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1969 October 12th Giant Rock Convention Art Aho 1969 November 22nd Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Fred Kimbal On Esp On How To Develop Yours And Use It 1970 January 24th Chan Thomas Repeat

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
• [34:32] Main address
• [01:45:31] Development of the main themes
• [02:37:19] Questions and closing discussion

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

We continue the speech by Art A. Hull at the Giant Rock Convention on Sunday, October 12th, 1969. I'm saying from actual experience, the universe we live in. We start by analyzing not things too distant from us. We start right where we are. We look at this physical body and analyze certain very basic things. We will take, for instance, a little simple analogy of this type and say that if I walked up to some man, I'd pick on a smaller man than I if I tried to do this, and grabbed his arms and held them, he could kick me.

Then, if I grabbed his legs also and held them, he could still squirm around. And if I then reached up and choked him, there would still be... there would still be a resistance possible. He could fight for quite a while before he would give up. But if, on the other hand, I was able to reach over here and stop the pulsation of his bloodstream, there would be absolutely no resistance. You might say, well, how is this important?

Well, in all of the devices that I have investigated, data available from these experiments and the device that I work with, there was a pulsation. It was similar to the pulsation of the bloodstream of man. During this pulsation, this device gathered energy from seemingly empty space. But in our studies, we recognize that this seemingly empty space is in motion. The atom bomb was developed on a constant of 186,000 miles per second.

This is seemingly erroneously called the speed of light. I say erroneously because approximately two years ago, an eclipse in our galaxy was observed And the life from this eclipse traveled across the galaxy at a much greater speed than 186,000 miles per second. So we are dealing, when we talk of this constant, with a motion of space. And by... by...

by... Our studies, especially in the flying saucer field, Van Tassel's studies, information he received, there is another constant which is a negative constant. And I'll try to be real brief in this and still say what I wish to say, that when we consider these constants in motion in space carrying this terrific potential

that we see in the explosion of the atom bomb on one side of this constant, that we are dealing with a very definitely high potential of energy. So if there were two opposite constants of this type running around in space at random, then we would have to say that there would be a great, great possibility of a short circuit

and all you'd see was a great big flash and a neutralization and no more universe. So we attempt to understand, then, another factor of the universe based on a certain logic in this manner, that if we observe a man out here controlling traffic at a street corner, we observe two basic things.

Number one, that this man is not in motion with the traffic. He is standing still. And number two, he must know what he is doing. He must have intelligence. So if we have these two terrific constants, in space, the atom bomb demonstrating a portion of this terrific potential, then we will add this other factor of stillness

of an era that is wisdom itself, the mind of the universe standing still everywhere, alive, it is everywhere at the same time, it is all over the universe, and all of the motion of even atomic structure, is controlled, or ahead of atomic structure, is controlled by this mind. This gives us a basis for telepathy

and even the Hieronymus experiment of measuring men on the moon, that we have an absolute conductor everywhere in the realm of mind. So then we come back to these energies and say again that these energies are in motion. We want to know that these energies are in motion. We want to know that these energies are in motion.

work with TV, radio, electronics, we work with a constant of 186,000 miles per second, and it is being recognized more and more that there is a negative side also. We'll say father, mother, positive, negative, whatever we wish to say, that these two energies are in rapid motion. Now let us put our pulsation back into the picture. Here is you and I standing here with our bloodstream pulsating. We start to run up this mountainside and it pulses harder. We need more energy to run up this mountainside. Let's bring it closer again in this manner, that science has looked into muscle structure for years and years. They have looked for tiny ratchets that might describe or might explain what is muscular motion, what is this thing that draws a muscle together

so that it can move. That we can move about. Well, they haven't found it regardless of how good a microscope you use for observing it. But if we analyze other things larger and recognize that everything has fields, our planet has a field, the solar system has fields, the sun has positive, negative fields, and so on, that everything is fields because energy itself is the structure of the atom, the atom is built of energy, so therefore the whole thing is a field. So then we would say that the muscular movement of us is actually an energy movement, electrical in a certain respect, but broader than electricity. It covers a broader band. But the compression and expansion or

relaxing of muscles then is actually an energy operation. Then this controller, which I talked about as the automation device, is actually an energy operation. And so, if we look at the energy device and the positively programmed device that we have up here is the controller of this energy unit. So we are an energy body running around in atomic energy space. We can feel the wind. We know what makes the windmill turn. We cannot feel this energy with our five senses, so we have to assume that they do exist because of observing these certain experiments and observations in a certain manner. So, in looking at this definite operation of our physical body, because we have to accept the fact that it does exist, we can move around, and if the pulsation of your bloodstream stops,

you go nowhere. You go absolutely nowhere. That perhaps the pulsation of this bloodstream is, in each one of its pulsations, absorbing the energy that is moving rapidly through it in a form of these energies. I feel sure of what I ran into in the science experiments of the Hendershot device, that this is what took place, that we created a living device in a bandwidth of electricity, which is narrower than a physical body, and that the nature of the next breakthrough in science will be through a better understanding of man himself, of all structure of life around him. And I think that this is a very important point, and I think that this is a very important point. And I might leave this thought with you, that in the changing time that we're involved in,

we're naturally going to be confused at times because change is hard to take. Man doesn't really like change. He likes to keep it as it is, on this certain level. This I understand. Don't bother me with this over here. But if we're going to be confused over time, we're going to be confused over time. If we cannot stop our planet from moving into a new experience, and if this is partly responsible for this rapid change and the disturbance that we have around us, then it is each one of our absolutely necessary obligation to ourselves to maintain our balance, rule our emotions to the point that we do not become involved in a disturbance,

in a disturbance around us. This doesn't say we hide in a hole or that we'll wait for somebody else to come and solve our problems, because as we go along, we become better equipped ourselves, because new understanding is coming to us as we go. We can recognize this if we look at 10-year, 15-year, 20-year cycles or time, that we're changing faster. We're understanding new things. Automation and program devices, that we are using today and accepting as fact,

25 years ago were not even considered. They were not even talked about. Now we are talking about even greater things. But with this change comes this condition of disturbance of people. So the thought that I want to leave is that we can help our own situation in this changing situation by maintaining control of our individual, individual emotions and not adding to the disturbance, but taking away from it.

I thank you for the opportunity of talking to you. The following is a speech by Fred Kimball at the Englewood Unit of Understanding on Saturday, November 22, 1969. Subject, ESP, how to develop yours and use it. It's a very wonderful insight into ESP and... and... and has displayed and shown his abilities here with animals

in this platform before. Fred, we welcome you and Godspeed. Thank you. This field of extra-extensive perception, when someone tells you they know all about it, you let me know and I want to go and study with them. It is a field that is so vast and so much is unknown. And what we do know seems

a lot, but really it isn't. I can tell you a little bit about the thing that I have been able to find out. First, extra-extensive perception seems more on the feminine quality. It responds to kindness, consideration and affection. I've tried every kind of experiment,

all kinds of diets, being a monk, all the rest. It works because it is needed. If you have a need, the ESP turns on. If you're out there, you can run your own life,

you don't want anyone but men, deity which we call God, extra-extensive perception, spirits, they're all... the doors are shut. So in proportion to your need is how it turns on. Now there's ways that you can turn it on yourself.

These sometimes disturb people. There's a book back there, New Life from an Old Land. The original Lord's Prayer was Oh My Holy Spirit, where you rigid turn to your own being. It was changed later to Our Father who art in heaven.

Which place and where? Heaven, when St. John's measured it, was 15 miles square. That tells you how many furlongs and all of that. So it was a special place. So we realize that there's a conflict in our subconscious minds regarding the religious survival of the human race,

as they were coming down through our ancestors, and turning to our own divine nature. The divine nature, in a sense, has two ways of functioning. Either it must come as an external consciousness, or it must become a Lo, I'm with you always and you know me not. And I am the Father,

the Father's in me, and the Father's in ye also. In other words, you have a real problem of making decisions. Are you speaking to an outside personality, or a part of the personality you're a part of? Are you alienated from it, or you're part of it?

Some of the things that shut the door to the higher self, or the intuitive nature, to me it's an inspirational consciousness, part of your being. When I was in this service, I had seven years, I was kind of a rebel,

and I didn't have a very good rate. When I got out I made a statement that no so-and-so was going to tell me what to do. I took up boxing, I took up professional wrestling, I did wrestle for 22 years, on a carnival, anybody thought they're tough,

come on in. I had one man one summer I couldn't beat, out of 180 matches, not in five minutes. But basically the decision, that we don't want to be told, unless we make an exception, our own divine nature.

I made no exception. This means if the deity itself stood here, it couldn't have helped me. I had a hard time during the depression, frankly. My money was very conspicuous with being absent. Yet there were people that had money, people that had jobs and had things, but I just didn't land in the right place

at the right time. Now how can you get this self? I have to go back and realize that when I said nobody was going to tell me, I made no exceptions. This meant no one. If this gentleman would come along and try to offer a little fatherly advice,

who are the so-and-so you are going to tell me? Pardon my frankness. I had made a decision that no one. So deity, my own consciousness, the brain, your intelligence, your intuition is forbidden entry also. Well if you want to be a young tough man, you could still say,

I want my divine nature, my inspirational mind, my intuition, the mind that sees over the horizon into the future, by dreams, by visions, by insight, by prompting me, by directing me in the right path, fights for the accident that didn't happen that might have.

The deity of whatever kind of consciousness that functioned that did not put me into the situation where an accident or an injury to myself or my property or my loved ones. Acknowledging that something is functioning, that it seems strange to me frankly that this great self would need encouragement. You would think it would be above and beyond that.

So there is a question whether it really needs it or the communicator that is between it and our conscious mind. Some people call this the subconscious. The analysts call it the unconscious because most people have not gone through extensive analysis to understand and be aware of it. To me, it's not unconscious.

It's just unconscious. It's always functioning. It's telling us by dreams. It's telling us by hunches. The person says, Well, I knew it was going to happen. Or I was just sure that this wasn't right. Or like I mentioned in my book,

the woman says to me, Well, I don't believe in any of that ESP. I go to church. Then she turns right around. Well, I don't feel that woman is sincere. I just don't feel right about her. And then she's talking. She doesn't believe in any ESP.

I just don't feel right around her. What is that? I mean, it's kind of a question what it is, really. To me, this self wants to help us. The fastest way that I have found, if you have a need, you can present to the subconscious mind that I have a need.

It's your duty as an instrument of the divine nature, God, or the universal consciousness, whichever way you wish to place it, to help me answer my need. But you have one obligation. When this need is answered,

you are supposed to say thanks. To who? To whatever deity of consciousness gave me that which I asked for. It seems that it's like a woman to me. It works for appreciation. If you want to get a woman to help you, you start finding fault and criticizing her,

telling her how horrible she is, and how you detest the sight of her, and she's going to work harder and harder. Not the women I am seeing. The psychic mind is like a woman. A woman is ears. She has a requirement in her life. Just as a dog has to be petted,

or the kitty has to be petted, but you tell her you like her, and you love her, and you appreciate her. For this she will work. And don't think it isn't cheap labor. In changing times a while back, they said that a woman to hire a woman,

a woman to do what a wife does, would cost, this was only a few months ago, it would cost $160, that was a week. And we don't count, well, marriage privileges. I don't know what word to use.

So, I mean, pardon me, but I don't know what to say. So, really realize that when you encourage a woman, and tell her that you appreciate, and if you really do, you'll find that she can do a lot for you. And if you're indifferent, well, she can be indifferent too.

The spiritual self functions that way. It's your pleasure, if you had a child, or even if you happen to be an uncle, like I have been, and you bring in all kinds of presents from all over the world. I was in the Breachery 24 years,

if you wonder how come I bring things. And this kid's happiness and pleasure, what I gave, gave me happiness. Can we conceive of deity, of a higher part of our own divine being, not being pleased when we're pleased with what it gives?

In other words, the acknowledgement that you're pleased, you're grateful, gives it the right to come back and help you again. So I present to man, I have a need. There's your duty to help me.

I think this is partially a part of our own deeper mind, the subconscious, that relays the right direction, or the right impression, or the right thing to our conscious mind. And it may be the relayer that does this that gets the thanks.

I don't know. I know it works, that's all. It works for other people. I had a man come to me, couldn't pay me, hasn't yet, and he wanted to get a job. I said,

wouldn't you concentrate on him? But I don't like my work. I don't want to work. And he had fixed in his mind he didn't want to work. So I said, well, you just don't want to.

I had a little girl. She's a, well, she works with men, as she says. And she calls me up. Her boyfriend doesn't have a job. And I said,

he doesn't want to work. He wants a vacation. Why don't you tell him to tell him? But he says he's going out for interviews. But he's looking for the perfect job, instead of taking one and looking for a better job. And I said,

well, I don't know. He said, well, he's taking one and looking for a better one. Sometimes we have to look like a psychologist says,

I don't have any work. And I said, but you've fixed in your mind that every summer you take a vacation. Well, that's right. Every summer he took a vacation.

But this particular summer, he divorced his wife, got another expensive one, and he couldn't afford to take a vacation. But I said, you didn't direct your mind. I said,

you've trained it and trained it and trained it. This man is well known. He has a book in the market. I don't think it's out here. But there's a book out. I said,

you've trained your mind that I don't have any work. I don't want to work in the summer. So it doesn't bring you any work. He says, there isn't any work

in therapy in the summer. So I have a week to get on the phone and call up a couple of other people. He says, we're swamped with work. And I have been too.

So it's a poor excuse. His own mind has shut the door. I can do the same thing. I tell my mind that I want to work. So the Lackawanna Humane Society had me up the other day.

So after I'm booked up, I want to take two in a day. Not because I'm getting exhausted. I want to take a quick nap to refresh me. Well,

then I'm called to be here. This is why you send out a call and no one shows up. Now this mind, when I walk out tonight, I say,

thanks. That's what I asked for. And I've got what I asked for. So you mustn't gripe. The man that says to me, well, I can't find

my job at all. And I say, but every time you've gone to work, oh, I wish I didn't have to work. I hate this job. I detest it.

So you have an accident. You get sick or they close down or they transfer. Something happens. Well, you don't have a job. Why can't you say,

well, I'm pleased and grateful. This job gives me a life and with children and money to indulge in my hobbies. I would appreciate a better one,

an easier one, one with more money, a chance to work. And I'd be pleased and grateful if this divine nature could please help me. And how do you talk to her?

Oh, I want to be sure to remember the man I met her tomorrow. Who did I talk to? I want to be sure to remember

the time my wife, she's sitting in the back of the book, who did I tell that I wanted to bring me a memory back?

The ever-present consciousness. Don't put wings on it that you can't ask this or that or it's going to fall in front with it. As far as I can find out, it doesn't.

It simply withdraws. You argue with it, get angry and it withdraws. It doesn't quarrel. I have never been able to get a quarrel out of it. It just doesn't do it.

It withdraws. It will not even work if someone becomes vile and hostile and hateful and all of this. Well, why should I try

to force my way to beat him down to prove something they don't want to accept it? It withdraws. It doesn't work. So realize

if you ever go to any psychic, even if you may not agree, if you say what I'm interested, they will bring more and more

and more. And the more criticism you have, the less and less and less. This is how it functions all through nature.

On one of my lectures is to tell about women that want to get married. Now, there is a question. I have been working

in counseling work for, I'm licensed by the city of Los Angeles as a counselor. I've had it for quite a few years.

I also have a masseur's license. I got this so you could put your hand. I've learned, I was a trainer for the Marine Corps

athletic teams and I've worked in Strangler Lewis and Jimmy Lawrence, almost all of the old champions when I was wrestling, fixing their necks,

their backs, their injuries, corrective work. I did travel with Arthur Ford as a healer through the spiritual camps.

I worked at it for quite a few years as a healer. Now, I try to change the consciousness of the person instead of

forcing an injection of super power to raise their conscience high enough to heal. But then you come down

and the woman comes up to you and this is typical of many. I wish I was dead. My husband's gone. I want to be with her. I'm interested

in metaphysics and I'd like to live a few more years but really, I wish I was dead. What are you going to do? This is typical. Ronnie Grabson,

that's the reason he quit. The same thing. So now you can invoke the energies and bring the healing powers in and you give them

a push and put them up but they'll walk away and so there's nothing for me. One woman says to me, well, I'm living

with my daughter and she, I had her but they can't pay my doctor's bill so I had to agree so I wish I was dead but I wish

you liked to grow more before I die. So what are you going to do when it comes to healing? These are the problems

that you have to face. Basically, in healing, if any of you wish to be and I assume there are some here, I know there's

at least three and there must be more, the technique that I used, I studied with quite a few different ones, Francis Rigardi,

I've seen him hold his hands until it looked like they were coming off of his fingers. He was Aleister Crowley's secretary.

He'd studied and worked. He had The Golden Dawn, The Middle Pillar, The Garden of Pomegranates

and The Art of True Healing. So he directed me to go to the book Psychic Healing by Ramesh Sharaka, a good book, to study it

when I asked him for more information. What I did was to go up in the highest mountain, 14,245 feet

and start praying at that high. Get a clear day when you don't hear any human being lay down on the ground, preferably,

not necessarily, and look at the air, look at the blue sky, not at the sun. And you can see the little white dots. Now the clearer the area,

the higher you go, the easier it is to see that. Well, one man said, that's the salt in your eyes. I said, well that salt

in my eyes sure did a lot of healing. I have sworn affidavits to people who have seen this.

So that salt in your eyes is sure a good thing. But you can see these little white dots that make certain movements.

Once you can see that flowing into you and flowing into the other person, they get a boost. But if you haven't changed the

consciousness, like taking the alcoholic away from the alcoholic or the dope away from the dope fiend, as soon as he gets

out, he's back for another shot. You start to concentrate on them. You say,

when did she say, I don't want a man. Never again will I get in this kind of a position. Never,

never again will I be married. Never again will I let a man do so and so.

She's fixed a decision in her mind. Then she says, why do I need married men, jerks, playboys,

and all these other things? And then you continue, it's carrying to being loyal and faithful.

And do you know I've had one woman so far in 26 years that didn't think she had done that. The rest didn't recognize that they have it.

Sometimes, never again will I work my fingers to the bone for none appreciating of so and so. And they've

set the course into their own mind. And then you've got to go back and try to find, I have found that normally

that you have a question. What if we believe in orthodox religion of getting on our knees? Our subconscious mind has been

trained by our ancestors that way. It knows you're serious. So you might be the best atheist in the world,

but if you get down on your knees, the subconscious is going to listen to you. If you don't want to do

that, you can use the occult or the magic and so on, is that you would write out what you want,

what you need, what you desire. And each night for nine nights you will read this and put it under your pillow and direct

your mind that I'm serious. The next night you burn that until it singes your fingers before you drop it.

Then you sit right down and write it again. You do this three times. And the first time that you

write it, your mind knows that you wouldn't burn your fingers until they get hot burning

the paper. And you wouldn't do this if you were not serious. Now this is one of the secrets of

the magic of how to reach the mind if you don't want to use prayer. If you're

in prayer, well it's almost the same thing. But I have a need. I have a bad trouble with

the lungs. Asked me just two days ago, would I have TB? I come from a TB inheritance.

And smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke. You say, you sure want to kill yourself,

don't you? But I mean, how are we going to work with this consciousness? We feed it certain things.

First you would feed your mind you want to live a long life, a happy life, a vigorous

life. And I didn't get married to 59, so I still want to remain young. So I get

what I ask for. But the other part is I say thanks. Well my father was a milkman 18 years

before I was born. He was a grouch. And I was young and I was said I had

to feed myself but I want to wake up happy. And you know the strange part is I don't go to

any need for coffee or tea. I don't have to ever have coffee to wake up or tea.

No matter what time of the day or night, two miles an hour on the dock he dives

60 feet down with his car. He says I walk about a mile and I

don't talk to anybody but my father. And I don't

talk to anybody but my father. And I don't talk

to anybody but my father. So I don't go to

the until you own your own soul, but first present, what do you want in a male? A man, a dinner bucket husband? A genius? We have a problem in our mind, and I can explain it from a man point, and it works easy, and it works from a female. As a boy, we have dreams. In this dream, I don't want to be too frank, to be crude here, we have a girl.

This girl is a heavenly angel. And we hunt always for that one girl, and every girl is it, until we've done with her. Then she doesn't fade away, we have another substitute. If we spend a lot of money, whining and taking her to the movies and all the rest, it isn't an S, it's a P. She's cost us. So usually, our mind has this type of a picture. We're looking for that princess that comes to us in our dreams. And we hunt and hunt the world over.

And you don't find her. You're in Japan, you're in China, you're in South America. I know, I know. So we have to realize, and this is a form that I don't ask people to believe, but that I believe, and I'll explain why. The divine nature as deity lives, we could say, as a unit of consciousness in a limited way as a conscious mind to evaluate it. Now this being, to function on this planet, must separate into two beings, male and female.

And what are we seeking? Well, how can you say it without talking frankly? Our religion background, religious background, has limited the feminine to only the male. Now a woman has prayed to a male deity, God, Jesus. She has accepted her highest self of the male self. Most males have rejected the feminine, if they don't want to be whistling at men in Hollywood, have rejected the female to be male. So they have rejected a part of the intuitive self.

So they have rejected a part of the intuitive self. So they have rejected a part of the intuitive nature, the inspirational nature, the divine nature. As Arthur Ford says, 70% of the male psychics are not males. And he's pretty good authority about things of this type. He's been in the field many years. They are, should we say, feminine. So basically, there's no acceptance of the female. When I was with Nanda Ford, and I told him that I wanted to merge my female self into the male self,

frankly, even he told me it couldn't be done. It would remain a male. As well, you might as well grow out and start being a homosexual and put it into words. We can. We can accept the fact that just as we accept a wife, that she's an individual, she's a person, she's a consciousness, as well as a body. We can accept these people as something to be interested in always.

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I've never got bored with mine up to now. So basically, the problem is that we accept our feminine nature. This means the intuitive, the inspirational, the ideal mind, and what girl asked a man walking by with a miniskirt isn't inspirational. I mean, after all. The feminine mind is an inspirational mind. We merge this self together. So the unity of the two higher selves that comes to us will come on in.

In the lower self, if we want to class it that way, the sperm did meet the egg of the feminine, yoga. They have met. In our conscious minds, we try not to be too much to the extreme one way or the other. Not too violent, not too submissive. And then the higher self, we try to bring these two high selves together. In your occult literature, they show you in the Zen, the man is chasing the ox.

Then he comes back riding on the ox. The guardians of the threshold are involved in this. But usually, if you understand enough, they don't stop you. You see those mastiffs in the temples in China. I was over in Beijing. I lived over there for almost two years. Part of my studies. And you find these two high selves are like you have a team.

Here is a stallion and here is a mare. And the two want. And you're a child trying to drive them. I was a teamster, too. One of my 30-some occupations. And you can't do very well. Suppose you actually merge them together. Then they're contented with each other and they work.

Merging both selves within yourself doubles your mental functioning capacity. Women quite frequently, they come to me. And they have the body of the female. And father wanted a boy. So they come in with a male mind. And I tell them, well, just teach your own mind that you have a right to live and function as a female. Don't have to be the man of the family.

Make all the decisions. Earn all of the living. That you can take the female role. But remember, you cannot push out that male consciousness. It will never go. So you can say, emotionally, I'm a female. Mentally, well, you can look at Playboy. I glanced at one.

I didn't buy it for December. It looked kind of nice. And you'll laugh. The women will read True Magazine and laugh at the jokes. Usually these are the women that have had a desire for a boy. They come in with a male mind. The problem is, will they accept the female self so they don't have to have hysterectomies? I want to be a man.

So they have to have female problems. Always. I haven't missed one yet. Always have this. Wish there was a man sometime. They shut the door. They've told themselves, I want to be a male. So the female self tries her best to pick up an infection if it's possible.

What else can it do but try to cooperate and bring some kind of a disturbance through? Well, mescalating. This is how the mind functions. So these are problems that you have when you come down to analyze and find out how to get the woman to find a man that she can like, that will like her. That she isn't looking for a symbolic Jesus. Or a man that I can respect. Which means that she wants a parent and I'm to be a child. Unfortunately, she has grown.

Unfortunately, for a sense, she has probably prayed at some time to a male and allowed a part of her own divine nature, male, to enter in her consciousness. So the man that she finds is a little bit boyish. He's full of enthusiasm. Want to have a motorbike like I have, or a motorhome like I have, or a camper, or have a boat. And he's the kind of a boy, if I could only get him to grow up. Once she gets him to grow up, he isn't worth a dime. His boss is a physio for you and for life. He'll probably be buried with a book.

So, I don't know, I don't think it's worth it. But anyway, that's a matter of opinion. So these are problems in that. Now, understanding that the fact, and this time I will be frank. Normally I avoid this subject very much. But once I merged in, the female self, I tell young fellows, remember, you better have money or get married.

You will never have another one of those dreams. Now pardon me for being frank. But once the divine nature comes in as a part of your own being to work with you, to work as a psychic, as a spiritual being, totally accepted, the feminine, the high self, there's no girl figure that comes on in to answer your needs again, ever. It stops. So these are problems for young people to remember

if they want to develop their unification of the divine nature so that it lives with you, works with you, in the God, walks with you, talks with you, and says it's your own. And yet this self is always as if it was a separate being. Religion has taught us we must turn it outside. How? Big chief come. Big chief tell you. I had a whole bands of Indians and all the rest of it.

Well, when we deny our self, either the self must externalize and come as someone else. Or it must cause someone else to come. I am a spiritualist. But our own divine nature will furnish us much of the information. Who it gets it from? Is that necessary to be known? Do we have to give a name? Most of the spiritual theologians don't wish to give names,

personalities, where they live. They will offer a message of information. So we can receive this information. I'm not trying to find fault with anyone. I'm a spiritualist. I say I am one. What more can I say? I do work as a medium. But basically our own divine nature will pick up from where and whom.

I couldn't limit it to where and whom. But it is a communicator. So if you have a ghost family right here, that ghost still must communicate to a part of my consciousness, the way Arthur Ford says. He says, well, there's four people involved in communication. My conscious mind talks to my subconscious mind. My subconscious talks to Dr. Fletcher.

Dr. Fletcher talks to his guy, and his guy talks to him. So these are the four. I say, well, couldn't we cut out some of this? Couldn't I just talk to my own communicator, direct? Well, one time I asked him, I says, is Dr. Fletcher really an actual person? He says, look, I studied psychology, too,

and he ducked out on me. He never did answer. I spent quite a little time studying with him, with many other people. In extracellular perception, getting into it, the system that I have used is to integrate your body-mind with your spiritual self. Normally, I study with Harold Sherman.

I mention this in my book when I study with him. There's one mistake in the book. Danny Bray was Daddy Bray. The girl was a college graduate with a PhD that put that down. She spelled it wrong. But basically, the people that you study, well, I stayed a long time in the Hawaiian Islands. I was a wrestling champion down there,

met quite a few. Every time I tried to find a kahuna, she was dead. I went down to Tahiti, and I asked the man that was the interpreter for the man that wrote Meet Me on a Bounty. And he told me that there were these type of people when he was a child.

They called them tahunas instead of kahunas. And he said that there's men now in the Boroboro or in Tahiti that he knew of or had heard of. And I asked him why. He says, when I was a boy, they were very dedicated. They studied herbs.

They could cure the ills that the people had. At that time, when the white men came in, and again, I'm up against a language problem, but nowadays it's not illegal to say, when they brought in the white man's diseases, venereal, they couldn't cure them.

Remember that our country couldn't cure them either. They had to give malaria, artificial fever, because venereal diseases raise no temperature. So it takes about so many hours of 104, it takes two hours of 104 to kill one disease, and it takes a little bit longer to kill the other one. When they had nothing,

it would raise a fever. So none of the herbs would work. So the people went to the white doctors for the things that the seamen brought into them and other travelers. They were very friendly and very promiscuous and way of life. They were a dying race,

and any fresh blood meant survival. So this is part of the reason why it isn't a matter of morals. It's a dying race. How could they keep alive? They needed fresh blood. They'd been interbred too long, too many centuries.

So they said that these people had found that the men couldn't cure white man's disease, so who wanted to go through a religious training of years of meditation and studying herbs when the people laughed at you and turned away from them? So the younger people didn't take it up. That was what he told me.

We stalked quite a long time, standing up. It cost me a couple of packs of cigarettes. So it was very interesting. So basically I've tried to find out about the various techniques. I've tried to find from the Indians how they develop.

Usually they develop by torture, hanging strips through your back or shoulder and hanging until you're exhausted, until you get into a position to see psychically. Now what is psychic ability? If you've ever had a dream, then you have seen a colorful picture.

If you see it in an awakened state, or if you've ever heard a voice talk in your dream, that's clairaudience. Now if you have this in your awakened state, or both of them, you're either a psychic or a psycho, which is where it functions. It depends how it's functioning with you.

So it's a problem, really. So the problem is to try to bring your sleep mind into your awakened state so that you don't have to go into a trance. If you want to stay awake, well, as Mr. Ford and many others, Fred Decker, many others say, I wouldn't accept the responsibility.

So I go to sleep. Me, tell you what to do. So in other words, do you dare to accept the responsibility? This is a problem. It is easy to teach ESP. As I say, I've only had one man in 26 years that didn't turn on anything in five lessons.

I had two good-looking girls. My wife was there, and she was quite a bit younger than now. And I had another young girl who was very attractive. And he sat and didn't see anything, think anything, feel anything. I have even a thought. He was a sick man.

I told him he ought to go to a dentist and have an X-ray, and he had two abscessed teeth. His back hurt, so he couldn't work. He got well, and I offered him his money back and said he didn't want it. And I still think he didn't come for his own benefit

because his wife made him. But that was my opinion. It may not be right, but that's what I'm sure of. That was the only person that I have ever had that didn't have extrasensory perception, that would show up. I went back to acne ROA this May.

Don Schuster is a psychologist. His name is on my book. He has his Ph.D. from USC, electronic engineer. And I run a class back there in a Methodist church. And I asked the minister, is it all right to bring a dog in?

He said yes. In the fourth lesson, I had everyone in the class read a dog. I had another lesson in, in denials, and I only had 17 out of about 12. And I come to ask them whether they'd be willing to be a medium

and talk to a spirit. I tend to do this the next lesson, the fourth lesson, in the group that's in Ronan Hills. And one woman was not Catholic, I might as well say, and she didn't want to participate in that. She didn't believe in communication.

But everyone else was in there. They all had a pickup. I was kind of amazed myself. In five lessons. In other words, there's no such thing, this is in a Methodist church and the other is in the Presbyterian church.

Now, if you want to go out to try to teach, take that on for a challenge. So you see, there's no such thing as it not being here. It's how to handle it. First you drive a couple of people out that are not going to succeed by telling them you have to turn to your own divine mind

instead of turning to Jesus. So one or two will walk out and they don't come. So you don't have any failures. That's how you do it. In other words, to turn to yourself. So anytime that you want things

and you want answers, you ask God, you ask your own being, come on, I need an answer. Not want an answer, I need an answer. Please tell me.

By a hunch, by an impression, by an intuition, by a dream, by a vision, in some method, not harmful to me, please inform me.

I need to know. Now it's very difficult for this self to not answer. As Manly Hall made a statement, he was out with an Indian healing medicine man, and he asked him, what happens when you fail? He says,

I never have. He says, what do you do and how do you do it? He says, well I go out and I build a little lean-to that didn't have any handy

and I get in there and I build a fire and I put water on me and I put a little water on the fire and I sweat, pardon my frankness, perspire, until I clean my body

and I rub myself until I'm clean. And I take a prejudice until I'm empty. Then I go out and I sit on a mountain facing to the east and the hill is going down.

And I wrap a blanket around myself if it's needed and I stick up my prayer flags. He says to you white man, this is a stick with some flags. My flags are feathers. These tell the animals when they flutter,

don't come near, there's a human here. And they tell the other Indians that I'm praying, meditating, don't come near me. And I never lay down, I sit down.

And I stay there and I keep asking and asking and asking until I'm half asleep and half awake like in a dream. But I'm not asleep

like in meditation. People who have been sitting in meditation know what I mean when you see your divine nature showing itself in various pictures.

And I see myself finding the herb that's needed or I find the medicine that's needed. Well, what happens when you don't find it? He says,

then the Great Spirit has nothing for that person. If the Great Spirit has it, I'll find it. Now this goes under the principle

of the mind's digestive time. If you have a big argument, three or five days later you'll have this splitting headache. If you kept

asking your mind to answer you for three days straight in a situation like that, in self-defense, the mind must answer. Not only does it want to,

but it must. It has its own occupation, its own affairs, its own things to do. In other words, you're dreaming all the time. It has its own affairs.

And a constant call is like saying, well, buy me yes, shut up, and I'll give you the answer. Only it wants to do it. But it does

function that way. It's got to. Remember Joseph Smith prayed three days and three nights to find out which was the right religion and was told

none of them were. They went out and dug up the records. At least some people believe they did. But I mean, it's a question. So this is one way

of getting answers. So if you ever get desperate, but if it bothers you too much emotionally, don't blame me for it because you're putting the mind

under great stress. It must answer. And when it does, be sure to say, thanks, so it will withdraw. Or it's allowed to stay dominating

you too much. So these are the ways that I know of that you can get answers. I find that if I just go out in the desert and climb up a little small

high mountain, well, there's, why? Because there's no one around. Here you can't help from being influenced. It's like being in a mob

and not being in a mob. I happened to belong to a merchant marine union that was communist. And I fought and fought and fought. And I still had to get up

for the communists or lose my seniority in the union right here in San Pedro. And they said, we don't know what's got into you. Well, I didn't want

to do it, but I had to. In other words, we can struggle with ourself and we can struggle in the environment. But this mind

that works for us, that struggles to get through, seems to want appreciation because it must come through the barrier of our thoughts, our ideas,

our rejections, our growth. We try to become self-sufficient, to be an adult, to answer problems, to answer things,

to do things. And so we try consciously to carry the burden. And how are we going to call this other mind in? Well, let God do it.

Like a person said when I was doing some healing, says, well, you didn't do it, God did it. I says, well, there's no use

in me coming back then. If God's going to do it all, there's no use in me spending years of time, effort, concentration,

working, and invoking and all of this. If God does it all, there's no use in my study that I made myself an instrument

for it to flow through. Whether you say I didn't do anything, well, there's no use in me being here. I haven't been back. But that's how some people say.

But you have to use, a part of you, a part flows out of you. If you want to read stories, you can read of Ramakrishna

where a woman touched him and he became violent, angry, and even the Lord Jesus, when he felt

virtue go out, even when he didn't know he was actually evil. You, you must

be a good human and you must be a good human

and a good human and a good human and a good

human and a good human and a good human doing their reading, and while they say you can only add a little tiny bit to your basic

intelligence, it has jumped way higher. Now, these are actual tests they've made, that the person under inspiration, it's like if you were really, well, greatly disturbed by an emergency, or being fell down in someone, I hope it never does, and you must lift something that your strength is not equal to. Under emergency, you have an emergency strength. The insane woman had reached out and pulled it and snapped a bob, it would take a thousand pounds to break, no flaws. It should have pulled every finger out, pulled the wrist out, pulled the elbow out, pulled

the shoulders, and how can a doctor explain it? She's insane. This is a poor answer. There's just some powers in our being. These powers function. I find that there's always anxiousness, to me it shows like a dog wagging its tail, give me something to do, give me something to do, I want to work, and it doesn't say I, it says we want to work.

Never does it speak as an individual. The man, the popper man. If you've never seen him, never comes out, I suggest you listen to him. He's a dowser. You can take a can of oil and hide it anywhere and he'll find it. He finds oil wells. He goes back east, where it's only 500 feet instead of 9,000 to find it. And he's a, well, the man, he has the money to prove it.

And he says that whenever he uses pen, and they never would say I, he has never been able, so I explained to him, he bought the book, he thought it was very good. He says, this is a good book. And never had he been able to get this divine self that speaks. He calls it canny for uncanny, because it's uncanny how it can tell you with a pendulum. Now, your divine nature has one problem. It wants to please, and you have to ask it to give me the answer that is correct, or it will try to give you what you want to hear.

I was reading up in Seattle a few years back, I've kind of ducked out ever since, and this girl wanted a boy. Oh, I want a boy. I'm sure I'm going to have a boy. So I picked up her font, and I said, you better have a boy. Well, a man in South Africa found 2,000 wells. He had more publicity from the four wells he found that, from the 2,000 that he found. Well, you ought to hear the publicity.

She had a perfect girl that I got out of that. So you see, you allow me to pick up a person's want instead of the reality of it. So you have to ask to give me the correct information, not just try to please. This is a problem in spiritualism. I've been really researching this. I've walked into Mr. Ford's church. There'd be about 120. There'd be about 30 people have a reading.

So you could die for a month. We never had anyone that's going to die. We never had anyone that's going to be sick. We never had anyone that's going to have any trouble. We never had anyone that's going to have bad times and money losses. Always you're going to be taken care of by the spirits. So I asked him. I was at Lillydale with him when he was working and all of that.

And he says, well, I don't read for those that are going to have trouble. I don't read their billet. And I'd ask others. I said, this is impossible. Somebody must be going to have some trouble. The spirits can't take care of everything. But basically, how can we get a divine nature to guide me, guide me, protect me, aid me, and help me? The ever-present being now.

I think by asking it and saying thanks. When you see something happen that you've wanted, you're led to a bargain or you're led to this. Like the other day, I wrote out a letter to write for one of these little space pens. Now, the difference between them, I'm not selling them. I don't have any of them to sell. But a space pen, normally a pen has 15 pounds of air pressure to push the ink down. But in space, you must write upside down.

So they put 50 pounds of pressure in this so it'll write upside down. And all of these, it doesn't miss at all. Although it costs $2. $2. $2. $2. $2. $2.

$2. $2. $2. $2. If you write to a store to buy them for $2, now you need to go to Fedco to see if they can get it for $1.5. And those are those little tiny things. Your divine nature doesn't have to be a great winged being coming in and going,

oh, I speak with a voice of authority. Please remember, it's ever-present consciousness. Little tiny trifling things, but they're important to you and your welfare. This is a thing to remember. Don't think, well, I must only ask to do this. It's ever-present. It's job, and it works to me. is to aid and help you in your life, to grow, to learn.

Like one of our last trainers said, and she was there with her husband when I was lecturing, she said, well, I think people should suffer to grow. I said, have you ever been on Skid Row? I said, I didn't find a great growth down there. So, I mean, it isn't necessarily so that I blame this again, the ideas that I grew up with as a child. I don't think we're the best, but this is a personal opinion.

And we read so much about carrying your burden, carrying your cross, I want to suffer horribly, I want to be like Jesus, which means I want to suffer horribly, how the communicator, the subconscious, translates it. And I think we're asking for troubles. Why couldn't we say, I'd like to be the healer like Jesus, or the teacher like Jesus, or like to be the spiritual presence, instead of saying, I would like to be like Jesus,

which means that our own mind has another story also connected to it, the suffering. So, when you direct your consciousness, think it over. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm telling you what I believe. That's what you come here to listen. I don't ask you necessarily to follow. I say, if you want to, why couldn't you say that I would like to be the healer,

the teacher, the aid and helper, but let's not copy all the suffering. You're asking for it, not because I say so, because how can it be otherwise? If I want to be like a prince, if I want to be a price-fighter, so you try to train like him. Jack Dempsey took Nuxerated Iron, and I ain't going to give him his punch. I took so much of it, I have brown specks in my eyes now,

from taking that when I was 17 years old, I was trying to be a price-fighter. So, we copy. The mind is some kind of copy also. We'll see what else I haven't got into before I get into the actual honest part of it. For the people that are interested, the way that I do this, I say, you don't really read the mind. You concentrate, let me see what the animal sees and let me feel what it feels. Translate, even though you have a translator, translate this into my conscious mind.

Now, most people can read their own animal, communicate to it. They learn to recognize the meows and there's the thought transfers. This is constant. And people don't realize, last night I worked in the Dillard Simpsons Church, Universal Mind Science Church in Long Beach, and we had animals. Next week, he's going to have people for me, because they've brought almost all the animals they have around into the church to read. And I worked today, as the gentleman present mentioned, for the Humane Society in La Granada.

So, we had two horses, another one come on in, and oh, just an assortment, a rabbit there, and a rat, a white rat, said it had been in school, and I swear it had, it's been in school. It was in the school where they were doing things. They said it had been around cats, they had many cats, but there was cats in there where they're working on it, where the rat was. So, I mean, you ask the question of your own mind as if, please tell me, if I was talking to the animal, please tell me now, and then you ask the question, but your own mind answers. Your own mind makes an identity as if it was a cat, as if it was a bird, as if it is a fish.

Well, we even had a turtle here one time, and the turtle said it was hot-billed. Oh, did anyone, was anyone here when they had the turtle? There was two or four. This turtle said it was hot-billed. It had been stolen from their home, and it took it six months to get back. Well, someone went back to my wife and said, a turtle doesn't have consciousness. Then how does it, how does it know enough to eat? How does it know enough to breathe?

How does it know enough to, well, he says, have instinct. What is instinct? If we had a little instinct, well, this is... This is the intuitive nature. I stop staring at a girl, and she turns around and looks at me, and I turn away in embarrassment. I mean, after all, what is instinct? In the jungle, she would sense, and you'd look, and there'd be a snake. So that made me lead man.

And you'd have, you'd sense, so you'd look and see. You'd always look to see him. So you'd say, thanks for telling me. I didn't know enough in those days to say thanks. But I always would assure you. So, I mean, it's just one of those things. That, not knowing. So I thought I had a jungle instinct.

I didn't know anything about extrasensory perception. This self wants to work. I think I've covered almost everything except the auras and that. To see auras. I have a little bit different approach to this than most people have. Normally you try to see the other person's aura. This is a light. Just as that light is radiating and this light is radiating, let them radiate now.

First realize, according to... According to science, you're equal to a hundred watt ball of the heat radiation you're sending out. And some people send out more. Depends on our food. What if they say that we eat, one quarter of the food goes to keep the body alive. Much of it goes for heat and the rest goes for neurosis. In Sweden, a fellow asked me when I was eating. He said, well, we don't eat like you Americans do.

You eat because you like the food. Well, I was in Panama. Out in the jungle. And a cook was a real good cook. And I went back for seconds. And the scientist jumped all over me and says, you eat because you like the food. And I says to the cook there, he says, she isn't speaking for a thing for your cooking. It's true, we do.

Some of us enjoy our food. But to do this, we teach our mind in our prayers to enjoy our food. And I haven't dropped in auras. I'm trying to offer something. The man that had the stomach trouble said, someone back here had a question. I could probably have you raise your arm of how it was done. I presented the fact.

Well, I could have them raise their hand if they want to. I presented the fact through the soul, the subconscious mind, the being of him, that the food that he had to eat, there was nothing wrong with it. Our ancestors had survived on this food and lived on it. He had no right to reject it. As a boy, he was one of these, I don't like this because I don't like this. I don't like that. He would eat this and give him some money if he would eat.

And his mind, the stomach mind, would still function the same way. And I presented to it in a sense that this is good food. There's a question about food here. I don't want to get away from auras. And the question about food. I bleed very strongly in vegetarianism for a long time. But I had a deer tell me one time that was killed. This woman that's running the post office in Montezuma County.

She had TB. Her husband had no money. And he shot a deer out of season. And I talked to this deer. And he says that it had been killed by a man. I only had his head. It had been dug up where he buried it. And he says, I'm pleased that I served a useful purpose.

It said it had bred with two females. And it knew there was going to be no, well, miscarriages, other things. And so it fulfilled. It says, I regretted growing so young. I'm pleased that I served a useful purpose. That it was very happy about it. That it had contributed not just to flies and ants, but to humanity. And it was very happy about it.

So when I came down, there were seven of them. One of my charts was drawn by the son of one of the men that was there. The charts are in my book. And I started telling them. One looked at the other. And I thought, they must think I'm some kind of a nut. So this woman had TB. Her husband had spent all his money.

Later they had the meat that a man that ran the grocery store that gave him credit. But meat was too high. And he had to pay too high for it to give him credit. He says, we ate that deer to the last neck bone. They took it into a mine. The irks in mine had 11,700 feet high. And it was cold enough up in the mine so the meat did not spoil. So this is what the animal told me.

It was very happy. Then you read about the Donner Party and you read about others where the people are all praying to God for survival. And a deer walks up and stands and lets itself be murdered in plain English. A big buck with horns. And the fellow is nervous. They can't shoot. They're starved. And it just stands there making a sacrifice.

Sometimes you wonder. So when I say a prayer, the prayer is that what I eat, that it may digest and assimilate and live in me. The tomato becomes a part of my body. A part of me. That it has this life as a part of my life. The grass that it ate, did it die? Then how did the animal live? And that I should have a part of this grass as a part of the protein of this animal.

That that animal would be pleased if it looked to see that's me contributing. And as a man says in India, well an animal has a soul. It loves its offspring. I say well in your country it's different. The animals eat about half of the grain that you raise. And they drop dead. And the flies breed on them. And the humans don't cover their droppings either.

And the flies get on it. And the fly has to eat. And they crawl on your food. It helps you to die faster. So you can reincarnate faster. So they serve a useful purpose. In our country they chew a lot of grass, a lot of leaves, a lot of hay. And they condense it in a protein.

So we need less food. So they contribute. If they have a soul, they are reincarnated. So we didn't kill anything. I said, can you kill a soul? Is it abortion, murder? Is a soul killable? He changed the subject.

So when we say a prayer to, in a sense, to our own mind, digest and assimilate my food. And build health and strength and fight to be sure you want to live that long happy life. And you don't want to have wings that fly around in heaven before you do this. Be sure you don't have the fantasy of the woman that has, oh, if I only died I could get to heaven. I could have wings and fly. Even now I'd like to have a pair of wings so you could fly around.

Be nice. So, I mean, these fantasies remain in our mind. But we forget our childhood training. This is suicide. As I've told people, never once in my childhood at any time was I ever told the joy of the companionship of a woman. Never once have I ever told of the happiness of a body, of the joy of food, of the joy of life here.

All I ever heard. It wasn't just Baptists. Real high boilers, I think. Always about what a wonderful place heaven was and about how bad it was here. And fire and brimstone was always going to come down. I'd listen to that and listen to it and listen to it. And maybe I'd become a little atheist.

I suppose I did. That's normal. But I mean, all this is such a wonderful place. But never was there any wonder here. And I tell myself, I want to like life. I want to enjoy life. I want to be happy here. And it works.

We have to tell our mind, I want to live. The mind may have, if you've had a religious training, what a wonderful place heaven is. You're going to pet lions and lambs. You're going to be in a wonderful place. Oh, what a wonderful place it's going to be. Then where is there any call to stay here? Why should the mind try to heal your body and keep you here

when it's like living in Skid Row and across the street is a nice mansion, pretty wife, nice food. And you're going to live and sleep on the sidewalk, get kicked around, thrown in the drunk tank. You say, what a darn fool I am. Cut my throat and I'll be in paradise. This is how the subconscious puts these things together.

And to understand this, these are what you spend thousands of dollars to understand in your psychoanalysis. And it is expensive. To understand why we have suicidal urges. Well, if I don't like it, I wish I was dead. Would it be better if I was dead? Why will it be better?

Where are we going to go to fly around? I mean, these are questions that you decide if you want your mind to heal your body. And digest this food and assimilate it. Like a doctor says, I never cured a patient. I only prescribed the medicine. God does a healer. So he didn't have too big an ego.

So this is a way of training yourself. It works. There's no faith. I don't believe in that. Faith, I was a professional wrestler, as I said, off and on for 22 years. And you'd be amazed that the fellas come in to beat me, try to knock my teeth out.

They didn't. And they were sure they were going to do it. And I looked at some of those fellas, as big as a house. But when they got down, they couldn't turn over. They hadn't gone through the ground training. They had worked on their feet. So faith is not always the answer.

There's principles that the mind works with. Now the aura, I said I would go into that. I direct my mind, my soul, my spirit, my consciousness. I have no name for it. Because if I put a name, I put a limitation. If I say the subconscious, I put some being hiding in a tunnel. If I say divine being, I may have put a deity.

I mean, if you want to see your own soul, it takes a little time. You have to do one thing. It is necessary that you promise that you will not commit suicide. This means in any way. You don't drive like the cop says, or I suppose I should say policeman.

He says a man had $300 worth of golf clubs and $10 worth of tires on his Cadillac, and he's doing 75 to 90 miles an hour. Either chain smoking, or doing things that are quite dangerous. Driving fantastically careless, depending on a deity to take care of him. You have to promise that I'll try to fulfill this life

as long as this body is capable of living and functioning and doing as a proper instrument. Then you visualize outside of yourself a spiritual consciousness. Don't put a face on it, but make it a personality. Remember in about 1934,

I believe it is, in Esquire, they published all the different faces of Jesus. You'd be amazed at the differences of the opinion of what the personality looked like until they finally arrived at the typical Arab face type, which most of the time the men, the G.I.s are amazed

because they walk hand in hand with men over in that country. Women are not considered to be elevated in their estimation. So you see yourself outside of yourself, then see it inside of you. And you say, show me the divine nature,

show me the communicative, show me the beloved, show me the spiritual self. And you keep on invoking and trying to visualize it. You cannot visualize it until it's worth to show itself. Once it moves in and shows itself, do not do this if you want to be a trance medium. Because you can never be possessed

by any consciousness after this, but your own divine self. So I want you to be sure, if you ever wish to go into a trance and have some other consciousness possess you, don't do this. Once you move this self in,

you can walk into all the bar rooms, insane asylums I've been in to tell them this world can get wild and all of that. It's quite a choice when you have to make a decision, a person can live or they have to die and remain insane. It takes a lot of responsibility.

Once you move this self in, you see it inside of yourself, as a living ghost. Unfortunately, you can't see it very long because you discover that your ego is a little small being in a part of a greater being.

So you can't hold it very long. It may take a week, it may take two. But if you wish to see this self, if you're right-handed, prefer you put it on your left, to see it outside first and then inside yourself.

But you must promise that you are not going to kill this self. Now this doesn't mean that you've got to be, oh pardon me, I don't have any reflection against older women, but I mean being over careful,

over cautious, over afraid. There's always a mystery to males that ladies may not understand that a woman has lived so long she's almost dying and scared to death a strange man may come in the house

and they bolt all the doors and then leave the window open. I mean, yes, this is true. They have chains on the doors and then open the window. I mean, if I was a burglar,

I sure wouldn't go and knock the door down with a crowbar. I would come through that open window with nothing but a screen. So I don't, I'm not trying to cast any reflections.

I like females very much. Once I accepted my own female nature, I found that I liked women. For as long as I was a man, well they were, oh well, all your troubles come from a woman. If it wasn't for women,

you wouldn't have them. You wouldn't have been born. So blame the woman. This is typical male way. But basically, once you accept this self in you, then the, lo,

I'm with you always and you know me not, is with you. Or in St. John's, I leave a comforter with you. This self becomes a comforter. Now, in my own experience,

never do I become lonely. But don't misunderstand me. You can get hungry for the opposite sex, male or female. It doesn't answer that. But you don't become lonely in the sense

that you're lonely anymore. So this is one technique. But the other one is that you don't become lonely in the sense that you're lonely anymore. You don't become lonely

in the sense that you're lonely anymore. You don't become lonely in the sense that you're lonely anymore. This is another technique. These are all in my book if you're serious.

I don't want to eat up too much time because I'm not full full of it. But I'm trying to offer you what I've seen work with many people, with myself,

with others. You can step into the advanced work. The advanced work is where you extend your arms and you visualize yourself like a living

Georgia Cross all burning with fire. Then you look right back through the pineal gland of yourself until you see

the crucified one. And it won't take you any longer until you realize that the divine nature is ever-present but ever-absent. Because we're a little bit

afraid that it might not exactly approve our, shall I say, affairs or even our thoughts. As they say,

if you fake it it's as bad as doing and it remains who doesn't have thoughts? This self can't condemn. It doesn't. So it can't forgive.

That's not the translation. If you're interested come back and look at the translation New Light from the Lower Land. Know my fault

in the first century text. There's none of this deity leave me not father don't leave me wrong mother don't leave I mean

it isn't the way it was originally. So this self as you visualize it you move it down into yourself until you can see it in you.

This is more of an occult way of doing it. There's another way for the atheist who doesn't want to work with any there's many ways

but you hang your light from the top of your head and have this light shining out in front and see it

shining out in back. I have an answer to that but you can see it shining right out of the back

of you also. I think this is the electric magnetic field that holds this body

the life principle of the body but that's only my opinion I don't know but I've seen it and others

can see it. It's no strange gift it's a matter of working at it and don't to give up

on it. It may take a week it may take one night it may take a little bit longer.

Now those of you that want to see previous lives the fastest method I have found to see previous lives

is to listen carefully to what I'm going to tell you. Sit down in front of a mirror

and show me a transfiguration a change of my face in lives that I have lived before. You set a candle

back if you prefer a bit to the left but not necessarily and no other light in the room. Be sure no other human is around

and that you can speak verbally without someone thinking they have to send you off to the booby

hatch. And like once I was in Camarillo working I said I'm at the hospital.

So the one law when you do this is not in seeing it. The law

is that when you have shown me please move it back out of focus.

I spent three months living as an ant as an insect as a butterfly as a snake and it gets

so bored to me or did I eat in Panama you eat scorpions in your food you eat

ants in your food and you eat a chicken that's eaten a scorpion and eaten an ant

and it becomes a part of your body placed under enough magnification by our own soul

you have a memory of being everything. The meteorite comes through the air into our

consciousness we're everything. So we're everything. So whether this is actually a

body memory or a soul memory I don't honestly know. When you see your memories of

your own previous lives are they really your own? If you're a part of

all consciousness are you picking up someone else? I would appreciate your face

were changed right in front of you break your eyes and it's back to you again.

But ask it please translate so you know when you were

and where you were or you'll see various faces and don't

be shocked if you past that then you'll see the other lives but it brings you a shocker to see if you're adult enough to face the fact that you were not always really white mentally and physically i saw myself as a witch doctor that sure wasn't too audible but you'll find you've done a lot of things too so i mean these are how ways of how you can do it you ask to bring it in and then please move it out but be sure that you're going to be in a routine long enough so that you can sit for a week or two weeks and not going to have anyone interrupt you don't play with it be serious about then when it

does say thanks i appreciate you trying to whatever consciousness did it but your own being is out of focus and it can move it in i had it so i really a crocodile go to bite me i jump out of the bed before so what's wrong with you you're going crazy and you're open you'll be wide awake as soon as you open your eyes you'll be wide awake you'll be wide open you'll be wide awake you're quiet. In comes a picture. Unfortunately, you go through the death times, and they're not very pleasant. So realize when you do this, it isn't some little fun thing. You are really going to experience, not see it with detachment, or that happened to me. You really wake up and look. You really love it. So there's quite a problem when you get into

these things. But if you really want to, I've told you how. You can hurt and spend a lot of time if you don't want to. John Cox, did you get in? I guess he's not here. He's a man that is very good in regression. Many people can regress you so you see these and bring you back up. Since they've had control of you, you don't have the disturbance caused by it because you haven't called it in yourself. And so when it's moved back out, it stays out. But this is how I have done. And I've had people say they've gone all the way back until they saw themselves back amongst the primates. I have. It took years. There's a woman in this group that I did a reading for 19 years ago. And

I saw her as a caveman. In a cave and stacking up rocks. Inside of a cave. Now this person lived and was barren. In this life she'd had trouble in this mid-region. She also has hiked down to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and all over rocks. Still likes to climb around rocks. Also this person, the pictures show similar between England and the continent. It took me many years before they started putting down oil wells off of Holland and they found the North Sea was all 100,000 years ago was all dry land. As near as I could estimate, I figured that she was about 75,000 years ago living as a caveman.

19 years ago. no proof of this for years and years and years. Only the last four or five years that they put down the oil wells and found that this was all dry land. They figured it was about 100,000 years ago. I estimated that it was about 75,000 years back where she had lived as a caveman. Now, I don't know if there was any cavemen there at that time. Maybe it was less. But the place that the picture had was then dry land. So it takes you 18 years or so to find out more that are close to that, to find out that a picture that you've seen in another person is verifiable. One man was an engineer in South America putting down

those big stones. In this life, he's a helicopter designer in the war and made a fortune out of it. He used to pay me so much I was embarrassed to work for him because I didn't feel I'd earned it. He says, I haven't. He really did. But even then, you'd think, well, if I had a million, I had it. No, you don't. You have a million. So these are things there. Always, I've ducked it twice, you'd project my color into the other person's color. Move my color to that person so that your own mind, your own soul adds your color and brightens it up. It paints the colors on them. When you look to see it first, look just past the person's head. When you look past the head, there's a little distortion.

This looks like heat waves on a street, like water. Just a distortion close to the head. It means they put some color in it. Now, translate what this color is. Now, Edgar Cayce taught that you rub the first finger like this, rub the first finger, and you develop the ability to see all of this. I developed it by rubbing the little finger. Now, one woman, Ann Corning, I think is the way she pronounces her name, she's at 57th Street, and in her group, a woman said she'd followed Cayce,

and after nine months of rubbing, she could now see auras. Frankly, I don't recall how long I had this strange habit. I didn't know who I'd acquired or how I'd acquired, but it worked, of rubbing a finger. So I decided if I rubbed a little finger and he rubbed the occupation finger, and this is your temper figure, well, I'd rub them all so I'd see everything. So I rubbed the character, the occupation, the spiritual, the sexual, I put a ring on it. Now, the other one, your temper.

So then you direct yourself, put the color into the other person, paint the colors on them. So this means that your own mind, your own soul, doesn't show you 50% of the auras. It shows you auras added to it. Well, it was a question of ethics. Should you do this? Well, if a girl smiles, I like her look, and she smiles, and I smile, we've added something to each other.

Or if one of you men here, or one of you women, or the gentleman, here, he doesn't let his temper go very often according to his aura, he gets more than mad, I get more than mad, we're adding two double auras right away. So we're always doing this. We say we mustn't integrate, we mustn't become as if we're someone else, onward, grins, and soldiers. We've done this round, round, round, we're the Greek club. We've always made identities, all the time.

I like him, I hate him, I don't use that word at all, or I detest him. In other words, we're always making, when we make an identity, why can't we allow our own divine nature, or the artist of our soul, to paint the colors around someone else, and let it make an identification for the purposes of aiding, helping. In other words, when you do a reading, you ask for many years, then help me to help this person. Grant me the wisdom, the knowledge, the understanding, the insight,

that which I need to aid and help this person. May his own conscience present it, that my conscience may tell me. These invocations of, come on, now, I need it now, conscious time. You ask and ask until the divine nature, it always wants to. As I said, to me it looks like it has a desire to be the healer and teacher. So rubbing your fingers, projecting my colors. This is all in my book of how to do this, how to see arms, all in these things.

My book is just a textbook of my class work, not a story book. There's no stories about me except to teach something. And it works. Most people can learn to see, about three-quarters of the class of 20 can learn to see arms in five lessons. The third lesson they usually see. There's always a die-hard that doesn't see. On extrasensory perception, which I'm supposed to talk about,

I work with the emotional nature. Now, most of them say that you concentrate, you sit in meditation, until your body is numb. Well, your body is non-existent in meditation. I want my body to live as a part. I believe, which may be wrong, but I believe that the divine nature, I will go and prepare a place for you. Does that necessarily have to be in the spirit world?

I thought it was already prepared. It may be that the divine nature, as the unity of consciousness, in the army and in the Marine Corps, I was an advanced party man, advanced man. You go out first. You go out first, like a scout. You find the camp. You establish it. Then the main body comes in.

Now, there's questions of ethics. If I ask any one of you here, I believe that about 99% of you would misinform me. If I ask you your age, you would tell me the age your soul entered the body, the incarnate in consciousness, not the body's age. Science now says it takes 62 to 67 days for sperm to come to complete maturity. The egg in mother takes longer. Now, body is a year old when you're born. When you're a psychic, allow yourself that one year of leeway of mistake in your readings,

because you're asking for what age? True age, or the false age, or the soul age? So usually you try to ask the mind of the man the body age, and he'll tell you his body age incorrectly. He doesn't count that. Now, who builds this body? Does mother build it? It's nice to think so.

She furnishes the ingredients. But the part of the consciousness that I believe is the higher self moves in and supervises building this body. And when it is ready, the divine nature moves in. Then our conscious ego says, my body, my body. And the beauty says, your body, I build it, I heal it, I repair it. You can't grow one hair. You can't make an itch, and you can't stop an itch. This being says it's its body.

What is this being? It is a divine being, but it's forgot because I think partially religion has found fault with our desires for the opposite sex. So it's a baser animal. I think it's a divine part of consciousness. And that this being was a part of our high self, of the divine being that moved down, took over the supervised mobility, of building this body. And it prepared a place for our consciousness and our soul to enter.

And then we look at it and say, thanks. I appreciate you healing my cuts and scratches and bruises. What else does it ever get? Most of the time it's like saying, I borrow your car. I run it without gas. I run it into the ditch. I bang it and kick it around. Turn it back.

You fix it up. You pay all the bills. I walk out and say, my car. What do you think of my car? Look at my car. I didn't earn it. I didn't build it. I didn't repair it.

All I did is use it and call it mine. When does a body mind ever get thanked for healing this body? Give me a good night's rest. I want to wake up full of pep, full of zest for life, full of energy, full of vitality. Absorb the oxygen. Move the astral partly out of this body to recharge the generator of the spiritual nature while I sleep from the atmosphere, these little white dots that you see. When do we direct it to do these things?

So these are what's called greater life to yourself. If you want to read that, you'd have to read about Muldoon in Astral Projects and tell her about seeing people asleep and seeing the astral self partly out, recharging itself like a battery being recharged. It moves partly out of the body. Many psychics see this. But these again are going in deeper metaphysics than I should in a class. But working with the body mind, digest my food.

I was back in New Jersey a long time. I'd wrestled Barry Leone. I told him for a year to come out. He had become a rich man. I told him for a year that he'd do good out here. And I had just got uneaten on a full stomach. And I says, we'll let you to substitute. When you get injured, throw up.

You'll get sick. So I talked to my stomach and I says, I need this money. I was going through my analytic work with . And it's expensive. And I need this money. And it's costing a lot. So I don't know how I did it. But anyway, I didn't get sick.

And we were flying in all directions in the match. So I mean, the body mind does things. When does it ever receive one bit of gratitude? When does it ever say thanks? So this thing to me is an intelligence. It can digest your food. It can heal a cut. It can stop bleeding.

It can do many things. Our conscious mind can. And yet never, as a rule amongst many, does it ever even have a gratitude of thanks. It's only an animal. Is it? There's a question about this. I think it's a part of our consciousness, a part of the total spiritual being who has become identified with the animal until it thinks it's an animal.

So these are some of the ways of how you can work with yourself if you wish to. Now, my time is running down. And I've got to get in to do some personal readings. I cannot read your full life in every way. But some of you, I don't like to have you come up here on the platform. Someone that is willing for me to take a look and to describe your aura. Oh yes, he says he would like to have a little break. I know these seats.

Arthur Ford was the best. He could get out and say, now this is a house of God. But after you sit there, listen to me long enough, those chairs will be the devil. So he must think. During the break, I'll walk back. If anybody does want to look at it. And then I'll be right back as soon as you're ready. Let's not make it too long.

I've got work to do. These questions here, normally I just have the people stick their hands up. Will I make my next expected trip next May? Most of my work is trying to tell people how to bring about in their life what they want. To find the record of their life. Father quarrel, mother quarrel. I have to have a man, so I'll have a quarrel. Women that have divorces.

They have combined two people together. So I have not worked as much. There are so many spiritualists who are much better on future sight than I am. They specialize in answering things of this type. I'll try to see if I can answer it. But my specialty is not telling people what fate has. But what you can do if you want to live and feed your mind certain things. Because of what?

To survive the war? Things of that type. That have gone to victim. They do. Those I've worked with. But they're telling their mind to protect me, to guide me. That I have reasons. Usually they're not.

They're asking someone, some higher being to do it. They don't invite their own mind to put them in a certain place in a certain way to keep them protected. So what do I mean? The subconscious mind that works out the destiny so that it has not worked out the details yet. So apparently the person will have to do more in working out the details. So I don't have it marked. As I say, I'm not a fate reader. If I was, I'd be out of business.

Because in my analytic work, if I can see. Now there's a woman on the Santa Monica Pier who's excellent. She, I've had people come to me. She's even told them the day they had the accident and they had it. She's excellent. I, if I could see that accident happen, would go back into the past of that person's mind to find out why this accident is marked and can it be changed.

Is it possible to alter this? And I'm not finding fault with her. Each person develops a certain ability. You find that in Thich Nhat Hanh. That each person has certain talents and certain abilities. My ability when I see a disturbance for a person is to try to inform him how not to look in a different field. So frankly, people are much better at future things than I am.

As I say, when I look to see, I look into the destiny mind of this person in regards to the trip. It is possible, but it isn't worked out too strong. So it's going to take more effort on the conscious mind's part to build this about. In other words, it's not fixed by fate. That is, and it says there's no danger as far as having a danger. Apparently they wanted to use something besides an automobile on that trip.

Will I get married again? There, I think, there I have a yes to this as if it's possible. I'll try to explain a little bit about that. I have, this person would have to change their mind a little bit. I was studying with Joseph Murphy, a woman who was,

well, should we say past the 40 steps and past the thin stage, wanted to know where she could find the perfect man. And he told us she'd have to become the perfect woman, which is kind of a little bit late to, kind of fit that picture, say. Many times they say, hold a visual image.

This helps, but it isn't the answer. If you've ever seen a hungry man in prison with a vision of a girl, but he may spend the rest of his life there and he doesn't get her. So if you're interested in human beings and nature, you understand what I'm talking about without me being any frantic. Now her mind says,

the one that wrote this says, I can, but I don't know if I want one. I'm trying to, between 12 and 18 years ago, this person left in the mind, I still have yes. Will I get married again?

With a question mark. Left in her mind, and I wanted, I checked to be sure that it was a teenager, that's only about 19 and just had a divorce. And it says I'm an adult. And they've left in the mind that they didn't know if they wanted to get married again. This is what I just ended up talking about,

of, do you really want to? Do you want to make the adjustments? Do you want to be a man's servant? What is it I always keep in my mind is, the accountant, she used to work with one thing, and now she has to work with all of them.

In other words, do you want to take up, her mind says, yes, you want to take up dish washing and all of that. I mean, these are things that are questions that you try to find out. That's what I try to find out.

How strong is it? And are you willing to, what is the aim? What do you want? Who do you want? Are you willing to come out? Are you willing to compromise a little bit? The person that gets you may have to compromise with what he wants.

The problem is, again, what women do, is they sit down in front of a mirror, and they forget that a man has eyes, and he likes to see, and their ears are like to hear. And they sit down,

and they find fault with themselves. After five, ten, fifteen, twenty years, I'm not pretty, I'm not sweet, I could throw something at him.

They find fault with themselves, not realizing, but normally a male must be agreeable to live with a woman. So he must start to agree with her, finding fault with her, because she finds fault with herself. I'm not slim enough, or I look horrible,

or my hair is a mess. She finds fault. And how can a man be agreeable without finding fault with her? So try to at least see yourself, from a man's point of view, and say, well, you may look pretty good,

but to yourself, you may not. So, it's quite different from how the man sees himself. Don't be so critical of yourself as females. In the meantime, you have to agree with yourself,

being quite clear, not so critical of you. How can he be different? He's going to be agreeable, if you want to live with a woman, you're going to agree with her, and she finds nothing to do with all this. You see,

there's a problem about being a director or a leader. When we make a decision that we're going to save the world, if we read history, you read about the holy men that have been killed, you read about Gandhi of India, who was preaching peace, and more people died in India,

according to what they told me over there, than all the time that England was over there, and all that England ever killed. That is peace. And when you read Martin Luther King, and how many have died, and how many more will die, these are peace marches.

And when you realize that these people, the Kennedys that are coming along and preaching peace, and they end up in forests and being killed, there's a terrible burden. You're going out in front to be shot at, mentally,

physically, spiritually. You're carrying a terrific burden. Sometimes I wonder, I tried to do this, I lost everything I had, everything but one gun. So if we are going to really save the world,

realize that you're putting yourself up as a target for spiritual forces, because you are going to be a deity, a God, a consciousness, a Jesus. And down through the history, there's never been enough powers to protect them.

Why not, instead of saving the world, try to do it in a smaller group? This is what I had to do, and it was my decision. I want to use my ability to find gold or money to put up a clinic where I'd have psychics,

psychiatrists, psychologists, doctors. Casey tried it too. I lived for Mr. Kahn and his son, the man that had the scissors stuck in his eye that Casey saved, the doctors that did the work and adjusted.

I had him adjust me. I know these groups. And what happened there? In other words, there's a real problem in this. Excuse me. So I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying it's a terrific burden

when you set out to really take the world on. It's a terrific burden. And unfortunately, the people that try this do run into serious trouble. And I'd hate to see the person take on this kind of a problem.

In other words, couldn't you work a little smaller? In other words, I went to the woman who was 97 years old, she could read without glasses. She did. I couldn't pronounce the words

and she couldn't. It was in the Bible that she was reading. It was half dark and she was reading and she didn't have anything on, any of these new modern glasses. She'd been a slave. And she says,

when you have your flock, these things will straighten out. And she sure was good. So sometimes if this person could have their own groups to work with, I think they could have it much happier. But if you really want to go down this path, then you keep calling your divine mind,

put me into the place where there's lots of danger, and lots of troubles, and lots of death, and lots of violence, because that is where peace dwells. The Jesuses, the Mohammedans,

the spiritual Gandhis, the Martin Luther Kings, always with violence and killing. This is strange, but this is what it attracts. Maybe it's the dark forces, but the fact is that it's something that I would like to say

be careful. I didn't say not do it. Be careful. Realize that there's things in this situation. As I said, I lost everything, homes, money, everything, in trying to do.

So I finally had to come back down to working with smaller groups instead of working. I was out to save all the animals, to get on TV to save all the animals. You run into nothing but trouble on the TVs. I could name a few of them. They're not too nice.

How about your cows? I know coming over here. I never even dare to speak about it. But the cows stand in, pardon me, their own manure right out here in Dairyland, drive through it in the soaking wet land.

And no one has even yet dared to even speak about this, of how our cows, for the milk of this city, and where they live and how they stand. And there hasn't been one humane society that even dares to mention it on the air.

The humane society offered to put me on the air to talk about it. The New York City squashed it immediately. They wouldn't even allow me to talk to the convention. The San Francisco said, we'd like to have you on the air. We'd like to have you on the air

to work for animals. And the New York branch wouldn't even allow me to appear before that. So you see, we're really up against problems when we're going to help the world. This would be only to help

a few cows from sleeping in their own manure. Drive through Dairyland in the wet weather and take a look and see what I'm seeing. Don't leave me. Go out and be a skeptic

and see. And that's the city's milk. I have attended several meetings. Oh wait, I've got the wrong one. I've got the wrong one. This is one for the other group. This is,

some of these were brought to the other survey. Will my older brother's life change for the better? I mean, especially financially and personally and whole life.

Boy, that's longer than you can answer here. The first question you would ask this person is how much money did father have and how much

did mother have prior to his conception and during the time he's being carried?

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This is the question you would ask this person. How much money did father have and how much did mother have prior to his conception and during the time

he's being carried? This is the question you would ask this person. This means that our mind makes an identity most of the time if you have

a racial background where you know your parents and your grandparents and your ancestors. I'm told that they do here. I'm quite sure

I'm right about it. And where the parents, there's a consistent racial background in the inheritance, what you call responsible people in a way,

the mind makes an identity of lack. And when it makes this identity, it tries to follow along. And it's not

going to go into heaven. He's got to be in a poor man's heaven. I've got to go along. What am I going to do? A rich man? A man in Skid Row where he left

a million dollars. Is he going to stay in Skid Row with the rest of them and raise Skid Row? Is he going to move in the Beverly Hills? And he can't move

his friends up there or is he going to stay? What's he going to do? There's a change in consciousness. This person's consciousness hasn't really changed. I don't see him bad

but I don't think he's learned how to change his consciousness to teach his mind what I need not to my identity with my environment with my parents

and their lack. Over and over if you people want to have money teach your mind to look back and find out how much

did mother have and how much did father have? And am I being loyal to them and keeping myself restricted more than necessarily?

And I should be your mind should be loyal to you. Your duty is to be loyal to you. But until it's

called to attention it's like my grammar. At fourteen I'm in the factories. At seventeen I'm in the jungles in Panama. At twenty

I'm in China. How would I know until someone calls my attention to it? So how will the subconscious make an adjustment or a change

until it's called to attention to make the change? Father had no money? Mother had no money? I shouldn't have any. How am I going to go to the same world?

I'm going to be a capitalist with a whole lot of rich people and he's down there with all of his old cronies with the hard work and a few farmers. We wouldn't have

to be nice and keep us in this environment. And we have to teach it that this is a problem for me to face in the afterlife. That I have a need now

and I must not be tied to their lack. The person it would take me too long to hunt up the person and I have to find out what kind of conflict

the mind is copying. In other words where was there a problem in the environment? Shall I ever This one is written in the

Shall I ever marry again? with a question mark in the middle of the room with a question mark and it looks like a type of

a pencil like I was mentioned a while ago. I don't think it is. It doesn't look that way. I have a definite yes on that one. The problem is

how to direct your mind to usually you have to teach your mind that I came in under a problem. I came in to have

a comic picture fulfilled. Mother had a problem father had a problem they had a problem with their unity within their own self.

I have a double load of temper. My father was violent. My mother was married because she had a violent temper. She could beat all the kids in school.

Then they beat me because I had a temper. That's parents for you. Why didn't they take the whip and beat themselves? They were responsible. So when you come

into the problems about things like this about marrying you realize that our karma sometimes puts us into a situation.

You have to teach your mind that you have had your dark darkness soul. I've had my heartache. I've had my problem. I have fulfilled

that for you. I have been teaching for years. You can't pay your karmic debt twice. It can't be done. You have one

heartache one divorce one time when you get hurt by a man. Practically every woman I've ordained as a minister

has had a heartache. And if they've outgrown hating men for it they're fit to be a counselor and therapist and minister

and mediums. This has been a requirement that everyone has come to me has fit. I have questions that once you've

fulfilled this then you're just repeating. It's like if I ask you how many birthdays have you had? Most of the people here were misinforming.

You only had one. The rest are celebrating that one day. You can only have one heartache one divorce one hurt.

The rest are just repeats. It doesn't pay any debts. And we have to teach the mind that I've fulfilled my debt.

I've been loyal to the problems I inherited. I've been loyal to the things I've done. There's no requirement to lead me

and direct me. And don't think this is accidental. When you sit down and look at a nice looking woman who has a nice looking body

the kind any man would want she's had five alcoholic husbands. Every one of those men thought they wanted her physically and mentally

and everyone chose a bottle. You wonder what kind of a this happened. You wonder what kind of a psychic is she?

Or another woman is she? These are psychic things. The forces are psychic. They're planned. But you can teach

your mind once you've had them that I've had it. I don't want it. It doesn't pay any attention about want. It's like telling

mom I don't want to eat something. You're going to eat it. I don't want to dress today. You're going to dress.

I don't want to go to school. You're going to school. But once you've fulfilled it, present to it

most of the time, that you have fulfilled the heartache, the problem that's been marked for you.

If you've outgrown hate, I didn't say this person had. Don't get me wrong. If you've outgrown the

resentment hostility toward the man. If the woman says, well I've never my father was

no good and my husband was no good and you have fulfilled something. So there's no requirement

of the soul, the divine nature, to have to fulfill it again. It's been done. You'd say it

knows better. Maybe it does, but it acts on the subconscious mind's memories, the inheritance memories, the environmental

problems that are in your childhood. And this is a mind that you have to deal with to change these.

It's a mind that's drawn to attention over and over that you have fulfilled.

My cup is full. I say, it's full. You can't put any more in it. But I want

to give you some more. I say, you can't. It's full. Even the Bible says my cup

runneth over. It's full. Each individual has many different ways to live.

I say, I'm a man of the world. I'm a man

of the universe. I'm a man of the universe. I'm

a man of the universe. I'm a man of the

universe. I'm a man of the universe. I'm a man

of the universe. I I believe in my

mind. If you could turn your head a little bit as a baby, the tears run sideways. I'm partly helpless. If you're standing up, the tears would run down this way. You're two years old, three years old, quiet. You have troubles in front of you. If it's deep down in the nose, you know that there's a digestive problem, pancreas problem, not handling the body, where the blackheads are.

Each one in here is baby sickness. Under the nose is a health problem. I'll see a red dot. I like the lady back here that's sitting looking at me. She has a fleck of red on her shoulder, meaning arthritis. It kind of shows up from the father's side of the inheritance. I don't know if she has it or not, but it shows up there, probably in the back. So, I mean, these things you see as a flecks of color.

So each one has these colors. I'll read the rest of it. Which are physical aura, emotional aura, mental aura, for each has its own explanation. Yes, it depends. If you want to see, you'd be amazed if you could go down to a group of merchant seamen and look at the aura. It's a dark and dull, and they wear dark, dull clothes. And when you get in a metaphysical group and see all these purple lights and spiritual

lights and meditation lights, and I tell my male men that want to get married, go to a metaphysical group. That woman is not going to try to take you for all your money. She's not going to carry that kind of karma with her. She'll make a good wife. And men say, I can't find a woman anywhere. I say, I got them in my classes. You ought to come to the classes.

I've seen perfect women. I've done readings for them. They're not out. They want a man. They want to be married. They're not looking to see how much money they can get. Or how long they can get alimony for years. Well, I've been with you for a year.

You understand my life. So we have many colors of auras that show up. Many colors. But basically, I've used it so that basically people say, well, I think you'd be morbid and discouraged. I was when I first went to a hot springs to work with a people. First they said, don't touch me. And then they expect you to cure them.

And usually you, a sore bruise is a place. And when a bird comes to heal a bruise, it also heals the condition that's there. So actually, you make miniature bruises. You hurt them. And if you can't hurt them, you give them a nice businessman's massage with a little alcohol and it doesn't do a bit of good, except make them feel good. So, I mean, usually, after I got my masseuse license here, I found out in Los Angeles County, it's against the law to work on a woman, another woman that needed it the most.

How to answer the explanation of the auras, as I say, I usually don't go out. Last night, I looked at a man in the church where I'm lecturing next Friday with humans, as of tonight. And reading humans and so on, which I haven't even got to yet. And you just don't have time enough, ever, in this work. That's your problem, Bob. Remember, if you follow this work, you will never have a moment of peace. You'll always be busy.

You'll never get bored. You'll never learn to play cards. You'll never have any time for it. You'll always be busy and love it all the time. But you just don't ever get caught up. What is the cause of the present-day promiscuity among young people? There's a very interesting story. And I couldn't give you the date, because I don't know what it is.

But it's a very interesting story. It's a very interesting story. It's a very interesting story. It's a very interesting story. It's a very interesting story. There's a very interesting story, and I couldn't give you the date, because I didn't look at it. I believe it would be about September or October in the magazine National Observer, about our

sexual life and this. First the dark ages has pushed the people where sex was something bad and violent. And then they've gone to the opposite extreme, where they've studied techniques. and you worry about each other. But then finally, from the way they describe it in this book, when you get around, that the kids now find sex

doesn't even have a thrill. They have to go and take dope. And yet down through the centuries, men have looked, especially in this country, our background people, as this has been one of the greatest things in life.

I think it is. But there has to be much more taught. Here it's taught as breeding. Now, in an animal or a boy, basically you ask any male, it's a physical release that's needed. As you grow spiritually, you want companionship.

You go to the mountains. It wouldn't be nice to have a woman to share it. Doesn't that look beautiful with the sun and the clouds? Or isn't that rainbow beautiful? Or isn't this tree beautiful? You want to share. It isn't only body.

It's companionship. It's love. It's affection. I try to tell people sometimes that the women, especially on a ship with black people, we had another name for them.

They all hated us. They were their cooks. I'm doing yogi exercises and a man comes over to me. He's a Norwegian or Swede. I don't recall which now because we didn't break it down in the nationalities.

And he wondered, what exercise could he do because his bowels hadn't moved for four days? Well, there's a motion that moves your bowels that you use that will help him.

And I says, I don't know. Mine haven't, for two. When people hate you and they cook with hate in it, these are proven,

they're not theories, when a woman likes you and loves you and loves cooking for you, the same prayer that will make a plant grow one third. And these have been proven.

In fact, the Lord has proved it. I've worked for him. People have done it with corn. They've done it with wheat. They've done it with various things. When you talk to the plant and love it and talk to it

with this blessings and kindness, it grows. One third. These have been tried by atheists and church people, believers and non-believers.

And where they curse it and hate it, it's withered and died. The woman that loves cooking for you, you can overeat and stuff yourself, I do for years,

in your stomach, digest it. When you say, I wish that would kill us so and so, you find him with ulcers and troubles. Please realize

that you're doing a valuable work when you're just being a housewife and cooking a meal for the man if you like him. So, I mean,

in a sense, there's a lot more of what I'm trying to say. than just the physical enjoyment of the person sexually. The younger people, heaven God,

they're trying. They're becoming interested. The Magi of Elisha was going to give them full enlightenment. If you took this pill of corn and alleri,

you'd have full enlightenment. And they're still trying. So, basically, they're against the old order. And so, to me, it's a question

of myself with animals. I say that an animal should be disciplined. The human as well as the animal. I've been bitten by dogs.

I've been bitten by dogs. Spoiled bats. By humans in the same sense. That they have not people that have grown up

without any discipline. So, they have no discipline. A psychiatrist that I know has turned around to a man. He says,

what is a mark of a man? And they look at him with their mouth open. He says, how many women you can get pregnant? How many affairs

you can have? Or making yourself get up and go down to an unpleasant job and come back home and be nice and decent to your wife who's trying to do

an unpleasant job washing dishes and taking care of the babies and all the rest of it. It isn't always the nicest and easiest things to do

even though she's chosen that. That's a mark of a man or a woman. So, again, when you come back to promiscuousness,

to me, it's a lot of things. They're looking for something. I hunted all over the world looking for something. I couldn't find it.

Where shall a man or where did the God hide your destiny? In yourself where you'll never seek. You'll always seek outside. So, I looked

for heaven in a woman in many races. It wasn't there. In other words, we're looking for a dream girl, a dream creature,

a deity. And they're human beings and you can't find it. You find it in yourself and you can find it in the other person, in the other woman.

These people haven't gone too far in metaphysics yet. In other words, they're still thinking they will find it in another person. In other words,

your dream girl is that girl. Then when you have her, she's just another human being. It may be the next girl. I went through

the same thing except it was more expensive. Now it's free. But some people, they make it legal when they have to have divorces but they're still looking

for their own divine nature. And you have to find it in you. Once you accept the male in you, the female in you, it's easy

to like women. I mean, it's easy. But before that, it's a battle. Can you get something without paying to? It's a battle.

It's a different thing ultimately. And once you learn and identify your own divine nature, this battle ceases. What is the, wait a minute,

what is the, I can't read it, A-T-H-E-R, the book. I'm sorry, I'm not able to make sense out of what this means.

I don't think I have a college education. I teach doctors, psychiatrists. I've had people like all of us have been raised in all kinds

of doctors and psychiatrists studying with me but I don't have a degree. I don't have a degree of that kind. And something

about the book and I don't understand your question. If the person wouldn't mind asking me, A-T-H-E-R, I don't understand

what this means. Huh? Oh, Psychic Human, Ram, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I couldn't

pick it up for, Ram Sharaka has about 18 books on yogi and it's Psychic Human, it's a little

blank book for $3. And it's really good but you have to read it very slow and very carefully. It's very thoughtful because this book

is written just like ordinary written material and you'll read it over and miss it and it tells you everything from voice

and it covers many things. Many things in it. It's a good book. One of the very top men, I don't think he'd object to me using his name,

Francis Rigotti who was Israel Rigotti, the top Hollywood psychiatrist, is a man that I studied with who recommended

this book to me. I let my doctor friend have one and it became his immediate life. I had to go get another one.

So don't let your friend borrow it because he has some healing or you gave it to him. You only thought you lent it to him. This is a problem

about books. I want to run a couple more but I do have an early one tomorrow morning. I have bought a home in Idlewild.

If anyone ever wants to contact me in a few months from now when I'm not around here, just drop a line. You couldn't remember

the box number but just generally living in Idlewild and it would get to me. I bought a home up there.

I'm going to move up there in time. It's in the clouds and there's lots of work and activity. I'll be working here and other

places but I prefer to have a home. I lived on the ocean for years and so I'm going to move to the mountains for

part time. It has no groundwork or land. If you ever know anyone that wants a home with all

the right vibrations, I'm going to put in a plug. We have an extra three bedroom home with a swimming

pool in Southgate and it has nothing but happiness in it. It's been quite a problem to me. I decided to

give it up really. I also have a mobile home here in Gardena that I work in because my

license is there. The other is in a residential district. So I've tried my

best. It's 20 minutes past 10 and I do have to go on but is there anyone that's got a

brilliant question they need to ask? Let me try to fire three or four if I can in a hurry before we

call it quits. Stick your hand up. A question. Does anybody have a question that they

really need to know? Yes, if I can answer it. Your ear shows blue, a

very receptive. It looks to me like the divine nature would try to help you. The thyroid shows it's

down a little bit which means that your body energy has dropped a little bit more than

it should. Apparently somewhere in the past the body's had a drop off, almost a

breakdown. These things show. The arthritis looks like it's lessened. You're driving yourself and

making yourself go and the interest in life has helped your body to lessen some of the

disturbances down in the small of the back. What is your question? Many times

people, who have passed on, usually want to come back. I've already answered this in my book.

If anyone has this, the book is worth it. For over a year I offered money back.

Take it home and read it for ten days. Don't let me autograph it. Send it

back and I'll give you money back. What was fairer than that? I tell them

how to move the divine nature in so they will not. If they want to be mediums they

mustn't do this. In most of these cases I have to hunt with them personally.

I'm not talking for work. I can't handle all the work I have now.

I do it but I have to postpone people for a week or two. You see

I'm involved where I have to hunt the person up, look into the person, get the

picture of the person, ask the soul how come they allow someone else to run and

dominate them, where they've done this, where did this person want to help humanity

at one time. This is part of the problem. I had a friend who wanted

to be a great helper, a great healer. So he's driving down a crash into him.

So he whacks his car, pushes him over to the next lane to get out

of the way. He says why did I have an accident? I said because you

want to help humanity and you saved that man's life. So you got your

car smashed up. The next day he went down, the door was put back on,

everything was taken care of, the insurance took care of everything, all prearranged and preordered

that he would be there, the right car that would move over. His reflexes

were even faster I think sometimes than mine or equal to him. I've had years of

training athletically to move myself so that he was put in a position to

save this man's life. So he kind of decided it was going a little

bit too far when you have to get your car smashed up to do good.

He didn't know if he wanted to do quite that much good. So you see you

run into problems. This person had humanity ideas and once they have these things well

they're open to spirits to come on in. And sometimes they're not always considerate. This is why

I move the divine soul in because it isn't very inconsiderate. It is very considerate of the person.

Question here. Could you all hear the question? Her mother has inner visions and things.

I've talked to blind men. Our science says that five years after you're blind that

you don't see anymore in your dreams. This is not true. I've gone and investigated

it and asked. It isn't true. You do. Besides you see if she only knew how and

this might take hours of explaining to her that the subconscious mind, the dream mind,

the vision mind will dig up pictures out of the past, pictures out of the

present and show you glimpse into the spiritual world of humans that have never been on

this earth as our environment, our civilization knows them. I have seen these people myself and

many others see these. Some of them are people that have lived. Some are people that

have never been embodied as we see them. They might be out of some other dimension or

some other universe. I don't know the answer. But you can see all of

these. But knowing how to turn the mind on that you are amusing me or

you are showing me these things but of what purpose? What can I do with this?

Not just show me these things but how can I use it? What can I do

with this? You're showing me this but what for? You must have a reason.

Why are you showing me these things? If you know how to ask enough

questions or finally simply say I don't want to be sick.

The mind pays no attention to those little I don't want things. We have to work

with it much deeper. That I have a need for peaceful sleep. She could

use a monotone and tell her mind listen to this. You know what a

monotone is? It hums all night long. Or something else to divert her.

In other words to me her mind says I'm bored when I listen. So this

is this mind. The mind doesn't want to fade. She never

wanted to become senile. She left in her mind that I rather be

dead than become senile and helpless. And so her mind wants to keep active. And so

she's left out of the cause for this activity in her own mind. She said she wanted

to grow some time back. 58 or 60. Would you know what was happening

in her life at 58 and 60 that she left a desire to grow? Picking up

teaching. Or that would mean learning to grow. To do that. So she's

left this desire. So the mind wants to work. That's what I say.

It wags its tail at you and says give me something to do.

Give me something to do. I want to work. Or it says we want to

work. So the mind would need to be diverted. I couldn't answer that instantly.

You'd have to talk about it and see what the picture is. What is

the mind saying? What is it communicating? I spend a few thousand dollars,

over three thousand dollars, just to learn to analyze the symbols of

dreams alone. What does a dream mean? She's seeing more visions than dreams.

So you have to try to tell her. Why are you afraid that she can't stand

the boredom that you have to keep her so occupied with these pictures that are like

fantasies because she can't do anything with it? Why are you annoying her or bothering her?

Do you see what I mean? There's many questions that have to be asked. Why do

you insist and persist in annoying her when she's not in a position? And you

can't say go somewhere else because the soul can't go somewhere else. There'd be a reason, but

I'd have to hunt longer than I have now to find that reason. I mean, I have to direct

my conscience to find all the various reasons until it's like I'm angry. And you say, what

are you angry about? Well, I tell you this, but I still have some more.

So you look at another one and finally you'd say, well, now are you angry at

mother? I'd say, well, yes. Well, do I represent mother? I'd say, well, you

have a child. This is men with their wives. I had a man

alcoholic slapping his wife around. So I asked the psychiatrist, this is

an old home. They've been here too. I says, did you ever work

with him before he's five years old? He said, no. So he came in

to see me and I tore into him. I says, let's see now, your father slapped

mother, didn't he? Yes. Your father got drunk? Yes. And the little boy's

mother slapped you? Oh, yes. She used to give him a good paddling. And the

little boy would like to paddle mother, wouldn't he? Of course. Who

wouldn't? So now you paddle your wife, she's a mother. Monkey see, monkey do.

Where do you see any intelligence? This is a college man with a top education, an accountant,

and so on. He quit drinking. He hasn't drank for two and a half to three years.

In other words, he'd say, well, it isn't worth getting drunk over. In other

words, I don't have to have a drink to slap my wife around. My father slapped mother,

so every time the wife displeased me, I'd go take a few drinks and slap her around. Where is

there any that he's simply copying a little boy's desire to slap mama, and so

you'd slap your wife who's a mother? I mean, to me, it's so simple,

but yet this is the way humans function. Well, look, it's almost 10.30,

and I've tried my best to give it. I'm sorry I can't do a lot more reading.

I'll give as much as I can. Thank you very much. The following is a speech by Chan

Thomas at the Inglewood Unit of Understanding on Saturday, January 20th. 24th,

1970. Subject, ESP, UFOs, and Eternity. Let's give Chan a big hand here

and welcome to our... Once again, I come to share minds with you, and this is always

one of the high evenings, high point evenings, that I spend in my too short life.

I'd like to tell you that I have a new book out. It's not out yet. It's in the

hands of the publisher. It looks like McGraw-Hill is going to publish my newest book. The title

of it is Body 2, and it's my book on ESP, which I do not like to call

extrasensory perception. I call it equilibrium system perception. How many here have

seen any kind of an unidentified flying object? How many here have not? How many

here have heard me tell you how to go see one? How would you like

to go do it? All right. Let's start off by telling you exactly, this is the

beginner's course, really. I've been through it, and a friend of mine here

did exactly what I said to do, and he came out this first evening in spades.

Now, you've all seen twinkling stars, haven't you? It's like the first thing you heard of

when you were a child was a twinkling star. Well, the next time you

start studying twinkling stars, or just looking at them, look at the way

they twinkle. It's a peculiar way. They have specific colors. They will be a sort

of a yellow white, a bright white, a blue, a green, and red. Now,

the blue and green flashes will be long, sort of long flashes. The white, the bright

white and the yellow white will be longer. That will be the longest colors.

And there will be flashes of red, which are usually the shortest length

colors, which you'll see. Some nights you'll see a few stars twinkling like that.

And on rare occasions when you look up there, every blasted one of them is blinking in this

same fashion. Not in time with each other, in random times, but they're all blinking

and winking as if to say, guess what I'm doing. Well, on nights like that,

it's very difficult here in the basin to get a good, clear view. If you can get away

from the basin, on a weekend especially, when you can go out in the desert,

not alone, take a buddy, take your husband or wife, take another couple.

If you can get three or four of you to do this together, it's the best way, believe me.

Take blankets, take air mattresses, pillows, sleeping bags, anything to spend the

night. Because if you're going to do it right, you must spend the night.

And rest up the evening, the afternoon and evening if you can, before you go.

Because the best rewards come to you if you spend the entire night watching. Now what you do is lie

down on the ground. Go out to the ground near, what is it, Table Mountain? It's near

Giant Rock, but I'm thinking of the Flat Mountain near there. Oh, that mountain is a

wealth of things to see. In the daytime, if you look closely, you will

see carvings in rocks ages old. And the only number that appears in any of those rocks

around that mountain is six. And one part of the base of that mountain you'll see what

looks like a strata of rock, you look closer and you see that it is an ancient wall

lying down with joints between the stones, a prehistoric wall. Oh, this would be a

fantastic day to spend out there just as we did going around that base of that mountain.

We found hearth stones which were bricks, baked bricks in the ground. And in

these hearth stones were embedded in little teeny grains of gold. It was from an old goldsmith's

furnace. Well, go out there and lie on the ground and look up or someplace else where the sky is

clear. And you pick out some of these stars to watch. Now, the reason you

lie down is that you just can't spend the night with your head craned back. You have to

lie on your back, get comfortable, get chummy so that you're all in a positive frame of mind,

and you watch, and you watch. And you'll notice that some of these stars indeed are twinkling, and

some are not. And those which are not are sort of a yellow-white steady light, no blinking, no twinkling.

And over here is some star just as busy as can be, bright white, green, blue, and short red

flashes. I promise you, I guarantee you, if you spend one night like this,

sooner or later you will see a star that is twinkling take off and go zip, and you'll see it

streak to the position of another star which was not twinkling all this time. And the

star that wasn't twinkling starts twinkling, and the star that was twinkling

stops twinkling. And you can see the streak as they go from star to star.

And the first time you see it, you think, I'm seeing things. Did it really happen? And the

first tendency, the normal tendency, is to keep quiet, don't say anything, it's me. But believe

me, speak out and say, did you see it? Your partner will say, oh yes, I saw it.

And you'll point, yes, they'll point. Party number three, party number four will agree.

And then you realize that you really saw this, I think. And now the payoff begins because as you watch, there

will be another, and another, and another, and another. And on through the night, you'll

see this. Now if you are really persistent and really watch, you might get a bigger payoff on your very first

night. Because as dawn just creeps over the horizon, and you think, well, this is all

we're going to see tonight, you'll see that one or two of these stars near the dawn, which have just been

hanging there all night and rotating with the rest of the sky, you'll see those stars just all of a sudden, slowly,

gradually move away. Every friend of mine and every acquaintance of mine who has tried what I told them to

do, had these payoffs the first night, the very first night. So I would have to say to

you that if you really want to see UFOs at a distance, this is the way to start. This is the way to start.

Now believe you me, we have uncovered enough in the way of communications, and we'll be talking about this tonight, to

where you have to believe that they know you're there and you're thinking about them and watching them. And they know

you can't communicate with them because you just don't have this ability in your mind. I'm reminded of a story told

me by a friend of mine who is now a retired Navy captain. This was back in 1959 or 1960, just before he

retired. He was in his 60s, and he told me that back in the late 1800s, his mother was a

young girl who was 12 years old on a farm in Indiana, on her parents' farm.

And this morning, she was out in one of the fields, just playing around. And all of a sudden, not

100 to 200 yards from her, appeared this round shaped vehicle and just hovered, and it appeared

like from nowhere. And a voice inside her head said to her, Elizabeth, go to the farmhouse,

your mother's dying. She has something she wants to tell you. And she just stood there

transfixed to the spot as the thing disappeared. She didn't budge. Her first thought was,

how did they know my name? And it's in my head. How did I hear it in my head?

Pretty soon, it came right back and said, Elizabeth, I told you to go to the farmhouse, your mother's dying.

She wants to talk to you. Go on. And disappeared again. And the girl just stood there, transfixed

to the spot. Well, the third time the vehicle appeared and said, now, Elizabeth, I told you to go to that

farmhouse, now your mother's in there, she's dying, she wants to talk to you, now run! And Elizabeth

shook herself into reality and ran. And yes, her mother was in bed, was dying, and had been

calling for her. And she did get to tell young Elizabeth what she wanted to before she

died. And she died with Elizabeth in her arms. Well, poor Elizabeth told this story to

everyone in the innocence of youth, and for years afterward, almost all her life, she was

called everything from a nut to an idiot to a liar to Lord knows what. When I explained this

story to her son, who was the retiring Navy captain, tears welled in his eyes. And he

said, you know, I just wish my mother could hear you explain this. He said, I believed her

all these years, and now, now I'm happy I did, because I can see why it

could be true. And it probably was true. Well, it happened to her, oh,

just a few years after Maxwell derived his fabulous equations on electromagnetic theory, before

anyone even thought of a radio tube. And it's his equations, which are the basis of the design of

every broadcasting station today. His equations still hold true. What a fabulous man he was, and

what a terrible loss to society when he died in his 40s. Because on the trail that

he was going, he would have been the man to have found the equations for building a controlled

gravity device. He was on the right. Well, that would be wishful thinking,

because it didn't happen. Anyway, Elizabeth's story opens up avenues to us,

which I mentioned about your first night watching for UFOs. How do you learn to communicate this

way? What is extrasensory perception? It's really not extrasensory at all. That means

perception outside the senses. This kind of communication is really perception inside the

senses. Intrasensory perception would be much more proper. Let's look at it from

as close to a scientific point of view as we can. It has to be

based on some part of the human physiology, because that's what works when it

works. It's our physiology that's doing it. Now, it has to be reliable,

because it seems to be that it is not subject to any kind of deterioration

that we know in any other kind of communications. We've got to throw out

electromagnetic radiation. We've got to throw out magnetics. We've got to throw

out magnetohydrodynamics. We've got to throw out light. We've got to throw out nuclear

energy. We've got to throw out atomic energy. We've got to throw out even

laser energy. This has to be something that is so reliable that nothing ever interferes

with it to any extent. Now, there's only one thing we know of that answers this, and

that is gravity. The force of gravity withstands its effects over ranges without

deterioration that nothing of these other modes of propagation can boast. The pull of gravity

has its effect throughout the entire universe as we know it. It's a more constant

thing than we know any other thing to be. Thunderstorms, electromagnetic disturbances do not

change it in any way whatsoever. So let's take a look at it from a viewpoint of

hypothesizing, if you will, from particle physics. The best physicists of all time

have come up with the concepts that we live in a particle world. Everything is made up of

particles adding up in one way or another to make up different entities of structure. If we were to take

the annual steel output of the United States, the entire tonnage of it, and take the

space out of it, and have left just the particles of the steel. Now I'm talking about

the space inside the steel. That entire steel output would be the size of an egg.

Of course it would be denser than anything we know. It would be so heavy and so concentrated it would go

immediately to the center of the earth, penetrating everything on its way. But that's how much space

there is in some of the most dense material we know. And that space is surrounded,

permeated by the particles making up the iron atoms and the carbon atoms that go into

making steel. Now, physicists have envisioned our particle universe as a gathering of particles

moving, always moving, as long as there is temperature above absolute zero. You're going

to have movement of particles. That's what makes temperature. And one of the things they've agreed upon is

that if you take this random movement of particles everywhere, and in this room there are gases moving

around particles, if you take the movement of these particles in any direction, any one direction,

there is an equal and opposite movement of particles. In the opposite direction particles are moving,

in an equal quantity and rate, in the opposite direction. Now, we have different kinds of particles. Let's

generalize them into colliding and non-colliding particles. Particles which are so big as to cause collision with

other particles. And particles which are so small that they just will not collide with other particles. I'm thinking

of a neutrino, for instance, as a collisionless particle. Let's envision a kind of a particle that

has not even yet been recognized in the world of physics. Now, this is a hypothetical particle, and

yet it is entirely plausible. Let's envision a particle that's so small that it approaches zero in diameter, and

it moves so fast that it approaches infinity in speed. Now, I talk about approaching. Those of us

who've had calculus know about what I'm talking about here, but let's reduce it to household terms. Suppose we were

to build a staircase from that floor to that floor, and we divide it into 12 steps. Then we tear it down and we

build another staircase with one more step, 13 steps. We have to make them smaller to do it.

Then let's tear it down and put another staircase in with 14 steps. We make them smaller, all right. We can do it.

Now, we keep building this until maybe we get up to a million steps. We can always tear it down and build a staircase

with one more step in it. Now, you can realize that the smaller we build the steps, the greater the number of steps we can

put in, right? Which means that the height of the steps is approaching zero height. But remember, no matter how many

stairs you have, how many steps you put in, you can always build it over again with one more step in there. And you can

always decrease the height of each step. And it never becomes zero, but it approaches zero. If you were to

walk toward that wall, starting here, and step toward it in the manner that you always step only halfway to that

wall from where you are, will you ever reach it? No. Will your step ever become zero distance

toward the wall? No. It will approach zero, right? The distance will approach zero.

This is the concept in calculus known as the infinitesimal. Now, suppose your velocity of stepping

toward the wall increased with each step. It would approach infinity. It would

approach infinity in speed as your distance approached zero in length of your steps.

Now, here we are talking about this particle. The diameter gets smaller and smaller as we look

at smaller particles until we find a particle which approaches zero in diameter. And its speed gets

higher and higher until it approaches infinity. So we say it's near zero in diameter and

near infinite in speed. Now, remember in all these particles, if we have a bunch of colliding particles

going this way and with it some non-colliding particles, the sum of the particles in this direction

is equal and opposite to the sum of the particles in that direction. Now, suppose we have more

colliding particles than we have in this direction than we have in that direction. The result will be that

this will collide more with those and push them that way, a force in that direction.

Right? But remember the total of all particles has to be the same. That means there are

less non-colliding particles this way than there are going this way. There are more non-colliding

particles going this way and more colliding particles going that way. So we get a push of force in

that direction. Now, suppose we go to a planet. You're sitting on a planet right now. And you're

being pushed toward the planet by particles colliding with you. The only reason that you're being pushed in that

direction is that from inside this planet, more non-colliding particles are being issued out than

colliding particles. And more colliding particles are pushing in than there are non-colliding

particles. But the sum of the particles going in and the sum of the particles going out is the

same. Now, all we have to do if we're going to build a spaceship is to use this principle of

colliding and non-colliding particles. What we have to do is to learn how to make

non-colliding particles out of colliding particles. And we've got ourselves a spaceship. Because if

we can fire down more non-colliding particles, then the Earth is firing up non-colliding

particles. The Earth will be firing up more

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colliding particles and we are firing down and it will push our ship up.

All of this comes to the nature of the human being. We have this stable

reference, gravity, coming out of a planet, non-colliding particles. But remember,

we have non-colliding particles going in every direction also. In our head, we have equilibrium

loops. There are two vertical loops and one horizontal loop. Now, the two vertical

loops are for sensing horizontal energy going through them. These are very well-known structures in

electrical engineering for loop antennas. The one horizontal loop is designed to sense vertical energy

going through it. Now, this is an interesting structure because it's functional in design. There are

fewer horizontal signals than there are vertical signals. So, we have twice

the number of loops to sense horizontal energy that we have for sensing vertical

energy. Lots of vertical energy. All right. In our lifetimes, we're used

to sensing this stable reference with our equilibrium loops, and these loops go up the equilibrium

nervous system to the brain, and they're connected to every part of the brain, every part. And from the

brain, they go down to the pons, and from there, that's the junction box, really, for all the nervous

system at the base of the skull. From there, they go to down the spinal cord and out to

every muscle in the body. Now, on the lower primates, such as an ape or a gorilla or a chimpanzee,

this equilibrium nervous system is so well defined that if you dissect the animal, you can trace that nerve to every

muscle in his body. In a duck or a goose, you can do the same thing. In the human, this equilibrium

nervous system is so fine that you cannot trace it after it leaves the spinal cord. It has to be there, though,

because in just moving your hand from one place to another, you must have a stable reference that tells you

where your hand is here, and where it is to go to over there, and where it has been here to move from.

You must have that stable reference. Now, in our lifetime, we are used to using that only for that purpose.

Just to sit up in your chair, you must have your equilibrium system working, or you would fall over. Now, in our

lifetime, we are used to using that only for that purpose. Just to sit up and walk out of this room, you must have

that reference for every muscle that you use, or you couldn't walk out of the room. Now, suppose that this

reference signal that you get contained more than just directional reference. Suppose, like a

broadcast signal, it were modulated with intelligent information, but that content was so small that you

could afford to ignore it, because it never meant much to you anyway. But it is there.

How would it affect you? Well, from our work, we have found that it affects one's subconscious mind directly,

as if the communication were right there. Now, I would also like to make plain that the

subconscious mind is really not the mind at all. The subconscious mind is what I call the body two.

When a person is born, he is born with two bodies. She is too. You are born with two bodies, believe

it or not. Your body one is your conscious body. It is the one that you feed, it grows up, you

coordinate its mind, it exercises itself, sometimes it dissipates itself, it reproduces

itself, it grows old, and it dies. It is a very temporary thing. But with this body one is

born your body two. Now, in every atom of your body, especially those of your nervous system, there

is a gravitational system precisely similar to that of the planet we are living on. And that

gravitational system is emanating collisionless particles and receiving collisionless particles.

And this body two actually is more you than your body one is. It is your

personality. It is your entire memory. Nowhere in the entire human brain has the medical profession, have physiologists

ever found any function pertaining to memory. It is a body two function. Your entire

life experience, your prejudices, your personality, your personality

everything is a part of your body two. A child is born with his body two and his body one

tied together functionally to the extent that he doesn't even know there is a difference or that there are two there.

To him it is all one. What the connection is between these two we have yet to find out.

We have yet to discover. But there is a connection. The thoroughness of that connection is a measure of

how much a person knows consciously of what is going on in his subconscious mind. Now when a child is three

to six months old believe me in his body two in his subconscious he has the vocabulary of

a full grown adult. And is trying madly to communicate mind to mind with everyone around

him because his body one is not trained to do it that way. And God help the poor infant who is

surrounded by children and adults talking to that infant in so called baby talk. It is a world

of confusion. Give me a child an infant who has spent his young years surrounded by intelligent

conversationalists and I will give you the most intelligent child to send off to school when he starts school.

It is when that child is first exposed to the social concepts which we call group

acceptability. Group conformity. That the child realizes our prime rule of social

maturity. And that is that the measure of one's social maturity is in his

ability to hide what is in his mind. Not only does he learn that he must sever these two

functions or that he can but he must sever his conscious and subconscious, his body one, body two.

And that is when he learns that these two functions can be separated and that he can lie, cheat,

steal, deceive. And it comes usually as a result of his first contacts with the requirement

of conformity of the child and of the society. It will come in kindergarten,

in Sunday school, it might even come right inside the walls of the family home.

It is an interesting thing when this happens to a child. We have seen it. Once we

discover this we see it. And it is like the lights in a child's eyes go off.

It is not just a child, just a child. Those children who grow up in societies,

in homes, in a school environment, in a religious environment, where they are allowed almost unlimited

intellectual and spiritual freedom and are not surrounded by negative thoughts of parents and teachers and associates,

survive this period, maintaining their tie with what we say is ESP. There are

others who survive this period by determining on their own that they will fight within

themselves to maintain their intellectual freedom, their spiritual freedom. They are those who

keep this tie in spite of their environment. They are fewer in number.

Back in the 1970s, I had the concept of why there should be ESP because I

was studying the human equilibrium system from the viewpoint of what happens to the equilibrium

system in space physiology. Then I discovered the whole concept of antennas, of gravitational

sensing, and our hypothesis at that time was suppose there is limitless

in range. No solid can stop it. It goes through anything. It doesn't deteriorate

anything. It is not like x-rays or radiation or laser beams or anything. Nothing has

deteriorated by it. Nothing stops it. So we devised a means of testing

whether there were information in this system in answer to the instructions and coordination

put to it by the equilibrium system. We said, all right, we could point to

if there is an information content, maybe the human hand would let us know

by pointing to a letter if that is there. But let's make it easy and

reduce it a little bit. And all we found out that we were receiving like math all the

time, all kinds. Everybody from soup to nuts is trying to break in to

communicate with us this way to you and you and you, me, all of

us. It is happening to us all the time. We had to evolve

the concept of transmitting and receiving. Let's put down the requirements. To be a good receiver,

the best receivers are those who have found their own inner peace. You can relax

spiritually, mentally, physically. You can be at peace with your fellow man

as well as with yourself. To be a good receiver, to be a good

transmitter, you must have this same peace, but you must also have

the ability to shut out or to exclude every thought from your conscious

and subconscious mind but the very one you want to transmit. Just

remember that you have to be conscious and aware of

what is going on in your subconscious mind

and your subconscious mind. That is how an audience is held.

The speaker, the entertainer is putting out a signal with his conscious

mind and thinking something else with his subconscious mind will lose his audience.

He will lose him. It happens all the time. An entertainer who is

not a top entertainer will have this sad characteristic. So if you are

going to transmit, you are going to have to be conscious and aware

of what is going on. You are going to be

aware of what is going on. You are

going to have to be conscious and aware of what

is going on. John, stop at Ralph's and bring home a

dozen grade double A eggs. End it. If

you think, I wonder if he got it,

you will jam your own message. Once, with full

faith that he got it. Now, the guy in the radio station has got a

microphone. And let's say he's got the kind with a button on it. And he

pushes the button, he speaks into the microphone, with full faith that what he

says is going down in his mind. He's going to be surprised,

wouldn't he? The announcer. That's the attitude you must

have to transmit properly, a mind-to-mind transmission. Be

surprised if you don't put it out, don't

question it, obey that impulse, go to routes, stop, go in. You don't

know what for, walk around. You may bring home a pound of butter, but at

least you got part of the signal and you obeyed it. That much

will help to retie your conscious and mind. We first realized

that this was a powerful thing in human beings. Our daughter

Caroline was coming home on the front seat of our car. Eleanor was driving

and I was at work. It was in the afternoon and

Eleanor said, I'll ask him. It's just as if Eleanor had said

it, you see. Knowing that she wasn't trying to transmit, she didn't

question whether she put it out or not. She put it out. I'll have to

have Chen bring it in when he comes home. We have an

older daughter who is now in UCLA. At that time she was 15.

We were teasing our older daughter Stephanie about something. Stephanie

just stopped talking and thought to herself, I'm not going to say another

word. We had a conversation and Stephanie just burst into the

conversation. Caroline said, you said you weren't going to talk anymore.

Stephanie said, I did not. Oh, I thought

it. But to Caroline she had said it.

But they won in the end. They won. But she still has a

pretty good degree because we can still communicate in our family. In fact, our whole

family does. We send signals to each other all the time. Well, there you

are. If you make a connection with us,

you will be able to use it and train yourself

and actually retie your own body one and body two tie. Whatever

it is, we never found out. It's there, that tie. Our oldest

boy, our oldest son, was raised by the

government and was born in North Carolina. He

was born in North Carolina and we took him

to school in the summer school that the girls was giving a oh they all had to give a term paper in this health course and jack was

taking it and this one girl was giving a term paper on esp she had gotten a hold of dr rhine's five cards you all know those are a square a star a circle wavy lines and what have you and she had made five sets of these so she had 25 cards uh and she had a sixth set and their whole family had tried and not one there were seven in the family not one had gotten one out of 25 cards so her paper was based on uh the hypothesis or the conclusion that there is no such thing as esp it's just a sideshow freak thing well jack was so enraged by this because he knew what esp was that when she called for a volunteer to demonstrate he volunteered but then right away he knew he couldn't be angry because anger shuts down this communication

anger disrupts your inner peace so he calmed down he said i'll do it if you allow me to pick my partner because he knew he had to pick one he had to pick a girl because girls follow orders better than boys and so uh then he also had to pick a uh an extrovert oh don't i know that i used to teach a class of 90 girls at columbia university and believe me i'd rather teach girls than boys anyway any day because you're embroiled in argumentation in the class of boys uh anyhow uh he picked this girl who was an extrovert he had to pick an extrovert and she said yes i'll do it and this and that they sat down and the first five cards he got one two three the way they did it was she

sat at one end of the table with her back to him and he sat at the other end of the table with his back to her and he had the five cards in front of him she had the 25 cards and as she would look at one he would point to the one no sound and somebody standing by her afterward would announce which one she had sent and which the one standing by him would announce which one he had received now this is a sort of a silly way to do it because you had all these jamming influences you understand somebody watching her somebody watching him and they're betting whether they get them or not and maybe they're hoping they won't here's the girl who gave the paper who's hoping they don't get him because it would prove

her point she's a real jamming influence you know so uh uh there they are and he got the first five and the girl giving the paper stopped it then and said well now this is in the realm of guessability mathematically quite possible for him to guess these so let's go on so the next five he got the next five well she was sort of flustered then and well she couldn't explain that then came the next five this is 15 now and he got those 15 straight the mathematical odds against this are almost fantastic and by this time the class was starting to snicker at the whole thing and she said well this is the realm of guessability and he said well the whole business because the girl was giving the paper was angry she figured that jack had worked a

sneaky deal on her because he picked the girl you see so then the next five came up which is the first 20 and he got four that's 19 straight and he missed the 20th by this time the class was bedlam he said the whole place was such a disruption he couldn't have gotten that 20th he just couldn't then he mixed then he missed the next five altogether so he got the first 19 out of 25 and somebody in the classroom got up afterward who had attended one of my lectures on esp and asked jack what happened to you jack and jack said well i guess i'm just a little out of practice and let it go at that but this showed right there now the girl he picked on i know i know he never had a date with her he

never went over to her house she was only a classmate and he never said that she was a classmate and allowing her to tell him she was out so that she can try to Dan what ls not see recently what place does. room acquaintance of his. There was no collusion between them whatsoever. It was a very interesting thing. And everybody, you know, dismissed the whole affair as a hoax, just a great big hoax. So be it. But it proved enough to us. Well, there you are. You can have factual communications, but don't start out trying to get it. If you're going to retie body one and body two, it has to be done through full faith in anything you receive or send in the link that you're trying to establish. Now, if you do get a Ouija board, you know, I never even saw a Ouija board until months after I made my communications board. And I'll have to say with all impartiality

that my communications board is based on much sounder communications theory than any Ouija board I've ever seen. All right. A Ouija board will work, but don't use the sliding thing they give you. Use a whiskey jigger. Get a little five cent whiskey jigger and make sure that it's not flat on the bottom. It has a dent in it, a little dent in the bottom so you can stick your finger in there and use that to push. Now, the best way is to get at least three people, maybe four. Three is good. Each one of you lightly putting your finger on the glass. Now, if there are three of you on there, two of you will feel, each one of you will

feel like the other two is doing the pushing. One of you swears the other two are pushing. The other one swears the other two are doing the pushing. The other one swears the other two are doing the pushing. Then it's working properly. Each one of you is contributing just a little bit to this. Now, make certain you're communicating properly. When you call somebody on the telephone, you don't just lift the telephone and wait to see who's there, do you? You dial a number, right? You dial a number for the person you want. Somebody answers. You say, this is Mary. Is Evelyn there? Well, no, Evelyn isn't here or yes, she's here just a minute. So she comes to the phone. Hello, is this Mary Jones? Yes, this is Mary Jones. You know this

is Evelyn. Smith, because that was her number you dialed. But she says, well, I'm glad you recognize her voice, right? Now, this is the function in communications known as address and identification. Never, never enter a message, a communication link without a proper address. You don't take an envelope and just seal it and put a stamp on it and put it in the box. No, you write an address on it. So address your message. If you want to talk with somebody, you don't have to write an address on it. If you want to talk with somebody, you don't have to write an address on it. So I want to talk with Bill Jones in Swackenbach, New Jersey. Oh, how many Bill Joneses are there?

All right. I want to talk with William T. Jones in Swackenbach, New Jersey. Well, maybe there are several of those. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. Now you've addressed your message. You say it out loud because this organizes what's in your subconscious. Your subconscious will put out the same signal that you speak. The only reason for speaking out loud while you're running a communication communications board is that you're organizing what's in your body to to put out the same message. That's the one that gets there. Well, now everybody's on this link. You'll have interferers, jammers, everybody trying to get

in to talk to you when they find out that you can communicate this way. It's there. Believe me. So you start out by saying, I want a clear line. Everybody off this line. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with

William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with William T. Jones at 2598 such and such a street in Swackenbach, New Jersey. I want to talk with Now you've got a clear line, you've got an address And if there is a William T. Jones at that address Even if he's somewhere else in Paris, France That address registers, he'll answer It'll come back, yes, you've got him

You've addressed him, you've cleared the line You've got him Now talk to him, no pauses The minute you pause and try to think what you're going to say Jammers come in, interferers come in Pretenders will come in, pretending to be there to be him Pretending that they're him Carry on your conversation, zip, zip, zip, zip

And when you're through, sign off Bye bye Don't just leave him hanging there, that's rude You don't do that on the telephone, tell him goodbye Communications this way can be as reliable as telephones Believe me It can All right

If you learn to communicate this way I guarantee you As surely as I guaranteed you about the twinkling stars Sooner or later you'll be conversing with someone who says he's in a spaceship Believe him Treat him as if he's telling the truth And worlds will unfold to you Ask him to describe his ship

Where is he from? How big is the crew? Is he the captain of the ship? Get the full information from him How many here have seen a mothership? That's a rare experience I've seen two One I saw during a sunset

I computed from the angle of vision From the front to the rear of the thing And where I was And the range I knew what the range had to be Because he was entering the atmosphere Taking into account all probable errors Of the ship

The minimum length of that ship was 10 miles And the maximum was 50 miles long They're big To come that close to a planet is a mistake Actually this ship was undergoing a power plant failure And that's the only reason he approached that close Talk to the crew of a ship like that sometime They'll tell you that they never go to any planet

They live out there And believe me Suppose Just suppose That we were to create a crime-free Germ-free Ignorance-free society Where would we create it?

What better place? What better place? And if somebody becomes a criminal up there What do you do with them? Put them down You don't have to kill them Or punish them Just put them down here

And if you read the Bible And read the part of the Bible That refers to fallen angels It makes sense It makes sense You remember the part of the Bible That refers to Mary going into the garden Where she encountered two men

And presuming them to be the gardeners She struck up a conversation with them About the tombstone And later she discovered They were angels Remember? What's an angel? What's an angel?

He has to be enough like a human being To be taken for a gardener Doesn't he? But also I think it's mentioned in there Something about their special raiment That they wore Well, read this

In light of fallen angels And Mary's angels in the garden Our earthbound society Now makes a little bit more sense to us Now we know We know That Eternity

Is a long, long time We think of it as Forever Don't we? We have to think of it In a different light I think Because

There are two theories One is The cyclic universe Where there is an explosion And a contraction To A pre-explosion state And then there's the

And then another explosion Of a universe That's covering billions of years And then a recycling of this Right now Our universe Figures to be about 4.32 billion years old

When it started I guess it's pretty much An agreement That there was a big bang That everything blew What?