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1970 Giant Rock Convention Frank Stranges George Van Tassel Stanton Friedman Dan Fry On Why They Come And Mutual Agreement
Recording structure
- [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
- [24:28] Main address
- [01:14:48] Development of the main themes
- [01:51:32] Questions and closing discussion
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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
Written, too, by the President of the United States and also by the presidential aide, Harry S. Fleming, thanking him for his thoughtful recommendations and appointments to the administration. It's good that we know that people in this movement of caliber and backbone and courage and educational and professional background, such as Dan Fry, are in contact with our government officials because, believe you me, they know what is going on down here. And don't you think they don't? We also have a number of other interesting articles about Scotland and what in the world is going on throughout the world involving UFOs.
We have about 30 of these left, if you'd like to avail yourself of them. Now, as you heard yesterday, we have here also from the East Coast Jim Mosley and Gray Barker. They are the ones that are putting out this magazine, The Flying Saucer News. We have a supply of these left. They are collector's items now, and they come in sets of four. So if you want to go for a dollar, help yourself to those. Jim Mosley spent many years in the UFO field compiling what's called the Book of Saucer News, which you can get in your local bookstore for $5.
If you want one here today, you can take it for a dollar. Now, UFOs, which is commonly referred to as unidentified flying objects, have been with us for many thousands of years. Those of you who have done research and investigation into the subject, you know full well that this is no recent phenomena. Here we are in 1970, and we know today, almost as much as we did 4,000 years ago, just but for a few exceptions. In Bible times, there was an old gentleman by the name of Elijah.
He is known in conjunction with a strange aerial phenomena called the Fiery Chariot. Many ministers will get up. They'll preach about this Fiery Chariot, and they'll make one vast mistake, and that is, Elijah never did go up in that Fiery Chariot. The Bible doesn't say that. However, it does say he was caught up in a whirlwind. The prophet Zechariah, also of the Old Testament, he said, I looked and I beheld a strange phenomena, and he called it a flying roll or the flying scroll.
But perhaps the most famous. Besides the words of Isaiah, who said, Who are these that fly from cloud to cloud as birds to their nests? Perhaps the most unusual and most complete incident in holy writ is that found in the entire first chapter of the book of Ezekiel. Now, we have a new book coming out, God willing, next year, that's called by an interesting title, and the title is Confusion in Action. Nothing to do with the CIA.
But nothing to do with the CIA. But nothing to do with the CIA. But nothing to do with the CIA. But nothing to do with the CIA. But nevertheless, we do have some reference to that organization in the book, too, because we must give credit to whom credit is due. Not for the confusion, but for the things that they do, too. Now, the prophet of the Old Testament, the book of Ezekiel,
he is quite conclusive. And we break down, verse by verse, in the original Hebrew tongue, exactly what this man is trying to tell us by simply utilizing the language of the Bible. The language and the technology of his particular year and generation. He said, I beheld a vehicle. It looked like a wheel, and it was spinning. On the outside, there was another wheel.
And he called it the wheel within the wheel. And he said, I looked, and I beheld windows that were high and terrible. Well, now, how do we interpret that? We examine the Hebrew word for windows in the book of Ezekiel, and we look at the same word for, in the book of Ecclesiastes, used for the word eyes, and we find they're exactly the same words. He said, I saw these eyes that scared the liver out of me when he actually meant the windows.
Now, many UFOs that have been sighted throughout the world, they have been seen both elongated, cigar-shaped, saucer-shaped, spherical-shaped, and most of them... seem as though they have windows on the side of these particular vehicles. Ezekiel calls it the wheel within the wheel. He says it came and went as a flash of lightning. One recent report by a scientist stated that the United States government has absolute evidence
that UFOs have been tracked at speeds above 20,000 miles per hour in our atmosphere without disintegrating. We put out a small record. It's called Flying Saucers Unlimited. It contains all the information I'm giving you today. And in this record, we show how the aerodynamics experts are dumbfounded. They're confused today because these vehicles are going at such tremendous speeds, executing impossible maneuvers, right-angle turns, without disintegrating.
The serious professor of science, the top-notch scientist, goes on record. Not only in scientific journals, but also in public meetings. And they say, it's impossible. These things cannot be. It's utterly impossible. And these are the same scientists that go on record as stating it's impossible for the bumblebee to fly, too.
Because according to the laws of aerodynamics, his body is too heavy and the wings are too short, so he cannot fly. But thank God the bumblebee can't read. So he just gets up and flies anyhow. Many things the experts have told us cannot be. They are. They're facing us 24 hours a day. Now, as we examine the entire UFO picture,
many serious-minded people are wondering, where do I stand in the scheme of this entire picture? What do UFOs have to do with me? What has it got to do with my religion? What has it got to do as far as, giving me a greater impression or a deeper appreciation of the things of God? You know, we've been walking around on this planet for quite a few thousand years. Chan Thomas will talk to you about that later.
But we've been here, natives of this planet, for quite some time. And look what we have accomplished in the span of about 61 years. In the early days, there were two brothers who dared to step out of line and be counted. We call them the Wright brothers. They made the brave announcement to the world that tomorrow morning at Kitty Hawk, cousins were going to fly. And the clergymen got up and they said, well, if God wanted you to fly, he would have given you wings.
They passed judgment. They preached sermons against these fellas. Scientists wrote articles against these two boys. But what did they do? They plugged up their ears with Johnson & Johnson cotton and they went out early in the morning and they said, back up, fellas, we're going to fly. And the clergymen, according to the front pages of the local newspapers,
walked up and down the area at Kitty Hawk that early morning and they had their hands raised to the heavens. And they said, oh, God, you just show them that they're not allowed to fly. And the fellows said, come on, preacher, you better get your tail out of the way. We're going to fly in a few minutes. And the Wright brothers, they were scorned, they were scoffed, they were lied against, they were falsely accused. They got back.
Crazy-looking contraption called an aerial plane going down the side of that hill. Suddenly it began to catch the wind underneath its wings and it lifted from the ground. And the preachers were screaming, it won't fly, it won't work. They started looking into the sky. They saw the Wright brothers' conventional, unconventional plane flying. And they said, well, it won't stay up. But it stayed up all of these years.
Through the development of aviation alone, we now have these fantastic planes similar to the 747 jet, these intercontinental jets. We've been able to put man in a cooped-up capsule and spun him around this planet Earth. We've spun him out into the further galaxy. We've put man around the moon. And finally man has landed on the moon,
all in the short span of about, about 61 years. Now put your thinking cap on for a moment. How far in advance to us can you imagine that people who are flying these impossible maneuvers, people who perhaps have come from other galaxies and other planets visiting us, how far ahead of us do you think they could possibly be?
Back here now, let's call it back at the ranch, using the first few chapters of my book, Saucerama, which is now in the fourth edition and has been accepted in many colleges in the nation. First of all, UFOs, are they figments of the imagination or are they reality? Those of you who raised your hands before, you said you saw a UFO.
How many of you really meant it? Now let me see your, did you really actually see something? Did you really see something or did you think you saw something? Are you positive? You are. All right. That means some of the people have seen something unexplainable.
We don't know where they're from at this point, the things that you saw. We don't know even what they look like, but you do. What have you done to let your testimony become a part of the public record? I would be willing to tell you to take a paper and pencil. If you don't have any, go over to my book table when I'm through, get yourself one of my business cards
and write in your own handwriting, exactly what you saw and I will do my darndest to see that your story becomes public record in our newsletter because I'm interested in letting the entire world know exactly what's going on. Now, are these things from the Soviet government? Some people say they must be from Russia. Well, cousin, listen.
If Russia had something that could travel through the atmosphere at speeds defying the laws of aerodynamics, they would have done more than just bang their shoe with the UN some years ago. Believe me. Because these things go back to 4,000 B.C. It's nothing current. Third chapter, well, some of these could be an invention
of the United States government. I say yes, it is possible because America has been conducting unusual experiments in the field of space and science that they don't want you to know about until you're ready, but not in 4,000 B.C. Next chapter, the outer space question. Could they be coming from outer space? Wernher von Braun's teacher,
Professor Hermann Oberth, told our convention in Germany several years ago that they possibly are coming from the outer galaxy, which raises the question, what could these people want from us? What if a saucer would come overhead right now and see the people that are here today and what we're doing? And God help us if they saw what went on here last night. Do we have anything that they could possibly want?
Maybe they want our great intelligence, individual achievement. Oh, we have great achievement. Why, bless your dear heart, years ago we learned how to kill man with a bow and arrow. Today all we have to do is press a button and not kill one person, but many hundreds, maybe thousands, with atomic weapons. You call this scientific advancement? I suggest, this is just a suggestion, that people from other worlds could have you and
me, under surveillance for many thousands of years. They are interested in seeing how far we're going to go. And I will say this for the sake of everybody here who's never heard me before. I do not believe for one solitary moment that Almighty God is going to allow or permit some dense half-wit, some place half around the world, to plunge our nation into the abyss of the abyss of the abyss of the abyss of the abyss of the abyss of the abyss of the abyss.
To plunge our nations into an atomic catastrophe that will wind up entirely annihilating the people from the face of God's earth. I do not believe that one single man has that much power. I do believe that there is a strong possibility that some UFOs could even be carrying on an investigation of their own, watching how far men and women on this planet are going. I do know this. People on this planet are suffering today such as never before, physically as well as mentally.
I do know that help is on the way. I further know that you're going to have to look within yourself, because that's where you'll find the spark of the infinite, divine spark of power and the power of God within you that can be influencing you. I do know this. I do know this. I do know this. I do know this.
Man and women around you, how many of you believe that? Say aye. Now, I mentioned something yesterday that ruffled somebody's feathers. This is good. Oh, I just love to ruffle feathers. One fellow said that I made a statement that just rubbed him the wrong way. Well, this is fine. This is fine because he will now stop and investigate whether his way is the right way
or not. I did not tend to stir anybody to that extent, but I'm glad it happened. I simply said, do not expect the Almighty to send some great planetarian from another world, from another solar system, to land here in California and tell Governor Reagan how to run California. It's not going to happen that way. No one's going to land and tell the U.N. how to run the world. No one's going to land and tell Mr. Nixon how to run the United States of America.
That is not the way they're going to do it. That is not part of their master plan. Part of the plan is this. That's been outlined in this unusual book being made into a full-length motion picture, Stranger at the Pentagon. This is the man that I met in Washington, D.C., who claimed to have come from another planet. Some people believe it. Some people don't.
I personally am not too concerned whether the unbelievers disbelieve. I am concerned over the points that he set forth when he spoke to the United Nations in closed session, which very few people at the United Nations, admitted, even Abdul Ghani, the head of the Outer Space Affairs Committee. He said, our particular responsibility is to mingle with and become as Earth people. Question, what do people from other planets look like? Listen, friend, the last I heard, there's only one God, there's only one creator of us all. Why should he create a monstrosity of a personification of something that the cat dragged in?
To come and walk here in giant rock with four legs, two eyes, one bloodshot in the center, if you please, and one antenna sticking up so. I firmly believe, as I have met this person who looks and acts like a human being, who looks like a man, that one creator of the universe is not going to make you and I look the way we do and people on other worlds look like a monstrosity. I further believe that when the good book refers to angelic beings, it speaks about the human being. It speaks of angels in every single case.
I repeat, every single case. In the Old as well as the New Testaments, angels look like what? Tell me. They look like men. In every case where the good book talks about angels, they look like men. They ate and drank like men. They walked like men. I don't know what Sunday school teacher you've been listening to
that tell you that angels are cute little creatures. They have big teeth like you, Dad, with great big wings. Forget it. Second, Val Thor told me one of his missions was to labor and work as earth in earth enterprises. Those who encounter possible threat or danger while striving for world peace. Fourth, to give them advice and guidance. Some people wouldn't take advice from Jesus Christ himself or he'd come down to tap them on the shoulder
because people are so set in their ways, they'll say, Look, I'll do it on my own. And he's going to let you do it on your own. until you need help next to trust and trust with superior knowledge those who have proven themselves and last to divulge the essence of our mission to the collective national leaders of earth only when the time is right i ask you listen carefully i ask you if a spaceship were to leave this planet earth and president nixon has gotten together enough monies from the various departments to construct to construct such a great ship for you to visit the other planets what do you think
would happen if everybody here who's at this convention today should set foot on another planet what would we do first what would you do first what would be your heart's desire what would be your enterprise your endeavor i'm of a mind that i do not believe now this is unkind for me to say and i'm going to get repercussions but i'm ready for it i do not believe that today sunday october 1970 that any of us are ready to visit another planet but i think if you search out your own heart you'll have to agree but i believe the time is coming in the very near future as people draw closer and closer to the creator and as the creator he himself draws closer and closer to you that they will develop that supreme harmony
and spark of divinity within you that will cause you to be qualified when the time is right for you individually to visit another planet question how many of you would say that you would definitely love to meet someone from another world let's see your hands if this were possible i say it is possible when i met this man at the pentagon several years later we wrote the book then appeared on the art link letter show and then we were visited by bobby kennedy bobby kennedy came to our home sat in the living room requested the name and address of this man called valiant thor from another planet he said that you were talking about on the art link letter show i said mr kennedy may i please ask you why you'd
like to meet with him he said first of all i'd like to know who the blankety blank really killed my brother that was his first and foremost question his second question he said i want to determine by getting advice from him whether or not i will succeed if i run for the presidency of the united states within thirty days ladies and gentlemen
with my meeting with val thirty days after mr kennedy left with his two young men from van nuys valiant said to me that mr kennedy did question him carefully upon his about his possibilities of winning the presidency valiant thor told bobby kennedy and everybody knows that it was associated in that particular circle to keep as far away from the presidential race as humanly possible he said keep out of los angeles it seems strange now here is a man who claims to be from another world
who's telling a potential presidential candidate to keep away from the race and the candidate ignores everything this gentleman says goes into l.a. only to meet the bullet of an assassin it seems unusual that from time to time even you have requested information and advice from a spiritual leader
or even from your own mother and dad and when they gave you the advice how many of us as young children at one time said to our parents ah you don't know what you're talking about i know better than you do i went to school you see i know it all
but we're finding today that our society is malignant with a cancer that can only be removed by spiritual power spiritual force and spiritual understanding and after we get through the spiritual fog we're going to have to come down to the level of the human being and attack these problems on our own level i'm personally convinced
that we are gradually entering into this area called the new age and you will awaken one of these mornings perhaps this week perhaps this month perhaps before perhaps before this year is out and you will find that within your grasp there will be something such as you have never recognized before
it is possible for you to have a meeting with a person from another world carl anderson who you'll hear this afternoon met people from another world bought a spaceship not too far from here, if he chooses to tell you these things. Other people here have met individuals from other worlds. What do they look like? They don't all look alike. I can just tell you what this man looked like. His name is Valiant Thor. He's been recognized time and time again, not just here in California, but even in foreign countries. He has helped
individuals. And when the time comes for you to have such a meeting, believe me, you will never forget it, nor will you regret it as long as you live. In conclusion today, I'd like to say that we've thoroughly enjoyed these two days with you, that we trust that more and more of you will become attuned to what's going on. Everybody here is not going to be attuned. Let's not kid ourselves. But some of you have come from a long way. You've driven many miles. You've come many miles by plane to attend this convention. And I do not believe, for a moment, that people who are sincere, honest with themselves and with God are going to leave this place suffering a hunger in their own being, because I believe you will get something out of
this convention, something that you'll never forget. Thank you for listening to me, and God
[24:28] Main address
bless you. Thank you, Frank Stranges. Friedman to come up here again. You know, if he talked to you for two weeks, 24 hours a day, he couldn't possibly tell you all of the messages he voted out to this fiction to finding out what's going on. Nickel groups, people in Missouri to, uh, and methods of speech there, and it was being called a brilliant mind and the person of people weren't here yet. Okay, I'll try to mix in scientific community, because surely no scientist is talking about flying saucers. This happened in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago. A couple of people, at least the officers, have been solved. I said it was in their one journal. The basis of the should be support. You see, it's my contention. Now, it's no surprise if NICAP or
APRO, the two big groups, it's no surprise at all if they didn't do the job. But it is surprising when response, the attention of the science, is in a paper that equipment in the time we lifted the left occurred. I'd like to throw in a that you wouldn't know and Condon had 540th Ohio report, which was rather noisy in the award of the contract. Everybody knew it was awarded. The group at Mattel studied 2,200 sightings, and the Condon report discusses a little bit over a hundred. Information of all sorts was not classified to be unknown. They couldn't identify. The unknowns were real, but no intelligence in the next about it. Something in the sky is a little bit hard to pin down. You can't tell how far away it is, how big it
is, how fast. You can't get an absolute measure. And something on the ground, the same thing goes for sightings by far, would be those of people don't know that there are saw these things. And frankly, after you entirely fault them for some of these things, it's impossible. There's a very long list. Neglect called together a committee, the future of the gas turbine, and the opinion of this committee because it was too heavy. So they built success when it comes to evaluating the future technology today. All the equipment to do that was vacuum tube operated to launch our Apollo. On this case, this is a few billion bucks. Tremendous for as long as they weren't applied. I discussed this with regard to a state mashed potatoes and gravy. Bread under 12
years of age is a dollar. There's a few people picked up anybody that says Johnny come lately, that might be getting a message from making an effort that he can talk. In many aspects, I'm no Dan frying. You know, he has such a wide, aren't impossible, probable. Does it begin at that point to be paid to these things and just a tour to look at what's going on here and then go on their way. There's the second group might come in and spend study might then go. We might refer to as the missionary class on it has reached the critical point in their development, that development completely and throw it back perhaps 20,000. Do you think it is time that in the destruction?
Of the rate close enough, perhaps it was done in the case, which I'm familiar with 1950, the environment. I think one week that the humanoid form is a rather common one to this. I could give you the exact reasons why statistics says it would be a common one, but we can't speak on everything in a single afternoon. To begin with, there were a few minor difference while they did breathe in atmosphere contained as well as oxygen, also to trace elements with the body of the humanoid form. So it was necessary to custom the systems by ingestion. Custom to is about half of hours. And this puts a rather severe strain on the vital organs, which are hung by ligaments. If they suddenly wait twice as much as normal, that it would require about four years of
our time to overcome actual time was desired. The fact was accomplished some years ago, get the individual in touch with a few people who could do the things that had to be done, like getting this individual a proper birth certificate showing he was born in the United States, and then a passport so that he could travel in other countries. And these require delicate negotiations, but they weren't done. This individual has been a perfectly normal appearing resident of this planet at the moment. If he weren't, I perhaps could introduce you. But unless I told you he was alien, you would never guess it. And even if I told you he was
alien, you would never believe it. He would be perfect to continue in existence so that it will have a chance to solve its critical problems on this planet. And I don't say they are because I don't know. I assume it is probable. I know of only one. And I know that individual well. Well, all many, if any of them know that his origin is alien to this planet, but he gets around. He, uses the background of an import-export buyer. He actually does do buying for several large import companies. And this gets him access to any country because whether a country is friendly or not, they all have something they want to buy or sell.
And we'll welcome anyone who is in a position to do the arranging. He happens to be in Cairo, Egypt at the moment, weeks ago, when our enemies, eight and tens of thousands only came out alive, but there wasn't one chance in the world. And he was born in the United States. He was born in the United States in the early 40s, in the early 50s. So, you know, what happened is such a thing as that, that in a million, that such a thing could happen. And if you think it happened, and the world of the existence of those who we might refer to as the missionary group, who have taken it upon themselves, not to lead us, not to show us the way, but simply to enable us to continue in existence long enough until we can find the way,
and perhaps offer a few suggestions. Long story, This individual, before he left, was on a United Airlines plane flying from Medford, Oregon, to Sacramento, California. He was on his way to talk to the governor of this state at the time. He had an appointment. I talked to Ronald Reagan. I don't know whether Reagan knows that he's alien or not. I doubt it a little bit, but many other people in government positions have talked to him, with some of them. Anything else that I might be able to do? I've done whatever I can up to the present time. You get around quite a bit. Perhaps you could get to solving your social planet.
There's an emotion that is not subject to come to you tomorrow and say, I love your neighbor, Joe Jones, two doors down the street. A million dollars, you'd say, well, gosh, for a million dollars, of course I will. Of course I will. Well, I'll love that miserable, no-good, stupid so-and-so if it kills me. We must love our neighbors. We have to have some additional information on how to go about it. Psychological. Psychologists or psychiatrists can give us some advice on this subject.
You have to find some way to associate yourself with that person. Your pleasure or whatnot, you have to find a way to associate yourself with that person and exist. And so we say go about it. We can love our neighbors. We have to find some way that we can do it. You have to find similarities to begin with, and you have to find some ways in which you are the same. Some things in which you are the same. I mentioned yesterday.
I just got back here. I just got back from 10 weeks in Europe. My principal purpose of those 10 weeks in Europe was to teach, which I did. This nuclear physicist teaches at the university in Spain. He published a language edition of his new book and endorsed it to me. He signed it and gave it to me and said, when you read this, you'll find how close our ideas are alike. As far as the discussion, he said, Dr. Fry, he said, I have to say one thing. Agreed with every single thing you have said.
And he said, there are not very many people that I can say that of. I'm sure he couldn't possibly have agreed with everything I had said in two hours if I was talking for myself.
[01:14:48] Development of the main themes
I had to sit at his home for five minutes and you listen carefully and tell me how it should be. And she said, I listened very carefully and very critically. She said, I wouldn't change a word. It's exactly as I wish I had written. These things to point out that this has been tested. It's been tested. It's been tested by the top minds in science. It's been tested by some of the top minds in politics.
It's been tested by some of the top economists to do it in other countries to see if their thinking was the same as ours. One thing, it is going to read it to you this afternoon. It's going to be pushed on the widest possible scale in the coming few months. And you'll probably hear quite a bit about it because it will be on radio, television and the newspapers. You'll begin to hear about it in the United States. It's a very simple thing. In fact, it's almost childishly simple. And that is the great merit.
It's too complex. If you think this sounds good and you'd like to get a copy, we do have some copies over at our booth. The White Sands Incident that I talked about yesterday, how this all came about. We have, I think, about six copies of the White Sands Incident left. To get there, you can have ten cents apiece to print the five pages and staple them. If you want to get a copy and you want to leave a dime. That is, if you think this civilization is worth a dime or if you think your children's lives are worth a dime, leave a dime there. If you think civilization and your children's lives are worth a quarter, we'll accept that too and just print more papers with it.
Not a penny of anything that comes in from this will be used for any presentation. It's going to be together when I rode on the United Airlines plane from Medford, Oregon to Sacramento, California. It may be made more successful, more productive and more enduring. Colleges and universities and governments expend billions of dollars and man-hours of efforts upon this science. The fact remains that no nation has ever been established. It should be and which it must become if it is to furnish practices which have arisen and which will continue to arise concerning the proper attitude and actions of man toward his fellow man. In some cases, the followers may be few.
While in other cases, entire nations are enticed. In other cases, entire races may become eager and devout followers. Yet those who follow each leader do so primarily because of the aesthetics or the emotional appeal of the doctrine, rather than because of any tested and proven merit. A continuing series of randoms is instituted and conducted by those whose position of authority enables them to influence, and in some cases to exercise actual control, over the thoughts and actions of their fellow men. Some of these experiments may be partly or prove to be total failures,
and some of them may bring terrible tragedy and destruction upon whole races of people. You can all think of a few examples. Nazism, of course, is the first one that comes to mind. This is the social format that was accepted by millions of people in one country. It didn't work out the way it was hoped. And it did bring terrible tragedy and destruction to a whole race of people. Yet none of these social experiments, be they successful or otherwise, can add substantially to the sum total of documented knowledge in the realm of human relationship.
Because none of these experiments have been designed from, or built upon, or even had reference to any foundation of universally accepted facts or even belief. In the branch of human knowledge and inquiry, which is usually known as the physical science, the area of mutual agreement has long since been investigated, determined, and documented. The principal body of scientific postulates, which has been accepted by scientists throughout the world, is subject to periodic review by men of science,
held in various countries for that specific purpose. It is now possible to obtain textbooks on the subject of physics in virtually every country on earth. These books are compiled by men of many nationalities, many races, and differing ethnic groups. Yet in each of these textbooks will be found the same fundamental laws, the same rules and methods of procedure, which have been accepted by every physicist in the world,
regardless of his race or of his social or political ideology. Thus, the textbooks document the area of mutual agreement, which is the foundation of the science. Upon this foundation, it is possible to test existing concepts and to build new theories or postulates from the observation of new phenomena. When new concepts are being created, differences of opinion are, of course, almost certain to occur.
Even though two or more physicists may have observed the same phenomena, they may create totally different opinions. There is no need for them to go to war over their differences of opinion, however. To devise specific tests which will indicate the relative merits of the two or more theories. Since the scientists had all accepted the postulates upon which the tests were based, they will all be equally bound by the results of those tests.
And so must accept those results. There has never been a war or even a major feud which came about as the result of any disagreement in the physical science. It is built upon a foundation of mutual agreement. Settling disputes and of resolving differences can always be found. On the other hand, the large and general defined or documented or means of determination can be formulated. It happens, therefore, that large numbers of people
and sometimes entire nations or races of people come to accept and to hold firmly to suppositions and beliefs which seem to be diametrically opposed to the suppositions and beliefs of others. Accepted means of resolving these differences, a constantly increasing friction may and usually does develop between the groups. This increasing friction eventually begins to overcome logic and reason. The tragedy and the futility of warfare lies in the fact
that it cannot determine the relative merits of the conflicting ideologies. It can only demonstrate the relative fighting abilities of the participants. No matter how violent or how prolonged the war and no matter who may be the victor, there will still have been no approach to a solution to the problems or the differences that brought about the fighting. In a few months or a few years, when the contenders have recovered somewhat from their wounds,
they will be ready to fight again. That has been better proven between the Arabs and the Israelis today. They have already fought three times and are preparing to fight again and haven't got a particle closer to a solution to their problems than they did at the beginning. When the contenders have recovered somewhat from their wounds, they will be ready to fight again. The winner usually learns nothing from such an encounter.
And if the loser learns anything, it will be only how to avoid the worst of his military errors. He can tolerate tragic nonsense. The sins of innocent persons may meet violent and untimely death and hundreds of years of patient human effort may be wiped out at the whim of one leader. To begin again, the endless upward... When weapons of absolute and total destruction come into being, however,
the weapons now being created must now ask him to my children and to the children of those who look to me for guidance, seeing the sun as they project and reason, seeing that there is an intermediate course which we must take, and we must take them soon. The first step is to create for the first time in the history of the foundation upon which a true social science can be built,
in exactly the same way that it was successfully done in the case of the physical science, first determining the area of the document as the foundation, treating the cause of our social ills, instead of merely attempting to cope with their more dangerous symptoms. We therefore make the following pro... The existing international organizations should be enlisted as the representatives of every major,
and insofar as may be possible, every minor nation, race, ideology, and philosophy... into the group. The delegates from each nation, race, or ethnic group shall be chosen by the group which they are to represent, which will permit the group to accept the findings of their delegates. The purpose of this Congress, when convened, will be simply to determine, through mutual discussion,
and to document through the minutes of the meeting, and rules or methods of procedure, which are found by all of the delegates, to be generally accepted into the social relationship of mankind. No attempt shall be made by any individual or any group to influence the thinking or to mold the opinion of any other individual or group, since the purpose of the Congress
is not to determine what the people of the world should think, but only to discover... ...discussion is found to be unacceptable by any delegate, shall immediately be dropped from consideration, and the next suggestion will be taken up... ...to be acceptable, and it is discarded because of the vote of a minority. A note will be made describing the discarded principle.
The delegate or group who found it to be unacceptable, and the reasons given, if any, although none need be given. The votes may prove helpful to any subsequent Congress, which might be held for the purpose of enlarging, updating, or amending the original document. In any event, they should certainly aid in the understanding of the thought patterns of the various groups.
A number of sample postulates will be prepared in advance of the first formal... ...have been considered. Each delegate shall have the right and the duty... ...by the assembly. Each suggestion shall have a direct bearing upon the relationship of man to his fellow man, and that relationship may be made more successful,
more productive, and more enduring. They shall be stated in the simplest possible terms, so that they may be readily undecepted or rejected by a vote of the delegate. These postulates which are accepted shall be recorded and documented as recognized factors in the social science. For the convenience and order in making the suggestions, they should be grouped into specific areas of human needs,
human desires, human relations, human relationships, and be conceived must be built upon the ground and not at some distance above it. Resolved that it is better that all people should have available to them a sufficient amount of nourishing food so that most of them should suffer constantly
from hunger and malnutrition. The proposal might seem to be so obvious as to be ridiculous. Yet the fact is that it has never been tested or documented. The proposals were made at a time when the assembly had been without food for some hours. Simple and basic suggestions of the proposals might be made
based upon the previously accepted tenets until the entire bill had been considered. The more simply the concept was expressed, the more probable its acceptance by the assembly, a fact which has long been forgotten by our politicians, diplomats, and even by most of our statesmen. As the delegates struggled with the unfamiliar task
of breaking down their ideas and beliefs into the simplest possible expressions, but as the number of building blocks and the foundation grew one by one, and as the delegates began the remarkable similarity in each other's thinking when reduced to fundamentals, the beginning postulate might be resolved
that it is better that man live in peace and close cooperation with his neighbor than that his works and his goods should be destroyed and he be maimed or killed in battle with his fellow man. The postulate might or might not be accepted, but if it were,
then other simple concepts leading to implementation might be considered. Such an approach may seem to be childishly oversimplified. Indeed, in building a social science we must begin at the beginning, and we have never yet done this.
In the building of the physical science be now a rules and methods of procedure which can be conceived by the delegates have been considered and voted upon. The resulting document shall be translated into all of the principal languages of the earth, and made available to all people
as the foundation document of the social science. It is indicated that the probable minimum number of delegates required for an acceptable congress will be of the order of one thousand. A larger number would be even better. The time required for the completion
of the primary document would be about one year. One should, however, conduct additional studies for the purpose of formulating more specific figures as to numbers, time, and distribution of the local location for the convention, the logistics of travel
and maintenance of the delegates, the linguistic problems, and so forth. The document should be publicized throughout the world to the agency of television, radio, newspapers, and so forth. It should be discussed in the United Nations Forum and by other international bodies. There should be constant emphasis
upon the simple fact that this is not an attempt to change the thinking of anyone in any way, and that all thinking is already the same. Nothing like it has ever been done in the world,
nothing like it has ever been attempted. Conventions of meetings of that other guy, he's going to try to persuade them that he's right, because everyone is working at arm's length, everyone is working against everyone else.
To do something that's never been done to determine and to document the things on which everyone already agrees. Which is different, as the same will wind up at least five times as long as the list in which people are different. And the more I travel in foreign countries,
the more I realize that the same hopes, the same fears, and in general the same beliefs. We don't always have the same political leaders, and sometimes our political leaders have different motivations. Many times the number of ways in which they are all the same
than there are ways in which they are different. I mentioned as a starting postulate that we have sufficient nourishing food available to them. And I mentioned that if that proposal were made when the delegates had been without food for a few hours, it's pretty certain they would all agree
to that postulate. Because that is one of the areas in which everyone is the same. We all get hungry just about the same number of times a day. And we're all just as unhappy if we don't have some way of appeasing that hunger.
If we don't have sugar, we don't have the environment in which we exist. And if we begin to list these things, we begin to find that there are many, many more things that draw people together than there are things that separate people.
Concentrate on this and bring this to the fore. You can find a totally different atmosphere developing. We're no longer talking about the things we disagree upon. We're talking about things we agree on. And when we find how large
these things are, then we will for the first time have a basis upon which a social science can actually be built. Someone coming to us from another race, from another planet, to outline a concept as simple as that. Especially when we have already
proved the merits of the system in the physical science. Science decades ago. And it now progresses five times as fast as the social or spiritual sciences to which we haven't applied it. I didn't find a person in any of the six countries in Europe
that had a single How could anyone object to change anyone's thinking? We aren't proposing to change anyone's actions. Not very many people would even if they had such a perverted mind that they would object to the
simple fact of people finding out what they did think. To top economists, to the average person on the street in lectures, it's because it's something that you will be hearing a lot more about in the future.
If you want to get your neighbors persuading him to read these if you happen to be wealthy enough to afford twenty or thirty cents instead of a dime, you won't have another chance down here until next time. We do have a limited number
of these stapled up. I'm going to have a little time for questions here now. The reason that this thing needs to be done by a government agency, and this is why I say I have brought this to the attention of the heads of a number of governments
of about ten million dollars. We've also done considerable work to back me. I'm not proposing to do this myself. I'm just saying that it's something that should be done by someone. We're only presenting the proposal ourselves.
I don't ask anyone for backing. I do have acquaintances who could do it as they chose. It should be done by a government to be done properly. It should be done by the United Nations as a matter of fact, but it is unlikely that it will be.
I've had affirmative answers to my question to everyone to whom I have presented this proposal to date, including... I have not asked anyone for financial backing because I don't propose to do it.
They're not going to be backing me. I'm simply proposing that if people in the world think that the worst thing that should be done is that we should decide that this is good. The only thing I'm proposing is that there will be no problem in doing that right now,
I might point out. At the present time, the United States government is spending more money to pay farmers not to grow food than they are paying for the food that is grown. Food production in this country because we don't have the means
of distributing that food. Today, if we can't distribute it, it breaks the people who raise it if they raise too much. ...for not saying something myself. ...at the edges and the end move the cars off the runway. ...are taking one something like
and they're going to have a drawing at 4 o'clock on that hand-knitted afghan. So if any of you women want to get in on that, you might just win that for a dollar. Tell you something about yourself
and I'll tell you something else. ...to make an inch
[01:51:32] Questions and closing discussion
around the world at the equator. The same as the ends of your body are the electrolytes. Think in words, don't think in sentences like you offer a prayer in words. The conditions that you would like them to respond to. If you have a portion
and you start thinking to those cells and that portion doesn't happen cut the leaves off and injure it. And the polygraph on the plant in the other room is a scientific thing. He understands the operation of a polygraph.
The test conducted with a polygraph is quite a distance down a corridor in another room. They put a cat in the room and then tossed a mouse in there. When the cat grabbed the mouse the plant reacted. Now Mr. Baxter tried to see
what the communication was. It is not electrical because they conducted the test with a plant in a Faraday cage and the plant responded in spite of the electrolytes. So they conducted the test with a plant inside.
Gamma radiation or gamma radiation phenomena. This medium that we used conducted these tests in one room, the plant in the other room, the city. There is apparently no limit
to the distance of this use of this medium of communication and the way it works. It is a magnetic function and by this mind function that lets them of your body while his wife is having a baby.
We didn't know what else to call it. Take off just before you were going to swat it. In this nature conduct some tests between yourselves, responses, UFOs or whatever their interest may be.
Golfers gather. And loving yourselves they do to make your body operate by a government activated by a universal mind. So I wanted to give you that little convention
featured in a number of places to be on the Condon committee I'll be here very shortly and we'll condition to the afternoon I still see many smiling faces known right now to undertake the task.
We live on the civilization of which we partake and once we understand all of that we will understand not only the task of building one of these before us none from any other source but in 1949
I started investigating the history of this planet of ours just from the viewpoint of cataclysms alone gigantic tremendous upheavals like Noah's flood for instance Now there were great men who started this
I didn't start it I'm a late comer I'm talking about Georges Cuvier who in the 1800s started the very science of cataclysmic geology The one before him was André Deluc
who held the chair in geology at the University of... These men all said that once every few thousand years the surface of our globe takes a revolution in an odd direction tremendous inundations occur which wipe out all civilization
and somehow life gets regenerated Cuvier said that the greatest challenge of these events is to explain why they occur and he did not have enough earth sciences at his command
to do so Geology has been relegated to more or less of a curiosity since that day You can't even find a university today but I'm looking forward to the day where it will be taught as an experimental course
in a university out here I hope it will be If you look at the data just the known, accepted data in the world of earth sciences it's appalling in its verification of these occurrences The Peresovka mammoth
in northern Siberia which was discovered about 1900 Now here is a beast weighing tons which was frozen fast enough so that when you defrost it you can't even when you defrost it
it will retain its fiber structure If you freeze it just too slowly the water content will have time to crystallize so that when you defrost it it will become a mass of goo and you can't cook it or eat it or anything
But this Peresovka mammoth was frozen so fast even its innermost lining was not able to freeze the whole thing That is to say every single cell in the universe on the surface
of the planet was frozen after the first period of its life and so to be able to freeze
the whole thing is very important it was not found in ice it was found in mud it was the mud surrounding the beast was frozen fast enough to preserve every they told him well mr sanderson if you want to freeze a beast like this you've got to freeze it in less than four hours you've got to lower its temperature at least 140 degrees all right there's that piece of evidence that this globe of ours has shifted time to go into that but that's the best ones is right out of the igy which says that the oceans all over the world rose suddenly 220 feet 7 000 years ago now we know there's only one way to do that
and that's to melt all of the ice caps if we melt melted all of antarctica and all of greenland today the oceans would definitely it's an interesting thing that the pyramid of kufu would be this which is the only pyramid which is not a tomb is the only one with a high water mark on it two hundred and some feet above sea level showing that it was built before the last inundation and that last inundation was indeed noah's flood and it occurred 6 500 years ago now what we have found to bring you the conclusion surface of our globe which is 60 miles thick rests on a 60 mile thick molten layer underneath once every few thousand years the ice caps in rotating off center from the axis of rotation pull the shell of the earth
around to where they go to the center of the earth and when they reach the center of the earth they to the equator and melt in the tarred heat new areas of the globe go to the polar areas and that's really how new ice captured years ago and that was the end by radiocarbon dating that was the end of the laurentian ice page it was the laurentian ice cap which tumbled through the equator and melted and brought to an end that era incidentally the description in genesis 1 2 and 3 of the creation is actually the description of that end of the laurentian ice and uh i incidentally wrote a little pamphlet on that a booklet called the adam and eve story which arthur godfrey got a hold of and did a show on and uh it became a book all over the world if you want to see one they're
on the other side of the rock there or you have the end of the laurentian ice age finding the trigger what does it take what is the cause of these events and this indeed was cuvier's challenge we had to first derive the inner energy structure of a rotating planet and do you realize that there's not one classical science taught in any university in the world which carries with that science the requirement of deriving the inner energy structure of a rotating planet and yet this had to be done to define the trigger of cataclysm in defining this energy structure we ran across the work of hannes alben the noted swedish physicist and we related his work towards
the inner energy structure of a energy structure of a planet and we found indeed that there is a power plant which we must call nature's power plant and i don't care whether it's an atom a molecule a planet a rotating planet a blue white star a galaxy a super galaxy a universe the neutron galaxy is a galaxy a super galaxy a universe a universe a universe a universe a universe sen squats that has to beará atoms are the same as the inner core in a planet are the same as the sphere inside the red stars of a galaxy are the same as the inner structure of a blue white star the outer core of a planet is the same as the binding energy of a of an atom it's the same as the sphere of red stars and the galaxy name of the circus we calculate that the radiation felt of our
our Sun must be on the 225th ring in deriving this energy structure we find that once every few thousand years the entire solar system goes through a galactic scale null zone a magnetic reversal if you will and when we hit this null zone the inner magnetohydrodynamic or the electrical and magnetic structure inside our planet is lowered to the extent that these molten layers inside our planet are free to allow and they're allowed to act as free liquids which the electrical and magnetic structure does not let them do normally the minute that layer 60 miles down acts as a free liquid and the shell
is lubricated actually beneath it and the ice caps are allowed to pull this shell around the interesting thing that we uncovered is that we bound together some of history some of prehistory and some of our time our era started after Noah's flood after the last shift of the shell of this earth 6,500 years ago those who survive are literally driven back into a Stone Age that's why we see the new Stone Age being dated 6,500 years ago that's why we see the old Stone age age dated 11 500 years ago these dates all stone age people were not stupid they were intelligent
they were intelligent people who survived the cataclysm and were driven into the necessity of living the stone age life to survive now the era we live in as i said has lasted 6 500 years before that it was five thousand years before that seven thousand before that ten thousand five hundred fourteen thousand seven hundred and fifty the five thousand year period before the period we live in now was the period in which the half-life of our universe our universe occurred the cataclysms came upon each other sequentially following one after the other in shorter periods of time to that half-life one before the five thousand was seven thousand one before the seven thousand was ten thousand
five hundred the one before the ten thousand five hundred was fourteen thousand seven it takes about five thousand years after one of these cataclysms for man to just struggle to get back on his feet again as a human being as a society we took about six thousand years look what's happened just in the past 100 years look at the just it was just a little bit over 200 years ago that man's attitude toward woman and childbirth was that this was the epitome of sin in her life and she had to bake herself in front of a fire following childbirth to rid herself of the sin of having had it look at the difference in man's attitude toward his fellow man in the past 50 years we're barely getting back on our feet as
a civilization now let's look at what we're doing technologically at the rate that we're getting in to space now it's only a matter of a short piece of time believe you mean before we'll be in space as commonly as we walk into the kitchen home than this planet here actually be a detriment to come back here this will be one of the stations to briefly stop by now if we look if we look at our two eras ago which lasted seven thousand years they had time but if we look at the one before that fourteen thousand seven hundred and fifty they had more than enough time and man then was just as much as he is now very much as he is now he had the intelligence he had the civilization make this scientific advance to get into space calendar
history of india the history of egypt of india like h.l basham will tell you that there is a five thousand year period when there is no written history from india there is no written history from greece every piece of history before that time is in the form of legend understand this now it's finally written down by the indian historian valnicki