going to be sold, it's actually being handled by another publisher. Who's the publisher? I don't even know his name. I just told the guy who wrote it.

He's yelling. He's the guy who wrote the book? Body 2. Body 2. Number 2. He's the guy who managed Pat Paulson's campaign. You know, Pat Paulson was the only candidate that made money the last election. Actually, the communication chart, or the widget board,

is a very poor communication chart. It's put together by the family. This one that I have, it's an elliptic thing, and the sliding is for you to see through. It works for anybody who wants it. It's different. It's the first do-it-yourself book in ESP. Oh!

Yes. It will be.

[01:19:00] Questions and closing discussion

Yes. It'll be with the book as a package. Any other questions? Sure. A possibility to . Well, first of all, as I understand it right now, Mars does not have an organized magnetic field, single north or single south. Which means it does not have radiation valves.

It had to have had radiation valves quite recently. Because radiation valves are what make a molten outer core inside a planet. And a molten outer core inside a planet is what makes oceans on the planet. If you're left with a molten outer core inside a planet, you're left with a molten outer core inside a planet. It's almost like you have to be a nuclear warhead for a nuclear warhead, and a nuclear warhead for a nuclear warhead,

so that you can make a nuclear warhead. Because radiation belts are what make a molten outer core inside a planet. And a molten outer core inside a planet is what makes oceans on the planet. If you remember, the products of combustion are carbon dioxide and water. And that's where all the oceans on our planet come from, inside and the outer core of the planet. So, there had to have been radiation belts on Mars quite recently to produce the moisture that's still there. As dry as it is, it's still come wet. Because there evidently is a residual outer molten core.

And there had to have been radiation belts for it wouldn't be locating about in action. As it is today. Now, if you remember, how many of you have ever heard of Bode's Law? This is written up if you've ever been close to it. In fact, in the 1700s, there were two German astronomers, Teichiff and Bode. And they said, well, if you take the numerical progression, zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. One, two, four, eight, sixteen, thirty-two.

Multiply those by three, add four, and divide by ten. Now you come up with point four, point seven, one, point ohm, so forth. And these are the relative distances of the planets from the Sun. A very orderly progression. And the only planet they, the last planet they knew of then was Saturn. They didn't know of Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto. And it looked like they had found a mathematical law for the distances of the planets from the Sun. They found Uranus.

Right? So they did the next progression. They found Neptune. Everything was wrong. Not where it should be at all. Far closer than that progression said it should have been. They found Pluto. And even worse, it was where Neptune was supposed to be.

According to this progression. So they said, well, it's nothing but a mild curiosity. And they sort of forgot that since that time. Two years ago, I said to myself, well, look. If there's that much of a law that is orderly, it can't be the law that's wrong. It has to be our understanding of it that's wrong. or something so let's give it a new examination so instead of taking 0 1 2 4 8 16 32 and so on

let's take every number 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and so on let's not multiply them by 3 and add four and like right there let's just call them ring numbers so that zero is ring number one uh ring number where mercury is one is where venus is two is where earth is four is where mars is and so on uh eight is where the planets are 60 is where jupiter is then we find out that neptune is on ring number 96 and it's a first harmonic between two fundamentals of the geometric progression but it's just what i'm doing here is saying every number in the geometric progression of 2 4 8 16 32 and so on is a fundamental any number halfway between like three which is happening between two and four

is the first of the harmonics that's the first timeline between four and eight you've got five six and seven right six will be a first harmonic five and seven will be second harmonics now we find out that when the solar system was born on every ring a planet tried to be born the fundamentals made it a real big full-blown planet and when you get 31 rings apart the 32nd ring has to be a full-blown planet now that's why neptune is on a first timeline it's 31 rings away 31 rings away from pluto so you've got to have a full-blown planet since we have four major planets in the ring of asteroids this could be the basis of the structure of the system so the next four planets

the jupiter saturn radius and neptune must have a planet outside there then pluto must be followed by three more planets outside it we know they're more than one because the perturbations include well it means there are three planets outside it'll get to be discovered and a radiation and a self beyond that now when we get back in here we take a look zero is mercury one is venus two is earth three ring number three was the one the moon our moon was born on it was a planet orbiting about the sun kind of pretty terrible in its day thanks that there are a paris sedimentary rock on the planet tells us that it has to be an outer core which means it hasn't had radiation at one time long more than one figure but now

we get to mars which is ring number four then now there's three rings five six and seven what about out there ring number five had to be focal ring number six had to be famous ring number seven there's nothing there's nothing there nothing out of it it's all just where it is all right just five and six four boats and daniels close so close we can assume logically that seven which is now lost. All that happens during a cataclysm. And Mars captured all three. But 17, the outermost moon from Mars, when it started ordering about Mars, came so close to Earth that we captured it. And this is the moon that's written about in the great title and the calendar of Leonardo that the Earth used to have.

And the size of it, very small, fits with what the size showed in our own Ring of Independence. And it was captured, it was swiped by the Earth from Mars, after it was captured by Mars. And then, Phobos and Deimos are what are left of it, very close to Mars, and succeeding cataclysms could get them close enough to Mars to where they disintegrate and disappear also. So, the concept of either one of these Phobos or Deimos being man-made, I can't go for it yet. Was there ever, having been a civilization on Mars, I'm going to say that, yeah, there could have been a civilization on Mars. There could have been a civilization on Mars. There would have been many cataclysms to go. But today I would say the probability is quite low since

they don't have an organized magnetic field, and they don't have the amount of water, it appears that they don't have the amount of water they should have in order to be a good brand. Once you get rid of an organized magnetic field on a planet, it's not a good place for humans. If they furnished themselves with an organized magnetic field, you would have to do an investigation. There are many reasons. Let's talk about cancer for one. If you put any mammal in the environment of outer space, just the low-density magnetic field of outer space, beyond the radiation box, for three months, he's going to get cancer. And it is low-density magnetic fields which are the basic cause of malignant cells being generated. Every carcinogen has a warped magnetic field within its molecule, its molecular structure, and where the low-density part of that molecule is what triggers malignant cells to start. This is something I discovered as a hypothesis back in the early 60s, and in the mid-60s, the Hahnemann Medical College raised mice in this low-density magnetic field environment just to find out what happened. And 35% of them got visible cancers. Aside from that, in a low-density magnetic field, in that three-month period, the protein structure of the muscles and tissues, which is largely aromatic protein, falls apart because it does not have the magnetic field strength background for those molecules to stay together.

And lo and behold, those mice just quested, came apart on these mice. Well, they had a control group of the same families of mice. They raised them. They were able to take the normal magnetic field environment. Nothing happened to them. They didn't get cancer. They didn't fall apart, all just because of the low-density magnetic field. This is why we know, Shuck states they know that the proteins of the human body deteriorate, even in the short term, we put men on the moon, to an alarming degree. They found this in the protein structure of the eyes and the effect on the vision, and closed that down in Florida before they ever sent them up there. But they know it was a safe period of time to put them up and get them back without any permanent damage. So, this is why we're not contemplating any trips to Mars without a present space program. So, they know that human beings just couldn't stand it. We're not building vehicles that they could do it in.

If I had my druthers in this pilot, the pain of funding to design a proper spaceship with controlled gravity field, which is not outside our technology, it really is not. It's within the realm of applied mathematics, I think. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. It's applied in science. So, I think these men were the proper environment, the proper propulsion form, to get their lives in creation. What comes of that story, then? You have a question? Well, like I see in the Tang commercial that, uh... In the what commercial? Tang commercial.

Oh, yeah. They say, they're going to be living in space for three months at a time. But would they get cancer? Three months at a time? I wonder why they say three months at a time. I feel about Tang is bad because it has low carcinogens. Low carcinogens, and it's an orange-colored dog. Well, how did they get cancer? They're not going to be a good spaceman. Well, I don't know how the time went. Do you have a question?

Yes, sir. Could you tell us a little bit about your community? This is another story from another time in the coffee room. It'd be very interesting to know how things go, Stan. Well, actually, the ship was empty now, according to what we were told, except for a few. And they were just... set to crash. While we were there, they repaired a few of them before they crashed. And we were transferring back and forth there.

What was the question there? Oh, the question was, can we, can I tell them the story of the communication between the ship, uh, the mothership, and myself, that night I was gone and run? Well, the story is really long, very long. It goes back... I'll tell you sometime when the tape recorder isn't going. Yes. What, what's your opinion? The video accommodation, you know, that is a very good idea.

You didn't listen to Michael Dashenstow at that point. I don't know. So, the Amchitka shot, to me, represents the foolhardiness of our scientific evidence. But, you know, remember that this shot was being run with our evidence. Not the scientific people. Whatever scientific knowledge we gained from this was only a brief byproduct of pleading with the weapons people to please let us do this. Please let us do that.

Uh, to me, the travesty upon us is that these shots come so seldom, and yet they're always under the auspices of the weapons people, and they couldn't care less about some of the most valuable scientific information we can give them. I'll give you a terrific example. You shoot a nuclear device off. You are translating mass to energy. The translation of mass to energy involves gravitational field. The gravitational field is transmitted.

The physics of Cholesky's hypothesis contains it. It contains particles of near-zero diameter streaking across the universe at times near zero. Now, the only way to measure that kind of a field is if you have a nuclear shock in Alaska. Measuring currents within the Earth, with Earth current stations. Now, I've built three Earth current stations. One of my own hands can do it. Build some Earth current stations on Antarctica.

Coordinate your time with atomic clocks between Anchukka and... See if you measure a time delay between the shock up there and the boosted Earth current down there. My contention is no time delay. Because the change in Earth currents is not measured by the flow of current between the two, but by the effect on the change in gravity... or gravity field between the two. The change in gravity field will affect the current...

near-zero time. There should be total five seconds delay. The Russians, after their shock in the land of England, were measuring Earth currents all over the world, and all of the Earth currents put them to shame. They were taking those measurements. They could discern no time delay between their stations in Antarctica, and the shock that the land of England above the Arctic Circle.

It should have been four or five seconds. Four or five seconds. For me, it would represent the first concrete proof that instantaneous phenomena exist. Which would be the first concrete proof that ESD is a function of the order of gravity, gravitational wave. And it would explain why gravitational waves are far, far out-distance from any light wave or any electromagnetic wave. That one measure,

which we could have made... for a fraction of the cost of the shot itself. And they said, Well, hurry up. Get the shot done. Get it off. Did you know, back in the early 60s,

when Kennedy was president, when they shot a nuclear device off in the radiation belt, Kennedy got on TV and said, We're going to do this. See if it's possible to blast a hole in the radiation belt so that that's not through. I was in the Pentagon at that time, in the terms of the Joint Staff, and addressing them,

on how we should stop, primarily because we didn't know what we were doing. This is nothing to fool around with. What we did was to alter the structure of the radiation belts for all time, so we don't even know now what they were before. And you know what they told me? They said,

Chad, we agree with everything you said. But, little boys have little toys. Big boys have big boys. You can take little toys away from little boys, but all they do is cry. You take big toys away from big boys,

then they'll say, Well, you know what? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You take big toys away from big boys, then they'll kill you. Go home,

and forget. Nobody can convince me, nobody can convince me that the scientists I know in Washington, D.C., couldn't sit down and predict accurately what the result of that shot would be. I know men who could do it. They didn't need that shot.