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1971 May 22 Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Laurence Foreman On Passport To Eternity His 1950s Experience
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- [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
- [16:24] Main address
- [50:08] Development of the main themes
- [01:14:45] Questions and closing discussion
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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
And I couldn't figure him out, but I'd go back just for curiosity. So he kept delivering me lectures. And one of them was on, he asked me what I thought about the formation of the universe. Well, that's like asking, anyway, I said, what's yours? So he says, well, the universe was formed about five billion years ago. I says, how do you know? Were you there? He says, no.
But says, we have had a chance, my people and I have had a chance to look at it and study it. I said, all right, tell me more about it. He said, well, the universe was formed by the head-on collision of two great forces of energy. And in this collision, the straight line of two straight lines of energy, and in this collision, part of the straight lines were curled and bent around, made circles. And part of them were bent. But that's what matter is. Matter is a piece of a straight line that has been captured by a layer around it.
Well, our scientists today say that it's a nucleus, an electron going around it. So they're getting close. And so then I says, well, tell me more. And he says, well, how did all the earth and everything come into being out of all this big explosion? He says, well, in this explosion, there were great circles of magnetic circles formed in a circle. And they threw everything into the middle. It grabbed it up and threw it into the middle. And that's how your stars.
The earth came to be formed just like the earth. Now, it has a magnetic field around it, and that magnetic field is throwing everything to it. Any time that a piece of rock or anything gets to it, bam, it throws it to the middle, which, of course, this is going to wake up a lot of people because we've all got the idea that that there's something in the earth pulling us to the middle. Well, actually, it's the earth's magnetic field that's going pushing us to the earth. So we're being pushed down rather than held down, according to him. And the size of the magnetic field determines the size of the star. If you've got a big magnetic field, you're going to get a big star, just like the sun. It has a big magnetic field.
So it's collected a big star and it's collected the earth and all that. Well, and then he said, also, the whole general, the whole earth is. It is gyroscopically formed that all matter works on a gyroscope. And I found out afterwards that our scientists say that's right, that everything turns to the right. So he gave me this stuff. So I went back and checked up on it and I found that, you know, he might be right. So then I went back afterwards and he was smoking cigarettes one night and he offered me a cigarette. And I says, no, cigarettes.
I don't smoke. So he says, go ahead. They won't give you cancer. I said, well, I'm not afraid of that. I just don't smoke. I says, how do you know they won't give me cancer? He says, well, we treat them. He says, we know what cancer is.
I says, oh, yeah, tell me. And he says, well, we'll have to go back further than Darwin went before we can tell you what cancer is. I said, all right, shoot, I'm listening. So he says. He says, the earth, the plants came. Now, this is going to come to a shock to some people, whether you believe it or not. He says that animals came, that plants were first. And we are an offshoot of a plant.
In other words, we are just a walking plant. And instead of our roots, a plant's roots is in the ground. Our roots is in the stomach. And anything that will nourish a plant will nourish a human. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything.
Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything.
Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. That will kill a plant will kill an animal. So that's the way. Where we get cancer is, it's a weakness left over from the time that we were plants.
I said, well, good. And so I went back and studied it. And, you know, I came back full of questions. The next time I asked, I said, now, how about this business? How do you kill cancer? He says. simplest thing in the world so yeah sure tell me he says well we use a herbicide there's anything it will remember i told you that anything will kill a a plant will kill you
a cancer is nothing more than a plant that's growing in your body because he says the cells on a cancer are almost identical with the body this is like for instance mistletoe on an oak is has the same cells as an oak tree mistletoe is a is a parasite all right anytime that same mistletoe grows on any other plant it assumes their uh characteristics their uh cellular structures so i says all right uh how are we gonna how are we gonna kill this this is the simplest thing in the world all you've got to do is the plant you will not build up a tolerance but the human cells will for instance your human cell will build up a
tolerance to uh tobacco or arsenic or anything else that will kill a tree or an animal or anything else if it give it to him before he gets it he says that will kill a cancer well i checked through my books and you know i found that a long time ago they used to treat syphilis with arsenic and i checked through them and you know there were several documented cures that when they were treating people who were for syphilis with arsenic cured the cancer so maybe they've got something i don't know but anyway he kept giving me all kinds of
uh stuff like this and so finally he says uh i want to next time you come over i want to see you so i i began to wonder you know these guys get you off in the desert and i've been reading these seeing these newspaper and uh and uh these guys will call you off in the desert and i've been reading these seeing these newspaper and these newspapers and uh these papers in the for different reasons it just doesn't matter and these are wonderful things for me and you know it's something so heartening the kind and And these TV programs. But anyway, I went with him.
And he says, well, now my wife sent you something. I says, good. I wondered what it was, you know. So he took me over into the biggest, nicest tent you ever saw in your life. And I wondered, how does this guy get this tent in here? So anyway, I went along with the gag. And he came along and he gave me this cat. And it is a very unusual cat.
Is that right, Linda? So I've still got the cat. But she's getting old now. But anyway, then he finally told me, he says, well, we've got a message for you. And we want you to do something. I says, me? And he says, we want you to write a book. I says, boy, you must be crazy.
I've never written anything more than a grocery list. We'll help you. We'll help you. Okay, you just take down our notes. Because that's what we want. We want somebody with a mind like yours that we can reach the people on this planet. We want to tell them something. I says, oh, okay, shoot.
But I says, look, you know, me being the good old American that I am, I says, all right, what's in it for me? He says, well. We'll take care of you. I says, okay, then here we go. I'll take down notes of everything that happened, and I'll turn them in to you. Okay, good. So then the next time I came down, he says, all right. But in the meantime, on one of these trips, I woke up.
He'd been over, and I woke up the next morning, and here was my car sitting up on a couple of big rocks. And here was. Here was. Here was. Here was. Here was. Here was. Here was.
Here was. Here was. There was a monster about ten feet high that resembled a human somewhat, and started over towards me. All I had on was my hat, so I just took off out across the country. So he finally caught me, and it was this guy Bill, the man that I've been talking about all time, in this suit. And I asked him, I says, what do you do besides running around scaring people to death of this oversized erector set? And he laughed. you know but it wasn't funny to me but finally i found that it was just a regular suit only it was
you just stepped into it and it was roughly built but it was built like an insect our bones are the inside the bones on this thing was the outside it was just a better built suit and i asked him what they used them for and he says well we use them where the gravity is too heavy that we can't stand up or where we're doing heavy work i said okay good so i went on back i didn't want any more of that stuff for a while so finally i went back and he says well now i'm going to show you something i said okay shoot but don't show me any more of those crazy things like you did the other day so he took me over and he showed me this saucer and i'm telling you uh it it was something it's i don't know i
never been very religious and i've never been in awe of very many things but this thing made it just like a dog when he's scared you know i could feel the hair coming up on the back of my head but anyway i went aboard and you know uh he says now watch okay i took care of everything so uh first time i got aboard the first thing i asked this is all right how do you get this thing off the ground he said well we'll go down to the engine room okay so we went down the engine room it looked just like any other engine room except it was all the machinery was encased i said all right tell me what makes it go okay he says well as i told you before when the universe was formed everything in this universe
turns to the right okay and what we use is fuel that turns to the left i says boy i said all right tell me more he said well i'm going to go down to the engine room and i'll tell you what makes it go he says well we have got fuel that is suspended in a vacuum that this count runs counterclockwise so what we do is we run a an organics uh fuel like alcohol in and the the uh atoms and it's turned the other way so like a grindstone hitting together that's where we get our heat to run the ship i said well that sounds good but uh says well and now that we've got the electricity going now how do we get the heat to run the ship i said well that sounds good how do we uh how do we how what's the rest of it i says now that we've got the steam going he says
well we've got two kinds of generators in this uh on this ship one of them is electric and the other one is what you call gravity or magnetism is now magnetism is a straight line or an almost straight line that's still existent in the universe and electricity is where you take a magnetic field and you tear the sheet off of uh off of an atom see an atom as i said before you know is is a sheet around a uh an imprisoned piece of straight energy it's like a bird cage all right you tear that off and that is struggling to get back that's what electricity is that is is this sheet struggling to get back together because that's what happens when you run it down a conductor and through a motor it's struggling to get back together
it's struggling it turns the motor or if you run into a light it's struggling it it it heats it up okay good now i said tell me about the the electricity you've told me about that but now how about uh getting this thing off the ground he says well we harness the straight lines of energy says it would be we tear the outside of the atom off then we take the inside which is straight and we uh uh just generate that compress it and then we can just go anywhere we want to on the straight lines of energy it's the same thing like it's holding the earth in this in the uh you know it's its axis in
the middle of this big uh circle i says well that sounds pretty good and uh so we went through the deal and so finally i says look uh tell me more about this cancer in your medicine okay so uh i think this is on the second trip he took me down to the infirmary told me to introduce me to the doctor incidentally these people have all got names as long as your arm and me being poor old names anyway i just call them bill or so they got used to it to me or whatever it was so the doctor's name was bob and i says uh all right now bob you guys are from outer space and all this old stuff now uh let me in on your medicine and i said well i'm going to call you with a little change and i'll uh let me in on your medical advice so he said well what happens used to being in a large room and uh
I want to know. I still think you're a bunch of either I'm crazy or something. He says, well, what do you want to know about your medicine? I said, all right, how about transplants? Why aren't they working on our earth today? He says, the reason they aren't working today on your earth is mostly because you don't have a sterile field. What do you mean a sterile field? He says, well, everything is an antiseptic around the patient.
I said, all right, how do you do it? He said, Connie, I'll show you. We went into a small room, smaller than this, and there were hoses hanging from the ceiling that looked like gas masks. Put one of these on. So I put it on. He put one on, turned the gas. He says, now, this room is sterilized by gas. We could operate without gloves if we wanted to.
That's the reason your transplants aren't holding. I said, well, that sounds good enough. And so I went back home, and, you know, I checked up on that. And you know that now in our hospitals, we sterilize our instruments with gas, but we don't sterilize our patients. Maybe we're doing it just backwards. But anyway, one of these, I'll tell you a very interesting part to me, especially at my age, was the regeneration process. I said, all right. Bill had told me that he was, I don't know, about 4,000 years old.
I said, yeah, sure. Tell me more. So the doctor told me that on their regeneration process, it seems like the brain, when a baby is born, the brain, when a baby is first started, the mother's brain takes over the operation of the baby's brain. And let me start over again. The brain controls your body.
[16:24] Main address
The brain is just like, the brain is the only part of the body that doesn't reproduce. So when your brain is just like a storage battery, when it runs down, you run down. So by regenerating the brain, they regenerate the body. So every 50 or 60 years, they take and regenerate the whole body. By so doing, they take the fetus. They take just a. A needle biopsy of the fetus and its brain right here by the stem, by your spinal column. And they put it inside.
It doesn't hurt the fetus at that age. They put it inside right here. And that takes over and renews the brain, leaving the host and your mental capacities and everything the same as before. It seems like the brain is just like a bunch of grapes, the neurons, the cells in it. And these grapes are on the stem, and they generate the electricity to control your brain. And as those grapes die and fall off, your motor starts slowing down. So these things, that they get this from the baby inside and put it inside there, your brain, acts as the mother's brain and renews itself. That way, they renew themselves.
Now, I've talked to men. I talked to one man. About the pyramids. And I know that either that man was there or had been in the pyramids. He said he had watched them and they were building them. And he either knew something about them or something, because I think he was that old. So I don't know. It's been suggested maybe these people weren't from outer space.
But as far as I know, I've never taken a trip on their. Ships, I've been on them just to see how it worked, but that's all. So they kept leading me on, you know, like a goat, you know, with a carrot. So finally, I would go down there and I saw, all right, when are we going to find out what you guys are going to do with me here? I'm not. What's the deal? So finally. After a lot of hocus pocus and all these trips, you know, and all these speeches, this is well.
We're want you to meet us in Socorro, New Mexico. Okay. I met him over there and I met the incidentally. Everybody has asked me why. Where are these people from? Well, I can't I can't explain it in my language, but it's on page 48 here. I'd like to tell you just where they said they were from. I says the first one.
After after the about that time, Joe walked in with the usual coffee and sweet cakes. After we'd finished the coffee and cakes, which were especially good today. The three of us settle down, relax and Bill said, Larry, what are the questions you had in mind? The first one is just where did you come from? What is the name of the planet? Larry, that is a good question. One that I expected you to ask. As you know, there are millions of stars, planets and bodies in the universe.
If we started to name them, we would run out. They're names. It would also be the same if we use numbers. We use what you call spherical trigonometry. Combined with celestial navigation. And instead of giving the name, we simply state its position in the universe. Something like the deed to a piece of real estate. As you can see, there are no two locations alike.
It makes a foolproof and exact method for designating anybody or spot in the earth. These people. All had a good simple answer to all my questions. Of course, I may have asked them some simple questions too. But if I get too long here, well, let me know because I could talk on this for five days and never because I was with these people off and on for ten years. And I went through a lot. So anyway, I kept asking them. What?
What's the question? What are you guys doing here? And they would tell us you're going to find out. All right, good. I'm going to find out. But when? And as well, first thing, the first thing we're going to do is lift the veil off your mind. I says me a veil on my mind.
But anyway, I says, what? What do you mean by veil? He says, well, when your ancestors were loosed here on this earth, they had a veil over their mind. I says, what do you mean my ancestors? How about yours? This is well. Our ancestors weren't put here on this earth like yours. They were put here for years, were put here for a different reason.
I said, tell me the reason. Well, in time. Sure. Sure. I get that stuff all the time. But anyway, this is we're going to lift the veil off your mind. So boy, here we go. So I went aboard the big ship.
We met in Socorro. I met them. They had one big ship. Their ordinary mothership. The one I saw is about 300 feet wide and about a hundred feet high in the saucer parts. But the one ship that I met over there, the command ship, they had 20 of these little ones. The other one was big. I'm telling you, I never saw anything.
I it's just beyond your imagination. How they lifted that thing off the ground. But anyway, they did. Well, I saw it coming down. I didn't see it going up and it's still not there. But anyway, I says, all right, you're going to lift the veil off my mind. Sure. Let's go.
So, okay. So I went on. We're going to keep you aboard tonight. Okay. So I slept the next morning. I woke up and I looked around and I wish that I could explain. What we are under. Was it came back on me.
I'm under the same cloud again. But I was out. From under it for a little while. And I can understand why the young people and the kids are trying to get out from under that cloud. When I asked him, I said, look, is this induced this veil this wandering around in the dark like we're doing here on Earth? Is it induced by drugs mechanics? Or what is it? This is well, it's getting better all the time says it's actually a state of hypnosis.
So your mind is the mind of the people are fighting it off all time. So it's just like you cannot keep anyone under a state of hypnosis forever. They gradually fight it off is that's the reason our young people today. They they're fighting it off. They know that there's a better place and a better world and they're wanting to know where it is why it is and what's all about. I said, are you guys have anything to do with this? This is well, we might because we there. Is a plan on Earth today as we are behind a lot of things.
I saw right tell me about this. So anyway, while I was on the under the veil, it seemed like you could hear you could feel the blood surging through you. Everything was clear. You didn't have to stop to think and it well, it's just like explaining trying to explain color to a blind. Man that had never seen color, but I'll guarantee you that whenever these people come and lift the veil off of our minds, we are going to look at things in an entirely different light and everything is going to be different. You're going to look at your fellow man is different and it's going to be one of the greatest things that ever happened. And it's going to come before long.
So they tell me. So anyway, they I went over to Los Alamos while I had this bail lifted off and over to their school of mines in New Mexico, which is quite a supposedly a very intellectual affair. And when I talk to those people with my mind clear and free those scientists that had been to school for 20 years, I know we're brilliant. They talk just like a kid with in the first grade. But of course, then
I asked us how long is this going to last this well pretty soon in a few days. So I went up to Los Alamos and and over school of mines. I started back home. I got about halfway and that darn veil came back down in about 20 minutes. I was lost. I took the wrong turn
and everything else. I'm telling you is just like it's just like a feel around the dark. So I says all right now and boy this sure is getting to be a mystery all the time. I said all right now. When are we going to go back over there? And you guys going to tell me what all this about?
I'm getting tired monkeying around with you guys. Even if you are smarter than I am. Next time we're going to do it. Okay. So the next time I went over they had the same big ship there. And I was introduced to the same man Lee. There's a man named Lee that seems like is
the surveillance the head of the surveillance in this hemisphere. And he has 20 ships about 20 ships surveilling this part of the hemisphere. All right, then Lee introduced me to a man named John. All right. I says now John's going to tell us I so sure. I'm going to get the same old stuff over from you John.
I got from everybody else. He says well, no not this time Larry. There's you we've led you on. I think we've prepared you for it. I saw right shoot. What's it all about? He says well a long time ago. Your ancestors committed some great crimes that were against the common good.
I says yeah. What worthy we can't tell you. Oh sure. You can't tell me. Well, we can't tell you because your sentence is about up and we're going to take you back. To where you came from. And you're going to be restored to your rightful place in the universe. And if we put it out now what your ancestors did,
it'll only be a source of embarrassment to you better that you don't know. They must have committed some awful crimes. But anyway, says your ancestors were were committed on this Earth because it is a modified Devil's Island. You ain't fit for anything except. Hardly for animals. I said, I can sure believe that seeing that country around Socorro.
But anyway, I says well, when is this going to happen? This is well as soon as we get people condition here on Earth to them going back. I says well, it's going to be kind of rough isn't just no says when we get this veil lifted. They can see what they're missing and we're going to take everybody back. Incidentally,
I should have told you I asked Bill. I says he said kept told me as I are we related. He says there are millions and millions of men like us and women, of course scattered throughout the universe and they are all federated together in a loose Federation. Something like the United States of America and we have what's similar to our. Supreme Court. He says I'm the head of the Supreme Court. I looked in boy here.
I've been joshing him, you know, like but anyway, he says that that is the stunt. He says that that we have just about served our sentence and they're bringing this Earth into a cataclysm or something. This is wake everybody up so that we can they can take us off. I says that's sure going to. Be a job.
This is well, we got the ships. We can do it and looking at that ship. I can certainly believe it and the way they they of course, I haven't covered anything or that's in this book. This is just a starter because this book has been as just like it says in here. This is a condensed description and history of the universe and the people who live throughout. It's.
Vast environs. Well, that's right. This book will tell you more about it through my eyes. I didn't write the book. I wrote they they edited it. I was instrumental in it, but that's all and I think that it's been the greatest adventure anybody's ever had.
Oh, incidentally, I asked him I says, is anybody ever else ever been taken off of this globe like we're going to be? This is all. Yes says we have taken. Other people's off and I says, well name one.
This is well, for instance in Mexico. We took the people away there and didn't never left a trace of them. And I said while we're at it, how did they build those temples down there? How they lift those rocks? They said, well,
they use levitation. Same as we use. They use gravity to him and and and and lift them into place. Just how else would they have got him? So how come you didn't leave as well? It's just like Atlantis. I says, yeah,
tell me about Atlantis. This is well, Atlantis had a people on it and we were fixing to move them off. But the people from the Mediterranean, we were fixing to take the people back to Atlantis where they came from. But we goofed. I said, boy,
you goofed at some and this is the people from the Mediterranean and Greece were about to go over there and we didn't want them to see these people. And what they had accomplished. So we took the people, their animals and everything else off and sank the continent. I said, boy, sank the continent. That must have been something.
This is well, we could do it. All right, we might have to split it at the seams, but we could sure do it. And so I can believe it. But you know, these people are playful.
You know, they don't have any care in the world. And they when they look at each other now, I ask them about us. What's your religion? And they said, well, we've been around a long time and we've been through what your religions are going through now.
And we look at every man. We don't know. There's something behind this whole scheme of things, but we don't know what it is. So we don't worry about it. Like your religions do on Earth. They said, and
so we just go along with it. So I says, well, how about reincarnation? They said, well, Larry, we could explain it to you what we think of it,
but I don't think you'd be smart enough to tell them. So, but they did give me somewhat of an idea of what in reincarnation is. They said that now I shouldn't be saying this because I'm not qualified. But anyway, they say that when a human is born, his mind tunes in with the universe. In other words,
he is part of the universe. He is part of those circling just like the sun. That part never dies. And once in a while, that part, the human that's left here, will take somebody else's body over temporarily and tell about things that have happened in another life or something. Now,
that's all I hope I haven't. I'm not smart enough to tell you about it, but that's what they told me about reincarnation. Of course, they told me, you know, a lot of other things that I've forgotten, but it's smattering of it's there in the book.
But you'll find that whenever we get ready, however, I know a school teacher that's retired, says she's not going with them until unless they take her, let her take her pension along with her. So now that now that this book, they told me in the book, so this book will be go throughout the world.
All right. I got through the other day. I was out in the desert and I came back. This book's been out in November. I've never advertised it in any paper. I've never given it to any newspaper. It's never been reviewed in any big newspaper and it's spread all over the world. I got back from home from out on the desert the other day.
There's a man waiting for me. So I want a book. I want four of them. I says, yeah, and he says, I want you to autograph the first one. Colonel Saladato,
who is the premier of Indonesia. Where did he get that? Nobody knows. So it's really going and I think you will get a bang out of it because I did. I it's quite a deal. Now, I've probably missed a lot that's in the book. But let me check over here. I guess that's I think I've talked.
About long enough. I don't want to bore you. Yeah, answer questions if I can. What is yours? Well, that's the one I get every time and that's the one they told me not to indulge in because this book is going to be read throughout the world. It is being read now. And if I start off on racial business or my opinions or there's something I'm going to get in hot water.
It'll all be ironed out. I'll guarantee you. Incidentally, these people that I met were all. Colored about like us just about like the people we are here. Yeah. Yes, then. No, they said that some I asked them about that. I should have asked should have answered.
Did just some people have more veil than others more of a veil heavier veil and others. They said no to not discuss. It too much because some races have a heavier veil and others that kind of goes to him say, but actually people don't some people's minds are disoriented. But it's only because their brain or some organic thing is wrong with them like a retarded child. His brain is just as well developed as anyone else. But there is just some malfunction there and he will be straightened out. The retarded child has just as much of a soul as any of us.
And when he is resurrected, it will be cured and he will be whole electric. No, no. Now, like for instance, I should have mentioned I suppose men like Tesla and Leonardo da Vinci. It's in the book. These people give them ideas like for instance, Bill said told me that before our ships could go into outer space. Much more they would have to carry Einstein's work further out and I says, well, why didn't you tell him in the first place?
Well, you aren't ready for it. So that's about that lady in the town. Well, I don't know about the Lord. I don't know whether he's going to come first or not, but these people are going to come get you and maybe maybe what's left. Maybe that what the Lord doesn't want why they'll take sorry. I didn't mean to be facetious. But yes, we are we're the book will explain it better than I do than I can.
We are plants. We're walking plants and a tendency to cancer is left over because cancer is an as is a disease or a seed that grows inside of other plants. So you're right. Actually, it is a plant that grows inside of another plant. But incidentally, cancer are our scientists have been able to reproduce our any part of our body. In other words,
they can take a piece of your hand or something. This is a scientist on Earth have been able to do this. They can take a piece of your heart or any area and reproduced except the brain. They can't reproduce the cells in the brain. Our scientists can't but when you have cancer of the brain, why this the cancer of the brain cells are almost identical with the cancer cells. So that shows. You that it's got to be a plant that these people are right that it's it's not.
Yes, not that I know of I wouldn't know about that. But these people they say now I'll tell you the Russians are and the Chinese are very much interested in this. The Taiwan Chinese because they have bought the Russians have bought more books than anyone and the and the Chinese the Taiwan's they may have sent them over to read Russia. I don't know. You sure any good places to go prospecting. Yes, I asked. That's the first thing I asked him. I said look it's right in the book.
You got it. I was out prospecting. I says you guys know so much show me where there's a gold mine. Help me cure my inferiority complex. They said well, we could show you where there is gold. But if we do you'll get all mixed up in the ramifications of a gold mine and forget all about us, which is they're probably right.
And, uh, yes. Have you have a in your mind or in there who decided on who's called upon like you were? Well, that's that's the first thing I ask him. I said why me and you know, I says I'm a most unlikely prospect.
I'm very I'm just a kind of an overage hippie. I all I've ever done is just enjoy myself. I always had the idea that I was put here to enjoy this life not to worry about it. And, and they says, well, that's the kind of a mind we're looking for. He says now we don't want to hurt your feelings or anything like that.
But your mind is about the most on complex one. We've ever ever run into. I don't know. They might be right because I always happy. Oh, yes. Yeah, that's something I should have mentioned.
It's very important. The most practical thing that I saw aboard this ship. It seems like our blood. And sap is practically the same since like I said, we came from plants except that blood has iron in it to carry the food and plants has aluminum, which carries the food and also has to something to do with the synthesis of the sugar. Anyway, they have a plant.
I mean a box. It fits around a tree just like that and they take the plant. A part of the animal that they want to grow like a bill or anything else. They put a cell in it and this plant takes the stamp from this tree circulates it through this synthetic meat. That's the way they grow their meat. They don't eat animals. They don't eat flesh. They grow it.
Of course, they did eat flesh for a man. I think for my benefit, but you see they use the sap to nourish this meat. So they said that a healthy, oak tree under normal considerations would produce tons of any kind of meat or beef that they want. And I've seen those boxes and they just fits right around there and it's practical. After all our scientists say they will tell you that blood and sappy are practically the same thing.
All they do is our scientists have grown if they just haven't got around to it. There's there's a college now here in California that's working on this and I think they're going to come out with it pretty soon. We don't have to have we can raise beef. Without animals. Yes. Oh, no, no,
we're going back into that old happy-go-lucky here after and enjoy ourselves like our peers do and everyone else ever throughout the world. It's like the young people are doing now there. Everybody can do their own thing and that's it and do anything they want to. Yeah. Oh, yes, I go down once in a great while. I've been down twice.
Let me see. Yeah, twice this year. Did you meet them? Yes. And incidentally, I asked him about earthquakes. Yeah,
this is what causes an earthquake and is it a slippage of the fault or not? They said no, the slippage of the fault is a result of an earthquake, not the cause of it. It's all right. Tell me what's the cause this? Well, the earth is why is is revolving on its axis and the axis is fixed.
The earth. Isn't and but however, the axis does wobble 20 20 feet every 24 hours. It sets up a current in there like a in the inside of the earth is molten iron. It's a fluid. It sets up a currents in there. Well, that's right.
Sure. That's right. Then the gyro goes through there. That's what I saw. Bob's got that Mercury in it. Well, sure. That's right.
All right, this this thing is, uh, the inside of the earth is this, uh, axis of the earth is stirring this molten iron, just like currents in the ocean there. Once while it stirs a real violent one and whammer hits the outside and cracks it.
Like for instance, they said that the most violent earthquake in modern history was over in southern Missouri, where there weren't any faults at all. That thing just had to come out and hit it. I'll tell you another thing. It surprised you. I got to thinking about old Isaac Newton. You know,
I read an article where he was, uh, he, uh, was an alchemist and I asked him about what this gravity does it and they said, well, does it pull us or push us? He says,
well, gravity Newton discovered the effect, but not the cause. He said that gravity that the earth was in the end was in the middle of a big magnetic field that pushed. Everything toward the center. That's the reason all your stars are around and all your planets are around. And that's the reason our scientists say now that gas gradually accumulate and formed it. Well,
actually in this big explosion, it created these big magnetic fields and they've been sweeping up stuff all through the billions of years and throwing it to the metal. They said there's no such thing as something like your fist pulling you down to the earth in the middle of the earth. It's a big magnetic field and the universe is full of them. The bigger the magnetic field, the bigger the star, the heavier the gravity. So Isaac was smart boy,
but he just wasn't on the outside looking in. Yes, that's right. It's about nothing. He's smart man. He discovered the effects his laws going and everything else except that he was, he just wasn't outside looking in. He was a very smart man.
And, uh, same way with, uh, like for instance, um, Einstein said that nothing could go faster than the speed of light. And I asked him about that.
So here you guys talk about your ships going from one area to another, uh, from, they said, well, and Einstein was right, but he just didn't carry it out far enough. We just didn't give him the last word.
Well, I asked, I asked Bill, I says, uh, how, uh, how far,
how fast will they go? He says, well, what do you mean in space or here in an atmosphere? He said in an atmosphere, a heavy atmosphere, like we have around, uh,
they could go around 8,000 miles, but they usually didn't try to go over 4,000 because of the sonic boom. Uh, and I says, well, how do you keep from giving a sonic boom? Uh, these things have been clocked at 4,000 miles an hour.
How do you keep from giving a sonic boom? He says, well, a sonic boom is the effect of the air coming together behind the plane or in front of it. Just what you've got to do is have an eddy in there, in there to, uh, to knock that eddy out.
So I noticed on one of these ships one time, once there was, everyone I ever was around nearly was cold except one, and it had four inch fans on the outside. And I asked, I says, now you, now I know what it is.
It's those fins create a little bit of an eddy just enough to keep the air from flopping. Now, the, our government is trying them out up at, at, uh, uh, Edwards Air Force Base now.
And what they're doing is underneath the plane wing, they're putting, uh, great big heaters so as to heat up underneath the wing to have a little bit of an eddy in there, see? And all it has to do is put a little, little vents on this thing. But along with the,
the cold and the vents too, I, they do away with the sonic boom. That's, you see, there are no sonic booms on any plane in the Arctic when it's cold. No plane can make a sonic boom. That's,
[50:08] Development of the main themes
well, you know, I ask them, I said, look, uh, people are not going to believe me. They're going to put me in the cuckoo house.
I says, give me a picture of this thing around here. They said, well, if we give you pictures, they'll just pick them to pieces. I said, all right.
Give me a piece of hardware. Give me your phone or your instruments, your compasses or something. They said, well, if we give you that compass, people will just say that you have gone into some machine shop somewhere and made it. And now I found out afterwards that there was a man in Italy that worked for a museum.
And he was up in the mountains one day with a movie camera. And one of these saucers landed and the people got out and were playing around. And he took pictures. Oh boy, I really got something. He took it back and he had those pictures, uh, uh,
developed, took them to his, to his, uh, boss. They immediately fired him. I saw you up here. You're,
you're a big fake. They said, you, we will give you our technical advantages, our technical, uh, give you enough of our technology so that they all know that you have been with us and seen us. And I've never seen anybody yet that read that book that didn't agree on the technology.
Of course, some of them fight it. Now, some of them will say in there, I asked him, I says, are there any saucers, uh,
big, uh, all saucers made like yours? They said, yes. They, uh, and,
uh, I said, well, how about these people's and, and that's all that's in the book. But they were talking about the mother ships. Now they have smaller saucers, reconnaissance and what they call sensors.
Now, like for instance, they have small sensors about like that box. And they followed one of our, uh, one of our astronauts clear to the moon. He saw those sensors all the time, following right along.
See, they were going along with him. Yeah. Well, it, uh, it was something like, uh,
they have a magnetic field on the outside, just like the earth or any other star. And that's what keeps them so that they can make a right angle turn that keeps things from jamming against the wall. In other words, they are there. They've made a, uh, uh,
magnetic field around that, just like the earth is. And that keeps things from jarring around. Yes, Roger. No, uh, the way I get it,
it'll be lifted. The whole world be lifted like that. Just like right now, the whole world is going through a real turmoil all over, huh? You know, they talk about our riots and our young people being agitated in this country. They're agitated all over the world.
They have just as much trouble and everything else. They're, they're waking up and it's just the lifting of the veil. And these people are doing it. They're getting us ready to accept them and everything about them. Send to go back. Yes. Then,
uh, well, I am not going into politics, but I'm afraid you're about half right. I'll guarantee it. Yes, Mr. already know.
Well, the reason is that the laws of our medical profession is so deadly afraid of trying innovations that they, uh, all of the files. Yeah, all kinds of legal barriers, professional barriers,
fear, barriers, Ukraine and Russia, the deputy. I personally had it in Montreal. Pardon me, chance. Yeah,
they can't hear you in the back because you're not on the mic. You have to come up here. Well, no, this is your mic. Oh, no, no,
come on up. I'll be glad to come on. Come on. Come on. Be glad to hear you. Come on. Yes, obviously.
Just a minute. Roger. Same thing. We're all the same stock. We'll go back. Linda, that's right. That's what all your churches teach you.
Every one of them that we, it came from somewhere that we're going back. The only thing is our churches. Now, don't get me wrong. I may be treading on deep water again. Our churches all may have it a little bit mixed up. It may be that they have got heaven and this place mixed up.
In other words, our Old Testament tells us that we were booted out because Eve ate an apple. Well, they just didn't know what happened. I don't think it happened over an apple. So we were sent down here to live on this earth. Oh, no,
no, we're, we're, we're entirely new people. Every time anyone is born, there is a new deal that's coming out in the next book. Every time anyone is born there, there is the same old two forces of energy going together and you are the product.
Your brain is just like the universe. It's just as, as deep and as, as lasting as the universe, unless some real bad magnetic field tears it apart. That's yes, Roger. Well,
it is. It's that's right. That's right. That it would seem like that. But if you'll notice nobody, you'll notice today that there's a great revolution going on in every church. They're all, they're all now,
like for instance, the Catholic Church is the strongest, the best organized, but it is going through a little bit of a change and they will change over to this. I'm not saying that the Catholic Church is wrong or anything like that. But if you'll notice that they are going through a period of the world is going to accept this. All your religions are all going through a period of revolt or something. They will accept it.
I'll tell you one thing. It's that's hard to make this book go over in Southern California is because our climate so good. But you get outside of Los Angeles, you get over in New Mexico, where I have Nevada, like I was last weekend. You get all that hot weather, those bugs and that wind,
you'll know that you're in Devil's Island. All right. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. And you'll get into a lot of things when you get outside Southern California. Yes,
Mr. Sure. Come on up. Here's a man. I'm more than glad and more than honored to be. To share the mic. This is a pleasure. Somebody here asked how were Negroes started, right?
Yeah. Now, this is really nothing embarrassing to talk about. This is in the field of evolution. Our evolutionists have it all backwards. One thing that Mr. Foreman has not mentioned and did not mention in his book. And these people have not talked to you about that surprises me. And that is the past history of cataclysms on this Earth inundations like Noah's flood,
which really happened. Each time they happen, our entire magnetic field around us is so broken up that cosmic rays bombard the Earth at an unprecedented magnitude. And when this happens now, this has been verified by naturalists. The first man to find it was George Cuvier back in the early 1800s. That species get wiped out, of course,
but brand new species get created at this time. With no apparent source. And what happens? We now realize is that these cosmic rays bombard people, animals, fish, everything to the extent that genetic changes are brought about mutations. And since we've been through over 300 cataclysms in the history of the Earth,
some species today are the result of a succession of mutations on only those mutations, which have the intelligence to survive the, the tremendous demands of environment change afterward survive. And these are the mutations we see today. Now, some are major mutations. Some are a result of series of mutations and some are minor, very minor mutations.
The by all standards of what we've been able to discover, the Negro race is a result of a mutation brought about by bombardment of cosmic rays during a cataclysm. Before five to six thousand years ago, there was no trace of a Negro in Africa. The Negro race they know anthropologically originated in Southwest Asia and migrated into Africa. I can show you far more sensibly that ape is a descendant of man rather than man being an upgrading from the ape. There is no logical scientific backing for the assumption that evolution is an upgrading process. Evolution is a degrading process on this planet.
And this is why if you take the scale, if you go to the natural museum, the Museum of Natural History in New York, they've got skeletons lined up for one end of one room to the other, maybe a hundred feet long. One end is man. The other end is horse and between each one next to each one, the skeleton of some other species almost like that skeleton.
And by the time you get looking at this whole chain of skeletons, you swear that man was a horse. But in all the animals, all of the birds, everything prehistoric, anything that is a mammal or anything that has a pelvic girdle, you look at the this from the aspect of comparative anatomy, the pelvic girdle in every species is almost identical.
And isn't it amazing that the process of birth is almost the same process and everyone. So when you say the Negro, where did he come from? I choose to hypothesize on sound ground that he is a mutation of the white race, brought about by bombardment of cosmic rays during a cataclysm such as Noah's flood. Yeah, that's what I say. These people say that they are going to take care of all races. In other words, they're going to be all one.
Yes, you got me there. I don't know. I see it 11 times and I'm trying to get my wife to see it with me. One appeared on February the 7th in front of my house, and I couldn't get her to turn around and look at it. They seem to want to mystify us about everything in life. Like you, now, I claim you are mystifying us no end. And we're going to go home and we're going to dream, good and bad dreams.
I hope they're all good. Oh, yes. They smoke cigarettes. So I asked them, they said, they won't give you cancer. I said, all right, how do you know this? Well, we take the cancer-causing agent out of the cigarette. I said, well, where does the cancer-causing agent come from? They said, it's in the way the blood is flowing.
It's the way that the cigarettes are so filthily cured and put together. It's just filth in them that does it. All they do is just knock out that bug. Now, some plants have cancer. You'll see an oak tree. Did you ever see a big burl on an oak tree? Well, that's a cancer. Mistletoe is a cancer.
And rust on wheat. Now, like, for instance, rust on rye is where they got LSD. The first man that was, there was a man trying to cure that. And all at once, he'd get high every once in a while, you know. So they checked in on you. He was as high as he could be on this stuff on LSD. And that's the way they discovered it. Now, about smog, I asked them about smog.
It seems like where they say that man originated was on two planets. And the two planets were... almost together, so that they interchanged air. That's where man was supposed to have originated. What they think, you see. And that did away with the smog business. But I says, all right, now you give me that old stuff about every star has a big magnetic field around it. How are you going to have two of them with two magnetic fields?
They said, well, one of them has a straight magnetic field. And the other one has one that's straight. And the other one has one that's straight. And the other one has one that pulls into it. Do they say there's life on them? Oh, no, no, there's not life. For instance, on our galaxy, there's no life. Like us, at least. No.
Well, that's what I was saying. The smog story. The smog is just too much pollution. That's one of the reasons why they're going to have to take us off of this earth. Because we're just... There's too much pollution. And if they don't, everybody's going to die. And they're going to have...
What? Whenever they go off and leave it, I guess they're going to give it back to the Indians. I suppose so. Well, they said soon. But to them, people that live forever might be... But I don't think, for the way the world is going now, I don't think it's going to be very long. Next week, maybe.
Well, it won't be long. Well, the regular surveillance ship. The one like Bill was on. The one I met here in California. Billions and billions of people like us all over the universe. Oh, yes. Alcohol. They don't drink alcohol under any circumstances. Because they say that alcohol destroys the cells in the brain.
Especially in them, because their brain has been recharged. And now, if... I checked up on this. Of course, I've drank a little bit myself. Just kind of socially, you know. But anyway... If... Alcohol, the first thing it does is affect your balance.
Your sight and everything else. And it does. You look at a drunk. His mind is gone. He gets... He gets that things. And alcohol, you can see it. But they don't drink alcohol under any consideration.
I don't think we should either. Yeah. Yes? Oh, no. No. No. That's a natural... You know, you can't interfere with the natural functions of the body.
But you get too much of a charge, well, it's going to get you. Yes? What? Do they have any sub-drugs? No. No. They don't use any mind-altering drugs. I asked them, do you guys ever use marijuana or anything like that?
They said, no. I said, we use absolutely no mind-altering drugs whatever. I said, well, how about this coffee? They kind of side-struck me. They kind of side-stepped that a little bit. How about Melina? Our last two visits? Melina.
You mean the project Melana? Melina. Melina. Melina is a Sanskrit word meaning a reunion or a coming together. And that's what they call this project. Melina is whenever they're going to take us all back and welcome the prodigal son back into the universe. You see, that old story in the Bible about the prodigal son returning.
That's us. That Bible's got a lot of good stuff in it. Yes. How do they go about notifying you when you're going to go on a trip? They have what they call, they have a, it's just like a laser. You know what a laser is, where they take a light. That's the way, they, like for instance, they have been in contact with Leonardo da Vinci and some of these great men, Einstein.
And they have given them some of their ideas. And they have given them some of their ideas. What they had to do is have a projector. It's nothing more than a refined movie projector. And they project a picture on the wall. Just like Tesla. You know, he was the greatest electrical man that ever lived. And he always said that he got his ideas in a burst of light.
What he did is he got, they just focused his picture on there, gave him the idea, he grabbed it and ran with it. That's the way they do it. Yes. No, they don't have a Bible, but it's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light.
It's a light.
[01:14:45] Questions and closing discussion
It's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light. It's a light.
It's a light. It's a space. It's a world. It's a universe. It's a world. That's the way they do it. Yes. No, they don't have a Bible, but it's like I said a while ago, they're from all over the
universe. They're loosely connected just like we are in a federation of the peoples of the universe. And when we go back, we don't have to go back to any special where we came from or anything. We can go anywhere in the universe if we want to. We can do anything we want to do just so it doesn't bother anyone else. Yes. Well, I don't know. I asked them, and they said that no, all the ships that they knew about, the big ones, was like that.
They said it might be that those cigar ships were reconnaissance ships, or it might be that they were turned so that they looked like they might be, but they didn't. Now, they didn't say that there weren't other ships. I asked them, I said, are there other people like you on Earth? Are there other men from outer space than you on Earth? And they said, no, not that we know of. However, space is limited. There might be.
But as far as they know, they didn't know it. And they keep us pretty well under surveillance, I'll guarantee you. Yes, Linda? Oh, I suppose they'll use others. They've got to, because I, you know, I'm not a... I suppose they will, but from the way things are going, this book's going to do it. Of course, and people have asked me, says, well, are you the only one they've ever contacted?
Well, as far as I know, there must be a lot of people that they've contacted, because I'm not the only one. I'm nothing special. So they may have contacted a lot of people, as far as I know. Mr. Gabriel Green here can tell us more about that than most anyone, I think. Larry, would you touch upon how you came to get the cat? Oh, yes. I told Bill my cat had died, and I'd thought a lot of him.
So, I met him, and he took me into this big tent, and he said that his wife, and I had the cat. He said his wife sent me the cat. And I says, well, where did she come from? And he says, well, she has several like her. And I said, well, where? Where'd she, well, I don't know.
She got them somewhere. I have an idea that they picked this cat up in some alley here on this earth. I don't know, because I was over in Colorado, not long ago, in Montrose, Colorado. And I asked him, I says, you ever seen any flying saucers around here? And he says, yes, there's an old farmer out here. They stole his chickens. So I went out to this old farmer out on the edge of town.
I says, say, did you ever see a flying saucer around here? He says, I sure did. He says, yeah. I says, you connect? Oh, no, no, no. I have nothing to do with them, but tell me about it. He says, you know, the dogs were barking, and I could hear voices out there.
And I went out in the backyard, and here was this thing went right straight up. He says, I took a shot at it, but it didn't do any good. He says, they stole every chicken I had. So, yeah, I don't know. I might have. Yes? Yeah, I've heard of him. I'll have to have him come over and talk with Susie.
She sure doesn't talk to me very much unless she's hungry or something. Well, she's about the size of one of our cats. Yes, but she's gold-colored, and it has blue spots. Well, the predominant color is blue with gold spots, and then her belly is white. But she's all cat. She's just mean. She lifted mine, I'll tell you. She's smarter than I am, I'll guarantee you.
Yes, yes, sure. Well, I'll tell you. I can't talk too much about that because people have followed me now. Yes? I asked them about that, but they told me not to discuss it because they said if I started saying that Jesus was it, why, the Mohammedans would be against me. Now, I said Mohammedan, you know, and all that stuff. So I can't discuss religion.
Touche. Or politics. Yes? Well, they'll have stations. And they said it. It would be soon, as soon as they had everything all. But like Atlantis, they may sink us, and then I hope they get us before they sink us. Yes?
Porpoise? I asked them about the porpoise. And I said, he comes nearer being human than any other animal on earth. And they said, well, we're not going to discuss the porpoise. I don't know why, but the porpoise has a special thing on this earth. They said that there was another book coming out. And they would discuss. The porpoise.
Because the porpoise comes nearer. And he is the only, a porpoise is the only friend that a man has on this earth. You take a way out in the ocean. I'm right, aren't I? Yeah. You take way out in an ocean a porpoise that has never seen a man. He'll come up and he's friendly with you. Every other animal on earth is a Guinness.
Isn't that right? Well, except dogs. Well, a dog. That's right. A dog is, a wild dog will bite you. You have to tame him. Yes. Yes.
Well, they said don't get mixed up in that dream business too much because it'll disorient you. Yeah. Some of these days. It'll be here some of these, I don't know when, but it's, it'll be here. And when they accept this one, if they do. Oh, sure. They're just like we are. Oh, yes.
Oh, sure. They're just like we are. They're just one of the bunch. They're just as human. If you saw one walking down the street, you'd never know him. Yes. One very nice dog. What did he do?
Oh, they enjoy themselves. They, they, oh, sure. They have things to do. Yes. Yes. Did they dig something? No, no. Did you say?
Well, they, they, they, they ran it over on a, on a teletype. There are other publishers that wanted to publish this, but they wanted to edit it. That's the reason I published it myself. Because somebody else got a hold of the editing of that, I probably wouldn't have known it. So, I, I thought for about a year that I was. I thought, I was like, that's it. Let me get it back. And, I'm thinking.
But then the thing is, you, I, I, I, you don't need to know that. You're going to get it back and you're going to get something out of it. You're going to get better. You're going to get better. You know, you look around, you know, you'll, you'll, you'll get one person to write on you, you know, a-a-a-a-a-a, a-a-a-a, a-a-a-a-a-a, a-a-a-a-a-a, a-a-a-a-a-a, a-a-a-a-a. You've got to write something down. You will have something.
I did a . No, the first time that Bill contacted me, I was mowing my lawn. And all at once, something just hit me. That was on Saturday, to go. I suppose he threw that picture against a palm tree or something. And I took off, and I went down to the desert, turned off, and there was the place. Did you ever go to Giant Rock? No, I've never been to Giant Rock.
That's right. Yes. You suddenly had the urge to go. That's right. I just had the urge. That's right. It was evidently, as it tells about in the book, it gives you a subliminal, they call it. It's just a picture that grabs your subconscious and then transfers it to your conscious mind.
You don't want to. Yes, Linda? No, no. It's all mechanical. Yes. Well, man has been on this earth about 50,000 years. And they say that this won't be. It's not going to be used any more, you see.
They have found older skeletons of horses and dogs and millions of years old and all that stuff. They've never found a man's skeleton over about 40,000 years old, I mean, a real man. Of course, they get monkeys or something like that, but they aren't men. So that man is a transient on this globe. He's just here serving his time, and that's it. And some of them have served their time, like some of the people, like they discovered those old civilizations in Indonesia. And Laos. And they've served their time.
They're gone. But this time, they say they're going to take everybody and they're going to give this planet back to the Indians. I mean to the animals. All right. Sorry. Oh, yes. Oh, sure. They control crime.
Yeah, practically. Of course, that's the reason we're here now. But it is less than it is down here, I'll guarantee you. They'd have to have a lot of earth to keep them on with all those people. Oh, they probably will, if we get into trouble again. Yes. Well, they said they could live as long as they wanted to or as long as the university lasted. That's right.
That's what the book says. Eternity. What about marriage? Well, they get married and, I suppose, divorced and everything else, just like everybody else does. They're human. I don't know. I suppose they do. I met their wives, and they were all married.
It was on the ship. They were just like any other. They were just like any other people. They came down for a picnic. Did they say anything about it? Well, they made a lot of remarks about it, but I couldn't repeat them. You mean, would I? If they did it, oh, sure.
In fact, they're going to have to do it pretty soon, because I'm running down. I'll ask them. They said, no, the universe was big enough that the more the merrier. And if they needed another place, all they're assigned or their engineers have to do is just make another. They're going to have to do it. I don't see that. No, no, no, no, no, no. They just take a needle biopsy.
Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Oh, sure. That's right. No, the fetus at that age doesn't bother it at all. And you see, the brain is the first part of the fetus that forms. From then on, it goes.
The mother's brain controls the baby's brain and tells it what to do until it's born. That's is. reason you see they have to get the fetus to put in our brain because they've got to have a host there to tell it to grow then you've got to take the that's right yeah but that's that's easy especially today with all this boy abortions you could just get to get the whole thing yeah six yeah it's just just injected the base of the brain by the root here i i i think now i i don't know i've never seen you that's right one on each side so you have two parts of your brain they'll run them back to about 25 and then of course they gradually age they get up to where they need it
again that's right that's right they'll go back when they were 25 years old no no no all it does is just rejuvenate the brain and give your brain another charge it's like recharging the battery in your car one other question before we break up yeah i've heard of him but i don't very much if he's got it why we don't have to bother with them yeah i will well shall we no they didn't discuss them i asked them if i was the only one they said the only one for this mission no i don't i don't know that they didn't contact them but uh yes what no no i i've never discussed him we sure thank you