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1970s Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Florence Fry Talks At 1hr50min Unknown Talker At 1hr53 Mr Good Talks

Understanding Audio Transcript

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
• [25:58] Main address
• [01:19:22] Development of the main themes
• [01:58:20] Questions and closing discussion

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

Members, I suspect some of you are that I don't know, but I hope that I will get acquainted with you. I think that the organization of understanding is probably, at this time in our history, one of the most crucial movements there can be. And I hope that those of you who are not members will quickly become members and put your shoulder to the wheel and work for understanding of the people on this planet and those on other planets also. I don't know how many of you got the publicity that announced the topic tonight. The book of Revelation reveals you.

Those of you who did must have wondered a little bit what in the world I was going to do with that particular book since it has... It has been largely ignored or bypassed by formal creed and doctrine. And perhaps I come under the heading of those who rush in where fools fear to tread. It turned out all right for a number of people in history who tried that. There was a guy by the name of Columbus who was certainly considered a fool and rushing in where not only angels but nobody else would have tread or anything else. So I'm hoping...

I'm hoping that as that turned out all right, this talk this evening will also turn out all right and that you will gain something that you have not had before. I don't know how many speakers you may have had who have talked on the subject of the Bible as a scientific document, but I am a nurse. And I hope that it doesn't shock or offend any of you to have me talk about the book of Revelation. I hope that it doesn't shock or offend any of you to have me talk about the book of Revelation. I hope that it doesn't shock or offend any of you to have me talk about the book of Revelation. As a textbook on anatomy and physiology, because this is exactly what it is.

This, according to Edgar Cayce, and a good deal of my material comes from him as well as from other sources. This book has been largely misunderstood and one that has been maybe a little frightening and confusing to read because people didn't understand. the symbology it is in common with many of the other books of the Bible many things all at once it is literally and historically true John was a figure of Christian history he was on the island of Patmos this is historical but there was hidden within this book a metaphysical meaning that has

been lost for ages and is just now coming to light in fact most of the work that brought it to light was done by Edgar Cayce in the readings that he held with a group of people in North Park Virginia over a period of some time later a group of laymen in New York businessmen took this information and looked at it and said this is tremendous but nobody but nobody is going to pick it out of this Elizabethan English that Cayce writes in why don't we do something about it so they spent seven years distilling the essence of what Cayce had said in this book and I brought it along with me so that any of you who may be seriously interested in this book may be interested in this book and I brought it along with me so that any of you who may be seriously interested in the

study can purchase the book I have just the one so don't everybody want one please I'll tell you where to get the rest of them and so the first two thirds of this book is pure Cayce question and answer sort of thing the last third of the book is that which I have taken the topic for tonight from and is somebody going to pass out worksheets because I'm not going to stand up here and spoon feed you people you're going to get to work too at it no you've got six never know what the other suggestion so do it your way that's a really wonderful way for us and that makes me happy that we got this earlier today it's a really nice task though this might be long but it's really fun to do jacket example I understand that there will be no sweat and it doesn't take too many years to know but I think we're going around we're going around we're going around to think that's the answer right then let's do our thing okay use of precious terms, gold, gemstones, and silver, and light, there is almost no word that applies to aesthetic beingness that is omitted in this text.

And so my presentation this evening will be from the context of this book, which refers to the body as the living temple of God. Specifically, this means the endocrine system, the seven glandular centers within the body that are our contact with cosmic energy or spiritual energy, whichever you choose to call it. And terms used in the book have the hidden meanings that identify these lands and these sites. And the worksheets that you now have, I have taken from this last third of the book and

written down the definitions because there are too many for you simply to remember, and there were too many for me to remember. In simply going through the book, I would have had to have had a reference point. If those of you who got the information sheet will know that I have been studying since 1945 metaphysical literature of all kinds, and almost at once, when I began, I began to see that there was a definite relationship between anatomy and physiology, psychology, sociology, chemistry, philosophy, and electricity. Now, this is quite a ball of wax to put together.

But it all fits once you get very serious. It's about the study. And right at this point, I would like to say, those of you to whom some of these concepts will be brand new and maybe a little startling, you don't have to buy it. If this is not your cup of tea, well, be polite and listen and stick it in the back attic someplace when you go home. To those of you who feel that this has some value for you, I will say that I can identify with you because it has changed my life.

And I mean drastically changed it, turned me about. The material I have studied includes the work of Charles Fillmore, founder of Unity, Dr. Alexis Carrel, a famous German physician who wrote Man, the Unknown, and who first startled me by giving me the concept that indeed life is eternal and infinite. And I think that's a wonderful thing. He kept a chicken heart alive and beating for 27 years, minus the chicken, and felt that he had proved that cells in the body will regenerate themselves if properly treated in the right environment.

And finally, he just took the jar and dumped the heart out. There's no point in keeping this going on. Medical science today doesn't yet understand the things that Dr. Carrel talked about. It doesn't understand the metaphysician who knows these things, either. Because some of you, I'm sure, will have read some of the same things, and I want to identify with you as a group rather than as somebody standing up here being a teacher or a preacher or something. I know you've all read some of the Fillmore works.

I know some of you will surely have read Emmet Fox, Paul Brunton, Glenn Clark, Edgar Cayce. And, of course, I'm indebted to you. I'm indebted to you. I'm indebted greatly to Dr. Herbert Puryear, who is president of Atlantic University, which operates under the aegis of the ARE, which is the Association for Research and Enlightenment. I attended a summer course last year under Dr. Puryear in which he went through much of this material I'm presenting to you tonight.

And but for his work, I probably would not be standing here. It's one of the changes that came to my life. I had not thought of myself as a lecturer. I'm indebted. I'm indebted to the code. I have no idea of myself as a lecturer at all, but rather as a nurse and a therapist working in the ARE clinic. But that seems to have gone by the board.

So now, if you will, those of you who have Bibles, if you will get them out, fine. And the rest of you, if you'll take your interpretation sheet, we'll begin with the definitions. L and H at the top of the page here stand in all instances where they are used for literal and historical. then underneath that I have placed metaphysical and the rest of the time I've abbreviated it just to meta and this means metaphysical John is the first figure in the book of Revelation and as I said to you a little bit ago

the book is literal historical but it's also symbolical all of us if we are not now will at some time come to the level of consciousness that is John John stands for high intellectual perception of truth but it has not yet been quickened by cosmic energy or spirit in other words it's it's up here but it has not been here and here together it hasn't come alive yet as a personal experience so John represents all of us in his phase of a high intellectual perception of truth and you people who are here as members of understanding are very very

close to that or you wouldn't be an understanding because this implies that you have a great deal of knowledge you have a great deal of wisdom and you have now taken the step to understanding you've heard dr. fry talk on the curve of development and you know that those are the first four steps so when you get to understanding you're getting close in the fourth verse or in the ninth verse in the first chapter we find john stating his position as a fugitive and in dire straits while he's living on the isle of patmos to which he has been banished because this was a period of time when christians were being a little bit persecuted

now patmos is a rocky island in the aegean sea literally and historically it's there but metaphysically it is a place in everyone's consciousness where we realize through spirit that the flesh man or the carnal man is never going to produce anything of lasting value it must be the spiritual creative man who does this how many histories how many civilizations have been built by man that are now no longer existent archaeologists are digging them up from the sands you know anthropologists they've come and they've gone and jesus made a reference to this

in his work that what men did might pass away but that his words would never pass away and this is simply because he had been enlightened as john is now going to be enlightened by cosmic consciousness patmos means mortal and an isle suggests an island of the body and actually metaphysically this is the subconscious mind it's kind of a rocky place if i had my slides here i'd show you what the subconscious mind looks like the brain not the mind but the subconscious brain it's kind of rippled and rocky and so he has withdrawn from conscious contact with life and he's in uh really in meditation and he's speaking and the voice that john heard behind him came from this subjective consciousness located in the

spinal cord and the medulla oblongata it is there that divine law stores all the words that we are all the thoughts that we have ever had or ever spoken now he's told to speak to the seven churches in asia literally and historically there were seven churches in asia and john had had contact with them in his ministry but if we examine the term a little bit more closely we'll find that seven that magical number refers to seven spiritual centers within the body asia as a metaphysical term represents the hidden and that which is within and it's also in the east and the east metaphysically always stands for that portion of ourselves which is spiritually oriented so john was being told to look for the seven

within as well as to talk to the seven churches without it was instruction for both of them a church what is a church well a church is literal and historical fact many of us go to them but a church also is a place in your own consciousness a group of religiously oriented cells if you will within each of the seven centers i see you giving me some puzzled looks here this as i said you don't have to buy it if you don't want to just forget it if that's what you want to do but this is what john was being told according to casey and casey you know was a tremendous channel through which spiritual and religious information came and most of the rest of his work particularly in terms of healing people

has been very very valid and i see no reason to question the information that came in relation to this book of revelation either so wherever you read in revelation about a church it's a church all right in asia but it's also a church within you it's where there are groups of cells within you that long to find home which is god your father where you came from he talks in this first part of the first chapter about the faithful witness the faithful witness was jesus and he was the leader's soul of this earth planet this is why he came he volunteered to come and as i have grown into understanding of extraterrestrial people i now personally believe that jesus came

from a planet that my husband talks about as being far far far in advance in knowledge of our own planet he came from that world to ours because he saw down here a people who were struggling who were he said like unto myself and he wanted to help and so he came to give his efforts for that help so he is the faithful witness that is referred to in this first chapter of generation of revelations now alpha and omega on page two of your worksheets is referred to in the 8th verse of revelations and empresa alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending of all things and it refers to the plan for all evolution the beginning

and the ending of all salvation in this chapter coin action and sommes evolution is Embodiment of All it which is only partially fulfilled at present and which has within it the power to bring about a successful outcome for man in terms of experience in the world within john this alpha and omega was his own over self his super conscious self that we all have in other words the mind of god within john was speaking to him and john said that the reason he heard this voice was that he was in the spirit now this means in meditation i don't know how much you people know about meditation in fact when barbara asked me to talk tonight i was sort of stunned i have a seven hour

course the scientific aspects of meditation i said you mean you mean you want me to give that in one night it'll be a little early in the morning when we all get through and she said no but can't you think up something that would go along with that and so in meditation the answer came to me there needs to be a definition of all of these symbols in the book of revelation a key which you people can take and work with and that's why i put it all down

here on paper i want you to take it home i hope you'll read that book with brand new eyes and get brand new meanings out of it that apply to you to your own body to your own regeneration to the transformation of your body no matter where it's at at this point healthy or unhealthy a little big old young wherever actually with the knowledge that is in this book if you followed it you could reach it back to you where you were supposed to be your children your children's children or your second and fourth generation or your third generation or your sixth generation or your seventh generation or your seventh generation your eighth generation or your seventh generation and even the fourth generation you could return yourself to a state of health of youth or you could move yourself from one place on

this planet to any other place or to any other planet it's here in this book and part of the definitions of these symbols are here i couldn't of course go through the whole book for you tonight i've taken the first four chapters and i don't even know if we'll get through with that or not do you this make sense I'm reaching you okay fine and in the spirit in meditation now quickly a definition of meditation is simply that you become silent and you use the word God in your thoughts and you open all of your endocrine centers to psychic energy which then flows in basically and simply this is meditation your thoughts focused on God and that energy is just as real in fact far more real than the electricity that comes into this room tonight to light it it's an actual force

it's the most dynamic the most potent force there is no in the universe it's got the atom bomb and the nuclear bomb and the hydrogen bomb and any other bombs you can mention out bomb for power it's great that's meditation this is where John was he was sitting in this kind of meditation Buddha did this only he sat under a banyan tree I think Jesus did this he went into the wilderness and fasted for 40 days and I'm sure he wasn't just killing scorpions and snakes while he was there I have an idea that he was in meditation and transforming the cells of his body to withstand the rigors that he knew were coming up his way because he volunteered for the mission and he knew what was coming now he was John was told to tell

John you know I'm letting all of you go work your way up to heaven too we can go while we're there if I could but I'm sure I know to all of you I know everything myet is how long it's going it's gonna be in about thirty years or so it won't even take the moisturizers somehow to run it affected or serious disease hasli meus deus goes cus her feeble can bring her the number of folks the fish is not aOLL a bridge of every kind of heart through which the knowledge that God the Father and His Son received is very good in its principle you could even get inspiration from and through them and see things that you don't even know how to know , broadcast the very essence of and showed u his wisdom,

Jesus to those whom they are... regeneration or generation the gonads the testes and the ovaries in anatomy and physiology this is the center that is referred to here the next center he's talking about is the center of Smyrna and these are the Leiden cells now the cells are not a gland they are interstitial cells and they are buried throughout the entire solar plexus the adrenals and the reproductive organs I don't know why Casey called them Leiden but he did and it's a term that has stuck you that I have pictures of all of the seven centers of the body of the body of the body of the body of the body of the body of the exception of Leiden lands why did he call him light comment and it takes this electrical

contact between the pineal gland and the Leiden gland to bring about a new life thank you Dan the lighting yes Smyrna that belongs to the solar plexus now Pergamos is the adrenal gland and it is um the church at pergamos and it refers to the adrenals the adrenals are along with these other two sets unregenerate centers of the body these are the four lower centers so he was to talk to them and he did he was then to talk to the church at thyatera and this is the thymus gland and it is located here at the beginning of the breastbone just just below the thyroid gland and it extends down to the point of the sternum in the body and this is the gland that protects us

it manufactures the antibodies so if you are an individual who has allergies well your thymus gland isn't doing its job you better talk to it a little bit like john was told to talk to

[25:58] Main address

him the church at sardis was the thyroid gland now this is the first of the spiritual glands and of course it corresponds closely to the voice box in fact it's wrapped right around it then philadelphia is the pineal gland and it is in the top of the head as i said a little bit ago it works with the lightened gland in the conception and bringing about of a new life but it also works with the lightened glands in the recreation and the regeneration of your own body the two work together medical science has not very well understood that there was more than one kind of regeneration it was always considered to be that you had to bring a new child into the world

that was what the reproductive system was for but the reproductive system is that system which reproduces cells within your own body and they are medical science recognizes that these cells are changed every seven years through the process of meditation you can change them much faster than that you are actually as jesus said to nicodemus you must be born again and you must build the temple not made with hands and this is how you do it you do it through meditation you do it through thought and feeling by opening these psychic centers and letting this energy come in and rebuild you this is what happens then finally he's talking to the pituitary gland or the church if you will at laodicea he

the church at laodicea the pituitary gland is that the master gland in the body which controls almost all of the others it it is recognized by science as the master gland of the body it affects the operation of the thyroid it affects the operation of the adrenals it affects the operation of the thymus it affects the behavior of the sex glands there's nothing that it didn't have its fingers in growth and development of bones muscles and organs now um the churches we have identified as the glands in the seven hour bit i have slides which show what these glands look like and where they are and i give the physical functions as well as spiritual functions of them so we haven't got time to go into that tonight the seven golden

candlesticks a little explanation about this before we get to it every cell within your body every cell and there are trillions of them and every one of them has its own little brain it acts like a computer and you program it with the thoughts and the feelings that you put in to this endocrine system which quickly affects all of the cells of the body so you're programming yourself with every thought you have every cell in your body has its own little brain every one of them now the seven golden candlesticks mean the seven centers but within each one of these seven glands there is a master cell which is the brain cell and it is the light within each of these cells that is referred to

and historically um the seven golden candlesticks are found almost on every church altar anywhere protestant religious i think even jewish you'll find the seven golden candlesticks because it's referred to here but somehow the meaning of why it's here and how it relates to us as individuals has been lost and it's only now that we are in the new age and approaching the crisis and the climactic i guess you might say of this age and the transfer into another discipline another age the 21st century is only now that this information is coming to light again and through casey of course much of this was done the golden girdle which is in verse 12 in chapter 1 metaphysically stands for spiritual worth and i think that in this time a good many of

highly educated the ruling class people wore golden girdles and a golden breastplate for that matter and it was a symbol because gold has always meant much worth and we each of us should put on that golden girdle and john was being told to do this now that john within you will be someday if not now tell him to wear this golden girdle your own consciousness in other words you're talking to these body cells and saying come on get with it let's go spiritual white hair well this has been a symbol of wisdom for a long while we always talk about the white-haired sages don't we and eyes aflame well when you have lights you're seeing you're really seeing and so john was being told here in

this 14th century that this is the golden girdle that has found its way this golden girdle has been been more than just and a very important symbol for us since the beginning of the early days this elder 14th verse that the individual within himself had these eyes of flame and of course this whole story is being told to john by jesus angel according to the text but he's being told to look within himself and to find this angel with these eyes feet as brass while brass is a semi precious metal when it's burnished it shines it looks like gold and it's pretty solid and that's where our understanding needs to be very solid now the seven stars is a reference to the control of the key points of the body and their attributes of the super consciousness most

of you have heard my husband talk on the curve of development and at the top of the scale there is the control of spirit these seven stars are what control that spirit within us and once we reach that point there is nothing nothing that we can't have or do or be we're there the two-edged sword this is in verse 16 in chapter one by our decision we use either our positive or our negative thoughts constructively or destructively and the power center of will in the body is the thyroid gland and illness results when our will is not in tune with that of divine law glitters are a common melody for many particularly women seems we have not listened to the voice and obeyed the

way we should we've sort of set up our own rules for operation and we can't do this successfully your body is going to take the beating for it you either say thy will be done and mean it and do it or be sick you can have your choice many of these things we yet at this point in our civilization don't know we don't understand what they are so god has allowed i'm sure that we shall be forgiven for those things that we don't truly understand yet and information if we seek as to why we are ill will be given to us and we'll understand but then we won't do it anymore now the over self is referred to it's not quite the same as alpha and omega but rather the god self that part of us which is actually god in expression that is within us is unchanging has never known want limitation has never been sick never will be this part of ourselves remains steadfast in faith with our creator then he speaks of the angel of ephesus well this is the mind cell governing the gonads wherever the angel of a church is referred to throughout these first four chapters he's talking about the mind cell within that particular center that is named then the first love that he talks about in chapter two and verse four the spiritual ideal that we came in to this life with you know on the other side while we were without a body we volunteered or we asked one of the two to come back to have another chance and we did this with our counselor on the other side and we knew at that point the ideal and the perfect way of living

and so this is referred to now as our first love our real ideal of what we expected to do our purpose if you will for coming back into this life expression again so that was our first love but in this present life this mind cell within the gonads has forsaken its spiritual role and descended into carnality and john is shown that the god of life has forsaken its spiritual role and descended into carnality and john is shown that the god of life has forsaken its spiritual role and descended into ca he must bring this mind cell back to its original state of goodness lest he lose the entire power of the center and it's interesting as a word association that we speak of men at sometimes some point in their life as being impotent loss of power and this is many times due to ignorance of spiritual laws or plain disobedience stuff and you can't you do this it's your own peril you must live according to God's laws and like it or you must live according to them if you're going to live otherwise you're going to be sick and you're going to do

a lot of existing but it isn't going to be fun the role of sex and spiritual growth and development is not yet understood but it plays a vital part in the relationship between sex and spiritual growth and development and generation process as I said cells in the center which have degenerated it must be got rid of and replaced before the spiritual goal can ever be reached in other words you must go through a purifying process I think Jesus did this in his 40 days of fasting John was going through this on that Isle of Patmos he was in the active stages of transforming his body

into a physical body and his physical appearance and being to its spiritual indestructible counterpart in light energies energy cannot be destroyed cannot be created but it cannot be destroyed and we are energy basically but we also have a physical body in which that energy is a captive and if we have not understood the role of the body through ignorance if we have strayed from the path then we must purify those cells we must reprogram them in other words to live up to their first lover to their ideal so that we can also be regenerated through the activity of this land center this is how it works then he made reference

here to the Nicolaitans but I'm going to leave that for just a little bit and go on to the tree of life which is in chapter 2 verse 7 now trees are noted for the longevity and the tree of life within us is eternal it actually has a reference to the nervous nervous system and its cooperation with the endocrine system and we've been told for a long while this tree within us was eternal but we somehow have not understood just exactly how it worked once however we reach this stage we will never again know lack or want of any kind now that's a really powerful statement and you can have it you can have it now

you don't have to wait until you die and go to heaven you can have it now if you can devote the time and the energy necessary to the recreation of your own life you can say I need a million dollars and it'll appear right in your hand if you if your ideals are right if what you're going to use that money for is right if this is God's will now if you're going to use it on Cadillacs and 10 townhouses with swimming pools and give a Roman party and every one of them I'd doubt that you'll get it because your consciousness will not be at the level where this manifestation is possible John's was and so was Jesus at the time he was in the desert and the devil came to him said look I'll give you the kingdom you can have anything you can see if

you'll just worship me and Jesus could have had it and he knew it and of course the devil in my interpretation of this was his own sense his own consciousness telling him look around you man you got it made you're at the control of spirit you can make money you can have a palatial residence you can have as many kingdoms as you can see you got it made man take it but the super conscious the alpha and omega the oversell within Jesus said as much if you do that this whole earthling race may be lost maybe nobody else is going to have the

intestinal fortitude to come down here and take the kicks I'm going to take in order that these people on earth will find out how to really live how to really have everything and of course the way you have everything is by surrendering everything you have and making yourself an open channel so that it can come to you but as long as you're going to hang on to everything with both your fists and not let go of anything you're going to have trouble getting it because it can't get through your fingers here they're too tightly clenched you have to be an open channel and let the money flow let the love flow let whatever materials are needed flow through you because you only get in correspondence to what you're maintaining in your life. you give. I have never known carrots to come up out of ground where no seed is planted. I've never seen an archer grow where nobody planted a tree. You've got

to do the giving first, and then the getting comes, and easily. And this is the point where John was. He could have, as this book progresses, at any time have had whatever he asked for. He could have healed himself of any condition. He could have taken off from Papmos. He didn't have to be imprisoned there at all. But he didn't. He stated out, thank you, Clarence.

We will be able to raise the dead. There isn't anything that will be forbidden to us when this tree of life comes to life within our being. We'll be there. And the verse 7 says that we will be in the paradise of God, in the original state of bliss. And a comparison here also can be made with control of the spirit. Because you're back where you started from, when you were in the paradise of God.

Jews. They've been so misunderstood as a race. And they've been so misunderstood as being part of our body. We have not known that there are Jews within us. How do you like that? Well, you people who have prejudices, you better get over it. The Cayce interpretation states that the word means cells chosen for special development. And these are the endocrine gland cells. The Unity Dictionary, from which I got a great deal of this material, has a whole

two pages, almost, on the word Jews. But briefly, they symbolize the highest aspect of a divine idea or spiritual consciousness. Jesus, you remember, was a Jew. In the New Testament, Jews symbolize our religious thoughts, those which are related to an established form of worship, to special rites and systems. Those habits of thought are hard to break. You know, if you've got used to going to one church,

you don't like to go to another one. You know the people that are there. You know who to expect there. You can talk about, you know, what you're going to do the minute the minister says Amen. You can go join the coffee crowd. You can go down and have brunch. It's a pattern. And you just do it over and over and over and over. The Jews of Jesus' time were the hardest of all

to break the habit patterns. They didn't hear him. Now, Jesus is another word that perhaps I'll say a little bit about in terms of symbolism. Jesus, as a name, represents the ego self. as a name, represents the ego self. as a name, represents the ego self. as a name, represents the ego self. as a name, represents the ego self.

as a name, represents the ego self. within all of us. The Christ represents the over self. the Cosmic Consciousness. the superconscious within ourselves. And so our egos kind of hard to listen. It doesn't like to break its habit patterns. They're fun and they're comfortable.

And what's going to happen if we break them? Will we like the next state of consciousness as well? Will it be as much fun? Maybe it'll be painful? Yes, it may be. very well maybe it was for the jews you remember they have not had such a good time all through history and right now it's hard telling which way the wind is going to blow are the arabs and the egyptians and the lebanese and whatnot finally going to wipe the boys off or are they really

going to get over this business of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and learn to love this is the role of the spiritual cell within the body this is what they must do and you must program your jews within you your spiritual cells to love the christ to seek him continually and at this point i i'm not an alarmist and i'm not i'm not negative as i say this but i i say it in all seriousness and sincerity you it's later than we think we can all procrastinate and rationalize and put off we we've got to do this and we've got to do that and we've got to do the other my friends

unless you begin to look within yourself to turn within and to cultivate and prune and educate that tree of life within yourself we may all go down the drain because god is within us and we are within him and if we let him down he can't help us we're going to go down too so educate your jews they're they're nice kids just just change them a little bit every day they don't have to do it all at once just a little bit every day five minutes every day of meditation five minutes of opening your centers to psychic energy and first thing you know

are you'll not be satisfied with five minutes you want fifty when you meet someone who understands you you won't be able to get enough and the changes that will come to you will be so dynamic and so wonderful some of them traumatic i'll agree i have to i've had a few of those but i've survived as you can see i i happen to withered away under the onslaught in fact i wouldn't take anything for the traumatic

experiences that i had in growing spiritually they were necessary it takes a hard knock to knock the ego down a little bit okay synagogue of satan is referred to in verse 9 of chapter 2 the synagogue of satan is of course was supposed to be a place of religious worship but when we have thoughts of a carnal nature mixed with religious thoughts it becomes then a synagogue of satan it's not a true synagogue it's mixed up in its action and we have to cleanse it and so we have cells in our body actually i hope all you people know that every thought you have

produces creates that which you have thought and when you think unkind things you have created a cell a habit pattern a track in your brain if you will that has to be dealt with and it's an unregenerate cell it's a negative kind of thing it's a negative track you to get rid of it and this is the synagogue of satan it's it's not any terrible horrendous place at all it's within your own body and you just have to change it tribulation of 10 days referred to in verse 10 this is the way you purify it john was on the island of pacmos i have an idea that he was very likely fasting and praying a good deal of that time this is a purification process

and we'll all go through that before we get to this place of being able to do whatever it is god's will for us to do and whatever it is our joy and our bliss to do we'll have to go through the tribulation but doing so gains us also verse 10 the crown of life you and of course this is a reference to the state of super consciousness to the respect and the status that you will win by having gone through this period jesus wanted they put a crown of thorns on him it didn't exactly look like a crown of life and i have heard daniel say many times in sermon that sermons that he was sure that at the end of the crucifixion the romans

dusted their hands off and said well that's the last you'll ever hear of that heretic he's done for good and at this point in history more words more books have been written about this man than any other figure in history bar none this is his crown of life and this will be your crown of life because Jesus said be ye therefore perfect as your father in heaven is perfect and what he was saying to us come on get with it what I'm doing you have to do it isn't enough to say that you simply believe that I'm here and then I've come for your salvation I can show you the way but it's like

breathing or eating nobody can do this for you you're going to have to do your own salvation folks maybe that's a bolt out of the blue but you if it is and if you're ready for it I'm sure you'll get with it and if you aren't why let it rest until time for it to have meaning for you now the second death referred to in verse 11 is a term which refers to the fact that once we start on this path it's rough and we may stumble and fall you know when a baby starts to walk it falls down and goes bump but in this

it's a term that refers to the fact that once we start on this path it's rough John says that the second death or the falling down will not be as painful as it would be for the person who's not started on this path because he'll understand why it happened and you'll forgive himself and you'll get up and trot off again and you may fall down several other times may have several second deaths but they won't any of them really defeat him now in the twelfth verse we have reference here to he with a sharp sword with a sharp sword he with a sharp sword

he with a sharp sword he with a sharp sword And the sharp sword is, again, the overself, the superconscious. You may refer to it as your conscience. You know, when you've done something that you're not real proud of yourself for, you can squirm a little bit, feel a little bit guilty, kind of reprove yourself somewhat. Well, okay, this is the he within you. It is your own superconscious mind saying, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

Shame on you. You know better than that. That's all that means. Then he's talking about antipas. Now, antipas was literally and historically a priest of Jesus' time whom John knew. Antipas is also within yourself as a state of consciousness, and it indicates loss of control of the adrenal function. The adrenal function in the human body is to give strength.

It's the fight or flight. It's the center. And if it has lost its punch, well, you can't run very fast and you for sure aren't going to fight. In other words, it's sort of a martyr complex. You're going to feel sorry for yourself at this point. Doctrine of Balaam. Verse 14. And John is telling the center in his body that I've got a few things against you because

because you caused a stumbling block before the children of Israel. Now, the children of Israel is also a symbolical term referring to religious thoughts that we all have. The Israelites were religious thoughts. They were religious people, literally and historically, but within us they are our thoughts which long for the return to God. So the doctrine of Balaam is corruption of cells chosen for special development through misuse and lasciviousness. The adrenal gland cooperates very closely with the sex function,

and when we waste the sex substance in lascivious living, we've wasted a precious substance. It's life going out of our body that is not replaced. Now, don't anybody go away from here and say Mrs. Dirk is against sex. I'm against the misuse of sex. The abuse. If you will, promiscuousness, which leads to economic disaster many times and many more times to venereal disease and sometimes to overpopulation.

That is the misuse that I'm referring to. Sexual relationships between husband and wife or between life partners, married or otherwise, between life partners, can be and should be, a spiritual exercise that enhances the spiritual life of both. Having said that, I'll go on. I won't give you a sermon on that tonight. Hidden manna, the impact of spirit upon the endocrines,

which release secretions into the bloodstream, creating energy. This is in verse 17. And John is telling this adrenal center in his body, look, if you'll just... If you turn to obey spiritual law, I'll give you the hidden manna. And of course, the hidden manna is again control of spirit. That highest level that we know now on this earth of development.

And this is given to us immediately, just like that. Just as quickly as you are given strength from this adrenal center. The adrenal glands, you know, are those which are responsible for the low blood pressure. So the little 5 foot 2, 90 pound soaking wet mother, lifting the tractor off of the son that's been buried underneath it. She just picks it up and lifts it off of him. And the strength comes from the center to do those things. These are recorded historically.

And so it is at this center that the hidden manna comes forth in spiritual strength. It was this which sustained and supported Jesus through that rock-throwing, thistle-crowning episode that led to a cross. Had it not been that his adrenal glands were well-educated and well-trained and well-disciplined, he could never have undergone the rigors to which he was subjected. Having done this, all of us, and John being told that he must do this,

he is now to have a white stone and a new name. Now, the white stone refers to the pineal gland that is purified. It is the one gland in the body which has not followed any of the others into materiality. It has remained true to its spiritual original purpose. And it's an interesting sidelight that this gland calcifies after puberty. And to my way of thinking,

it has sort of encapsulated itself, made itself a prisoner so it can't get out and get into mischief, as the others can and sometimes do. The pituitary, ambivalent. It is the Christ within, and it is the God-center in our life, but it gets tempted and it gets swayed.

And it sometimes gives power and authority to some of these other glands that it ought to withhold because they're getting into mischief. But the white stone, then, is the new stone. And you remember that Jesus talked, or called Simon Peter the Rock. Charles Fillmore defines the pineal gland

as the center of faith in the body. This is where we know. And incidentally, it is also where all of our long life memories are stored. So it does know. It really knows the whole bit. And it's the point of higher development when we get a new stone and a new name.

Now you have all come with a name. And probably it has been forgotten in antiquity because most of you, like myself I'm sure, are old, old souls. That simply means we haven't learned a lesson. We've come back and come back and come back and come back and come back and we may have to do it smart. We're old souls.

We haven't gotten the message very fast. We had a name given to us originally and we have forgotten it. But now in the regeneration, in the transformation of the physical body to its light energy counterpart, we have a new name written in heaven in this pineal gland

which is a reference point for heaven. Now we come down to chapter 2 and verse 20 and that terribly wicked creature called Jezebel. But Jezebel doesn't really mean the sinful thing that some of our fundamentalist creed and doctrine people would have us believe. Jezebel simply means mixed thoughts.

Within us it's the attitude that we can serve God and have mammon too. No way can you do this. It just doesn't work. Jesus said it was impossible. We cannot misdirect the creative forces to money-making schemes which may hurt others nor can we waste the creative life force

in promiscuous practices sexually. And it is the famous gland, the heart center in us which goads us to these notions. I don't know whether we have so much in our advertising media that talks about the heart as being the center of romance and love

and it doesn't really ever get around to the point of saying yeah and it's the same place that women get green with jealousy, stab their husbands in the back, hit them over the head with bottles and throw brickbats at them or the other woman

when she's walking down the street. But it's the heart. It's the heart that prompts you to do these things. And Jesus said this, out of the heart comes all evil. Resentment, self-pity and the famous gland, the heart gland,

works with the adrenal center to make us angry. This fight and flight mechanism there. And Jezebel is a state of consciousness when that happens within us and John was being told that he had to get rid of this too. Out of the heart comes thoughts of love

and jealousy and being hatred. We cannot afford these and John was told that great suffering would result in letting Jezebel have her unrighted way. Discipline is the key word here and Jezebel, the animal spirit, in us is strong

and we must choose. We must have complete control of the body forces including the ability to produce healing or supply of any kind or let Jezebel have her way and goof the whole bit.

One or the other. You don't get them both. The term power of the nations. I see I did not write that down but it's a term that is given here in this symbology and control of all bodily parts and functions.

Then we have three terms here. Reigns, heart and Satan. The reigns, well you know what reigns are. They're control. That's the way you tame the horses down. And the heart is the motivation. It's the center from which all these things come forth.

And Satan is the unregenerate mind. Then the last page here. Oh, power of the nations got mixed up, didn't it? Well, all right. It's control of all things. All bodily parts and functions. And this is saying that to John

mentally he could control all of his body parts. He could make them do exactly what he wanted them to do. And you can do that too. Because none of us are any different. We're all made in the image and likeness of God.

And Jesus came to show us the way to do this. And then John went through this experience in the Revelation and wrote it as a testimony. To say to us, this is what's happening. And if you're puzzled,

as I was for many years, well, why in the world didn't somebody just say so in this Bible? Why didn't they just say this is what they were talking about? Well, this was to protect the uncommitted

from stumbling into a force field with which they were not prepared to deal. I can make an analogy. If you, at your level of consciousness, suddenly were to find yourself in the middle of a continent whose language you did not understand,

people spoke a language that you couldn't follow, and their practices were those that horrified you. Your body would be subjected to such trauma, and your mind to such trauma, that you couldn't take it.

That's exactly what would happen to the individual who stumbles accidentally into a cosmic force field and doesn't understand how to handle it. It's traumatic. It's like getting in the outer edge

of a cyclone, and you're suddenly just whirled and whirled and whirled until you don't know whether you're coming or going. And so the Bible was written, this book of Revelations, in symbology to protect people

until they were ready for it. Now, I assume, and it's a big assumption to make, that the people in understanding were ready for this. But if you aren't, just forget everything I've said and go home tonight

and don't do any of it. There is then the term the morning star, which is referred to in verse 28. This is the original state of illumination or intelligence. And John is told that

he will be given his original state of being, cosmic consciousness, control again over spirit, control over everything, if he does what he's supposed to do here. He's told in the beginning of chapter 3

in verse 5, that he that overcometh shall be clothed in white raiment. And I will blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father and his angels. And he is to have white raiment,

which signifies purity. It has a few names even in sardis, and of course sardis is a thyroid and is one of the seven centers. But it says you've got a few cells in sardis that have got to be disciplined and reeducated too.

They aren't all they ought to be. So white raiment, is a state of purity and when you have educated those cells, you will put on the garment of purity. Then the book of life, this is what that very famous psychiatrist

and psychologist Carl Gustav Jung referred to as the collective unconscious. The state of all souls. The book of life. This is everybody. The whole ball of wax. The record of all souls.

Then, there is a pillar in the temple and he is told that this pillar is an evolved cell. Or it could be an evolved soul in a collective sense. So that there is one cell within a particular center

that has evolved. And there are, throughout the book of Revelation, reference to 144,000. These are the evolved and the purified cells within the body.

Now there may be a number of other things as well. But this 144,000 refers to the number of purified cells within the body and within the glands. Then in verse 12 we come to the New Jerusalem. And he was saying that

when you get there it's not necessary to go out anymore. This means the wheel of birth and death is satisfied. No more come back birth, death, birth, death, birth, death, death.

You've done it. You're through. You can come home and stay if you want to. You can of course volunteer to come back as a missionary as Jesus did. But when you reach that point you are then in the city of God.

In other words, the state of consciousness, the New Jerusalem. You have reconstituted yourself from top to bottom. You're a new person. And you really are. I look back at my own life

and at this point if I were to have met myself at the age, if I were to meet myself at the age of 30, I wouldn't know me. Sarcastic, cynical,

agnostic, feeling sorry for myself because I was having such a bad time. See what meditation will do? It'll change you. It'll make you sweet and loving. It'll get people to invite you to come and talk to them.

The open door in heaven is in chapter 4. I've skipped around in here a little bit because I knew I couldn't possibly get the whole thing in. And the open door in heaven is, of course, the awakening.

The pineal gland here is opening. And God, through this pineal gland, is offering himself as a guide, the God within yourself. And the Overself shows himself in point of control

of the entire body-mind. And the stones and the colors that are mentioned here in this chapter symbolize attributes like judgment, justice, mercy, wisdom, and so forth.

And before the control points of the super-conscious mind are the lesser control points of the five senses, the 24 cranial nerves. Then there is a verse which says, and round about the throne

it's verse 4, were four and twenty seats. And upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting clothed in white raiment. And they had on their heads crowns of gold.

The four and twenty elders are the twelve pair of cranial nerves. When these pair of nerves finally yield to the voice within the autonomic

nervous system, a transformation takes place. And in a book called The Secret of the Golden Flower by Richard Wilhelm, the description of this experience is that it is as though

a man and a woman embrace and a conception occurred. It is such a very beautiful experience. And that will occur within your body when you quit listening to your ears,

quit believing your eyes, quit agreeing with everything that you feel as being real, and living for taste only. In other words, when you discipline these sense centers,

these five sense centers, and tell them, hey listen, there's a higher law in the autonomic nervous system, in the sympathetic and the parasympathetic systems. Obey it.

Listen to it. This is the spirit within speaking to you. And you do get to that point if you are really serious about going home, being again with the creative force

that through such infinite love gave us the opportunity and the privilege of coming to this earth and finding out through our own experience what life on earth

was all about. A living experience. Now the lightnings and thunderings and voices, these are forces in action, cosmic forces in action within the body.

And John was experiencing this. There were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne. Here again we have a reference to the seven spirits. In the seven centers. The sea of glass are the stilled emotions.

You're not yielding to those urges out of the heart to be angry, to be resentful, to steal or to hurt. You have become a sea of glass. And around about the throne were the four beasts

full of eyes before and behind. Well, full of eyes before and behind means awareness, intense awareness in these centers. You know, your eyes see.

They let you know what's going on around. Well, when you get to this point, you've got eyes in the back of your head. You've heard that saying. These are the four lower centers then. Thymus,

adrenals, lydic, and gonads are suddenly aware of what's going on. Him that sat upon the throne. This is in verse six. This is the superconscious

in command, really. The right hand, a symbol, a point of control of spiritual forces in the body. Most of us are right-handed. There are a few of us that are left-handed.

But when you're using your right hand, you're using the hand that's in control. It holds the reins. So, this is the triune of the tribe of Judah.

The root of David and Christ. I missed a couple here. Backside of the book.

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This is your unconscious mind. Your subconscious mind, if you will. And the book, of course, is the body. Now, the seals are the endocrine centers

in their normal, closed state. And don't go around with your endocrine centers open, because it isn't just the cosmic consciousness that can come in when the door

is open. It's anything. And many, many years ago, when we were living And many, many, many people in today's world are in psychiatric institutions because their centers weren't open and they've been invaded

by forces that were having fun with them. They were getting their kicks out of living through somebody else's body. So keep your centers closed. Keep yourself protected. Now, Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Writ of David, and Christ. The consciousness perfected through experience in matter or earth. Vials, these are acknowledgment. Kindred tongue, people, and nation, this is the general mass, the general population of people.

And the kings are the ruling forces of the physical cells. I hope that in this, giving you this key, I have given you a tool that you will be very serious about using. It's fun to go and be stimulated by something that someone, someone says, and it's not nearly so much fun to put it into practice and application, but that's the only way it's ever going to do you any good. It's like if you come and get all stimulated in front of a restaurant that has a lot of rich and desirable food in it,

and then you don't go inside and eat any of it. You just stand and look at the window. I think probably you're all tired of sitting still now, so if you'd like to stand up and stretch for a minute, fine, and if you have any questions after the stretch, I'll be glad to answer them, if I can. Thank you. I don't know, that was kind of a broad statement, Karen.

I don't know whether I can answer them or not, but I'll try if you have any. You were talking about protecting ourselves by keeping our centers closed. Would you talk a little more about that, or what do you mean by how do you do it? Well, I guess I'd have to start with saying, in meditation, I open my centers with the use of the Lord's Prayer, because each of the phrases, of that prayer, are geared to a certain center. Jesus gave it with this in mind.

And when I close them, I use the 23rd Psalm, and that does it for the day. Now, if you're not meditating, I guess the only way I could answer that would be to say, things that you feel very deeply about, you should sit down and evaluate about why you feel this deeply. Because feelings are an indication that the endocrine centers are shooting you full of chemicals,

and your feelings are in response to some stimulation, either verbal or sensory of some kind. And then you should say, well, I don't believe that I am going to, that it's a valid feeling that I have, I think I better turn that one off. And if your endocrine centers are sensitive to your every thought, and so if you're not a meditator, if you simply get up in the morning with the notion that today, I'm not going to accept just anything and everything that comes my way,

I'm going to be tuned into those things which I know to be true, and then evaluate the rest of the material. I don't know, maybe someone else has a better answer. Does anybody else have a better answer for that question? How do you keep the centers closed? How do you protect yourselves? In meditating, do not just sit and accept what comes in, but have a definite point of meditation.

If you open yourself just in calm nothingness, you're liable to get most anything in meditation. But always have a definite point that you're attempting to, and receive information from so-and-so. Does that answer the question? You're talking about protecting yourself during meditation, aren't you? Yes. I have a statement that I make, an affirmation, if you will.

But I was trying to answer your question both from the point of people who meditate and those who don't. Simply make yourself an affirmation that you are now protected by the Christ consciousness, and that nothing else can enter in. That's all you need to do. It's not complicated at all. Are there any other questions? Yes. First we have to say adrenaline exhaustion.

What do they do about that? You meditate. Adrenaline exhaustion may be the result of many factors. Sometimes it's improper diet, improper exercise, or maybe over-exercise. There are these individuals that are labeled as hair temper, hairies. Trigger-temper hairies. They go off like that. And you only have a certain amount of adrenaline in your body at any given time,

unless you regenerate it. And if you don't know how to do that, and if you're exhausting it faster than you're using it, then you have adrenaline exhaustion. Does that answer the question? You renew it. You renew it through, as I said, meditation, through psychic energy. You renew it by studying what foods. You should be eating.

Possibly you have some faulty metabolism. The thyroid gland and the adrenaline gland are not maybe cooperating with each other the way they should. Maybe you ought to go have a test and see what your metabolism rate is. No, I didn't go into that. Going into the discipline of meditation with the use of the Lord's Prayer is something that you can't do quickly. And do justice to it. And I hesitate to even start it, because I'd be here till midnight.

And you would, too, and they'd probably kick us out before then. I do have a seven-hour class in this. And if at some time in the future this understanding group would like to spend seven hours with me, I'll go through the whole bit cheerfully. Thank you. And I started singing the Lord's Prayer about 1939, and things started happening. And from then on, they've been happening. And so I know that the Lord's Prayer does work, even if you don't know what it is affected.

Yes, this is true, but it works better when you do. I know. Then after all these years, I finally learned. Okay. Yes. Because you set up frequency vibrations in a particular place, in a chair, in a room. And the minute you go there, your whole body,

all of these little brain cells in every cell of your body, is oriented to getting down to business. Meditation frequently is disturbed by the conscious mind, wanting to know if you've got the money to pay the paper boy. How's Aunt Susie coming today? I've got to go and pay the insurance and so on. This is not meditation. So if you have a certain spot, your body understands,

and so does your conscious mind. The minute you sit down in that spot, I'm here for meditation. And you have disciplined your thoughts over a period of time until that's all you do there. You meditate there. That's what you go for. It gives you a feeling of security, of peace and poise. And your teachers, your counselors,

and guides on the invisible side of life know what time to meet you, to be there. Well, for me it is. Dan and I do our meditation together in the morning because if we don't, we never get a chance all the rest of the day. So I don't do much meditating at night simply because it brings psychic energy into the centers and you may not get to sleep until 2 or 3 o'clock.

Are there other questions? If not... Yeah. In some religions it has a... Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors and others forgive us those who trespass against us. Our trespassers. Which do you have...

Which do you think is good for us? Well, you're asking my personal opinion, and my personal opinion is the shortest word is the best because it gets it done the fastest. We forgive our debtors. No, forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. In other words, if you don't forgive people

that have done... done things that you think are against you, you're not going to get forgiven either. Also, at the end of the Lord, in this Catholic religion, it ends with... It doesn't give that extra praise to God. Well...

But, I mean, is that necessary for that... The line is the kingdom of God. I mean, is that part of the... I don't think it's necessary, but I think it's important. Shall we say it that way? Because in the statements you're saying, thine is the kingdom and the kingdom is your body.

Or the kingdom is the earth. Or it happens to be your community. It's all of these things. And the power and the glory you are simply assigning to the God within yourself. So I think it's important to do this, to remind yourself of that every day. Now there was another question.

I wanted to ask you, did Satan come from every material? Part of it came from the case and material. Part of it came from the unity metaphysical dictionary. Mm-hmm. Yes.

Would you be pleased to contribute to go through the last part in terms of the system of sin and the supply of sin? You're persistent, aren't you? Bless your heart. I really hesitate to do this because unless you understand,

really understand, what these phrases are all about, and what the spiritual action is that's going on at the time you're doing this, and how to center your awareness in this particular place, it's risky.

I'm so willing to do it, but I want, when I do the class, we do it together in a group, and I lead the meditation and the experience. From beginning to end, so that I know that people

are, first of all, protected. I know that the head and neck exercises which ought to precede it are done properly. I know that the affirmations that are said are those which bring about positive and constructive results.

And if I just simply identified the phrases and the centers, and you started out to do this on your own, I would have been able to do it. I would have been able to do it. I would have been able to do it. I would have been able to do it.

I would have been able to do it. I would hate to feel responsible for anything that might happen to you because the full explanation had not been made. I'd love to do it. There isn't anything I'd rather talk about.

Thank you. Sometime maybe we'll get together and do it. Are there other questions? You say that it's good to talk, or at least P.A.C.E. said it was good to talk to your own clients. If you have anything

particularly wrong with you, like you mentioned, even those with, well, it's like hay fever, or did you mean like allergy? Is that the thymus gland that does that? Hmm? The thymus gland doesn't do it.

But the thymus gland isn't functioning according to its spiritual law when this happens. Well, I mean, well, it's... And so you talk to the glands, you talk to your body, you convince your consciousness, first of all,

that you are a perfect being. God doesn't have allergies, and God is within you. But somehow the door is blocked between you and him, and so you talk to yourself, and through your subconscious mind these thoughts go in,

or through your conscious mind these thoughts go into the subconscious, where they are picked up by the superconscious part of your being. And this is the way healing is done. This is one way in which healing occurs. This is one way in which healing occurs.

You can heal... The body is programmed to automatically heal itself of any condition. I used to tell my patients when they told me that they had this or that or the other symptom

or disease or whatever. Look, if Henry Ford was smart enough to make parts for his little jitneys, don't you think God would have been smart enough to make you some spare parts? Ask him for them. And this is the way we do it.

We don't take up all this responsibility so we come back to the environment and say the man is up here and the book says this, the book says this, the book says this. You just think anything rather than ask him.

I'd like to think of it as lead us when in temptation. Do you think anything wrong with that? Well, I don't see anything wrong with the way you're saying it, but neither do I see anything wrong with the lead us not into temptation. This is a very,

very much misunderstood phrase in the Lord's Prayer. This prayer is saying to your conscious mind, to your sense consciousness, don't let me get carried away with biological itches. I don't want to go out

and be a little bit promiscuous with my sex life. Lead me not into temptation. You're talking to your own consciousness within yourself. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, deliver us from thinking

the wrong things here at this heart center, from feeling the wrong things. God wouldn't, but you unfortunately have a will of your own. And you can lead yourself into temptation

with your own mental capacities and your own feelings and thoughts. Where is God? Within you. The higher self. The higher self. Fine. But I think what she was saying

is in fact... But you also talk to your, but you also talk to your conscious mind. You do both at the same time. ...the Lord's Prayer, didn't you? Yes.

Mm-hmm. Sure. Well, I always think that it's not possible... Fine. ...to be a child in heaven. Yeah. Fine.

Yes. Uh, you mentioned the father around. What, what do you consider the mother-son God? Father, mother, God. I'll have to give that some thought. I'll have to give that some thought. I'll have to give that some thought.

I'll have to give that one some thought. Is there any other father? Is there any other male in the street area that sees her mother? There is a, um, some sort of writing on the positive-negative polarity between the glands,

but at this point, I'm not sure. And I, so I would hesitate to answer that. See, I knew you'd eventually get me up against the wall. But that's good, that now, I'll learn. I'll go look things up.

Any more questions? This is just on what you just said. You said the body was programmed for healing. Is that what you said? Are those the words you used? Yes, yes, yes. The autonomic... Yes, the autonomic nervous system,

which operates independently of your thought, just goes about rebuilding cells, about helping you to breathe 16, 20 times a minute, about making your heart beat the way it should, and about your digestion. You don't have to worry about any of that stuff. Uh, didn't Ms. Fillmore fell and was healed of a bad case of tuberculosis?

I don't know about, are you talking about Myrtle Fillmore? Yeah, uh-huh. Um, I know that she was healed, and I know that Charles Fillmore, who had tuberculosis in the hip bone, had a four-inch growth of new bone at the time he died.

As a result of, um, knowing that his body was rebuilding itself. Anything else? The Bible. Eating the right food is important, because food is chemistry, and body chemistry is us. And if we're going to eat the wrong things,

we may be going to think some of the wrong things and feel the wrong things, because the chemistry is not spiritually oriented. And so this is why it's important, in case, to read the Bible. And so, in the prophecy readings, he talks about an 80% alkaline or non-protein diet, which means fruits, nuts, and vegetables.

He talks about only 20%, because 20% protein foods produce acidity in the body. And it's the body that is healthy is that one which has a tendency to be more on the pH of alkaline than on the acid side. Did I get your question? Yes. What was the question?

Is this answered now? Oh. Well, this is just, um, this is imbibing poison. Uh, if you can, if you're in a position to get organic foods, to grow them yourself, uh, you can bless your garden ground,

you can talk to your plants, you can scoot the little insects and the bugs and even the rabbits. My husband is getting excellent practice in the latter. You can order them into their own kingdom and tell them to stay there, that this is protected territory, and they don't belong into it.

And they, they don't like the idea, and they'll resist it, but you can do it. And you can also use biological extermination, and there are a number of, um, biologists who can give you the route for this, right at the moment, I can't think of anybody but Rachel Carson,

who recommended the method. But I do know a couple of university professors who have pretty well proven that you can get rid of all of the insects and all of the pests of every kind through a biological extermination process in which they are not able to reproduce themselves. But if you go about setting, upsetting

the ecology to that extent, you may suddenly find that you have another problem that you have to manage. Get rid of all the insects, the birds are all going to die. Have you had it? Before we close, I'd like to make this announcement that Dr. Fry will be meeting tomorrow

at 11 o'clock at the southwest of Counseling Service, and that's the Congregation of the Faith, and that's at 7323 South Crenshaw, at 74th, and it will be at 11 o'clock, 11 a.m. tomorrow, and he will speak on the curve of development.

So any of you who are interested and haven't heard it yet, The trip for me involved an awful lot of electrical stuff and resulted in a three-day adventure on their planet. And after collecting, imagine, I spent three days collecting data

that I could bring back here and have analyzed to prove that I'd gone someplace. I brought it back, and one of the major television stations did a fantastic job for me. They put it out in a 30-minute color presentation, coast to coast,

this interview of the return and the objects. They paid for the whole thing. They paid for all the analysis of the soil samples, metal samples, the whole thing, analysis of the whole business through a rather acceptable firm here on the West Coast.

And as a result of all that, would you believe nothing but anguish, frustration, feelings that I wished I hadn't gone to such lengths? So I would prefer to think of it as a tongue-in-cheek situation rather than get hot under the collar

with somebody who says, I don't believe. The thing that's necessary for me to understand is that no matter how much data, whether they have found 100 civilizations or 100 saucers locked up in the Pentagon, if they choose to say they don't believe, that's it.

And that's your right, that's your privilege, to believe or disbelieve. And I don't believe it would be fair for me to try to shove it down your throats. So for what it's worth, I have had all those experiences, been contacted physically,

was not in a dream, brought back hardware, information, instructions, the whole thing. So instead of trying to tell you what you must do with it, let me turn it the other way around and ask you,

what should be done with it? And I'll leave it at that. What should be done with all this information? At present time, most of it that I've been given is in pigeon holes, waiting until some future time that it can be used,

some future time somebody would be interested. So I'll close it at that and leave it to you because I can't answer a question that's not asked and I have no way of knowing what your interests are, where they lie. We have two or three group leaders in the room.

If you'd like to leave your name and address on a card, then it'd be possible to get to you and find out what your interests are and we can deal with you on an individual basis or whatever way that you feel would be best suited. But after Mr. Goldbrecht

makes his little announcement, then I'll be receptive to whatever your wishes are. But I'll leave it to you. Put the question, throw the ball back to you. What do you want to do about it? Do you want to come up here? Do you want to come up here at this time

and give us the experience? Is Mr. Good here? Oh, you're Mr. Good? Yeah. Do you have an experience of a flying saucer? Oh. Would you like to give us a little resume of your experience?

Where do I start? All right. I'll try to put it as simple as possible. I was at the Edwards Drive-In Theater in Arcadia. And I was watching a movie. I didn't particularly care for it. So I was watching the mountains in the rear and to the east of me.

Petrified of this microphone in front of all these people. What I believe I saw was a Venusian scout ship for the simple reason that I have a picture of it in a book called Flying Saucers of London by George Adamski. The reason why I believe it to be this

is because it is coming from the east and going to the west. Dome shape, rotating searchlight. It's about 12 o'clock at night. But this alone is not the only experience I've had in that sense. I believe I've seen two of the people that came from it,

but not exactly from the same saucer though. People I believe I saw were in L.A. at the time. By his description in his books, describes them as being long hair and blonde. And the person I was passing by was about, he was standing out on 6th Street with his hands behind him. And he couldn't speak English.

And nobody knew where he came from. Very peculiar type of person. Seemed an average human being. I'd say about 6 feet tall. Fair haired. What else, I don't know. But as far as the second person, I was walking down on 7th Street

near my dad's shoe store, which is good, Barnett Shoe Company, which he's out of business now. He's gone to another business. He was walking down near Olive, I think. 6th and Olive. And also this individual,

he had long blonde hair. I'd make his age out at about possibly 65 to 70 years old. He was crossing the street. I sensed who he was, but I wasn't quite sure. So I watched him and concentrated on him. And he seemed to sense that somebody was watching him

because he turned around and glanced from side to side of the street. And seemed to think that somebody was watching him because then he turned around and looked at me. Looked very surprised and kept on walking across the street. So if he was or if he was not, I can't say.

But it does make one think. I have done quite a bit of research on this particular subject, collecting information from newspapers, taking the registered newspaper, which they run, Continuing UFO. I've talked to a great number of people, my conclusion is they exist.

There's such a variety of different types of spacecraft that's been reported. Cigar, oval. Where do you begin? And what about the method of propulsion? Do you need plasma physics, electromagnetic force fields, using atomic energy?

My conclusion is it exists. So that's it. Thank you. This is good. At this time then, we'll have a few questions. A period of, and I have some slips of paper

if you'd like to write out your requests or what you'd, any information that you'd like to pass on and this, we'll have some discussion on it. Would you, anyone would like to have? With the interest and time in mind, I'm going to go ahead

since I have half a dozen of these cards with me right now. The idea is to put your name and address on one of these three by five cards and then pass them up here and then I can run or get your name for the permanent file that I send out to people

whenever I speak in a given area. But also, Anyone else here? I have a question I can answer. The question is, as you entered another ionosphere, I think that's the word, left our atmosphere,

what happened physically to your body, to your blood pressure, etc.? First of all, I'm not entirely sure that I'm capable, I'm not a medical doctor, and I could not tell you concerning my blood pressure at the moment or my blood pressure

when I was speaking to you before, much less my blood pressure, say it, blood pressure six years ago or my blood pressure eight years ago. I physically got into a vehicle and from my point of view, I was enticed or intrigued

by looking at the various materials and the objects in the machine until such time that I got out of the machine and I did not at any time have the feeling that we went any place. There was no sense of motion whatsoever. And as to sensing or smelling

or seeing or feeling an ionosphere, I remained in the vehicle during the entire flight, just like going from one place to another in an airplane jet, generally you stay in the airplane. And I stayed in the UFO from this planet to the planet I was going in.

So I really don't know what to do with that question. Is there a clarification on that? Who asked me this? I don't know how to even handle this. Do you have any explanation of the millions of birds at the turn of, and I don't get that last word,

but P-R-A-V-V? Millions of birds. It could be possible an inner group would be type experience, they're ready to hear. Jeepers. Who asked this question

concerning the millions of birds? Do you have any explanation of the migration of birds at the turn, the second part of it, could be possible that an inner group could be started to have had

type experiences. Type experiences. We need a typist, I can say that for sure. Therefore, are ready to hear and expand in awareness. I don't know,

why don't you go through and pre-read these, please. Indole, okay, the indole, I-N-D-O-L-E is a catalyst, for lack of a better word,

that links your spirituality to your physical being. There are eight indole poisons which tend to destroy the function of the indole. They're in three groups, the destroyers, pork, spinach,

and chocolate, the obstructors, refined sugar, bleach, flour, and the, thanks, most of you know these,

and the confusers are tobacco, coffee, and what gang? Alcohol. And what are the eight foods? Indole. Those are the eight indole poisons.

Yes, ma'am. The first three are chocolate, pork, and spinach. What are the eight indole foods? We agree, people are not ready to hear.

No way of answering that. Anybody else has a question that can raise their hand right now and say it? Yes, ma'am. No, it would not deviate very much from what the,

what your family doctor would say, or what a good dietitian would say. But the problem is we neither follow our doctor's advice nor our dietitian's advice, or even the advice that's recommended in the local health food store.

So the only contradictory thing would be to say that these eight items that I've just mentioned are really hazardous to one's health instead of just being a, a side issue. I'm not suggesting the flavor is bad

in these eight items. I'm saying that they are definitely deterrents to your spirituality. Yes, opposed to coal-tar base. So we're talking about organics. In fact, the word endolics

has pretty much the same idea

[01:58:20] Questions and closing discussion

as organics. That which is alive or has been alive has life force in it. I'm not a doctor, so I can't speak with authority and I have to be careful with the type of question.

I'm not an attorney either. Yes, sir. Was cigarettes one of the group? Tobacco, whether it's cigars or cigarettes or chewing or, you know, do you know

a flight of fire? We had a speaker, Dan Fryer, talked about that. Do you know why a flight of fire, oh yeah, I remember. This question has to do with

the Bermuda Triangle, singular, and I have referred, in fact, as I mentioned during the lecture I was giving you, there's been many things that I have reported

in print years back and at the time I said these things they were not generally known. I have spoken about six collection points, not one,

six collection points and the Bermuda Triangle being one of those points and since that time the Lloyds of London in their investigations have come up with specifically 12 points,

six that are on land and six that are in the ocean that are points where people tend to disappear from and the only reason that they came up with that particular

bit of information was they used a computer. I wasn't using a computer, I just simply asked a question relative to the Bermuda Triangle and I was simply told that there are a total of six collection points.

Is this your question? This is Michael. This is also something that I've studied intensely. I was interested in what happens to, let's say, the USS Cyclops

back in 1918 which disappeared with 309 persons and a tonnage of 10,000 tons of magnesium and strings of steel. Now it was,

I can only think of three things that logically could have happened. One, it was sunk. In that case there would be wreckage. Number two, it's a possibility

that space people could have taken it or people or what and I can think of a third where something like this could be going through another tiny dimension. I don't know

but this is probably helpful. I've answered your question. Collection points. Who is responsible? There is a group of individuals that have peculiar names. Some people call them men in black, MIBs.

Others call them by different names but they're not really out to our best good and if I have to give a name who's responsible that would be the group. Who is responsible?

I didn't say that. I repeated the answer twice. We are supposed to be 60% into the fourth dimension. Have the space people said anything about this? I've never been told whether we're 4% or 10%

or 6% dry or wet or into or out of. I don't know how to react to that. This is definitely what 12 years after 1962 and 1962 was the beginning of the new age. And whatever way

you want to read that we should have been very further along compared with where we are right now because these individuals have come here to try to assist in whatever way they can and we have shot at them

and we have yelled at them and we have laughed at them and what I was talking about when I first was contacted was interplanetary culture exchange and that probably seems to be the furthest thing from anyone's mind

when they talk about flying saucers. They want to talk in terms of did you shoot it down or did it sink or did it blow up or some kind of violence. Whereas I think what we're trying to do is we're trying to help each other

get to a position where we can understand ourselves, understand one another and prepare ourselves so that we can cooperate in our own adventure in meeting with these aliens who are really not that alien

and extending this knowledge into bettering our lives, bettering our civilization, bettering our communities. So it's really talking about a plus, a positive end of it, not talking about a negative end of it and we are right now

in perhaps the most exciting drama that's ever going to happen. Imagine if you were picking up a book and the book told you that 200 years from now will be the new age and that will be the most exciting time. That's not what we're reading.

We're talking about it right here, right now, being the most exciting time of your lives. To be in on this just as the adventure is unfolding and the government obviously is getting more and more evidence

to the contrary that these in fact are physical devices here. The percentage is 57% of the people believe in them. I think 11% have seen them and we don't have any idea of what percentage

have actually been aboard because many times I've been at these things and people come up afterwards and ask, well, what do you suggest I do? I have seen a UFO or I've been on a UFO.

And my question back to the other individual is, are you independently wealthy or do you have your own business? And if they're independently wealthy, retired, or else have their own business, well fine,

go ahead and talk about what you've seen. But if you work for somebody else, if you work for a part of the government, or if you work for the Board of Education, or you work for any kind of a situation where it's going to reflect back on your job, I'd suggest you just keep it under your own hat. Do you believe that you are being led

by God in your research and teachings? Yes, I do. It's not just a vague belief because this is something that is being taught. This is the reason that I took the time to begin with this evening. To try to get it across

that I am not where I am because I happened to look up in the air one day. It had to do with years of training, spiritually. And when I went into the Orient, I did not go there on a joyride or as a person to snap pictures.

I went there to intern myself in a monastery. I lived as a monk, hair shaved off, itchy robe, that whole business for a period of time to develop myself.

When I came out of there, I had no idea that I had a very unusual ability to heal, which I do not attribute to any kind of a mechanical thing at all. And I traveled around here in Southern California and the results that were forthcoming

could only be referred to this as the creator. I refer to him as the boss, but I don't mean it as a sacrilegious comment at all. But that's the whole point. This is our common creator. What is the magazine

for the radio? Magazine for the radio. What do you contact? I don't know how to read this. The magazine for the radio. The only magazine that I know of that talked about this particular radio had to do with Gabriel Green

and he did a periodical on the contact with that. And there's another fellow back east that built a similar device and also said that he had the same types of results. But we're not talking about any kind of special radio.

We're just talking about radio contact, listening. Let me have some questions off the floor here. These seem rather dead. Slipping it up. Yes, ma'am. This is what I have said, yes.

You ask me why? Because the planets were in conjunction. I'm not speaking about astrology now. But I believe there were five planets in conjunction at that time. And this does not occur again until 25,000 years later. And this was not only a point of reference

from our common knowledge, but bear in mind I have been contacted. And the peculiar nature of this contact is to be told where to go and what to look for when I go to look for it. So consequently I've been given quite a bit of credit

for having discovered things when in actual fact all I'm doing is carrying out a very routine type of mission. For example, in Europe I went over into the Swiss Alps. And there I did find certain things, but I didn't discover them.

I was sent there. In many other instances I've been sent to do things. And from my point of view I'm like a glorified messenger boy. But somebody has to get the blame or the credit. And so that's why

when I have an opportunity I try to point out that I've been the custodian of various things. At various times. And so I was the custodian of knowledge in this case which I'm extending on to you because it was not for me personally.

And that is the point in time referred to as the New Age. To coincide with the knowledge. Yeah, other questions? Yes, ma'am. Did I talk wherever I've been, whoever I was with? The first 15 or 20 years

of this whole thing was strictly speaking spiritual development. No, it was quite the other way around. You see, spiritual development takes on the presumption that there is a creator. And so I was studying the spiritual development line

along with them. And they, in 1962, wait a minute, 61 I think it was. Was the light in 61 or 2? 61, okay. April 25th, 1961, was the first time that I realized

who and what I was dealing with. Up until that time, I thought that I was going into trance and contacting beings on the inner spiritual plane, meaning on a step and file up towards the creator. And at that particular time,

I was told that yes, this is true, but many of these individuals are in physical bodies. And so I was then introduced to the teacher I had been working with for many years, Fage. But I was introduced in the sense that I was told who he really was.

I thought of him as a super-duper teacher. But then I found out he was a sector commander, and later on I found out the word sector referred to galaxy. So he's the galactic commander of this particular galaxy we're in right now.

In that same period of time, he introduced me to the gentleman who is in charge of him, a fellow named Brizgov, B-R-S-G-V. And I was pretty awestruck at that point as well, because this was directly above him. And they asked me

if I was ready for the great light, or words to that effect. And I didn't mean it as any slam or slander or anything of that sort, but my thinking was, why not? From a metaphysical point of view, that sounds like a good deal. And so I said yes.

But bear in mind, there was just a few seconds between each of these comments. And so I said yes, not really knowing what I was letting myself hit for. And so the next thing that happened to me was I felt a total bombardment.

In fact, I thought I'd lost my sanity, if you really want to know. It scared the heck out of me. And I felt that the Creator wanted me to do this one thing, to go to the Orient and search for these two groups that had accomplished some things

and had failed miserably in other areas, and that I would never be contacted again in my normal life, if I did not complete this. And I didn't have to go and do it, but I would never be contacted again. And so I came out of that experience rather shaken,

believing, understand there's no hard, no weighing on scales or measuring or photographs, believing that I had been contacted by the Creator. But there was no organized church standing there and saying,

you have been, you know, who are they? Which particular planet are you referring to? Well, any planet. I can't answer the question for all planets. The individuals that I have contacted,

I can answer some of the questions, but only a very limited amount of that knowledge. I am very much a student and not a teacher situation. So they did not say that they were representing Satan or anything of that nature.

They were representing the common Creator. And from their point of view, what would be sane and sensible would also be serving our common Creator. And the reverse of that would be not serving

our common Creator. They do not recognize anything other than the good side. The other is just not doing good. And I'm trying to stay out of the religious camp here. Yes, ma'am. Some that say

that make themselves known to you appear like ordinary people from this planet. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. In fact, the first individual that showed up at my house, let me finish answering here.

The first fellow that showed up at my house, Zemclaw, he knocked on the door. I opened the door and he opened the screen and came right into my front room. And I didn't take him to be anybody from another planet.

I took him to be a wise guy that was looking for one of the studios in Hollywood and stopped in there and asked me where Desilu Studio is or RKO, one of those studios. And he turned around

and announced to me he was Zemclaw. Well, Zemclaw squirts. You know, I didn't know who Zemclaw was. And it was only after he had repeated himself quite a few times

that I got it into my head that he was trying to get it across to me that he was an extraterrestrial. But I didn't believe him one minute. It was only after we went outside

and he motioned to the craft and it lowered itself a bit where I could see it that I paid any attention to what he had to say. They can recreate themselves into our likenesses or...

I just can't understand how... No, they are superior enough that they can write a letter, purchase a stamp and mail it, or use a telephone, or walk up to your door and knock on it

in a very conventional manner. The 99% of my experiences have been of that nature. But the unfortunate thing about it is that very few people want to hear about a telephone call or a letter

or a knock on a door. They want to hear only about UFOs that are very large, going very fast, and very difficult to believe. But... And so all total,

in all these years, I've only had six of those experiences, two of which took me any place of any consequence. One left me a long ways from my car, and the others

I just walked through and back out. It was just simply a meeting place. The rest of the time, and we're talking about many years, have been conventional

phone calls, meeting and having a cup of coffee and talking about things over. It's been that type of thing and a lot of leg work on my part.

When they go back to their own... The question, I'm not sure the question you're asking, but the question is asked me very often, what do they look like?

Do they look like us? And my answer is no, they don't look like us at all. They're very healthy. And I don't mean that facetiously. They look healthy. One head,

two hands, you know. You know what a human being looks like. Around here, you can see a lot of them, huh? I have not gone back

to the annals of time. I can't answer the question. They've advanced from being sick to being healthy. And they've advanced from accepting the glorious disease

called old age, which leads to the grave. They've rejected that and accepted health and sanitation and avoided the virus that brings about old age and death.

And many of these individuals are at ages that shock our imagination. So that would be very much contradictory to our way of thinking here. Here it's wonderful if you make it to 100,

but that would be pathetic from their point of view. Yes? I think I could very easily say yes they can, just like we've advanced to the point where we can race up and down the street.

It's 60 miles an hour in our car, but we don't. They've advanced to a point where they could really frighten the heck out of us, but they don't.

They've advanced to a point where they do not interfere or frighten the natives. They would be able to adjust to our polluted atmosphere and probably could adjust

to our polluted foods, but choose not to. Those who do come here come here for a very limited number of minutes and are really not too pleased to have, you know, people shooting at them

and at best breathing air that is shortening their lives. Yes, back here in the yellow. Okay, let me give you an overview of two flights. The first flight took something like 30 minutes going,

approximately 30 minutes returning, and I have no idea how long I was there, but something like a half a day. During that whole time I had a beverage and like a fruit juice,

a very thick fruit juice. The second time was three days in duration and I did eat and it would be comparable to the types of things we'd get here except for one striking difference.

It was very, very sparse and I constantly had the feeling like I was being gypped. I mean, you know, such small amounts. I was not hurt from it, you understand, but they did provide the food

and the sleeping and all that type of thing, but it was very, very sparse. I'm not complaining from what I needed and what I received, but I'm trying to give you my emotional reaction.

You paint a very rosy picture. I have to go kind of, I don't know what I ate, but it was something that had to do with meat and not a great deal of it. I honestly have no idea what kind of food I was eating.

That was really not the most exciting parts of the experience. Yes, in the back. I felt that the, I had the feeling that the meat that I ate was definitely processed

and I felt that it was been, had ground up with something like soy beans or something of that nature so that it was not totally beef. It was a good part of it, something else, whether it was grain

or what, I have no idea. And this, you're asking me to remember something that was, it's like asking you the last time you ate at Big Boy Bob's, you know, what was the composition of a piece of potato

on your plate? At the time, everything seemed very interesting to me. However, I have sort of a blockage over the whole experience. Bear in mind, since I have talked

about these things, it has not been a pleasant experience. It's been anything but pleasant. I don't know if you follow that line of thought at all. I don't feel unhappy standing here talking about it,

but having somebody grueling you hour after hour with a polygraph strapped on you, pretty soon you wish you're somewhere else. I passed all of those tests, incidentally. It didn't serve any purpose,

but I passed the test. Oh, yes, bear in mind, I have had classes all during this period of time, which I get into it at length, and I've written about 15 books on the various subjects I've talked about,

but I didn't feel it would be a form of etiquette to be that commercial this evening. I was just trying to share ideas. Yes, because I don't have that photographic of memory to be able to quote page after page

the type of data you're asking. Yes, but I'm not trying to say it's the only source of it. You probably would find very good directions at your health store or your doctor. There's nothing that radical.

Well, then, yeah, let me suggest a book to you. Let us send you out a book ad, then, of the books available. I was trying to avoid being commercial here this evening. Yes, there are classes available

at the present time. Thank you, because someone would kick me in the shins later for not bringing that point. I don't mean Clarence here. It would be my... the other half back there. Well, Katrina,

why don't you stand up. This is... Represent the West for a moment. This is the West. She's the one representing our Western group. Here is...

Kathy, would you come in? This lady represents Orange County. And she's... Both these ladies have organized groups in those areas. And Carol tries to keep it all organized within itself.

There are two other... Herb from the North and Donna are not here. But we do have four groups. And the reason for just simply dividing the area, plus I limit myself to four nights a week.

I figure that's it. And four nights a week, I don't know if you realize it or not, but doing... I work a full-time job in the daytime, four nights a week teaching, lecturing on the weekend.

That's pretty much it. But there are classes, and we will certainly give that information. I'm not trying to be stingy with the commercial, but it seems to me when I was sitting there,

you want... You came here to hear about the experience about the UFO, something more solid than you hear a commercial. That you get on TV. So if we can get your address,

we can send you a commercial. Yeah. The planet Celo, is that around the binary star in the Milky Way? Celo, S-E-L-O, near the Bernard star, which is a double star.

And I honestly have no idea where it is relative to the Milky Way. I'm sorry. It's on most star charts, the Bernard star. It's a double star. It's a very intriguing star

for that reason. Yes. I understand. This is what's referred, what it is. It's a device which is worn around the neck, which is,

it looks like a jewel or something like that. It's very impressive. They are able...