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1961 Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Carl Anderson 2h57m P71

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
• [05:00] Main address
• [44:21] Development of the main themes
• [01:24:03] Audience questions and discussion
• [01:42:44] Closing remarks

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

...do some several very fantastic-sounding stories, but most true.

He has had a number of experiences, as I said, with flying saucers, and I'm going to let him do his telling. He can tell it better than I can, and he's long time known among us as a wonderful contactee. I'll give you now Carl Anderson.

Thank you, Mrs. Forrester. It has been a long time since I've had the pleasure of standing here before you. I think it has been nearly three years, and I'm very happy to be back here once again. I think I have some new information, and it is indeed a great pleasure to see such a nice turnout as we have here tonight.

At this time, may we all bow our heads just a moment, please.

Almighty Father. Creator of the infinite universe. Creator of all that has ever been, and all that will ever be. We, thy children, have gathered in thy presence to receive the truth, the knowledge, the understanding, and the blessing

that our angelic brothers are bringing to us in these last days of this age. We ask, O Father, that thou open our hearts and our minds, that thou will expand our consciousness and our awareness, and teach us to truly love one another. That thou will bless and protect us daily. That thou will open our eyes and our ears to understanding. That we may speed preparation for the return of thy beloved Son, and the glorious fulfillment of the new age now dawning upon the horizon. May our understanding steadily increase as the fulfillment, of thy promise of everlasting peace and love descends upon our weary planet. We ask this in the name of thy beloved Son, Jesus, who became the Christ. So be it. Amen. I have a message from the space people, and it goes as follows.

When the people of your earth are ready to welcome us, we will descend from the skies to land among you and share our knowledge with all of you. But until that dawn of understanding and realization arises to greet us, we must continue to watch the gathering momentum of disease, death, war, and destruction,

which could so easily be averted, once again encompass your beautiful planet. Look up and think. It has been said many times, that behind you, there is a light, behind every happy and successful man, there has to be someone in his life who has given him great inspiration to make him what he has become. And at this time, I would like to introduce a little lady whom I fell in love with, who became my wife, and who has been not only a wonderful wife, but a wonderful, wonderful mother, to my four children. Stella, will you please at least put your hand up? I know you don't like to stand up.

Thank you, dear. I may get shot when I get home, but... You know, somehow or another, I've never had the fear of death, because after all, I have come to the realization that death is not an ugly thing. It is a joyous occasion, because after all, is it not a graduation? It is something higher and more beautiful. Now, I have been asked to try to keep my lecture down to one hour, and in order to do this, I've got to cut corners a little bit. Ordinarily, I could talk for two and a half or three hours,

[05:00] Main address

and I know nobody wants to listen that long. However, at Williams College up in Berkeley, I did speak for three hours, and then they wanted more. Uh... I didn't realize that there were so many foolish people. But anyway, I have broken it down into eleven parts, which are as follows. Number one, the evidence of flying saucers. Number two, why the silence from nearly all world governments? Number three, who are the space people and the myth of the little green men? Number four, why are they here and what do they want? Five, the 360,000-year cycle and the impending danger.

Six, why did our two space vehicles tumble, completely out of control? Seven, my visit aboard a 200-foot diameter craft on the morning of February 14, 1960, and what I was told. Eight, the conditioning of my lungs to breathe the atmosphere of another planet. Nine, my strange illness in 1963 and the stranger who suddenly appeared at my bedside at the Long Beach Community Hospital. And number ten, what my Indian friend told me about the family from the planet Pluto. Number eleven, the small people who dwell on small planets. Now, if time permits, there are some other things I will go into, and if time does not permit, I would suggest that perhaps you make a notation of these items, and we will have, as I understand, a question and answer period. And you will be permitted at this time to have a chance to ask these questions. I would be very glad to answer these questions for you. And if you would like to write some of these things down,

if you have paper and pencil, or if you can remember some of the things, I would be very happy to answer these questions for you. Number one, the construction of spacecraft. Two, the method of propulsion, static charge, magnetic field. Three, how is the g-force overcome during flight and maneuvering? Four, why don't spacecraft get hot when entering or leaving Earth's atmosphere? Five, how can they attain such fantastic speeds, many times the speed of light? Six, what is the interior of the craft like? All right, number one, the evidence of flying saucers. I think from what you have heard on radio, television perhaps, news reports, and other sources, that by this time you are quite aware that it is evident that these things do exist. The various governments of the world have for a long, long time tried to keep this a secret. Now there are two reasons for this. Recently, some of the governments are breaking out and they are becoming more lenient

in telling the people the true facts. For example, in the Netherlands, they are now teaching this information to the school children. And this is a great breakthrough, believe me. Now there are two reasons. They tell us that people would panic if they were told that there are other people coming here from other places visiting this Earth today. Now this seems rather hard to believe to an intelligent thinking person, but nevertheless, in some instances, this may be very, very true. Do you remember some years back when Orson Welles came on the radio with a program and said, there are horrible monsters now invading the Earth and they are landing among us? And he made the program so realistic that people actually did go out and commit suicide in many cases. Now some of us remember this. It was in the newspapers at the time and it actually happened. Now this is one important fact to remember. Many, many people would panic

at the thought and the realization that we are not the only people in the universe. Perhaps we haven't been taught these things. In our churches as well as in our schools, one is just as much to blame as the other. But nevertheless, we have been told by the world, by our churches, that from time to time we have visitors here from other places on Earth. And if you look up the word angel in the ancient Greek and Latin, you will find that it means messenger or a person from some other place. But anyway, we have also seen some instances, reports in the papers, that people say, if I ever see one of those things, I'm going to shoot it. And in fact there have been several instances where these craft have been fired at by silly people such as farmers that would go out and shoot at them with a rifle or something of that nature. And to me this seems utterly ridiculous. In the first place, because of the force field surrounding the craft,

they couldn't begin to hit it. Even our jets can't shoot them down because the force field repels the bullets away and it absolutely cannot hurt them. It cannot harm them in any way. But the fact, that people would panic, which to me seems a rather thin excuse for not telling the people the truth, is not the true and not the only reason, not the main reason why we are being or have been kept in ignorance of these truths. Now let me ask you a question and you can decide for yourself. If we were to have a type of free God-given energy, and what I mean free energy that you could not buy, you could not harness it, you could not put it through a meter, you could absolutely make no charge for it, it's as free as the air that you breathe, if we were to have this type of energy underneath the hood of every automobile on our freeways and our highways all over the world, now just give it a little thought. What is this going to do to our economy?

All right? This puts the gasoline and the oil industry out of business. But it goes further than that. What about if we had this type of free energy motor under the hood of our car and a magnetic field surrounded each vehicle in such a manner that it repelled every other vehicle away from it? Perhaps you could only get to within two or three feet of another vehicle and you would be pushed away by a magnetic repulsion force. What would this mean to the paint shops, the body shops, the parts houses? Even wrecking yards as such would fail to exist. Now it goes still further than that. Supposing that we were not killing people and injuring them upon the highways, you know, the nurses, the doctors, the undertakers, the hospitals, the pharmaceutical houses, the lawyers, the judges, the jurors, there'd be a lot of people who would be thrown out of a job. Now just think about it. Now this, my friends, is the true reason why there's silence all over the world.

You know, we read in our Bible in one place. I've read the Bible pretty thoroughly and I recall only one instance of ever reading where the Master Jesus got really mad. And he got really mad. Now was the time that he drove the money changers from the temple. He despised them. And who are the money changers? They're international bankers. Now these are the facts, whether it hurts or not. These are the true bare facts. And the space people have told me this is the main reason why we do not have free energy upon this planet today. If a new and wonderful invention comes forth and it is going to step on somebody else's toes, by putting it out, it is immediately suppressed. Now it's easy to understand how this holds back progress. And so it is little wonder that peoples of other planets are several hundred years and perhaps thousands of years in advance of our society. Not only physically, socially, economically, spiritually, but also

electronically and from there on, you name it. There is nothing to hold back progress. When anything is discovered or invented, it is given freely to all for the benefit, for the good of all. And this way they progress instead of being, becoming stagnated and held back. Now who are the space people? We are all space people. You realize that if we were to land some of our men on another planet and these people on the other planet had never seen us before and we suddenly passed over their cities and in their skies, they would regard us as space people. Now would they not? So people are people everywhere. No matter who they are, where they are, you know, they have a lot of fun poking fun about the little green men. This is a great joke, you know. Joe Pine has used it. Tom Duggan has used it. Everybody has used it. This is quite a thing to be picked around, the little green men. Now, as I say, people are people. They are all created

by the same Creator. They were all created in the Father's image. They don't have three eyes and two horns in their heads and a couple of antennas sticking out the back of the neck and all these sort of things. This is ridiculous. It is true that some are larger than others. We have that right here in this earth. We have seen people in some rare instances, seven feet tall, right here. And we have seen pygmies and dwarfs who are only two or three feet in height. Now, there has been several instances where spacecraft have landed in different parts of the world and small people have been observed alighting from these craft and walking about them and getting back into the craft and going away. This has happened over in Italy. It has happened in the Swiss Alps. It has happened in France. It has happened in Europe. It has happened in France. And there are several places. It has happened in Mexico. And in nearly all of these instances,

these little fellows were wearing green uniforms. Well, if we were to land our astronauts on some other planet where nobody had ever seen us before and our astronauts were wearing blue uniforms, perhaps their people would run about saying, oh, there's some little blue men down here. Well, if you stop and analyze these things, they begin to make sense instead of being ridiculous. Now, why are they here? What do they want? They are here to help us, but up to a point. We have to help ourselves. If you're going to do everything in the world for your child and you don't expect him to do anything for himself, he's going to grow up pretty useless, isn't he? Now, we've got problems on this earth today. Believe me, we've got problems. They're everywhere. Lots of problems. And the space people are not going to iron out these problems for us. We have to do this. They're going to help us. They're going to show us the way, but they're not going to do it for us.

Nearly every planet in the universe, and I am told that each planet in our solar system, by the way, there are 12 instead of 9, the other three have not been discovered by ourselves, so we don't know the science as yet, nearly all of these planets have gone through the same thing that the earth planet is going through today. They have had sickness, they have had disease, they have had trials and tribulations, they have had wars upon wars, and they have killed. But one by one, they have come into the fold to the Father's creation and have learned to live in peace among each other and to dwell in perfect harmony. And in this way, they have progressed. There is no extent to the way that they can progress. There is no limit to the progression that they can make. Now they tell us that the earth planet is the last one in this particular solar system to fall into this particular category. And that one day, we too will join the others

and we will be like them and live like them. And this day is not too far off, but it's not going to happen tomorrow and they're not going to do it for us. They can't understand why we kill each other, why we hate each other, why we have dissension among different races, creeds, colors, religions and so forth. Because we are all children of the one Father Creator, God. And as such, we should get along with each other in perfect peace and harmony and love. And I don't mean physical love, I mean spiritual love. Perhaps there are people who cannot understand that word. One of the reasons they are here is to help us, as I've said. But this is not the main reason. There is another very, very important reason why they're here today. Do you know what a cycle is? A cycle, in a manner of speaking, is a circle. A circle has 360 degrees. A cycle has 360 degrees. And I am told that every 360 degrees in 60,000 years, our entire solar system,

which revolves about the sun, goes through a cycle. Now, we are nearing the end of a cycle. And as we near the end of a cycle, we are approaching the beginning of another cycle. And so at this time, great things will happen. And when I say great things, I don't mean necessarily nice things. I mean things of a very devastating, catastrophic nature. Every 360,000 years, the sun reverses its polarity. Then one by one, starting from the planets that are closest to the sun and working out, they reverse polarity. And one by one, as they reverse polarity, they go through a fantastic change. They stop spinning momentarily. They flip over on the sides. The poles become the equators. The equators become the poles. And they start spinning in the opposite direction. The direction of rotation is reversed. The North Pole becomes the South. The South becomes the North, and so forth. Now, it is a well-known fact that about five years or so ago,

our science detected the fact that the sun has reversed its polarity completely. What does this mean? This means that one by one, the various planets starting near the sun and going out to the farthest away will also reverse polarity. And when this happens, great catastrophic and devastating effects come to bear, such as great tidal waves, earthquakes, tornadoes, extreme changes in climatic conditions, and so forth. These things are now coming closer and closer and closer. I think you all agree that we have witnessed in the past few years very strange effects in our weather. It has been said that the atomic explosions have caused some of these effects. This is very true. The atomic explosions have hastened the effects, which would otherwise come anyway, but they have only been brought about a little sooner. And I'm told that starting in 1967, the beginning of the quakes will take place. I read in the paper here the other day

where an earthquake shook Japan all day long. The same day, we had quite a little tremor down here near Palm Springs, I believe it was, I see in the paper. And so these things are coming about. We know that these things have happened before because science has discovered tropical animals frozen in frigid Arctic and Antarctic regions with green grass and ferns still in their bellies. And what does this indicate? This indicates that that animal certainly never migrated to this frozen place from a tropical area. Because if he had taken the time to go that far, how come that the green grass and the ferns are still within his belly, in his stomach? Now, this proves that whatever happened to this creature happened very quickly, within a matter of a few hours. And this is when the earth flipped on its axis, the poles were reversed, and it placed the animal who was then in a tropical region in a frigid region. And this is what happens

every 360,000 years or each cycle. Now, the fact that this is very close is the main reason why our space friends are here. Now, they want us to live in peace and happiness and love one another and cut out fighting and the warring and the various hatred that's going on today. And then, and not until then, will we be allowed to have the secret of the spacecraft. I myself am working with an electrical engineer, and we have been given the key. But we have been cautioned not to use it. And we will not be able to use it until we get the go-ahead. Because if our government or any other government today had this secret, free energy, they would put it to a great misuse. They would certainly not use it to the benefit of mankind. It is quite interesting and quite pathetic to me when I hear remarks on our news reports about how we're going to send our astronauts out to conquer space. We're going to conquer the moon. All we can think of is conquering something.

We go out and stick a flag up and say, it's mine. By whose right is it yours? Is it yours any more than anybody else's? Now as long as we have the idea of going out to conquer something, we will never meet with success as such. But if we could only think in terms of going out to explore, to go out and shake hands in a friendly sort of way, to meet our friends from other planets, how much more wonderful, how much more beautiful this would be than to think that we're going out and conquer something. And as long as we have this conquering attitude, we will not have spacecraft. They want us to have the spacecraft because they realize that when these cataclysms do come about, we will be able then to go to places of safety. But they have also said that in the event that these things happen, which they are bound to happen sooner or later, many thousands, many millions perhaps, will be taken up and taken to other places of safety by them.

But they would much rather we'd have our own means of doing this. They want us not to depend on them. They want us to learn to depend on ourselves. But in order to do this, we must live in peace and brotherly love. And this is the main thing they're here to teach today. Why did our two space vehicles tumble out of control? You know, words of wisdom come from the mouths of babes. You don't have to be a college graduate with half a dozen degrees to be smart. To be intelligent. And I had a little boy, seven years old, the other day, tell me exactly what the space people have told me about why our two space vehicles in the last Gemini flight could not couple up, why they tumbled about helplessly and would not come together. These objects are made of metal. This metal can be magnetized.

And as these two objects passed out through the Earth's magnetic field into space, they resumed a negative polarity. Now any school child who has ever played with a couple of horseshoe magnets, you can buy them in a dime store and experiment with them yourself, knows that you cannot put two like poles, whether they be positive polarity or negative polarity, they will not go together. Now it's no problem for spacecraft from other planets to couple up and go together. The simple reason that they can change polarity, they can change their magnetic fields at will, simply by throwing a switch or pushing a button. Now if we had had the ability to change polarity on those two space vehicles so that one would have been of positive polarity, then it immediately would have coupled up with the negative polarity of the other space vehicle. But inasmuch as they were both of a negative polarity, they repelled away from each other, and so they tumbled about

madly and wildly until they pushed themselves far enough apart so that there was no longer any magnetic effect between them. Now you don't have to be a college professor to understand this. And this little seven-year-old boy voiced his opinion to me the other day, and this is exactly what the space people had told me previously. So you see, words of wisdom do truly come from the mouths of babes.

On the morning of February the 14th, 1960, about 20 miles north of Yucca Valley, California, in a place not too far from what is known as the Old Woman Springs, near the Victorville Highway, the Victorville Cut-Off, I was privileged for the first time to have been invited and taken aboard a craft which landed near a cabin in which I was staying for the night. This craft, I was told, was 200 feet in diameter, 30 feet in height. It looked very much like the craft that you read about here a few days ago that the police officers chased back in Ohio. You recall they said that they chased a craft down the highway. It was hovering at first, and then it started off at a terrific rate of speed, and they chased it, and it was only a few feet above the highway. I believe, if I recall reading it rightly, they chased this object down a main highway for something like 86 miles, and at times it was traveling at 107 miles per hour. One of the gentlemen

was the chief of police. They took some fantastic pictures of this craft, and then they were told by the Air Force, please do not release these pictures to the public. Why? Are not we entitled to know the truth about what's going on today? Or are just a few fatheads sitting up here in Washington the only ones who are supposed to know the truth? We're paying our wages, aren't we? We, the American people, should demand to know the truth, and here's a good chance to know about it right here, right to this gentleman, and demand this investigation. Learn the true facts. Get up on your American hind legs and do something about it. They described this craft as being like two saucers, one sitting on the table, so to speak, and the other one turned over and upside down. This is exactly the shape of the craft in which I boarded on February 14th, 1960, 200 feet in diameter. It looked like, as I explained it at the time, a large pancake puffed up

in the middle, or two saucers, one upside down over the other. I saw no type of landing gear. I don't know whether there was any or not because it appeared to be sitting right on the sand, and afterwards there was quite a depression in the sand where this huge vehicle had remained for two hours and 20 minutes during the time I was invited on board. A man whom I had met on several other occasions, who claims he is from Massa, or the planet Mars, as we call it, invited me aboard, and I was told some pretty fantastic things aboard that craft that night. I was given information, pertinent information, on the static field and electromagnetic propulsion which makes this craft operate, how they tie in with the magnetic lines of force that the Earth creates as it spins on its axis. And I was told that I must take this information to a great scientist, but that the scientists in my own country, and whose government for which I have faithfully worked

for 25 years, and for which government I, at this time, hold a secret clearance, would not listen to me, that I would have to take it to a foreign government. I was instructed, and I did, on October the 17th, go to Germany and conferred with Dr. Hermann Oberth, who has been known as the father of rocketry, who incidentally is the mathematic teacher of Wernher von Braun. I conferred with Dr. Oberth for three days, and in Wiesbaden, Germany, I lectured to 3,000 people, over 3,000 people, for a period of three days. I met such great men as Dr. Igor Epprich, Dr. Buehler, Dr. Hans Anderson, and many other great scientists who were presently on the teaching staff at the Heidelberg University, or who were in a retired status, who had been, at one time or another, on the staff at Heidelberg University. These were great men. These were men with vision, men with brains. And after I gave Dr. Hermann Oberth the formula, which was given to me in the craft,

he did a little calculating with a piece of paper and a pencil, and he said, my God, it will work. He said, it will work. And then he consulted with the other scientists, and they too agreed. And I said, Dr. Oberth, do you think perhaps that you could be persuasive to get this machine built, produce it? And tears came in the old gentleman's eyes, and he said, I'm afraid not. He said, your government will not produce it for monetary reasons. And after all, he says, we are a puppet, so to speak, in your government. He said, we have occupation troops here, and we're pretty much told what we must do, monetary-wise, through the international banking system and so forth and so on. He said, I'm afraid that we can't produce it either. And so all that these great scientific minds can do is to dream about the day when they will be allowed to produce this marvelous, marvelous piece of machinery. But at that time, as I say, it will put every known means

of motive power that we now are accustomed to using absolutely out of the picture, and it will become obsolete overnight. And this, my friends, will be a great shock to the economy of the world. And it can't come about overnight. It has to come slowly. Among some of the things I was told, I was told so many things that to go into it would, as I say, take two hours or three hours to explain. But among some of the very important things I was told at that time was that at a later date, my lungs would be conditioned to breathe the atmosphere of another planet. I, by the way, asked this man, Kumar, if they were going to take me for a trip this night that I was aboard. And he said, no, not at this time. He said, this is not important. He said, I know you would like to go for a ride, sure, but this is purely of a, you know, a personal thing, something that I would like to do from a personal standpoint, something from a point of curiosity.

And he said, this wasn't important. There were many other things that were so much more important. No, we won't take you for a ride at this time, perhaps at a later date. He said, your lungs will be conditioned for the atmosphere of outer space on other planets. And he said, you will go through quite a trying period. But he didn't go into it any further than that. And so I didn't pay too much attention to it. I quickly forgot this incident, this remark that he made about my lungs becoming conditioned for another planet. And as time went on, it was completely forgotten. Then, long after I had returned from my trip to Germany, where I lectured, as I said, for three days to over 3,000 people, was on radio and television, early in the early part of September 1963, I was suddenly taken very ill with a strange disease. I couldn't get my breath. I went to a doctor. He examined me. He said, oh, you've had a heart attack. He said, here are some pills.

These are digitalis tablets. You go home and you take these as directed on the bottle. And come back in one week and we're going to give you electrocardiograms. That night, I was contacted, this time telepathically. And I was told not to take the digitalis tablets. They would do me more harm than good. So I did as I was told. I didn't even open the bottle. I left them sitting in the medicine cabinet, unopened. One week later, I went down and I took electrocardiogram. The electrocardiogram was 100%. Oh, it proved that I was in fine shape as far as my heart was concerned. The doctor says, well, he said, see what the digitalis pills did for you? Oh, you're coming along fine. Well, you know, I almost laughed in his face, but I didn't want to hurt his ego. I didn't want to spoil the way he was thinking. So I never did tell him that I didn't take his old digitalis tablets. But I continued to get a little worse and a little worse.

And finally, I wasn't getting the proper attention that I figured I should get. I didn't seem to get much better. And still, I did not associate this sickness with what Kumar had told me aboard the craft. No association with it whatsoever. I'd completely forgotten this incident. And so I decided that I'd better call in an expert, a chest expert, who did nothing but take care of heart and lungs. This was a German doctor in whom I had very much faith because I had met these people in Germany, and I know they have wonderful scientists, wonderful doctors, wonderful physicists. And I had great faith in this German doctor. But after examining me to some length, he said, I don't know what it is. He said, it doesn't seem to be pneumonia. It's not valley fever. It's not emphysema. He said, I don't know what it is. But he said, I suggest that you put you in a hospital for a while, study you. And he said, if we can't find out what it is,

he said, I think we'll have to open up your chest and go in there and explore. Well, I said, Doc, I said, when you guys say you practice medicine, I said, that's exactly what you do, is it not? You practice? Well, anyway, I consented, and they put me in the Long Beach Community Hospital. This was somewhere along the middle of September 1963.

Well, it was quite a long trip for my little wife here to come down and see me each night, but she faithfully made it. Every night she was at my bedside. About two weeks I was in the hospital. And I got no better. So finally, my German doctor came in and he said, well, he said, we're going to have to operate. Going to have to open your chest up, see what's in there. Well, I said, after you open it up, then what are you going to do? Well, don't know. We've got to find out first. So that night when I went to sleep, I was quite troubled, believe me. And it was quite a decision to make. Whether I should have my chest cavity open or not. And I still didn't associate this strange illness with my lungs being conditioned. Well, I was awakened around 3 o'clock in the morning by a dazzling bluish white light shining right in my face. And as I woke out of my sleep, I wondered what in the name of goodness has this nurse awakened me at this time of the night for?

[44:21] Development of the main themes

And as I opened my eyes, and I saw that this was no flashlight, this was no light on in the room, no electric light in the room, it so happened, too, that the day before, up until the day before, I had had another man in the room with me. This room was a semi-private room and I had another man in the next bed. And he had moved on out. So this particular day, this night, I was alone. I sat upright in my bed with this dazzling bluish white light in my face. And then the light faded away and the entire room seemed to light up with a sort of a golden glow. And a man stood by my bedside such as I have never seen before. He was dressed in white. He seemed to radiate all over with a magnetic aura surrounding his entire body. He pointed his finger at me and he says, Do not let them operate. And then he disappeared, almost instantly. Now, I have never seen this man since. But needless to say, when he came in the next morning and wanted to wheel me out

and cut my chest open, I said, Uh-uh. I said, You are not going to operate. He even got a hold of my wife and told her that I was going to be a dead man within a few weeks unless I submitted to an operation. He said, This man is very dangerously ill and the only way we can possibly help him is to cut him open and find out what is wrong in there. They did not say what they were going to do after they cut me open, you see. So anyway, I said, No, no dice. So, when the doctor learned that I very obstinately refused to be operated on, he got furious. I said, Doc, you cannot help me. I said, The one that created this body and created this heart and created these lungs inside my body, knows more about it than you do or ever will know. And in him, I am going to put my trust and my faith. I am going to get my clothes and I am going home. And you know, that is exactly what I did. My wife came in and I went home with her. And the doctor said, There goes a dead man.

Well, I saw this doctor the other day and he says, My God, am I seeing a ghost? He could not believe it was me, you see. But anyway, I did not have the operation. I came home and I continued to get better and better and better. And I think I am as physically fit and able today as I was before this thing ever happened, or perhaps a little bit more so. And I was not operated on. Now, here is a strange thing. The doctors claim that the entire metabolism of my body has been changed. It has been rearranged. The chemical construction of my body, I have absolutely a new body from a chemical standpoint. They have this on their records. That the entire chemical structure is completely reversed. And I have tried several times since to have x-ray pictures taken of my lungs. And strangely and mysteriously, the x-ray picture reveals that I have no lungs. They do not show up in the picture. But I am not standing up here and talking to you

without lungs, I do not think. And if I am, the space people have given me something else to breathe in. But whatever it is, it is pretty good, I can assure you. Well, so much for our medical science. I am told that on the other planets, they do not know what sickness and disease is, because they have learned to live the natural laws of the universe. They do not even eat meat, because they realize that a creature, such as an animal that they might kill for meat, also is of spirit force. And as such, it also has a karmic pattern. And they do not want to alter this karmic pattern in any way. They live very close, very close to nature. And as such, I was told by Kumar, it is not a bit uncommon for them to live from 300 to 1500 years of our time in reckoning. You say, oh, this is fantastic. Doesn't our Bible tell us about a man called Methuselah who lived almost a thousand years? About two months ago,

I was privileged to meet a strange and most interesting man, in the eastern part of the Los Angeles area.

Now, this person is not the type of a person who likes publicity, notoriety. He wants to remain unknown, so to speak, from the public. And he has requested that I not make known his name or his whereabouts. But this man is a full-blood American Indian. And he tells me that at the age of 16,

on an Indian reservation in Colorado, he was contacted for the first time from a man from another planet who landed near him and got out of a strange-looking craft and walked over to him. And he said to me, you know, he said, these things are not new to we Indians. He said, our Bible tells us about a man named Elijah who went for a ride in what he called a fiery chariot. Well, in those days, a chariot would be something that they could get into and ride. That's the only thing they knew. That's the only terminology, the only thing they knew to call it. They didn't call it an automobile or a wagon or an airplane or something. They called it a chariot. Now, the static field, the static charge that propels these crafts glows just like the light coming out of these fluorescent tubes. And depending upon the frequency, it depends upon the color. It can go from a brilliant bluish-white to a dull orange color. It can go all through the blue spectrum,

down into the orange, down into a red, and even into the blue. And even into a purple shade, depending upon the frequency of the magnetic, the static charge that propels the craft. And so, is it little wonder that this thing that Elijah got into and took a ride and went away, he said he went up to heaven, is it little wonder they call it a fiery chariot. Now, this Indian tells me that it is a common, well-known fact, handed down through the years from one tribe to another, that way, way back many, many years ago, the Indians saw great white gods come down through a hole in the sky, as they described it, in a great fire canoe. You must realize that the Indian, in his limited knowledge, in his way of thinking, from a scientific standpoint, was only a natural thing for him to call anything that you could get into, people would get in and out of and ride away, or come and visit, would call it a canoe. They knew no other name to call it.

So they call it the great fire canoe. So at the age of 16, this Indian, who was a full-blood Indian chief, as I said, living in the eastern part of Los Angeles, was contacted for the first time by a man who stepped out, of one of the great fire canoes, or what we have so humorously called a flying saucer, and the space people really get a big kick out of this, but they go along with it. To them, it's their spacecraft. Now he has been in constant communication all through the years, from that time until the present time, with these people. And so, about six months ago, he happened to be in a very remote spot, camping out for the night with his wife, in an area, a very desolate area, down near the Salton Sea, when one of these craft landed. There were several people in the craft, but five people stepped out. A man, a woman, and three children stepped out of the craft. They came over to him, and they wanted to know if he could take them into town,

get them a place to stay, if they wanted to live among the people of Earth. They also told him at the time that over the entire Earth's surface, there are now over 800,000 of those people among us, from other planets. They wanted to live among us to try and understand why we do the things that we do, why we have such a dog-eat-dog attitude, why we hate each other, why we kill each other, why we think in terms of nothing but destruction. This grieved them very deeply. And he wanted to know if the Indian could help him, in this respect, help him to find a place to stay. These people had on white uniforms. They were dressed entirely in white. And they had a hair, there was such a red color, it was about the color of carrots, a real carrot red in color. And the first thing the Indian told them was this. He said, in order to pass among our people unrecognized, you must first change the color of your hair, and you must get out of those white uniforms

and dress like the rest of the people around you. So he took them to a motel in Indio, where he had gone on ahead and rented the room for them. And at daybreak, he went out to a drugstore, and he got dye. He came back, and he dyed their hair from a carrot red to a black. And he went out and he bought clothing for them. And when they left the motel, they looked the same as anybody sitting here in the crowd today. No difference. So he took them to the area in which he lived, in the eastern part of Los Angeles. And there he rented a house for them, which was a short distance from where he lived, which could be rented for a reasonable figure. And the man got a job at one of the nearby supermarkets. Today, he is arranging vegetables. So in the vegetable bins, as the people walk by, he's standing right there next to them, talking with them. And he is from the planet Pluto. But nobody knows any different. He could be from Pucca Munger or Azusa,

that's how that goes. Now the children are not ordinary children in as much as they are very, very brilliant, very brilliant children. And they are practically incapable of making mistakes. And so they are constantly coached by their parents to intentionally make mistakes when it comes time to be graded in their school lessons. Otherwise, they would be so much, so far ahead of the other children in the class, they would be so different, that they would instantly be recognized and an investigation would most certainly be made from a medical science standpoint as to what makes these children so exceptionally brilliant and why they should stand apart so much from the other children of their age. And so they have to be continuously coached to make mistakes. Now I haven't seen these people, but I believe this Indian because I have met other people. I have met the man who called himself Kuma who took him aboard the craft. I've also met a young lady aboard the craft

who appeared to be in her twenties. And after she left the room, I was told that she was over 200 years of age and was a great, great, great grandmother. She didn't look a bit over 23 or 24 years of age. Now we can have these things, we can live this way, but we've got to learn to live the law, the natural laws of the universe, the laws that was handed down to us by the Father. And if we obey the law and live in true brotherly love, instead of trying to skin one another and trying to hate one another, then we're truly going to come into a great age. I have a little story here I would like to relate and then I will stop, I believe, for the intermission because I see I've been up here about an hour. And... What brought this to my mind was the fact that we should live without hate. It reminds me of when I was going to school back in the state of Maine. I attended a school back there where we had one teacher, 26 children in the whole school,

nine grades. And I think that in the seventh, eighth, and ninth grade, there was only myself and two others in those three classes. And we had the one teacher. And I remember very distinctly, I have never, never forgotten this, and again we can say words of wisdom come from the mouths of babes. I never will forget the experience when the little first graders were called down to the front row of seats down front near the blackboard, and the teacher was trying to amuse them. And she had various colored, chalk, and she let each kiddie pick out the color he liked best. Little Mary picked green, and Tommy picked blue, and Susie picked pink, and so forth and so on. And she said, Now children, I'm going to take a word, and then I want you to make up a sentence. And I'm going to write this sentence on the blackboard in the color chalk that you've chosen. Oh, this tickled the kiddies to no end. You know, this was wonderful.

So she said, The word I am going to use is the word hate, and I want you to make up a sentence. So she said to the little boy, Johnny, can you give me a sentence using the word hate? And he said, yes. He said, I hate snakes. Well, she wrote on the board, I hate snakes, in the particular color chalk that Johnny had chosen. And it came little Susie's turn, and I believe she hated bugs or something like that. One little boy, he said he hated to go to school. Another little girl says, I hate toads. And finally she came to a little girl who was very shy, very demure, and very obviously of a very, very old spiritual involvement. And she said, Mary, can you give me a sentence using the word hate? And little Mary said, yes. She said, all right. What is your sentence? Little Mary says, I don't hate anything. Now just let that sink in and see how wonderful, see how beautiful that thought is. I don't hate anything. Now I see my hour is up,

and I think we're going to have an intermission here, as I understand it, for a few minutes so we can stretch. And then I believe we're going to have some slides. We're going to go into the question and answer period now. I see we have some very interesting questions here, and I will answer them to the best of my ability. There may be questions that I'm not capable of answering because, after all, I don't know at all. But I think I can pretty well satisfy you with most of them. I have four pictures here which I would pass around. You can pass from one to the other, and you can look at them. And on the back of them, they're self-explanatory. It's written on them what they are and so forth. And all I ask is, please, may I have them returned. That's all. Now we'll start in with the questions. I will read them, and then I'll try to answer them. Can you hear me all right back there? What area in California would be safe

when the disaster in 1967 starts? Well, this is a very good question. This is a very good question. It has been said that the quakes are expected to start in 1967, but the space people are desperately trying to avert this, as they've done for the past seven years. And the way they have been doing this is that they have a method, they employ a method whereby they hover two spacecraft at a 45-degree angle over the fault zone, such as the San Andres Fault in particular, many miles distant in outer space, where they are not seen, and they direct beams of energy down into the crevasse, or the fault zone. They direct a negative beam and a positive beam, one coming from each ship. These beams are directed the same as we direct our laser beams. We've even directed, I understand, a laser beam even on the moon. Now, these people being many thousands of years in advance of our science, it is not at all inconceivable that they can do these great things.

It has been said that anything that can be thought of is a possibility. And you know what happens when you put a negative and a positive charge together. You get fireworks, and I don't mean perhaps. If you don't believe it, try to throw a wrench across the terminals of your battery in your car. See what happens. Now, when these beams, this negative and positive beam cross, they set up a terrific heat. The rock way down deep in the bowels of the earth becomes molten from the intense heat. This molten rock flows together like lava, and they actually are welding the fault lines. Now, in many cases, when they cut this energy, when they get through welding, and they cut this extreme amount of intense energy, this energy ceases, and the ionization that has taken place around the beam dissipates. Immediately, the atmosphere closes in around this area, and we get a sonic boom. Especially around the San Andreas Fault, during the past five years,

there's been many reports of sonic booms when there's been no aircraft at all in the area. And this has puzzled even the authorities. They've heard sonic booms, but they can't figure where they come from. And I am told by the space people that due to the extremely heavy traffic up and down the coast of our jet and other type airliners, they at times have to discontinue the use of this beam until the ship passes through so that the plane will not be disintegrated as it passes through the beam. And this accounts for the sonic booms taking place. So they are desperately trying to avoid this disaster. However, I believe that any place of a high elevation, such as perhaps down at Mount San Jacinto, or I think even up in the area around Morongo Valley, would be comparatively safe. George Van Tassel has received information of late that the Giant Rock area is going to be completely safe. You all know where Giant Rock is.

And if and when you get the urge to go there, and I mean this literally, I was told that each one would know. You would have a feeling. You would either have a telepathic feeling. For example, you know you wake up some morning and you say, well, gee, this is a beautiful day. Let's go to the desert. Now something is going to direct you to be there. And you will be there at the time if you are meant to be. But everybody isn't meant to be for this reason. We all have karmic patterns to work out in our life. And some of us are meant to leave this earthly existence during this time. Those of us who have a karmic pattern that is compatible to the force fields that they can send down from these crafts will be warned in time, and will intuitively be directed to go to safe places. So for this reason, I don't think we have too much to worry about. Because those of us who ought to be saved will be saved. This we have been promised.

How do you explain that the two capsules did lock and then had tumbled? Well, the only thing I can explain, I'm not a scientist, and I was told by the space people that the reason why they did not, why that they did tumble so furiously is because on account of the same polarity. I was never informed of the fact that they did lock. I was told that they did not lock and they had tumbled to quite some extent. But I would only say that they perhaps, if they did finally lock, that this was caused by the space people. Because at many times, strange things have happened while our men have been out in orbit. And on two or three different occasions, I have talked to Scott Carpenter in person. And as I said before, I hold secret clearance with the United States government. And you know what that means. And Scott Carpenter holds secret clearance also. But I was told that many strange things, unexplainable things happened while they were in space.

And that if the space people had not intervened, our men would not be with us today. Now this may have been caused if they finally did lock together, which they have never been informed of. But if they did lock together, I can assure you that this, perhaps no doubt, was caused by the space people reversing polarity on one of those vehicles. Because otherwise, two negatively charged vehicles could never lock together. Question. Our space capsules did lock in space according to released information. Well, this isn't a question. This is a statement. And I thank you very much for this information because I had not been aware of it. Question. Have you heard the space people explain or discuss how we can change our cell structure so that we can live longer? I am told by the space people that to think an evil thought is to do an evil deed. In other words, if you think something wrong, you just might just as well go right out and do it.

Because to think it is to do it. And so we have to change our way of thinking. We have to change our very thoughts. We can't say that we love our next-door neighbor and the minute he turns his back say that dirty so-and-so under a breath. We've got to mean it. We've got to live it. And when we really mean it and live it and live the laws of creation, then our cell structure will change. And we can live much longer. Will the saucers rescue people before the earthquake that Mr. Noel predicted for 1967? Well, I've already gone in that to some extent. But I can only say that they have told me that each one has a comic pattern that he is responsible for working out of his own accord. That if he is to be saved, the space people will pick him up by the transistor beam. Now the Bible tells us that Jesus was lifted bodily into the air. He disappeared into a cloud. And they have told me that a spacecraft lingered in that cloud

and he was picked up on a transistor beam. They also tell me that the pyramids were built for huge blocks weighing thousands of tons were built in the same manner by levitation or by a beam being directed down to canceled gravity and made these big objects weightless and they were lifted up. So that this would be no problem for the space people to do. But the beam that they send down must match the physical aura of your personality or your body or your thoughts. And if you have a negative karma, a black aura around your physical being, it will not be attracted by the beam that is sent down to pick you up. And this is the reason why some will be picked up, others will not be picked up. It depends entirely upon you. Each man has written his own ticket. What will happen to the inhabitants of Earth when it goes through the axis change? Well, this is very difficult to say but I can imagine that if the Earth stopped spinning all of a sudden

and then reversed its rotation, there would be quite a few of us probably knocked to our feet to say the least. If the Earth shakes during an earthquake, why, many of us are thrown to the ground. So I can imagine that this would be a pretty severe situation. We would probably be flung up against the sides of buildings. Many probably would be killed in this manner. But I believe that before this happens, those who are going to be saved will be saved. We have been promised that they will be picked up before this happens. So each one knows within his own heart whether or not he's pretty sure whether or not he will be picked up prior to the polar flip. I'm told that during the polar flip, we will be directed into safe places or else we will be picked up and then landed afterwards and brought back after the change is over. You know, it tells us that there will be a new heaven in the skies and we will have a new Earth.

And of course, when the waters of the oceans flow over the land areas that are now above water and new land areas which are now underwater appear, well, truly we will have a new world. And then too, if the Earth rolls over on its side and establishes new poles, where we now look up at the North Star, we would be looking up at some other place in the universe. So there would be new heavens overhead. This question says, what is so important about 1967? Well, 1967, of course, is when all these things are predicted to start. Even in Edgar Cayce's writings, he revealed that in 1967, the great world catastrophes would begin to happen that were predicted in the latter part of your Bible in the book called Revelations. It says, why do we never have space people at these meetings? How do you know that

you're not sitting next to one? No, seriously, seriously though,

this party that I told you about with the red hair that has to die, keep the hair dyed black, they are working and living among us. They are associating among us. Maybe they're here tonight. I don't know. I do know that at the last convention over in Los Angeles that Dr. Frank Stranger said, Dr. Frank Stranger's held, there were no less than three persons from another planet present at that meeting. They revealed themselves to several people, several people who talked to these people. And in fact, I talked to them myself, with one of them at least. And these people revealed to certain ones that they were not of this earth. Now, can you imagine what would happen if one of those persons should stand up and say, I'm from Venus, I'm from Mars, I'm from Jupiter. What would happen? Look, let me ask you something. What would happen if the Master Jesus walked in the door and down the aisle right now? How many would believe it was he?

How seriously, how many people would believe it was he? They'd say, just like they said before, imposter. I'm talking about the rank and file. I realize there are a few spiritually evolved Christians here. Who would know intuitively within their heart that it was he. But the space people are not here to create a circus. They're not running a side show. They're here to help us, and they're not going to tell us who they are, but they're going to direct the best help they can to where it'll do the most good. Question. Can you obtain a medical statement regarding your chemical construction? Yes, I can. My doctor that took care of me in the hospital in Long Beach, his name is Dr. Fujikawa. He was a Japanese specialist. Also, Dr. Glugawa, who was another specialist that I had, who lives in San Antone Drive in Long Beach. I believe they would be very, very happy to answer any question in this respect. And perhaps I might go to them.

I never have had occasion to want this. But I see no reason why I couldn't receive this information in writing. And I know very well I could get it from the Navy Department, whom I work for, because they tried no less than six times in one day to x-ray my chest and try to find a set of lungs there, and they couldn't find any. And it has them amazed. And this is a very good question. I think that before I appear before the public again, I will get a statement like this. I had never thought of it, actually. Whoever wrote this, I'm very grateful. I appreciate it. As they have your lungs conditioned now, have they taken you for a ride yet? No, they haven't. No, they haven't. But who knows? They might. I don't know. I haven't been told that they would. I only was told at the time I asked if I was going for one on February the 14th, 1960. They said no. Not at this time. It is not important. Now, this sort of intimated that it might be done at a later date,

but I've never been promised that it would be. And to me, actually, it makes no difference. As long as I do the job that I came here to do, you see, each one not only picks his own parents from the spiritual realm, but he also picks the earthly task he is about to do. And if I have picked the job that I am to do and am doing it to the best of my ability, then it makes no difference to me whether I do go for a ride or not. To go for a ride, you must admit, is rather purely selfish and, you know, just an attitude that you would like to satisfy your ego, you know. Please explain the magnetic reversing principle of the saucers. And how do the people sustain the G-forces originating during direction change? This is a very good question, and the explanation is quite simple. If you have noticed that there are three protuberances underneath most of the pictures of spacecraft that you have seen. Now, when you see a spacecraft

that does not show these three protuberances, they are inside the ship. But these are capacitors or condensers. And by the use of these capacitors or condensers, they can reverse the static charge of the craft and reverse polarity simply by throwing a switch or pushing a button or so forth. I am told that they put out reverse polarity to the Earth's polarity. In other words, the Earth has a negative polarity. So they put out a positive polarity and thus they are pushed away from the Earth. Then if they want to come back toward the Earth, they reverse polarity and the negative, the positive polarity pulls them back toward the negative polarity of the planet by throwing this switching device halfway between instead of having a repelling force or an attracting force, they neutralize this effect. They neither push away nor pull closer. But in this way they remain stationary and this is how they seem to hover so long in one spot.

It has been reported that they have hovered as much as three hours in one place before moving. And even one of our helicopters couldn't do that. How do the people sustain the G-forces originating during direction change? This is the second part of the same question. This also was very simply explained to me and after the explanation it is very easy to understand. The craft puts out a magnetic force field. It also puts out a static charge. The static charge is what is dangerous. This is the charge that is very dangerous to approach one of these ships. Some years back, a sculpt master approached one of them in a swamp in Florida and got severely burned by the static charge of the ship. In many cases the grass,

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the bushes in the area have been scorched and singed in a circular area surrounding the craft by the static charge of high voltage electricity. Now, the force field that the craft puts out

is responsible for the reason that G-strains are not felt within the ship. The reason for this being the spacecraft is a duplicate, you might say, of a planet. The people were wise enough when they built these crafts to duplicate them after the very planets that they live upon. And the Earth, as you well know, has a magnetic field around it. It has a magnetic force field surrounding the Earth. In the center of a magnetic force field you have a gravitational field. Now, Kumar explained to me that electricity, gravity, and magnetism were one and the same thing only manifested three different ways, such as water, ice, and steam. They are all the same thing, but they are manifested in different ways. The molecular construction, the atomic rearrangement is different in each one. But basically they are one and the same thing, apart thereof. And so the craft has a force field around it. In the center of the craft there is a gravitational field.

Now, our Earth has a force field and a gravitational field. We are walking around, we're sitting here, we can balance a cigarette on the edge of a glass and do other things, and the cigarette will not fall off. We sit in a chair, we won't fall off of the chair, and so forth, because gravity holds us where we are. Now, the reason for this being that when you're in a gravity field, from an atomic standpoint, every atom in the molecules, in the electrons, in the cells of your physical matter that your body is constructed of, every atomic particle is reenacted at the same time as all the atoms in the ship itself. In other words, you are part of the ship. You get in an automobile and you step on the gas and suddenly you're lurched backward in the sea. You put on the brakes and you lurch forward in the sea. This is because you are not a part of the automobile. But from an atomic standpoint, the atoms in your body when they're inside

a gravitational field are acted upon at the very same time. You become, from an atomic standpoint, a part of the craft itself. And therefore, terrific speeds or sudden turns, or quick stops, have no effect whatsoever upon the people that's inside this gravity field.

There's three parts to this question. It says here, what are comic patterns? Well, I think this person means what are comic patterns? This is part one of this question. The next part is, what do you base your 360,000 year cycle on? And three, documentation of sun reversing polarity. Well, these are three very good questions. Now, comic patterns, anyone who is not familiar with metaphysical studies or who has not been schooled in the knowledge of what life really is, it is hard for them to understand what a comic pattern is. Perhaps the simplest way to explain that would be to refer back to your Holy Bible where it says, you will pay for in the hereafter what you do here. In other words, if Jesus said, what you reap, you will sow. You sow good, you're going to reap good. You sow bad or evil, you're going to reap the very same thing. If you throw a ball at that wall, it's going to come back and hit you if you throw it hard enough. It's going to bounce

right back at you. And it's just like when you put out an evil thought or an evil deed, it's going to come back and hit you. You're going to pay for it. You might say it's the law of retribution. And this is what is meant by a comic pattern. If you live a life of trying to do everything you can to your fellow man instead of for your fellow man, then you surely have got to pay for this comic action that you put forth. This is what is meant by a comic pattern. And the space people very, very, very definitely tell us that re-embodiment or reincarnation, as many of you have heard it called, is actually a reality. It's a real, actual thing. This is the only thing that you can explain in eternal life. Life is never ending. You never die. You simply throw off the old and you put on the new. You move into a new house. You move into a new temple of play, as Jesus called it. You throw off this old mock-eating, worm-eating body that's so old and decrepit

and full of wrinkles and bald-headed and everything else, and you are reborn into a new vital young being and not necessarily on the same planet. Many of us in other lifetimes have been on other planets but what do you base your 300... I've neglected to ask a question of the audience. Is the boy still here who lives in Pico Riviera? Is the boy still here? You're the one? Is there someone here who goes to the Pico Riviera area that would take this young man somewhere near home? Oh, you want to go to Los Angeles? Is there someone going downtown Los Angeles who would take him? All right. Do you see the young man's hand here? Okay. All right. Thank you, Bogey. What do you base your 360 cycle year on? It says here. I'm not a physicist. I'm not a scientist. The space people have told me that a circle or a cycle has 300 and...

I don't have that with me tonight, but I do have a copy somewhere in my files of a piece that was taken from the Los Angeles Herald Examiner, I believe, about five years ago, stating that our scientists had discovered that the sun had mysteriously and suddenly completely reversed polarity. And I believe that if anyone wants to look it up, they could either write to the Herald Examiner for this information or they could no doubt, get in touch with UCLA or one of the better colleges and universities, and this definitely would be confirmed. Do you believe any sources are coming from the inner earth? I have never been told that sources were coming from the inner earth, but I have good reason to believe that this is entirely possible and very probable. This is a hard question to answer because I don't know, but there are many indications. Because there are so many of these crafts that have been seen around the North and the South Pole,

and it is reported that a number of years back, Admiral Byrd discovered an opening at the poles, and that he flew something like, I believe, 1,700 miles down inside of this opening, and discovered therein a beautiful land of tropical vegetation, lakes, rivers, forests, and huge animals roaming around. But it's very possible that some of these sources do come from this area. What language do the people of Pluto speak? Well, I have never talked to anyone in their language from Pluto. They have always spoken to me. Everyone I have contacted has spoken to me in perfect English. They told me that languages was of no problem because these people are masters at mental telepathy. And this has proven to me the very first contact. I had questions answered to me before I could form the words in my lips. I wanted to ask a question, and before I could form the words in my lips, the answer came back just like that. It was answered by mental telepathy.

And they know exactly what you're thinking, what you're going to say. They have been monitoring our radio and our TV broadcasts, ever since we've had radio and TV, and they have been among us for many, many years. As you recall, I told you that the Indian boy was contacted at the age of 16. The man is now up in the 70s. So the space people have been around a long, long time. They came down and they took Elijah up. They've been here a long, long time. They used to walk among the American Indians and teach them many things. So evidently they had to talk in the Indian language at that time. When they land in Italy, do they speak Italian? Yes, most certainly they do. Where or how did these people master the earthly languages? Well, I think I've already explained that. With today's massive computer, red tape, where everyone is catalogued by numbers, birth certificates, social security numbers and so forth, how are these 800,000 people

able to be absorbed into schools and city life to take care of their families and their families and their families and their families and their families and their families and their families and their families and their families and their families in particular in the United States? Well, this is a normal question and a very good question, but how many passports, how many birth certificates, how many different documents are in circulation today? I've seen ID cards that sailors use in the Navy Department to go in and buy liquor and the boy was only 16 or 17 years old and he had a perfect ID card that stated he was over 21. So I don't think this is any problem. This is at all Another thing, too, these people are capable of, and this I know, they could show you a document, and to you, the document would read the way that they wanted it to read, to your eyes.

Now, this may sound fantastic, but they can do this. So as far as this type of identification, they wouldn't have any trouble. Where is Prince Niasam today? I wish I knew. I don't know. I haven't seen or heard from him for several years. Last I heard, he was down near San Diego someplace, and from then, as far as I'm concerned, he's disappeared. I don't know where he is. Are they sending three-inch disks at this time? Well, I don't know about three-inch disks, but I do know that disks have been seen here about 18 inches in diameter.

And these are mostly remote-controlled disks that are sent down for monitoring thought patterns, taking photographs, sampling air, so forth and so on.

I also was told by the Indian that there are many, many planets throughout the universe that are very tiny.

And when I mean tiny, we'll say that they're a mile or so in diameter. And on these small planets that are only a mile in diameter or so, perhaps most of us will say that they're a mile or so in diameter. Some of our scientists call them asteroids and figure they're completely void of life. But on some of these tiny planets, there is life. And it is of a human nature, but these people are very tiny. And the ships that they come in are extremely tiny also. There was a report in a fake magazine several years ago where a lady was sitting at her sewing machine

doing some sewing one afternoon with the... window open, the screen was out. And as she sat there sewing, she heard a buzzing sound like some bees or something. And she looked around, and here was a small disk-shaped object that's glittered in the sun as if it was highly polished aluminum coming in through the open window. It came and it hovered over her sewing machine. And as she jumped back in amazement, it suddenly took off. And she swore by all that was holy, that she saw a tiny face peering through a porthole. Now, this... If you are going to say, well, this sounds ridiculous. I know. It sounds ridiculous, but... Let's go a step further here. If the Creator, in His infinite wisdom, is capable of creating big things, is He not also capable of creating smaller things? I have a friend over in Los Angeles. His name is Danny Morellis. I don't see him here tonight. He's at most of the meetings. And my wife and I was visiting Danny one Sunday,

and his mother came out from a little house that adjoins Danny's house, the backyard, and then between the two houses, there's a garage. And she came out, and she told us that several days before this, she had gone out to water some flowers that were growing low. Alongside the garage. She heard a buzzing noise. She looked up, and she saw a small object, no larger than a foot or so in diameter, coming down between the house and the garage. It came down, hovered over her head briefly, and then took off in a flash and disappeared in just a few seconds. She said it sounded like a bunch of bees humming. Well, this is interesting because the report that came over the paper here, in the paper here a few days ago, the... police chief who chased this object down the road for, I think, 83 miles, at times up to, speeds up to 107 miles an hour. He took the photographs with the Air Force request that he not release the public.

He said that this object had the sound of a transformer humming. And this is exactly what they sound like. They have a pulsating, droning sound as if a generator or a transformer was humming.

How did... How do these spacecraft work? This is a wonderful question. I was told that the spacecraft is a wheel within a wheel, a wheel in the middle of a wheel. You read this in your scriptures. In reality, it is a flying electric motor or generator. Now, an electric motor as we know it, we anchor the most... one of the most important parts down to a base, and we keep it stationary. This is the frame which contains the... the field coils. And the rotor or the armature which rotates inside of these field coils, rotates in a given direction depending upon the way that it is wound and the way that the brushes set up in the case of a DC motor. And we throw a belt around the shaft coming out of this armature, and this is where we get a paw. Now, a spacecraft, we allow the armature to turn one direction, the field coil goes in the other direction. We have two counter-rotating forces, one going one way, one going the other way.

And I was told that when these two counter-rotating forces reach an RPM equivalent with the speed of the Earth itself, and in direct relation, getting back to Einstein theory, in direct relation with its mass, it cancels gravity due to the fact that it puts out magnetic lines of force which repel, magnetic lines of force, which the Earth puts out, and it becomes weightless. Let's see, in the second part of this question, also, are all the people's hair red? No, uh-oh. No, the man Kumar has brown hair, has light brown hair, curly hair, blue eyes, and looks much the same as anybody who might walk in this room at any moment. He's about 5'10", medium build, very pleasant features. And as I say, he has brown hair. Depending upon where they come from, the coloring of the hair, I presume. How are we able to communicate with, how are they able to communicate with Earth people, I guess?

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Do the children or the family from Pluto realize they are living on a strange planet? Well, it says, how are they able to communicate with Earth people? They communicate with Earth people, the same as we communicate with each other. They talk our language. This is no problem. They speak English language. These kids, three of them, are going to a Los Angeles school. Do the children or the family from Pluto realize they are living on a strange planet? Yes, very definitely. They were brought here. They are youngsters, but they were of school age, and they're very brilliant. They have to be coached almost daily to make mistakes so they won't look so much different than other children. And they very definitely know that they're on a strange planet, and they have to be trained. taught to act accordingly why do these space people seem only to contact believers well uh this is a good question but it almost answers itself uh would they be apt to contact people who

didn't believe and who would run away from them and hide or pick up a gun and shoot at them it's only necessary it's only natural that they would contact believers i'll tell you one thing if you ever contact one and you weren't a believer it'll make one out of you your something

rather i can't make out the word on the polarity of the earth and sun seems to contradict all that is taught in school this is fine and uh and uh i'm well aware that many many many things are taught in our schools today that are not taught wrongly because they're intended to but because they don't know any different i can recall when i was a child that if i had a pain down here on my side they'd say oh go and put a hot water bag on it put hot put heat on it right away quick now they have completely reversed that theory and they say by no means apply heat apply a cold pack put ice cubes on it so you see how their various viewpoints change from time to time and they are beginning to learn many many things now that they never knew before new textbooks new science books have to be written how did the family from space

get children registered for school without birth certificates i think this has been explained in one of the other questions that to get certificates of any kind i don't think it'd be any problem at all because i firmly believe that they could put a blank piece of paper in front of anybody's eyes and project the thought into this person's mind and he would read on that card on that blank card exactly what they wanted him to read on it uh reverend uh

rose or something is a seer and psychic and said that in uh august of 1966 an earthquake would hit

california and washington and start the change of the california coastline as we know as we know it would uh be the beginning of the catastrophic upheavals i think this person means that these

things were supposed to happen this it was supposed to happen in 1966 in uh oh yes in august well august isn't here yet let's wait until august of 1966 and maybe this

maybe it will be the beginning of it but it's so far predicted 1967. are the universal laws the same as religious uh same as religious teachers religion teachers and if not what are they so we can start obeying them a question but they have 12 basic universal laws they told me that our man moses received 10 of these laws but actually there are 12 universal laws and if we live the 10 we know if we live them right to the ladder we would never need any other laws

whom i said that there are so many laws and they are all man-made laws they're not god's laws we have single laws county laws federal laws laws upon laws to live one law is to break another law

they're so conflicting and they can't understand why we should have all these laws if we live the 10 basic laws that we know are the 10 commandments they directly or indirectly relate to every single thing that we can think of directly indirectly you'd never need any other laws but those 10 lived in accordingly i've got a few more here and then we'll let you go home how does the rapture

spoken of in the bible compare with the evacuation contemplated by space people at the time of the reverse of polarity well i think it's uh it's quite uh definitely states in there i recall a passage where it says it tells about the earthquakes that will happen and the great storms and tidal waves the ocean shall roar and it very definitely says and those that are left

those who are left will be caught up and taken into the clouds now how are they going to be caught up i've already explained that they can be taken up by the transistor beam which nullifies gravity and picks them up according to the physical aura surrounding their body if the physical aura matches the uh uh the beam that is sent down to pick them up they will be taken up how are the g forces overcome and maneuvering the craft uh this has already been explained also the mormon lds religion maintains that ufos might be the return of the lost tribe as they as they uh as there is there any comment on this uh the only thing i could say in this respect is that uh many of these people coming here today have been here before many of them lived on lemuria many of them lived on atlantis and they are coming here today and it very well might be that uh what they

call members of the lost tribe are returning i haven't specifically been told this but it it very well could be it makes good sense explain relationship uh my one of the most favorite things about this example is that the uh the naw that i used to do on the left is that the takara were they arrange for the

and so on and so on and so on again so i have one thing i wanted to say when i was when the apes first saw this i was struck by this and this is what it is the horseshoe magnets and have put them together so that they are facing each other with opposite poles you notice they will jump together like poles they

will be repelled away from one another now how can you measure the speed that these two magnets jump together the only way to measure it the only way you can can judge it is by the amount of magnetism applied in other words the more magnetism you apply the faster it goes now we all know that our automobiles go faster the more we push down on the gas pedal the faster it goes up to a point it has a limit but i am told that where magnetism is applied in outer space where there is no friction there is no such thing as a limit there is practically no limit whatsoever to the speed depending on the speed of the magnetism upon the amount of magnetism that they can apply but they are limited in a in a sense they can only apply so much but if they were able to apply and keep applying and applying and applying then there would absolutely be no limit whatsoever it would probably as i say be the speed of thought how many languages

spoken per planet this i don't know i haven't been told how many languages i speak per planet but i'm sure that if they can come here and speak all of our languages that any language would be no barrier and furthermore on many of the planets they don't even use language as such they use thought transference they are versed at in mental telepathy to the extent where they hardly ever need to speak with one another our civilizations on other planets underground or on the surface they are both on some of our planets they do live in underground places there are underground cities on the moon there are underground cities on mars and many of the planets they do live underground and also on the surface what do they eat i like honey sweet what then what are or can do about eating meat that's the way it's written well... As I said before, they don't like to eat meat because an animal is a spiritual thing, the same as we are.

An animal has a karmic pattern, the same as we do. And they don't like to interrupt the natural karmic pattern of the living spiritual being. This is why they don't like eating meat, unless they absolutely have to. If they have to do it because they're hungry, this is quite a different thing. But the fact that going out deliberately killing, just for the sheer joy of killing, this is unthinkable. And it says here, what do they eat? They eat a great amount of nuts, vegetables, fruits, and nuts. I've got just a few more, and then we're through. What type of culture exists on other planets? I can assure you that culture exists on the other planets far greater than we could ever even dream of. For one thing, they don't have a money system that we have. And whenever something is discovered or invented, it is immediately put out for the good of all to participate. And to enjoy. For example, I am told that upon each person's birth,

he is allotted one of these spacecraft to do with as he sees fit for his entire existence. He doesn't have to go out and buy an automobile like we do, and in a couple of years he finds it's all worn out and he has to buy another one. They don't use a money system as we do. They use brotherly love. They work for each other for sheer joy. Personal love for humanity and for all mankind and for their creator. They do not use money. What are space people so selective in contacting... Why are space people so selective in contacting Earth beings? Let me ask you a question. This is a very good question. I'd like to ask you a question in tense. If we are going to some other place, to the moon or to Venus or some other place, we're going to send men up there, are we going to try to contact people who would be receptive to our coming, or are we going to try to contact people who are going to turn guns on us and shoot at us

and keep us away? I think this answers itself, this question. Why are they selective? They know intuitively, they know telepathically whom they can depend on to work for them and to work with them. And so this is no... There should be no... There should be no mystery about this. Well, we have four more questions here. How so if the treaty number is provided for those space people? I think that's already been answered. You said that your lungs were conditioned to other planets' atmosphere. Did you go to one? No. From where come cigar-shaped ships? Lately, we hear only the saucer-shaped. Formerly, we had... We had claims cited cigars and saucer-shaped. Tell about the cigar-shaped thing. The cigar-shaped ships are the mother craft, and they're usually so far out into space that we don't even see them. We see the saucers because they are sent out from the motherships. They come here, and they go back out to the motherships.

The motherships are not coming in so close. Are there any people from other planets present at this meeting? I don't feel that there are at this time. I have been here in this very hall when I did feel that there were people present from other planets, but tonight I haven't had this feeling. So I guess this ends it, and as a passing thought, I want to say God bless you all. Thank you for coming, and as a passing thought, just listen to this little message that was received telepathically. If a day passes in the life of a man that he has not learned something, then indeed this day is truly wasted. Thank you, and God bless you.