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1959 September 4th Giant Rock George Hunt Williamson P22

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and Giant Rock introduction
• [06:00] George Hunt Williamson's main address
• [55:00] Development of Williamson's themes
• [01:40:00] Audience questions and discussion
• [02:00:00] Closing remarks

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[00:00] Opening remarks and Giant Rock introduction

All of the rest of the time with Rick. Thank you. I'm going to stand up for a moment, and then I'm going to sit down. Good. Are we close enough for your microphone? I think so. I'd like to make a request, too, that you bathe this 37 Dodge out here in your love and radiations as well. It's in much worse shape than I am. Actually, it's a car that was loaned to me by Hope Troxell's son, Pete. And if I hadn't had that, I'd have had to walk, so it's much better than walking. But I'm anxious to get my own car back, of course. Before we start this evening, I want to mention, most of you are familiar with my books. I'm not going to describe them. But I do want to mention that Secret Places of the Lion, which probably some of you have read, is... It's becoming rather difficult to get. There are less than 100 copies still available in London. And I guess distributors in this country just won't be getting more. We don't know if we're going to do another edition because of the printing strike that's been on over two months in England.

And we don't know. We've done two editions, and we don't know if we can do a third edition or not because of this strike. So if you are interested in it or you have friends, why, please have them see me, because my publisher is giving me sort of a priority on these last copies. Also, my newest book, Road in the Sky, which is a book of the South American explorations of the last three years,

with many, many photographs and drawings, is just out in London. It's just come out. And also, that has been printed in a very limited edition due to this printing strike. And the publisher told me that to help me on this tour, he would fill my orders taken during the lecture tour before he would mail to distributors. The distributors probably won't get the books for two or three months. But you could get the book in about ten days or two weeks at the most if you get it from me. So if you're interested in those, why, you can see me on it. Also, some of you have asked if there are any Talonic research bulletins left, and these really have been out of print for three years, I thought. And recently, when I went into my storage things, I found another small box of them. And when these are gone, of course, then they will be gone. And there's a set of three here. They're all different. And they incorporate many articles that I have never put into books.

And so, while they are old, it's not like a Newsweek magazine that goes out of date. The articles are of a timelessness, really. And if you're interested, why, you might want to take some of those as well. This is, as Mrs. Forrester said, a special meeting because we're going to be discussing some things that I have felt never could be given publicly before. And I don't mean to imply that it's... some great secret that I thought I couldn't share with the public, or that it's some information that's too deep that couldn't be shared, because I'm always a little bit suspicious of people that have a great secret that could help us, but they never tell us what it is. It's not that sort of thing at all. But it's information that I was not convinced of yet myself. In fact, in order to tell this, I will have to give some information tonight that I feel is vital to it, and yet I'm not too convinced myself of it.

About a third of the lecture tonight I'm not sure of, and I don't like to give anything to the public unless I'm convinced of it myself. I will mention those things to you as we go along, telling you what I'm not convinced of yet myself. I have called the lecture, Coming World Changes. Perhaps some of you immediately feel that this might have something to do with great earthquakes and disasters or the tilting axis or shifting poles or something. It's not really that at all, but it has to do with coming world changes, as they affect us as individuals, physically, mentally, and spiritually. And of course, since we comprise the world, why, they are coming world changes. Also, this information has come from many different sources. Some of it is from scientific discoveries, which have absolutely nothing to do, really, with unidentified flying objects. Other information comes from many different researchers that we believe have had authentic contacts,

such as, for instance, a phrase one time that Dan Fry received in a communication, or George Van Tassel, or somebody here and someone there. Now, most of the time this evening, because I feel most of you have already read a great deal in this field, I'm not going to mention who received this information, because, as I say, it's just a sentence here and a sentence there, but when you put all of these things together, a very startling picture emerges, and that's what we want to try to find this evening. For some years, I have been rather suspicious of two things. Two things that developed in my own mind because of certain things the UFO intelligences have said during the past 10 or 12 years. One thing is, I have felt for a long time that they have never told us the real reason why they're here. Now, of course, there are many reasons. I don't mean to imply either that I'm going to give you the great secret this evening,

because I don't think anybody has the great secret, but I feel that perhaps we'll get a little bit closer to the reason. Of course, again, there are many, side reasons why. The other part, which is really related to the first, is that I have been quite suspicious that the UFOs want and indeed need something from us. Now, perhaps you're going to say, what in heaven's name could they get from us? No, they don't want our gold or silver or our uranium mines or anything of the kind. I'm certain it's not for trade purposes. And this might sound a bit contradictory, but I feel that this is not a material thing. That it is spiritual, and yet it is in the earth itself. Now, this lecture this evening is divided into about five sections,

[06:00] George Hunt Williamson's main address

each one apparently dealing with something totally unrelated to the other four. But as we move along, you'll see that they're not. The first section that I'm going to talk about, for the first five or ten minutes, you might be lost. You won't know where we are. But it's rather a difficult lecture to get into, and if you're lost and rather confused, why, don't worry about it, because the picture will clear as we move along. I want to start, and I'm going to sit down now, if I may. I'm going to start by going back to July 20th, 1958, last year.

Are you all right? Yes, something's in my bag. I'm going to move over here. I can't speak if somebody's at my back. It does something to me. I'll get out of here. I don't want to do anything. I just tried to overcome that, and it was getting me, so. I'm going to get over here. That's terrible, Roberta, to run you out of your comfortable chair. It's a funny thing. I never have been able to. I was trying to overcome it the last few seconds, but I couldn't. See, your vibrations are too high. It's bothering me. We had just completed, at this time,

Road in the Sky, which I wrote in Peru last year, and the book I've been telling you about. I just finished the final typing, but I didn't have time to do a final proofreading of the book, final corrections, so I placed the manuscript under my arm, and I started for my trip to Brazil and Europe. I hoped that as I got on the planes and the trains and so forth, I would have plenty of time to proofread the book, before I got it to the publisher in London, and which I was able to do. But as I crossed from Recife, Brazil, to Dakar, French West Africa, I got out the book and I started to read, and I came to a page in the manuscript that contained a formula that I had worked out, and also just a few notes on what we're going to talk about this evening in some detail. But at that time, I didn't have as much information on it, or it hadn't come together in my mind as well as it has now, and it still hasn't come together too well,

but enough to talk about it anyway. And I didn't put too much about this then in the book itself, just a few references. Now this is the part where you're going to be lost for just a moment, but stick with me and it'll all clear up. As I came to this page, I started to meditate on it, and other things came to me, things that had been said in the past, and things that I started to remember, that I could have added to the book, but at the time, these things didn't come to me. And as I was thinking along these lines, suddenly, everything was in place. It's just like one moment, you can't see the puzzle, and with the last piece in the puzzle, you make sense out of it and you know what the picture is. And I thought, good heavens, is this, is the picture that I'm getting a true picture? If it is, it's a very terrible picture, but at the same time, a very wonderful picture. And it's that picture that we'll mainly be discussing,

or coming to conclusions about, this evening. Now, I want you to remember that. I'll go back to it, this formula and the page of the book. Later on, of course, I went on to Africa and Portugal. And when I came to Italy, I had two lectures in Rome. And after the first lecture, in fact, it was outside like this at a hotel, four men came up to me. And they didn't introduce themselves, very distinguished-looking men, and they said, when are you coming to Naples? And I said, well, I've already been to Naples. I really can't go back again because I'm two weeks behind my schedule and I have to move north and go to Germany and so on. I can't go to Naples because it meant going back south again. And they didn't say anything at all. They just looked at me very intently and said, when are you coming to Naples? Well, I can't explain to you even yet why I answered the way I did. Of course, from the story I'm going to tell you,

it's obvious why I had to go to Naples. You'll find out in a few moments. But at that time, of course, I had no idea and they didn't say anything. So I really can't tell you why. And it's another reason you can't do this publicly because I'm not the kind of person that hears or sees things. But I had a very strong feeling that I had to go. So he looked... By the way, this one professor that I learned later was a professor, I'm getting ahead of myself, this one man spoke perfect English. Another man there understood English quite well but couldn't speak it and the other two spoke only Italian. So the one always acted as the spokesman of the group in talking to me. And he looked me right in the eyes and he said, when are you coming to Naples? And I looked him in the eyes and said, I'll leave for Naples in the morning. And I can't tell you why, but I went. And when I got there, I found out these four men are professors at the University of Naples.

When we went out to their home, the home of the one who spoke English, he is also sort of the leader of the group, they told me that some years ago they had purchased my book The Saucers Speak, which was the first book in Italian on the UFOs. And they read about the radio communications. Well, these men believed in UFOs because they knew of reliable reports in Italy and elsewhere, and so they believed the objects existed, but they didn't believe everything that was being said about them. But anyway, they bought the book. They didn't believe it. They thought it was a good story, but that's about all. And, however, in the months that followed, quite often the possibility of radio communication came up in their discussions, because one of the members of the group is a radio man with the university. And finally he said, well, listen, we don't know if this book is true or not. We've always said that we didn't believe it,

but even if it isn't true, we believe in UFOs, and certainly maybe it's possible to communicate with them. So why don't we try radio? It doesn't matter whether this book is true or not. It hasn't changed our mind about the UFOs at all. And so they attempted communication by radio telegraphy. They had absolutely no success whatsoever for a long period of time. It went on for several months, and they would get discouraged and stop, and then they would continue again. Finally, they claimed that they were able to establish contact by radio telegraphy, and they had ample proof that they were in communication with outer space intelligences. Then they were requested to place a television set with their radio equipment in connection with it, and they told me that two or three times for just a short period of time, maybe 10 or 20 seconds, they received flashes from what they believed to be the interior of the ships directly onto the TV screen.

Then they had a third form of communication, which was by ordinary telephone. They would be having a meeting and the telephone would ring. They were told that the voice on the telephone did not have to be placed through a switchboard, but could be placed directly into the telephone itself. The second evening, when I was there two days and two nights, the second evening we met again at the band's home, this professor's home, and they were showing me books, documentary information that they have accumulated. Quite often during their communications the UFOs showed up at the same time, and they took photographs, and they have a great deal of material. And I said, Well, why haven't you said anything about it yet? And they said, Because of our connection with the university, we have revealed nothing. But we feel now that we have ample proof, and we're going to reveal shortly. I said, Well, how are you going to do that? Are you going to write a book or what?

And the man who speaks English says, No. He said, No, because I speak English, I'm going to come to the United States and give this information. I'm sure you'll all be hearing about him before long. At least that's the last information that I've had. But while we were there the second evening, now again I can't tell you how I knew. I still don't know that. But the telephone rang. And I don't know, but I knew there was going to be something on the telephone. This spokesman of the group went over and answered the telephone.

And I could tell by the look on his face and the way he moved his hands and all that there was something on the phone. And he motioned for me to come over. Well, I speak Spanish, but I only understand a few words in Italian. It was very fast Italian anyway. And I really didn't understand what was being said. But before I tell you what was said, at least the most important part of it, I want to say something about the voice. The voice was in Italian, but with a very peculiar metallic sound to it. And I had heard this voice before, once in the United States and also later, after this experience, of course, in England. These times, the two times outside of the Italian experience, of course, the voice was in English. Always in perfect English. And the first time I heard it was in 1952 when our radio man in Arizona, one time only, had radio telephone contact, that is, with voice. The rest of the time it was code. And the voice was, well, it sounded non-human.

The nearest way I could describe it would be something like this. Hello, how are you? Something like that. Yes. And it sounded something like a robot. Something that we would imagine as a robot. Mechanical. And the radio man told me that, he could tell that the code itself, too, was sent by a mechanical transmitter. I said, how do you know? He said, well, I can tell by the code, I can tell by the speed, and I can tell by the spacing between each of the words that this is a mechanical transmitter, not a human transmitter. Not a human operator behind it. And he said, that's nothing. We have mechanical transmitters ourselves, so certainly they could have such things. But he said, I'm certain that it's not a human being behind it. And he then came up with this idea, which, of course, we have no way of knowing. This is just a guess. But he said, possibly they have some kind of a voice translator. They can either think or speak

into this device, whatever that might be, and it comes out any language or code or anything that they wish. Of course, it sounds fantastic. But UFOs themselves are fantastic, and if they have transportation in advance of our own, why, certainly their communication. is also in advance of our own. So, they could have something like that. Again, then, I heard this in England. There's a young blind musician called Philip Rogers that I talked with while I was in England last year. And he quite accidentally at first received some very strange sounds and code on his tape recorder in voices. Voices in an unknown language. And later, hoping to find out what these were, where they were coming from, he placed his equipment in soundproof rooms. And even the chief engineer of the BBC has been in on some of these Philip Rogers experiments. You've probably read about him in Flying Saucer Review or heard about him elsewhere. I'm sure many of you have.

But again, the voice was the same voice I heard on Philip Rogers tapes. I won't say exactly the same source, but the same sounding voice, that same metallic and mechanical sound. And again, it was the same thing in Italy. So I asked him, the professor, by the way, he said, this is perfect Italian. And I said, how perfect? He said, well, so perfect that no Italian has ever spoken it so well. He said, it is absolutely perfect textbook Italian. But he says, yet I know it's not an Italian speaking it because there's this peculiar accent which no Italian would ever have. But grammatically and so on, it is absolutely perfect. Then he said, I said, well, what's being said? Can you tell me? And he said, well, the voice keeps repeating over some words which make absolutely no sense to me whatsoever, or some letters. He said, it sounds like some sort of a formula. And I said, well, what is it? He just kept telling me, I don't know, it doesn't make sense.

And I said, well, what is it? He said, well, the voice is saying, E-L equals I-T-H. Well, I almost fell off my seat sitting next to him because this is exactly the formula that I put in my book. And no one had seen the manuscript, yet not even my wife. Of course, it's just a formula that I made up in my own mind. And unless you know what each of the letters stand for, well, you don't understand what the formula is. I made it up to explain something in the book. So if I'd had any doubts before about these men, and I really didn't because everything seemed to be absolutely honest and sincere, I certainly was convinced at this point because these men could not possibly know anything about the E-L equals I-T-H. Then, five words were given afterwards. After the E-L equals I-T-H, they gave five words. Now, I'm going to go back, before I go on with that for just a moment, back to the time of crossing the Atlantic in the airplane.

Remember that I mentioned two parts when I looked at the book, two different things. First of all, the formula on the page, E-L equals I-T-H. And secondly, those things that I began to think about in connection with the E-L equals I-T-H. So there are two things. One thing that was placed in the book that no one knew about but myself, which was in writing, however. And the second thing was thoughts that came out of this that I had never even put on paper or discussed with anyone. First of all, by saying E-L equals I-T-H, they were showing me that they were aware of this formula in the book that no one had seen. But with the next five words, they were showing me not only did they know that, but they knew what I was thinking about in crossing the Atlantic, something I had never put in a book at all. They then said, formula, referring to the E-L equals I-T-H, they said, formula of our ancient wish. Now the startling fact that came to me,

the startling fact that is going to, that the entire talk this evening hinges upon, it came to me then as I crossed the Atlantic, you know, as they say, a light suddenly went on or the curtain went up or something. And suddenly, all of these things that I had never understood before, the little statements that they had made in the past in various contexts began to make sense. They suddenly all tumbled in upon each other. Remember I told you that I've been suspicious for some time that the UFOs want and indeed need something from us on Earth. So many people say, well, what could they want from us? The Earth, isn't the Earth the garbage can of the universe? Well, a diamond ring can be lost in the garbage can too, remember. And there might be something very wonderful here. In the past, in various contexts, the UFO intelligences have said, we could be envious of the Earth. Notice they don't say they are, but they say we could be. They have also said

on numerous occasions, there is a great legacy on the Earth. Don't feel that you have nothing because the Earth is very, very important. And that is one reason why we have such interest in it, that there is a legacy upon the Earth that is important not only for man on Earth, but also for us. So it's these things that came together that finally made me ask certain questions in my own mind. So by saying, formula of our ancient wish, they were letting me know that was correct. And we'll discuss that more as we go along this evening. Now I'm going to leave that section and go to the second section. What you'll have to do as we leave each section, you'll have to think of it as a thread and then you have to start weaving these different threads together toward the end of the talk this evening. Now the second section, I don't know if it's true or not. It's a terribly good story. So you'll be entertained and if it isn't true, why you haven't lost very much.

But I'm not too convinced of it completely. In some of its aspects, yes. But this is a story that as I tell it to you this evening, it will sound like someone just sat down and wrote it off, like it comes from one source, but it doesn't. Some of it does come from our communications of some years ago. Some of it also comes from, well, like I said before, Dan Fry's work, Van Tassel's work, and many different people. A statement said here and a statement said there in order to bring out this story. I want you to know that now before I tell it because it just sounds like it comes off so easily and that someone just sat down and wrote it. But it took a lot of bringing together before we got this picture. So believe it if you will or don't believe it. It doesn't make much difference. But I feel we must add it tonight because somehow it irritates me a little bit because it is almost the key to the whole thing. And I suppose I'll have to accept

all of it too before very long. Anyway, in 1952 to begin with, when we weren't as yet convinced of the radio communications that our radio man was having, he was certain at this point that he was not in communication with amateur hoaxers because of various, for various reasons which we won't go into this evening, but he was convinced of that. But yet he wasn't convinced that this was coming from outer space or from space intelligences. And I was, none of us were convinced to that extent yet. So we all thought along the line of our own background and we thought of various questions to ask to stump those who were sending us these messages. And I asked several questions that no anthropologist has ever been able to answer. I will say that their questions were always satisfactory. I won't say that they told everything or the secrets of the universe or anything, but their questions were always, I would say, satisfactory. First of all, I asked the question,

what is the origin of man on the earth? Is there really a missing link? It's a good question. Nobody really knows. The answer was, yes, there is a missing link on earth, but you will never find it because it is spiritual, not organic, which I think is rather interesting. Then I also asked, because you know as men we like to know, we like to have dates, we like to know how long ago a certain thing was, we like to have a name for it. So I said, what was the first intelligence on the planet earth? They came back immediately and said, well, we will have to answer that by asking you a question. What do you mean by intelligence? They said, you see, we feel that all the kingdoms, mineral, vegetable and animal and all of them are intelligent. And then I remembered various beliefs held by North American Indians and native people throughout the world, and that is, they believe that even a rock has a soul. Of course, not a soul like a man has,

but they believe everything is living. And then in this message, the space intelligence has said, we feel that nothing is inanimate. Everything is animate. So what do you mean by intelligence? When was the first intelligence on the earth? So I rephrased the question and I said, when was the first civilization building intelligence on the earth? Because a monkey doesn't build a pyramid and neither does a tulip or a rock. Only man builds a pyramid. So I said, what was the first civilization building intelligence on the earth? The answer was rather interesting. They said, a long time ago. Well, immediately, I wanted to know what they meant by a long time ago. A thousand years or a million or what? And they said, well, if you must have a date, and we do like to have dates, you know, and that's where we're usually wrong. But anyway, they said, if you must have a date, we would say somewhere around a thousand million years ago, which would be a billion.

Now, it's, that struck me rather odd at first, but it is absolutely conceivable. I remember when I was in school, they were saying the earth was three or four billion years old. A few years ago, it went to five or six, and the other day I read, they think it's seven to nine somewhere, seven to nine billion years old. It increases all the time. But if that's true, certainly our knowledge of history only goes back five or eight thousand years. Our knowledge of prehistory doesn't do much better. And a billion years ago, we could have had intelligence on the earth that disappeared after being here, say, for several million years. And of course, now all vestiges are removed from the surface of the planet. We wouldn't know anything about it at all. It's possible. I grant you it doesn't seem very probable, but it's entirely possible. Remember, again, I'm just telling you a story. I'm not telling you whether I believe it or not. These, they said,

yes, a long time ago, about this time, a billion years ago, there was a group of beings, and we call them beings because they were not human. They were in the form of man. They were in the form of a human being. They were in the form of a human being. They were like man, but they were not human. They stood about 12 feet tall. And they are called the planet preparers. I don't know exactly why, but they're supposed to go from planet to planet in space and prepare it for later inhabitation by man or other intelligences. And we were also told that they lived under the earth or in the earth. I don't feel that this has any connection whatsoever with Shakespeare's Deroes or any of the other stories, Little Green Man and what have you. But they're supposed to have lived in areas like Carlsbad Cavern. I don't mean they lived in Carlsbad Cavern, but areas like that, to shield them from some rays that were coming from our sun or cosmic ray bombardment

that would have disturbed them if they lived on the surface. It's rather curious too, I think, that in the Bible we find that there were giants in the earth in those days. It doesn't say on the earth. It says in the earth. Of course, maybe there's no connection but there may be. And this evening we will be bringing in these little facets in an attempt to develop our story. After being here, well, first, before I mention that, we were told that these beings, the constructed cities, if you could call them cities, I have no idea if they were like ours or not, underground, but they also had areas they called libraries or the library. Quite different than our libraries because they had no books in them. But they would be great areas of magnetic fields or resonating electromagnetic energy and they would take a crystal cube about the size of a sugar cube and they would step into this magnetic field. They would place the cube to their forehead

and in a matter of seconds they would transfer the several thousand items of information stored within the small cube to their own mind or being and step out again, of course, which is nice if you can do it. But very often I have heard sensitives. In the world who will tell you, well, I got that at the library or a little bird told me or picked it up at the Red Brick Schoolhouse or something. I've heard that used quite often. Perhaps they have picked it up from the library more than they realize. It's very possible that certain sensitives, I feel, could get in tune with these ancient libraries of these beings and thereby learn certain information. It would be similar to the Akashic Record type of thing in a way. I'm grateful for being here a certain length of time. Again, we don't know how long. They didn't say this time. But they were here for a long period of time and they finally developed to what was called the seventh level of spiritual awareness.

Now, in the next few phrases I'm going to give you the exact words that were used because I don't understand them completely by any means. And every time I give this and I've only given it a few times now, I find that people who attend are able to add some things to it and bring more to it, so maybe you will also receive them because I just don't understand all of these phrases but I'll give them exactly as they were given. We were told that they developed to the seventh condition or the seventh level of spiritual awareness. And this seventh level meant that they were able to create by positive thinking. That they were able to project to any part of the planet in any intensity and density at any time they wished solid matter merely through the thinking process. They then went on to the next stage of development which was the eighth level of spiritual awareness. And this eighth level was called the theta universe. Of course theta is the Greek eight.

The theta universe then is also called the energy universe or the thought universe. In other words, they were able to conquer what we call M-E-S-T or matter, energy, space, and time. Perhaps you will say, well couldn't they conquer matter, energy, space, and time by all getting together and shoot each other or kill themselves? They certainly would change dimensions and go into a different vibration. And why did they have to go through all this trouble? Well actually, friends, you see they would not have. Because if they had done that they would still be on what we call the wheel of life. They would not have escaped the necessity of physical incarnation by doing away with themselves. In fact, they probably would have increased their chances of staying longer in physical matter because by taking their own life there would be much karmic responsibility and they would probably be bound on the wheel of life even longer through this action. If we pass away tonight

we have not escaped the necessity of returning to physical matter. We must evolve to the point where we get out of it spiritually. So they couldn't have done it by racial suicide. They had to evolve to that point. They had to evolve to the point where they could do it. Now we asked how did they do it? Of course, naturally, we wanted to know how they did this. And we were told but we didn't learn any more after we were told or didn't know any more. But we were told that they accomplished this by going through a 90 degree phase shift. Now I don't know or have any idea what that means but a 90 degree phase shift P-H-A-S-E. We also then asked what was the name of these beings? You see, we want to have a name for them. If we had no name in the English language it would make any sense to us at all because these beings did not converse with each other in voice as we do. Of course, immediately we said did they do it by telepathy? We were told no, at least not

at the time that they were upon the earth. But that they used a very peculiar series of clicking sounds in the mouth. And we were told then that this was similar but not identical to some of the Bantu people of Africa. The Bantu people of Africa, a very large cultural group, they do not use words in conversation at all. They use a clicking sound in the mouth. They do not form words. And we were told this was similar, this type of conversation or communication was similar to the Bantu people. So they could give us no word but they said what we can do is give you a word which really is not a name for these people or beings but is a symbol of their entry into the thought universe going through this ninety degree phase shift. And we were told that this was a symbol of how they entered the theta universe. E-L-apostrophe-S or just simply L-apostrophe-S. And of course you can immediately see the connection because a ninety degree angle is an L. So it is the symbol

of how they entered the theta universe. Also we were told or asked rather were we familiar with the stories and legends of the elder race that at one time existed upon the earth. Of course we have all heard of the elders and how they were giant beings and so forth who lived in the earth. We were told that this was the same race and they could be called elders before they went into the thought universe which means Ls defined or that these beings had physical definition. When they lost that and no longer needed to come back into physical matter or be controlled by it then they were simply called Ls but not elders or Ls defined. Then we were told and this is what stumps me really and you can go home tonight and look we were told when we had time to go to a dictionary and look up words starting with L like life, liberty, and love but primarily words starting with EL. I cannot see how a race that may have lived here a billion years ago that didn't even speak

a language let alone English could have any connection or influence upon our English language in our dictionary. I don't see how but anyway apparently there is some connection because and you'll find out too if you look in the dictionary tonight almost every single word and there are many of them starting with EL in the dictionary could be applied to this L race going through the 90 degree phase shift into the thought universe. For instance I'll give you some examples and in the dictionary of course the word elder which I've already given you are elders then also we find the word L itself which is our most ancient word on the earth for God. Also the word Elohim E-L-O-H-I-M from the Bible also the word eliminated they eliminated themselves from physical matter elevation they elevated themselves to another dimension of time and space the elixir of life the immortal mixture to give you everlasting youth or to place you in an eternal condition the Elysian fields

electricity and all the others and if you look at them when you go home you'll be quite amazed. Now I want to refer back to this part the part Let me refer back to the formula E L equals I T H I had in the book It's obvious what I meant by E L The I I am not going to go in tonight it isn't very important anyway to the discussion this evening The T is interesting Have you ever wondered why our words are spelled the way they are or at least begin with a letter as they do it's an interesting study Why is it that time and timelessness start with the T T in Egypt was the ancient Tao Cross which was the symbol immortality or eternity. And we find it used as the first letter of the word time. Also, then, we have the H in the formula. H, we find, is the eighth letter of our alphabet, and it has been the eighth letter of all the alphabets from the Phoenician Andang. Also, the letter H can be made into the number eight if the ends are closed. Also, the letter eight on its side has always

been a symbol of immortality or eternity. The letter H, when you get home, also look in your dictionary at the first part of the section on the letter H, and you will find it gives you a little history there of where we got our H. It's come to us from the Phoenician to the Greek to the Latin to present languages, present modern languages. And it will tell you there that the letter H originally came from ancient man's guttural sound of deep breathing, which is H, H, H.

Ancient man's deep breathing. Ancient man's deep breathing gave the sound of H, which again refers back to the Ls, because they most certainly were in the deep breathing of the necessity to incarnate in physical matter before they went into the theta universe or pure thought or energy. Then, when they overcame that, the eighth condition, which is the eighth letter of H, they no longer were in the deep breathing. And also, there are many other connections. For instance, our word hell, which starts with an H and ends with E double L. Very unusual connections with that as well. Also, heaven and many other words, happy and other things.

Now, I'm going to leave that for a moment and go to the third section. Again, that's just a story.

And I feel it's important because I'll ask the question now and bring it up toward the end of the lecture. Are we going to be on the earth called upon to conquer matter, energy, space, and time ourselves, as this race may or may not have done, depending on whether they, whether the story is so or not. There are three places on the earth where we find the UFOs

appearing quite often. There are other places as well. You've all heard of them. But first of all, they very often are seen over the areas of atomic radiation, either atomic man-made plants or areas of natural radioactive concentration. Also, secondly, we find them quite often over

volcanic craters, areas of magnetic anomalies or vortices. Sub-vortices of the earth's magnetic field. Now, the first two somehow tie together. We can understand that, why they would be seen over those areas. But the third one doesn't seem to fit in at all. It doesn't seem to make sense. But in, I would say especially, the last three or four years, they have been seen very often hovering over the sites of ancient civilizations. Why? Are they looking for a gold vase or a Greek statue or something? I don't think so. Also, perhaps we might get the idea that they're looking for a gold vase or a Greek statue. Are they looking for something? Well, I think they are, but it's not exactly that. They know where it is. So I don't think they're looking, necessarily. Let us remember that when they're seen, they want to be seen. They're never seen unless it's part of a program where they want to be seen. Also, then, they are not being seen

over these sites of ancient civilizations or ancient ruins unless they want to be seen. I feel they are attempting to draw our attention to something. I remember one time they'd said, we are, we want, the average man in the street on earth to realize that he has a great legacy on the earth. Maybe they're trying to point our attention to that legacy. So many people have said, well, perhaps the saucers are not friendly, that they're here to invade us. Well, we've been around here for several thousand years and it's taken an awful long time to get on with the invasion. It doesn't seem logical. Why did they wait till we had atomic energy? Why didn't they come down and conquer us when we were running around with bearskins in war clubs? Of course, an atomic bomb, wouldn't do much more to a UFO than a war club anyway. But it just doesn't make sense. The invasion is taking too long. Also, it must not be just for scientific surveys either,

because the survey is taking a long time to get going. In 1952, I felt they must be here for an emergency reason. Not here in the beginning for an emergency reason necessarily, because they've been seen for a long period of time. And I don't think we have to discuss that this evening because you're all familiar with the various happenings in ancient times. It could. We have no proof of it, of course, but it's rather obvious, I think, that it is, was UFO activity. The late Dr. Morris K. Jessup so often said, which to me is, and I mention it almost in every lecture because it's, it sums up all of this so well. He said, I believe, after several years research, that the background of unidentified flying objects is the background of humanity itself. And apparently, we begin to get some answers to things that never happened. It made sense before. How could we ever stand, understand the gods who landed on Mount Olympus before?

The Greeks were a very intelligent race of people, and yet they seemed to believe in these fantastic gods

who came down on Mount Olympus. I think the Greeks were a little more intelligent than that, just to believe in a will-o'-the-wisp. Something must have happened to make them believe that there were gods on Mount Olympus. And we begin to get a key then that unlocks ancient mythology and gives us true answers. We couldn't understand. We can't understand men with wings on their back before, but we can understand spaceships containing higher evolved beings. I've mentioned this before in lectures, but just take a second to mention it again because it does tie in here tonight.

In 52, as an anthropologist, when I was finally convinced that the flying saucers were from space, I believed in UFOs for a while,

but I still wasn't convinced they were from space. And when I was convinced through the radio experiments, I asked myself this question. Whenever, we know that whenever we tell that, we don't know, we don't know what exactly. a so-called superior culture comes in unto a so-called inferior culture it always destroys the lesser culture completely economically socially religiously and politically you might say well we don't always conquer people and kill them off we have kindly motives we say these poor natives don't have the advantages of life that we have although I must admit as I'm sure many of you will that it's becoming rather doubtful more and more as we go along whether civilization has too many advantages or not but anyway we say we have advantages and we have to these people just have to have these advantages you know and it's just like the man says this is good for you and you say I don't want it and he says well it's good for you and he knocks you down

and makes you take it because he just knows it's good for you so that has been our relationship with native people but even if our motives are kindly we destroy these native people now we have adequate proof of this we know that wherever civilization has touched native life it has had a disastrous effect now I'm not saying tonight whether it's good or bad some people say civilization's on the move and they have to have a contact eventually well I won't debate that point at all but we do know that when the contact's made it is disastrous to the lesser culture therefore certainly intelligences from space know exactly the same thing they must know that if we do they're certainly more intelligent than we are and I know it's a horrible blow to our pride to think there's anything smarter than we are but after all they must be they're flying around in space and we're not so they must be a little more intelligent anyway and if so they know this fact also so I ask myself

this question would they then intentionally come down and land and contact us knowing that they will completely destroy our way of life in every sense of the word because friends if they landed tomorrow and it was known throughout the world that's exactly what they would do it would be the end of the economic system it would be the end of all of these other patterns of our culture and they don't have to come down and kill us to do that or they can have perfectly good motives they could not possibly bridge the gap between our culture and theirs immediately the only answer I think is that there are those people now on the earth the small harvest that the bible speaks about or the remnant that remains that are evolved to the same point that those coming from space are therefore I think those space intelligences can work with those on earth who have evolved to that point who would not kill their fellow man and so forth as far as the others are concerned

we'll be talking about that as we move along but we can bring an Australian aborigine in here tonight and we can put him in a suit and give him a haircut and show him how to use the telephone but we could never in our lifetime bridge the gap between our culture and his he's living at exactly the same time we are but he might as well be living 30,000 years ago in the stone age because you just can't bridge the gap how are the UFOs going to bridge the gap between their culture and ours I ask myself the question and it's a very serious one to think about the only answer I could come up with was that they must be here therefore for some emergency condition if they are here for an emergency condition it must be something they've known about for a long time and it must be some great cosmic change that is taking place at the present time that they're concerned about I'm going to leave that section for a moment and move on to the next one in 1952 in the communications

the UFO intelligence has said that if there is peace on the earth we will land and assist man into a new age in technology if there is an atomic war or any kind of a war for that matter we will not interfere but we will wait a certain we will wait a reasonable length of time are the words they use now what they mean by a reasonable length of time I have no way of knowing but a reasonable length of time and then we will land and assist the remnant that remains this to me is very important because it's exactly the wording used in the bible we find after Cain killed Abel why he went off somewhere else in the world and married somebody we don't know where they came from you all know that story but there is always a remnant that remains after disaster on the earth the world has ended many times but the physical planet is still here I think that's going to happen this time I think the world is going to end alright but I think the physical planet will be here it's only our

way of life that will end I don't think the planet itself will but we find also after the flood of Noah there was a remnant that remained and in revelation again we read that there shall be a remnant that remains so the UFO intelligence as I've said they will land and work with this remnant that remains and help to bring them into this new age in technology the picture we get therefore is that the UFOs are not going away they're definitely here to stay and will land but when, where and how they do it depends of course upon each and every one of us also then

we asked in 52 I guess this is an inevitable question if you happen to be in touch with space intelligence is everybody acid and that is are you concerned in space about our atomic bombs or experiments they said oh yes we're concerned about it because we never split the atom although actually we don't split the atom either that's a term it's not actually that but anyway they said we do not destroy that power in the manner that you do in fact we learned on some of our planets thousands of years ago that this force can never be used for peaceful pursuits they said do not be fooled that you can use atomic energy for peace because it is basically destructive and can never be used for that we have learned to utilize the power in atomic energy and not to go through the process that you use at the present time but they said we are more concerned about a great cosmic dust cloud and they said it really is not a cosmic dust cloud as such but that's the description that

we will give to you so you will understand it actually they said that we are now on the outer fringes of a great field of magnetic energy and they said that the atomic bombs are only accentuating an already dangerous condition on the earth caused by our entry into a new area of space not only our own planet but our entire solar system and many solar systems in this section of the universe of course we wondered what they meant because every moment of every day we move into a new area of space what do they mean they said you will discover this or your scientists will very shortly you will find that the cosmic ray bombardment has speeded up well I thought now this is a scientific prophecy or a prediction this is something that can be proven or validated or thrown out as the case may be as we move along so I made a mental note of it and wanted to wait and see what would be announced and sure enough less than two years later in 1954 Dr. Kurt Seidt who is

a Nobel physicist at Syracuse University was working high in the mountains in Colorado and he was working in the mountains in Colorado and he was and he announced that through his research he had found that the electron count had speeded up and the cosmic ray bombardment increased to such a fantastic degree that present theories would not account for it at all and he became quite alarmed and went to Sao Paulo, Brazil to become an exchange professor at the University of Sao Paulo and there working 18,000 feet above sea level he discovered exactly the same thing his articles and discoveries appeared very briefly in one or two highly specialized and technical journals and after that disappeared right after his announcement of his discoveries Professor Vaino Auer one of the world's foremost geographers at the at Finland's Helsinki University announced that much of the beneficial bacterial life of Earth was dying at a rapid rate because of this increase

in the cosmic ray bombardment this is actually what was happening and this is we've all heard of the old nitrogen cycle we heard about it in general science in high school in college and so on where we have this beneficial bacteria that produces an enzyme that works on organic matter that produces humus and from the humus we get plants and from the plants the animals live and of course man lives off the animals and the plants and it goes around and around if that cycle is interrupted anywhere along the line all life will end on Earth between two to four years and pretty soon there won't be anything for man to eat and so this little bacteria that produces the enzyme that works in the organic matter that makes the humus that makes the plants and the animals live on that and we live off the plants and animals was dying and the scientists of the world became very alarmed and so did the governments now after I mentioned this after I heard about this

I mentioned it in a lecture in 1954 in Cleveland, Ohio and after the lecture a woman came up to me and she said Mr. Williamson I was very interested in what you had to say tonight especially about the cosmic ray bombardment she said my brother has just been visiting in Cleveland and he's now gone east to Washington but he has just been placed in charge of a new government project called the Division of Radiation and Organisms with its headquarters at Smithsonian in Washington and I said well that's interesting what is it about and she said well the governments are very concerned about this bacterial decrease and also about the cosmic ray bombardment and they want to do something about it she said if you're interested why don't you write to him and maybe he'll tell you more about it well I wrote to him and I got a letter back but I'm certain that his sister got called on the carpet because I think she told more than she was supposed to

because this is the letter or something like it that I received from her brother he said Mr. Williamson he said I don't know what you mean by cosmic ray bombardment that's out of my field I don't know anything about an increase in a cosmic ray bombardment but he said it's quite true we're concerned and he didn't mention the bacterial life at all but he said we're very concerned about the diminishing humus supply in the world that it hasn't anything to do

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with the increase in cosmic ray bombardment he said you see too many lumbermen are chopping down too many trees which is causing erosion and destroying the humus I thought that was rather interesting especially since the heading on his stationery said the division of radiation and organisms and I cannot for the life of me see how radiation and organisms has anything to do with lumbermen chopping down trees but he said anyway that's all he would say but apparently they were concerned and I think they are still concerned because this cosmic ray bombardment is increasing all the time recently during the research of the satellite program they have discovered that the cosmic ray bombardment in space is 1,000 times greater than they formally suppose that's quite an error isn't it 1,000 percent wrong it's 1,000 times greater than they formally suppose at this point I want to briefly mention it's a fair question a fair question this is the paper

at the University of Georgia and some reference to the scientific research over the world but this is a paper that was reported by the

Forrest and K. well a reproduce btw there was a study by the University of Georgia a study this is this is a study by the University of Georgia a high temperature does not retain its magnetism. And Charles Fart used that often, and it's quite true, there are many contradictions. So they were one thousand times wrong on the cosmic ray bombardment, because it's a thousand times greater than they formerly supposed. Of course, what we want to know now is, if this cosmic ray bombardment is increasing, why is it increasing? After all, the bombardment itself is only an effect. What is the real cause? What are we moving into or near that is causing this bombardment to increase daily? A little after 1954, then, when I heard of these discoveries, in 1955, I was suddenly in correspondence with a very well-known foreign scientist. Now, I cannot mention this man's name, but I'm going to tell you enough tonight that you'll know who I'm talking about.

He didn't say I couldn't say these things, but he said, don't mention my name. Those of you who, in general audience, wouldn't know, but those of you who've read Major Kehoe, for instance, and others, will know exactly who I'm talking about. But this man had been placed in charge of his country's Project Saucer, which, of course, was known under a different name. And he's still heard of, heard from quite often, gets in the newspapers and so on. But he wrote and he said, we have been very interested in the radio communications you witnessed in 1952, because in this country, we have had what we feel to be authentic radio communication also with space, and evidently with exactly the same group that your radio man contacted in 1952 in Arizona. But to me, the second part of his letter was much more important, because he said, after several years of research, our scientists in this country have come to the conclusion

that the increase in the cosmic ray bombardment is due to the fact that our planet and our entire solar system is moving on a collision course with a gigantic embryonic sun. Now, perhaps as I tell you this, you immediately see a gigantic sun colliding head-on with the Earth, like a grapefruit squashing a pea or something, like George Powell's When Worlds Collide. But it's not, it would not be that type of thing at all. It's not a collision as we think of a head-on collision, but something like this. Now, this is not my field by any means, so I have to give very simple childish explanations. But let us immediately now transfer the universe. I'm not saying the omniverse, because, you know, a decade or so ago, we thought the universe was all creation. But now we have different terminology. We use the term collision. We call it the omniverse, because we find there are universes within universes. We are in one of them now.

We are a planet in a solar system in the outer section of the Milky Way galaxy, which is an island universe itself. So let us just transfer this section of the universe to your bathroom for a moment, with your permission. And we fill your bathtub full of water, put the plug in, and throw ping-pong balls to float on the water. These ping-pong balls represent a solar system. Pull the plug out, the water starts going down the drain, like a whirlpool or a vortex. Of course, it depends on whether you're north or south of the equator, whether the water runs one way or the other, but it runs anyway. And the balls all start to go down the drain, or accumulate and go into the whirlpool. Evidently, this is actually what is happening when we speak of a collision. And I feel that what we've heard about in astronomy, the theories of the red shift, the expanding universe, and so on, all has a connection with the universe itself.

And that's what we're talking about. We're talking about a collision. That's what we're talking about here this evening. This then, evidently, is the collision. We are on the outer fringes of it. Remember I told you that I felt that the world is not coming to an end. Of course, friends, that's a very, very contradictory statement, because everything changes but change itself, and the planet is physical matter, and someday we'll have to go through a change. Someday the Earth won't be here. I mean, it just, it's logical. But I don't think we have to be concerned about that. I feel that man will have his time on this planet, and of course, all prophecies and promises of God say that he will have his time here on this planet before such destruction takes place. So we're not to be concerned about the final product of such a collision, so-called, which would be the destruction of the Earth. But we're more to be concerned about what's happening daily and how it is affecting us

as physical, mental, and spiritual beings. Because as the cosmic ray bombardment increases daily, we are finding then that this collision is affecting us. Although it's not the end of the world as yet. Now I want to mention a few scientific facts which tend to prove. These are things that come from many sources that have never been all put together before. About a year and a half ago, Dr. Jason J. Nassau, who is a world-famous astrophysicist who is at the Case Institute of Technology in Cleveland, Ohio, returned from a science symposium held in Rome, Italy, where many of the world's greatest astrophysicists and astronomers congregated to pool their recent discoveries. Dr. Nassau is a world-famous astrophysicist. He has worked in the field of astrophysics and research. When he came back to the United States, he held a press conference and he announced that the decision, the unanimous decision at this symposium, was that our sun is not dying as

formerly supposed, but it is expanding, it is getting brighter. And then he gave a statement which to me is the key to the whole thing. He said, we find that our sun is absorbing material to put forth more energy. Our sun is absorbing material to put forth more energy. Absorbing material from what? Absorbing material from where? I think perhaps you begin to see the picture as we go deeper and deeper into this magnetic field of this embryonic or developing sun, which of course is vast, which covers an area of tremendous distance in interstellar space, covering many, many solar systems, that as

we move deeper into this, our sun is stepping up its energy output. It's just going and getting louder and louder and brighter and brighter and so forth all the time. In frequency and vibration. What could that mean to us? Let us remember, and I think that so often we're inclined to say our sun, but let us remember that it is also the sun of Mars, Venus and the other planets in this system, and if there's life on those planets it's their sun too, and if anything's going to happen to that sun or it's in danger or disturbed, they're very concerned naturally. It so happens that our sun is an orange dwarf star. Stars go along and they have youth and, and that's the way it works. They're very concerned naturally. It's a very strange thing to do, but it's a very strange thing to do. And that's the way it's going to be. But, but, but, but. If there's life on those planets, it's their sun, too. And if anything's going to happen to that sun, or it's in danger or disturbed,

they're very concerned naturally. It so happens that our sun is an orange dwarf star. Stars go along, and they have youth and middle age and old age, just like people. They're called blue-white giants, giant stars. We have dwarf stars and so forth, various categories. And we find that our sun is a very old sun. Astronomically speaking. And it is an orange dwarf star. Actually, it's a very small star compared with most of them. And also, a rather disturbing fact is that science has noted that it is always an orange dwarf star that goes into supernova or explodes. They have never noted another star to explode, except an orange dwarf star. It's just like a peach. It's not good to eat before it's ripe. It's only good when it's ripe, and afterwards, it isn't worth eating. So our sun is ripe for supernova or explosion. It is in that particular point of its evolution. And that doesn't mean it's going to do it, let's say.

It might be a billion years before it'll do it. But, again, I don't feel we're to be too concerned about that. But we're to be concerned now about the effects that are taking place on the sun. And these are the scientific points that prove that. In the last two years in particular, the sunspot activity has increased fantastically. You've all heard about it on TV and radio. Read about it in the newspapers. The magnetic storms that have taken place on the Earth disturbing commercial and amateur radio communication. The gigantic solar prominence activity. Science has reported recently that the sunspot activity is the most disturbed it has ever been in astronomical history. Of course, I grant you astronomical history isn't very old. But, at least, there's a lot of disturbance on the sun. Remember about the Christmas time of the first of this year? There was a lot of it on the radio about the the sunspot activity.

There was a lot of it on the radio about the the sunspot activity. There was a lot of it on the radio about the the sunspot activity. There was a lot of it on the radio about the the sunspot activity. There was a lot of it on the radio about the the sunspot activity. There was a lot of it on the radio about the of something that passed the sun's surface. And they never did figure out what that was. So there is a lot of disturbance there. When we begin to add these things together, science believing our sun is expanding and getting brighter. It is absorbing material from somewhere to put forth energy. The solar prominences are in evidence. The sunspot activity is disturbed. We begin then to wonder just exactly what's going on. Now, at this point, I want to mention something which, to me, is very interesting. And I'm still doing a lot of thinking about it whenever it comes to mind. And I think you will, too. Not just now, but after you leave here this evening.

I think you're all familiar with the fact that science is aware that when there is a disturbed time on the sun, such as a disturbance of the sunspot activity, there is a corresponding period on Earth of a depressive or negative condition of morbidity on the Earth where crime increases, murder, all types of crime. And I remember this mentioned in a psychology class I took in school. And anthropologists mention it quite often. It's a well-known fact that there is a correspondence between these two periods. But they have never figured out why. Well, we had been talking about this some years ago, and then we finally asked it one evening in communication. The answer is very interesting. First of all, we were told that, they said, well, as usual, you have everything in reverse on the Earth. If you'll just reverse that, then you'll get the true answer. Well, we still didn't... I didn't quite know what they meant by that.

What do they mean, reverse it? They said it's quite true that on the Earth, light is hidden under a bushel, and darkness is given forth as light. Things appear as angels of light, which are really princes of darkness, and you get things reversed on the Earth. And so you just reverse that. Well, we still didn't understand, and we pressed the question. This was the question. This was the answer, rather. You see, it is not... It is not the sunspot activity on the Earth that is causing the... Excuse me. It is not the sunspot activity on the Sun that is causing the depressed condition on the Earth. It is the depressed condition on the Earth that's causing the disturbed sunspot activity. Now, I do not mean to say that man's negative thinking on the Earth is causing sunspots on the Sun. I don't mean that. The sunspots are the result of a... natural condition. But it is just like the atomic bombs.

They are not the main cause of our problems, but they are only accentuating an already dangerous condition caused by our entry into this new area of space. So the sunspots are always there, but they are disturbed, then, by man's negative thinking on the Earth. Maybe. I don't know. That's what they said. I have no way of knowing. But they also added, then, that there is a magnetic affinity between the Sun and the Earth, and that there is a magnetic affinity between the Sun and the Earth. It is a constant feedback situation between the two. They said man on Earth has more power of creative thought than he realizes at the present time. They also said, and this is interesting, that as we go deeper into this cosmic bombardment or field of energy, man's power of creative thought will increase rapidly. I know it begins to sound like Christian science, but I'm not a Christian scientist, but evidently there's a great deal there that's true, also,

as we find in any... amongst any group of truth seekers. Could this just possibly tie in with what we read in the Bible about in our new age, when the remnant is upon the Earth, that the lion shall lie down with the lamb? Perhaps, friends, we have ravenous beasts on the Earth because man has ravenous thoughts. Maybe. I don't know. They also then said that man, with the power of his own mind, could destroy the Sun. And he doesn't realize it. And he doesn't realize it.

By the way, also, I want to mention... I want to go back now. That's another reason why you don't give this lecture publicly, because it's not organized as well as a public lecture would be. I'll have to backtrack a moment. My notes are horrible here, anyway. They really don't tell me anything. Your writing isn't very good either. That's why I have to keep looking at them, because they're awful. But anyway, why the governments of the world did this, I don't know. Certainly they couldn't be ignorant of where the major fault lines of the world are. That is, the cracks in the Earth's surface, follow mountain ranges and so on, and these points of stress and strain. We are familiar. I don't have to... When I'm back east or in Florida, I always have to explain about fault lines. But you're all familiar in California with the San Andreas Fault and all. You've heard enough about fault lines, so you know what I'm talking about.

The governments of the world, whenever and every time they have set off atomic bombs in experimentation, have set them off directly over the fault lines. I don't know why. It sounds ridiculous, like hitting a cracked egg with a hammer. And also, if you watch, when they set off a bomb on one side of the world, there is a reaction, usually a day or two later, on the opposite side. Some years ago, the bombs were set off in the Pacific, and in the American Southwest, and about a day later, the horrible earthquakes in Turkey and Algeria, killing the 1,200 and 1,500 people. I think you remember that four or five years ago. And so the atomic bombs, however, are not causing all of the trouble. You know, when grandmothers' corns used to hurt, why, it was the weather. And now it's the A-bomb. The atomic bomb is getting blamed for everything. Just like the devil, he gets blamed for everything, too. And people say, well, the devil did it.

It's a nice, easy catch-all, you see. And the atomic bombs did it, I guess. But that is only, again, an effect. It is accentuating another condition, which is much worse for the cause. Now I'm going to leave that section for a moment and move on to the next one. This is the next part that I'm not too sure of myself yet, either, in all aspects. But we have to discuss it this way. Before we can go to the conclusion, I thought, first of all, to leave it out. There is absolutely no way to leave it out. And that alone convinces me that it's probably so. So I will be saying to you now, they say or we are told, and to a public audience, they'd say, well, who said and who tells us? But you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm speaking about various people. I'm speaking about various metaphysical groups and literature and so on. You'll know what I mean. Let us, perhaps you won't believe this, but for a moment, please accept it,

so we can go on with the lecture tonight. You can disbelieve it when you get home. But just for a moment, let's accept these things. We are told that our bodies are receivers and transmitters, that we occupy these forms of clay or whatever we want to call them, these overcoats they're called and so on, for a certain period of time to learn a lesson. In other words, we are in physical matter so that spirit might come to know itself. Let us give here a simple example. If you have a radio set, you are receiving music from the sending station, from your local radio station. The music may be coming perfect from the station, but it sounds horrible coming through your radio. Well, you don't call up the radio station and say, get the orchestra in tune or there's something wrong, do you? No. Maybe some people do, but not many. You say there's something wrong with the tube or there's something wrong with the radio set. So you either fix the radio set or you throw it out.

You get another one, get a new one. Well, apparently this is what also we do with our own bodies. When our bodies as receivers and transmitters are no longer going to receive and transmit properly, when the music all sounds horrible, the music we might compare to the universal knowledge or influx of knowledge that is constantly coming, which is pure and true, which never has a discordant note. But when it comes through us as receivers, we're not, it doesn't do very well and it's transmitted very in a faulty way. If that continues to happen, I think we more or less automatically commit suicide without realizing it. Because the law of the universe, you may not believe this either, but we accept this for a moment too, the law of the universe is that we must progress. There is no retrogression. Now, you might say for a moment, oh, but there has to be retrogression. What if I have to be reborn on another planet and wear that bear skin and run around with a club?

Isn't that retrogression? And I remember a woman, when I gave this one time, came up to me and said, oh, but Mr. Williamson, certainly it would be retrogression. What would I do without my TV set and my Austin Healy? Well, I suppose it would be retrogression without your sports car and your TV set. But you see, from the overall standpoint, if your soul needed that experience, if you have to run around with the bear skin again, if you need that experience to progress, then it is not retrogression. So if the law of the universe, which is an immutable law, is that you must progress, and you have suddenly found yourself in this receiver and transmitter or this clay form that is not going to allow you to progress, you'll get rid of it and get another one. Is it possible, then, that this increase in the cosmic ray bombardment is the scientific answer of what we read in Corinthians and elsewhere in the Bible? In the twinkling of an eye,

man shall take off the mortal and put on immortality. Could that also be similar to the elves going through their 90-degree phase shift, conquering matter, energy, space, and time, and going into the thought, beta, or energy universe? Maybe. Could it also be, then, that this ancient secret and knowledge of the elves is what the UFOs want and need from the earth? Maybe also. We'll speak of it now as we move along. We find that in the study of the electrochemistry of the blood, science knows that every blood cell in the human body is surrounded by a magnetic field which forms a cushion that keeps all the other cells from coming together and clotting. If that magnetic field breaks down, we have clotting of the cells, thrombosis, or heart attack. Heart attack is on the increase. It's the greatest killer we have today. Now, the other evening, in fact, it was last evening, when I gave this talk, there was a cardiologist present.

And she mentioned that in her work, there's something very interesting. She works in a doctor's office, and she said no matter what, she said there are many kinds of heart disease and many symptoms and many different... Each doctor will give a different diagnosis for each case. But she said when they all come in, it's very interesting, she said, to note the conclusion on everybody's chart is always the same after all these elaborate tests and everything. The conclusion they finally come to can be said in two words, and she says it's on every single chart. Heart disease is nothing but chronic anxiety. Chronic anxiety. It's rather interesting. So, let us take then a hypothetical gentleman, Mr. X. Mr. X has a crystallized mind. I think it's interesting we use the word crystallized in that sense too. But he has a crystallized mind. He's not going to believe in anything. Now, I'm not saying that you must believe on saucers

or be lost. There seems to be, in a certain element in this field, the evangelistic spirit, although it sort of died out a few years ago. You don't see it much more. But thou shalt believe on saucers or not be saved. It's a little bit ridiculous. I think there are a lot of people who don't even know about UFOs that will be around, and probably a lot of us that do know about them where we'll not be. Another thing I'd like to mention is, and I think perhaps you've noticed this, if not you will immediately see it. In none of the major context stories do we find UFO intelligences saying, now look, Dan Fry, if you work for us and give a lecture and you tell the world about us, and about your experiences, you're going to be given a ride or a medal or taken to Venus or saved or something. No promises have ever been given to any of these contactees, if you'll notice. They just had the experience but they were promised nothing, which to me is a very good indication,

both for the UFO intelligences and also for those who've been contacted. It works both ways. Let's leave that just for a second. We're still in the same section, but something here is important. You know, we have heard in the past about the old god of whims. This god of whims is still prevalent today. A lot of people believe in him. He's supposed to be an anthropomorphic being someplace, we don't know where, but someplace, and he has a white beard and he waves a wand. And if he decides that he doesn't like this particular sparrow, then he doesn't save it. And he might say, well now this man is a good churchman, he goes to vespers, so I'll save him. And this man hasn't donated that money to the new church hospital, so I won't save him. A god of whims, and a god that we have to fear. The god of fear, the god of wrath. If we're not nice to God, why, he's going to do something horrible to us. I don't see how we can believe in a god

who is all loving and yet believe he's going to do something horrible to us. We only do something horrible to ourselves. But a lot of people still believe in this god, although not so much as before, I don't think. We are told, and indeed it is even written, that man has been made in the image of God, but it's also true the other way. Man has made God in his image. God is only as great as we are able to understand him. I'm sure that there are as many gods as there are people here tonight. Or aspects of the same God, of course. And I'm sure your idea of God tonight is different than the one you had last night, or last year, or ten years ago. And it will change as time goes on. God doesn't change, but our ideas of him do. Therefore, friends, all of the responsibility of this new age and who's going to be here is taken out of God's hands completely. It wouldn't be logical, and at all, to say that we must fear God because we're afraid he won't save us

for the new age. God has put certain immutable laws into effect. They are universal and eternal. Even God couldn't change them because they are immutable. And he has put these laws into effect. And it depends on how we live in connection with these laws, or how we meet or greet them. This, uh, upon this depends whether we're going to be around or whether we're not, what's going to happen to us. Also, then, a lot of people have said, you know, they used to lean on God, and when these UFOs showed up, they started leaning against the saucers, all the space people. Uh, and I don't mean to step on any toes here. It's another reason, however, you can't give this publicly. I think you people will understand. A lot of people wouldn't. Because there are a lot of wonderful people who believe this, what I'm going to say. Let me give you an example to show you that I'm not making fun in any way. Uh, some years ago, after an election in Chicago,

an elderly lady came up to me, a very fine person, and as she told me this, there were tears in her eyes. Now, as I tell you this, it's going to sound funny, but it's not funny. It's really pitiful. It really isn't funny. She said, Mr. Williamson, um, I do so want to help in this new age, but she said, if you ever hear of anyone in communication with space visitors, will you please let the space visitors know that my bank account is very low? Now, she said, if they could drop a diamond from Venus or some like valuable object, I will place a basket in my backyard and they can drop it in that. And she said, then I would have enough money to help my fellow man. It sounds funny, but it isn't, is it? Especially what she said after that, and she said, oh, by the way, she said also, she said, the doctor has told me I have a short time to live because of cancer. And she said, will you have the space people cure me of that too? Let us think about that for a moment.

Have space people come through millions of miles of space to personally take care of us. We hear so often, Ashtar, who commands 90 million space fleets or planets or whatever it is, is suddenly guiding one person only, or is appearing to tell them when they should take their vacation or they should go off meat and eat nuts or something else. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not making fun of vegetarians, I'm a vegetarian myself, but I'm just giving this as an example. Now, right away, perhaps you're going to say, well, do you, what do you mean, what about the contacts that you feel are authentic? What about these one man that's had a contact? Friends, I don't think that space people contacted Dan Fry or Van Tassel or any of the others because they thought they were good looking or good Masons or good Republicans or good Russians or Americans or anything else. I think they were contacted because they knew that these men had the kind of mind

with a certain mental makeup that would carry the messages they wanted them to carry it. I don't think they had any other qualifications because believe me, if they went around like Diogenes with a lamp looking for an honest man on the earth, they'd never find anybody suitable to make a contact with. And I feel that that's been the only reason. They didn't contact Dan Fry just for himself, but for the influence that he could have upon other people and he's had a great influence as the others have too. So, is it going to be up to a spaceman to carry you off into the new age? Is it going to be God or the Master who's going to return and carry you off into a new age? Is it going to be a spaceman? Is Ashtar going to take you by the hand and off into the wild blue yonder? Or are you going to do it to yourself? Now, I'm not making fun of the Master or Ashtar. Don't misunderstand me tonight. I feel that I'm speaking to a group that has the background

to know what I'm talking about. Otherwise, I'd be insulting people, you see, people that don't understand. Friends, so many people, and you've seen them too, are sitting around sitting on the sidelines. They hear the big drums booming of the new age. And they know it's coming and they're going to get in this big parade and it's going to be wonderful and they're going to receive something special on a silver platter and everything's grand. But unless the new age begins with each and every one of us, there won't be any new age. If we just sit around waiting for it, it'll never get here. At this point,

I want to have you accept something else again. Remember we said the UFOs will eventually end. Whether there's atomic war, whether there isn't, doesn't matter. They will eventually land. Let's now go ahead in time to the point where they have landed on Earth. We don't know if there's been a war or not. But let's just say that they're here now. And the remnant that remains is here and the space people are working with these people. We're beginning to get the idea that the rapture of the church that we've heard about, one at the mill, one taken, don't go back inside for anything when this happens, could easily tie in with pickups by space visitors. After all, the space visitors could be operating as God's messengers. That's what the word messenger means anyway, as angel, of course. And I'm not saying that's so. It's just a possibility. You've heard that, I think, from many sources. It's not original with me by any means. Anyway, let's say

they are now here and they are working with the remnant that remains on the Earth. There's peace and harmony. This established millennium has taken place. I remember some years ago they said, man shall have his so-called millennium upon the Earth. Now, notice they said so-called. I think this may indicate that it's not exactly a thousand years duration. The Bible says a year with the Lord is a thousand years. Maybe the millennium is a million years or something, I don't know. Or it could be a thousand. A thousand years seems long enough to us anyway. But they said, man will have his so-called millennial reign upon the Earth. And then they said something very significant, which I never could understand until only recently when I began to put these things together. They said, at this point the Earth will disintegrate in thought. Now, it may not mean the destruction, the physical destruction of the planet. If man conquers matter, energy, space

and time and goes into a timeless condition, the Earth will disintegrate in thought for man. But it doesn't mean that it, as a physical planet, will be destroyed. Also, there are other statements in the Bible besides, in the twinkling of an eye, man shall take off the mortal and put on immortality. There are other statements that make us suspicious, like they shall be gathered together in the eagle's places, and similar statements. I believe that during this millennial period they will return the Earth to the interplanetary brotherhood from which they claim we fell a long time ago. We will be returned to that. We are working for some time in a period of harmony with our brothers and sisters from space. I feel that at this point, when they do land and this contact is established with the remnant of the remains, they are going to ask us for something that we have on Earth. Now, of course, they could come down and say, well, it's not easy. We don't even know

we have it, so how would we miss it? And being universal gentlemen as they are, they know fully well that if they did that to us, they would have to pay dearly somewhere along the line. I don't think they'd do it anyway. But they are going to ask us for something that belongs to us, that is here on the Earth, our great legacy that they speak of. I feel that this easily could be, I don't know, it's just a possibility, the ancient secret of the L race. Their conquest of matter and earth and their conquest of matter, energy, space and time. Now, you might say, oh no, the space people are perfect. They'd know all about matter, energy, space and time. Or would they? They have said many times they are not perfect. They know more than we do, but they don't know everything or they'd be God. The very fact that they are in existence as they are shows they don't know everything. I remember one time the radio man in a communication said, oh my, he said,

your planet sounds like paradise or heaven. And they said, you think of a planet several trillion years ahead of us and we can assure you that such planets exist. Therefore, we get the picture that we have a goal, but we will never reach it. It is constant, ever upward, expanding grandeur. When we get to the goal we have now, there'll be another one. In other words, you get to the landing and there's another flight of stairs, you climb that and there's still another one. And after all, this is wonderful because we'd lose individuality if we ever get there. And so we just constantly progress up the worlds from one of God's mansions in his house on up. Then they said some various things that made me suspicious such as, man someday on earth shall march across time and the stars. March across time and the stars. And they said, we mean that literally. Well, I can understand what they mean by stars, but what do they mean by time? Again, it could very easily

tie in with the necessity of ourselves going through or going into a timeless condition, the conquest of M.E.S.T. Again they said, man someday on earth shall take a migration to what we call the void of eternal light. Now, I don't know what the void of eternal light is, but that is the word, those are the words they use, the void of eternal light. Void of eternal light could also tie in with the theta energy or pure thought universe. I still don't know in my own mind if it does or not, but I'm just saying it's possible. If you will also look in Revelations tonight, 21.1, when you get home, the first verse, you will find a statement to the effect of there shall be a new heaven and a new earth. You're all familiar with this. There are, if we go back to the original Greek, there are two words that can be used for new there. I could tell you tonight that I'm going out tomorrow and get a new car. I could mean two things. I'm going to get a new engine,

which I recently had to do. I could tell you tonight that I'm going out tomorrow and get a new car. That would be a new car. Or I could mean I'm going to completely change vehicles. Now, we don't use our word new in English that way. If I, really, if I said a new car, you'd think I was going to buy a new car. But they would, they did that at that particular time. Now, if we look in the original Greek, we find that the word that they have used there for new heaven and earth does not mean a completely new planet or world physically. It means a qualitative change. It means that this planet is a great proof again that this planet is not going to end right now, that it will serve its purpose during this millennium, that man will live here, but a completely different kind of man and a completely different world. The earth, then, is changing vibrations or frequencies. Actually, friends, to put it very simply, what we are doing is changing dimensions.

Those who can meet the new pulse speed, the new vibration and frequency will remain here. Those who cannot will not remain here. Now, perhaps that sounds horrible. You say, well, a lot of people, I guess, are going to pass away. Now, this might sound rather cruel, too. Perhaps, I think you'll understand. I don't think space people give a hoot whether you live or die. Now, that doesn't sound nice, does it? But think about it for just a moment. Naturally, they would be very concerned about any pain or suffering that we might have to go through. Naturally, of course, they would. But from the overall standpoint, if they realized that through this experience you were going to progress and that it was good for you, then they'd be happy for you, wouldn't they? Well, it doesn't sound very nice to say I'm certain that a spaceman would be happy if you died tonight. You see what I mean? Now, I don't think any of us, even though we talk about these things

and these metaphysical truths, I don't think any of us tonight would want to go through that particular experience. I don't think we would think of it at this moment as being very beneficial. I know I wouldn't. But at the same time, from the overall standpoint, it could be beneficial because we would need this experience. Therefore, then, the people who will not remain on the earth, it would be a tragedy. It would be causing them a great deal of harm to have them remain here because they would not learn their lessons from this new experience at all. The earth will have nothing to give those people in its new vibration or frequency or its new condition. They'll have to go elsewhere to get their lessons. Let's say now then, and we're coming to our conclusion, for a moment let's believe that. The UFOs have asked us for something. We have something here. They have reached the stage in their development where they deserve to have this knowledge

of conquest of M.E.S.T. And the earth happens to have it. I don't believe it could be obtained by just anyone because if it was given to the world at large now, it would be used for destructive purposes. And obviously it would be impossible anyway. You must be of a certain level of spiritual involvement to deserve this. I feel then that this will be our contact to receive our own legacy. And at the same time the UFO intelligences will pay and pay dearly for this information and for serving, for our serving them by giving us their knowledge of space flight and everything that they know at the present time. They will offer us the universe in turn for our own legacy. So we are going to work together for a certain period of time let's say. And we will project ourselves even farther into the future which isn't very practical because in public lectures I like people to think about today and maybe tomorrow but certainly not a thousand years from now

or something. But just for a moment in conclusion tonight let us place ourselves far, far into the future when this millennial period is drawing to an end. When the earth is supposed to disintegrate in thought. Ask yourself this question. We work with space people for a certain length of time. They operate in mechanical craft. Would it be possible for us working with them even to develop a craft that would get us out of reach of the developing embryonic sun? It covers such a vast distance in interstellar space that no mechanical spaceship could ever reach its outer limits. In time that is. Because you know well from things you've heard in astronomical theory that even to the nearest solar system to us requires a journey of a tremendous length of time. And to some of the others even if we traveled at the speed of light it would require a tremendous length of time. The lifetimes of not only one person but many people. How could we then ever

in a mechanical ship go beyond such a vast distance? Now this goes back again to the elves. Remember we said that they could not kill themselves and get out of physical matter. They would not escape the wheel of life. In other words if we do not evolve as a race to the point where we can conquer matter, energy, space and time before the destructive influence of the embryonic sun eventually makes life absolutely unlivable on the earth and it will. Not now, not today. But as time goes on eventually man cannot live on the earth. He will have to migrate in space. And some people would say well let's just stay here and the collision will come and we'll all die and then we'll go on into the thought universe and that will do it. But it won't do it any more than if the elves had killed themselves. Because if we do not conquer matter, energy, space and time before this thing happens we are forced to come back into the physical wheel of life again.

We have not evolved to the point where we can escape it and we'll have to do it over. Therefore I think we're going to have to conquer matter, energy, space and time. We'll have to go through what they call the 90 degree phase shift whatever that is and I'm sure it implies much more than that. And perhaps then we will march across time and the stars and we will migrate to this void of eternal light. Friends, I'm still swimming around in my own mind. But I do hope that I've given you something to think about and perhaps some of you have I'm certain that if we had time this evening to go into a long discussion many of you could add things. We have heard of these things as the change from the Piscean to the Aquarian age. Going from the old age to the new age and the new dawn and the second coming. Church people think of it only from that regard. But certainly all of those statements are true. And to me we have the cosmic ray burners as the scientific explanation

of what's taking place. Because friends we must have a scientific explanation as well. You know in the past they felt that too much science takes away from God's power. It doesn't. The more you study science the greater God becomes. And before we have known that man is going to change in the twinkling of an eye from mortal to immortal. But we didn't know how. It could be the increase in the cosmic ray bombardment that will bring that about. It's entirely possible. And we will be affected physically, mentally, and spiritually because we are triune beings and you can't take a point away from a triangle and keep a triangle. It's no longer a triangle. And therefore if we're going to be affected physically which we already are being affected physically by the increase in the electron count then also we shall be affected mentally and spiritually by this. Now what time is it by the way? I think if some of you have some questions we could take probably about

10 or 15 minutes. I have a long ride. I have to go back. I was going to stay in this area tonight but because of various things my car for one thing and so on I have about a two hour ride back to out toward West Covina. So I can't stay too long this evening but if you have a few questions why we can...

I feel as a yes I feel that not so much in the old civilizations but I feel that and this is just a guess I'm not certain of this by any means it's just trying to rationalize the thing I suppose but it's possible that they have evolved to the places I said before where they deserve or could handle this knowledge of the conquest of matter energy space and time. I believe that certain contacts have been made with entities that are beyond that point and some are and this knowledge evidently is on the earth in this particular part of the universe I don't know about that but possibly in the cavern areas where the elves had their existence.

And undoubtedly these areas would be in places all over the world. I feel myself and this is too just a guess that there is such an area in the area of Lake Titicaca in Peru and Bolivia. There are great caverns there that's scientifically known and then there are some very peculiar things about that area which lead me to believe the same thing. But just where these locations would be I don't exactly know but undoubtedly in many places in the world. And it's a difficult thing to talk about because what is it? Is it going to be it's not in a piece of paper it's a spiritual thing and yet it's something that is a legacy belonging to us and I just don't have the answers to those things. But I do feel that they want something here. Of course that sounds like a little material and commercial I don't think they are thinking from that aspect at all because it will be of great benefit Yes.

That might refer to the crystals used in the old libraries

I don't know.

[01:40:00] Audience questions and discussion

Where somebody just stood in a crystal or between a crystal and could even direct a robot to a satellite or something. Well crystals are very important. I'm sure many of you here tonight remember that before crystals were used extensively in radio stations that there was a lot of correspondence with various stations overlapping each other and everything in programs and a crystal regulates all of that just a tiny wafer affair in transmitters and crystals are becoming more and more important. I remember too some years ago the space intelligence has said that they said it would be hard for you to be

as good as you are. Of course not as we are naturally but that it does have life and the crystal is very important I understand in the use of the green fireballs used by the space people. Some of these fireballs serve different purposes. Some of them I understand have intelligence and it is actually it actually has intelligence it is a sentient being and yet it is it is I understand crystalline crystalline copper and that's of course why it glows green but it has intelligence but intelligence like a dog and we were told that while our remote control devices have an intelligence behind them their remote control devices have an intelligence behind them but also intelligence within them and the device is only an extension of the operator an extension of his own consciousness and therefore it relays back to him everything in full color and sound and so forth of what it is picking up on the earth they can drop these down and pick up our conversation now and so on

and they don't have to appear here themselves or even have a ship very near. We see them then as between us and the ultimate the ultimate is that man is able to do these things without equipment but space people still use equipment but in a greater way than we do they are using their mind in connection with the equipment now we just we just turn this on we don't do much else it's strictly our cooperation in this effort is merely to turn the button that's about all but whereas they would actually use their mind in connection with it but still use equipment and they say that the only reason man uses equipment is so that he can learn he doesn't need it they say you have radio sets but you only have them so eventually you realize you have a better one in your own head anyway and you'll never you won't use these any other I have heard it but you might feel it ties in some ways some people's mind goes on and so far and others it goes farther but we have been told

of the seven planes now when we have progressed through those seven planes and ready for the eighth there's no return oh that's interesting I didn't know that when now I was sitting in what we call a medium she lives in Redondo Beach and her teacher said that when she made the temptation he had the choice of coming back and working through another earth plane being or going on but if he went on there would be no return I also worked with a woman in Santa Barbara whose teacher told her that he would always be with her as long as she was on the earth plane about four years ago he came to her in a seance and he said I'll have to take back that promise I have been called to the inner plane to train teachers and then he said I'll leave you Omar who was a guide to him now I saw Omar materialize and I heard her say will you tell Dr. Elmo he turned like a flash he said you know I cannot contact Dr. Elmo beyond the seventh plane she said can you send him a message he said

oh yes so there again you have your eight from which there is no return yes and then someone mentioned something the other night which I knew about before but you see this involves so much that you you can't tie it all in together immediately but it will be this is to the place that has was created by positive thinking or the thought process and then eventually will be called on to go into the eighth so I don't we are told in our work and our faith and it will be so and when we have faith our needs are met I never get so low in my apocalypse that along don't come something that comes at the end. I have faith that it will happen, and that has happened time and time again. The supply is there before the need is at hand. Well, midnight. It reminds me of a good story. I shouldn't do this, but one I haven't thought about in a long time. It's a true story. I remember when I was talking with a minister and there were a group of people around, and this woman, one woman in the group,

had a great deal of difficulty, a very poor person. She was trying to support her children. The father had passed away. She was having a very difficult time, and they were talking in a group about getting up sort of a fundraising thing for her, and there happened to be in the group a woman who was a very well-to-do woman who was quite wealthy, really, and they were talking, and one woman said, well, I think I can manage $10 this month or $25, and so forth. And finally, everybody started looking at this woman. She hadn't said anything, you see. And so she said, well, I know what you're all thinking. She said, now, I don't believe, she said, in taking away from the... She said, I don't want to keep anybody from learning their lesson. And she said, if we make it too easy for this woman, maybe this is a lesson that she should be learning. And she said, we don't want to make it too easy for her. She says, I think we should give her a chance

to let her faith work for her, you see. And so then the minister said, well, I'll tell you what we'll do. He said, I think this woman has a lot of faith, and to prove to her that her faith is right, you give her a $100 check right now. He says, we'll start with you, and that'll prove that her faith is working.

Studies, excuse me, Rick. Go ahead. Turek Studies, we have a law of precipitation, which is... Nothing more or less than the creative principle to create out of mind substance what we need. The trick is to be able to do it. Not enough of us evidently have done it, but it's there for us to work with. Yes. You not only have to have the faith to send out the wrong picture, but you have to be thankful for that that you have received. Yes. Knowing that's what you needed there, too. Thanksgiving, gratitude, and return the blessing. I still think that faith people have that. It surely isn't that. I'm sure they do. I don't know. It doesn't matter. Oh, I did. I always say this. Any other... Could it be a debt as a race? Yes, very easily. It's a debt which we owe them. Very easily. And we have to progress from a spiritual standpoint to what we realize we owe them. That's what it's about. I think we'll find that we're all from space.

Nothing originated on the earth itself, really. And possibly it's one explanation that the reason we have so many races and different kinds of people and so forth here on the earth is because those who could never get along in the rest of space were all dumped here. To work it out. And it's been mentioned quite often that this is a prison planet. And that we're here to work out the naughty children. We're all thrown in a nursery to work it out. And the space people now are coming back for their own. Those who have been able to work it out. And after a very long period of time, all of the wars and the problems and periods the earth has gone through, the end product will not be very large. It's like Madame Curie with her tons of... Pitchblende, when she got all through, she had practically nothing. But she had pure radium. And after all of the work here and incarnations and what have you on the earth, there will be that pure essence,

but there won't be much of it. And then, of course, you see that hasn't produced will go through another refining process and eventually will produce. That's the beauty of the whole thing. To me, the most beautiful statement ever made was that the question was asked... This was not in our communications, but some other people. And they asked, what is the real purpose of the earth? And the answer was, the earth... This is a rather startling answer. The earth is a school for gods that eventually... And, of course, maybe you will do it a million years before your neighbor or a million years after your neighbor. But eventually, every soul on earth will have god power or will develop to the point that they will be able to do it. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing.

And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. And that's the beauty of the whole thing. As the master. And, of course, that's the reason Christ came to show us that way. Remember, he said, you can become as I have. And he was the way-shower to show us that these things could be done. Well, they say... Yes, there will be no other way to it.

We're also told that the... We're also told that the... that the space people, certain groups of them, owe Earth people a debt. It's very possible. We can't repay what we owe until we get what we have coming. Well, maybe it has to go both ways at once to complete the picture. It really is. In one life. It really is. And I have seen, it's amazing, especially in the last four or five, especially the last two or three years, if we just forget UFOs for a moment and look at the things that are changing on the Earth. I mean, if a person didn't even believe in UFOs, I don't see how they can't see things, what's going on, because the evidence is everywhere around us. For instance, as I've come across the country this time, never noticed this especially before, but I have now four or five times in different cities we've been in. Recently, I was... I was on a radio program with a very well-known radio personality in the United States,

and he is known as a great hunter. He likes to go out and hunt and so on. And while I was on the program, somebody called up. It's that kind of a program, and they said, by the way, what are your hunting plans for this year? He said, I'll never go hunting again. And they said, well, why? What happened? Did you have an accident or something? No. I really can't tell you why, but I sold all my guns and I want nothing to do with it, which is rather startling. Then I have another friend who hunting has been his great activity, and he had a room full, a den full of heads and what have you, and stuffed fish and deer and so on. And recently I was in his home and the room was bare. I said, what did you do? Oh, I took all that dusty junk, all that stuff down, he said, to the second-hand store. And I said, well, why? Your precious trophies. And he said, I got so that every time I walked in here I saw those heads hanging up there and gave me the creeps.

And I noticed he still had some of his guns there. He used to have... a great collection. And he said, I'm selling these as fast as I can. He said, I will never pick one up again. And I said, well, why? And he said, I don't know. I just don't want any part of it. He said, if you'd have told me that a year or so ago, I wouldn't believe it. But there are changes like that. It's quite amazing. And nobody's telling it. I mean, telling these people to do that. No minister or anybody told him not to do that. And also people are changing their way of living and eating. And they're not being dictated to or told that they should do that. They just do it of their own accord. Which is, of course, a great proof of things. And I think it's just people shifting around to the... Because I don't think we can go on into these higher vibrations if we are in that particular level. And I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I don't like terms like evil and good

or bad and good. I like the terms destruction and construction, which I think much better. Because without the destructive forces, we wouldn't be learning where they're necessary. And for even existence, and so therefore we find two forces, those working for the destruction of man and the construction. And if we think of it that way, I think that a lot of the talk that goes around, it's so discouraging to me and I know it is to many of you too. People are talking about being New Age, but I have never seen people less New Age than I have in some New Age groups. And I think you have seen that too. If we would forget that, and I always ask myself, now maybe I don't like this man's looks or the fact that he wears a green tie or I don't like because he happens to belong to this particular faith which I don't approve of particularly and therefore I'm prejudiced or he speaks with a funny accent or something. I try to, I only think in my mind,

is this man working for construction or destruction? And so many people are puzzled. Well now, can I believe this man? Or what can I do? Well absolutely, friends, there is, that's a very simple matter. There's no, it's very easy to know. The Bible says, by their fruit you shall know them. You can tell by the message. If at any time a speaker or a worker in the New Age points you to himself instead of yourself and God, then I would say he's a false teacher. Of course that's not, that's metaphysical. That's not my own, those are not my words. I think most of you are familiar with that. But if you are being pointed toward him, if it's ego, then that teacher is not a true teacher. Certainly not the devil incarnate or completely evil, but not really a true teacher of this, of God, you see. And by their fruit you shall know them. Examine the message. Don't look at the man, if he's good looking or not, but examine his message and see what he says.

And it's very easy to know. You know, to go back to the Egyptian mythology, they have the destruction and the destruction of Shiva and other auspicious things. And one has, in other words, if we're going to build a new building, we have to raise the old again. Well, you know, Van Tassel has a good, he's coined a good word there on Shiva or Siva, which is destruction or evil. And he said that's why we are called civilization. My bad point. At least that's what Van says. It's rather good anyway. Because we destroy more than we build. I think the best explanation I've ever heard of that

is in Alain's, one of Alain's messages to Daniel Fry, and that is, on earth, he said, you have not, you have built a pyramid. That doesn't mean an actual pyramid, but spiritually speaking, symbolically. You have built a pyramid, but you have placed material things as the foundation, attempting to reach the apex of spirituality. But therefore, your foundation is weak. Whereas, on other worlds, they have built the foundation along spiritual lines and then placed their technological advancement at the apex. And he said that is the reason why the technology now is overbalanced. We have accomplished many wonderful things on this planet. It's true. And in a short space of time, in the last 50 years, we have progressed more than the previous 10,000 years. We're coming into the new age. And just, we need that firm foundation, which we don't have. If, before you leave now, if any of you are interested in Road in the Sky or anything,

I'll be glad to talk to you about it. By the way, also, if you have friends, I know quite a few people now are, starting to return to Los Angeles area because children in school and so on, they're coming back from vacations. And if you want them to hear this particular lecture or my other one coming, City That Existed Before the Moon, which many of you have already heard, why, you can call Elmer Fry, because I'll be in, I will be giving this same lecture I've given tonight in the Manhattan place again, in Los Angeles. I'll be giving it in Pasadena again. I gave it last night there once. And I'll be giving the City That Existed Before the Moon tomorrow night in Long Beach, also in Pasadena. And if you call Elmer Fry at Edgewood 14509, she can tell you when I'll, where I'll be giving this. But in quite a few places, and if you have friends who would like to hear it and want to get a group together, why, I'd be glad to do that as well.

Either now for the next week or when I come back from up north, which will be about October 8th or 10th, I can do it also. It'll be given several times yet, so if you have people coming back who want to hear it, why, they can contact her and find out. How long will you be here in October? Probably about a week or 10 days again. From about the 8th to the 18th,

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or the 16th, about a week, I guess. Do you have a client? A very good reason. It's the publisher that accepted the... Have you ever contacted the divorce company? I sent divorce several years ago. Other tongues are their flesh, and he refused it. Well, he's gone on now, you know. Yes, and I understand that... Well, it was presented to the other gentleman who's taken over there, and he thought it was too big a book and wouldn't sell well, but now I understand that he wishes they had published it. But Ray Palmer, of course, did it, and it's quite true. The publisher would be a little bit suspicious of it. It's sort of a book that wouldn't... They felt that... He felt it was too big, maybe a little too scholarly or something, didn't move fast enough. People wanted something a little more exciting, and they wouldn't like it. Of course, you never know with a book. You think something's going to be good, and it's a failure,

and you think something's going to be not received well, and it is. Friends in Secret Places of the Lion, I had to write it, but I didn't think people would like it very well. But people have liked it, and it's a great surprise to me, and I'm very glad, but I didn't think they would. And I never intended for that to be a book about reincarnation, really. And... Ray Palmer wrote back to me after I sent him the manuscript, and he said, now, about your book on reincarnation. And I wrote back, and I said, what book about reincarnation? You have my manuscript mixed up with somebody else's. I never wrote a book on reincarnation. He said, no, I'm referring to your Secret Places of the Lion. He said, you better read your own book, because there's plenty about reincarnation in there. And I said, well, I wrote it to show the secret places of the Most High throughout the world where we have a great inheritance. So then I really sat down and read the book,

and it's quite obvious. That it is in there. But some people... It's a poison on reincarnation. Well, you know, there's a funny... something funny about that. Some years ago, Palmer, using a pseudonym, wrote articles all for reincarnation. But as Ray Palmer, he's always against it. And no one really knows whether he's against it or not. Well, he seems to think that he's just driving the fans to listen to both sides. He has written articles both ways, really. But he never writes Ray under the name of Palmer when he's against it. But he never said anything about secret places. He said he liked it. But... No, he's only distributing. He's not publishing. It's... The copies are all mailed from England. He just put the American cover on it. The same with the secret places. They thought it... They found it was much, much cheaper to print the covers here than ship them from England. So he printed a cover here, which is different than the English one,

but the book's exactly the same inside. There's no difference. So I guess that's all. Any more questions? The magazines... Mm-hmm. What is the... the context of them, particularly? You said you wrote... Well, there are quite a few articles in there about space communication and context and what have you that I haven't put in books. And they used to be 50 cents each, but now I've got them three for 50. And each one is different. As you'll notice, they're one, two, and three. They look alike on the front, but they're all different. Some... Yes, mostly about radio and... and so on. A few other things as well.

I'll give you one if you want one, but... You won't have to worry because what I do, as soon as I get the names, I make a carbon copy. And I keep a carbon and I mail the other one to the publisher. Then if he hears from you and you haven't received your book or we find out you haven't received your book, I have a carbon and I know immediately if you ordered it and I just tell him, and I just tell him, and I just tell him, and I just tell him, and I just tell him, just be sure and send you one. Or should I write to you if I don't receive your book? Well, Understanding here, or Elmo Fry, who sponsored me, you could always let them know and she would tell... would get a hold of me and say, Mrs. So-and-so didn't get her book. And I would immediately tell the publisher that you have a book coming, you didn't get it. With secret places, almost everyone across the country have received their books. We found about four or five who didn't.

And I think they were just lost. But everyone else has received them well. And those that... that didn't receive them, I immediately wrote in and said, send them another one. Well, you... any of you can timber at two o'clock. And young Richard Miller, the electronics engineer and space contactee, will be the speaker. And those of you who would like to bring your picnics...