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1959 October 19th Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Neva Dell Hunter New Age Concepts P151
Recording structure
- [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
- [04:00] Neva Dell Hunter on New Age Concepts
- [35:00] Development of the New Age themes
- [01:10:00] Audience questions and discussion
- [01:35:00] Closing remarks
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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
i think of my work in uh exactly as each one of you should think of your work
when people speak of a cosmic awareness i believe it's one of the things that every person in this room will go through uh sooner or later i don't think it's it's anything i think that a few of us uh have to pave the way possibly get our feet wrapped step in and dare to test what saint paul said in the script in the scriptures dare to test the
power of the spirit um first i would like to begin everyone asked me what kind of an early
preparation did you have for your activity and i would like to say that i grew up in a very orthodox baptist church attending sunday school singing in the choir um later on teaching a sunday school class much as possibly many of you are doing and have done my father was a medical doctor on the staff of the university of michigan
i had the privilege of meeting and knowing a variety of different kinds of individuals the doctor has all kinds of not only in the in the field of medicine but in many other
fields of education to work for me a really are a lot of things i have to say to people
about one of the things i did in the beginning was to read a lot of the books that the to have
to read a lot of the books that the to have there are many things that have really helped old with what the world designates as rheumatic fever. A particular disease up to that time no one said could be cured and that no one would live from the results of it, at least after you pass. My father, who was a doctor, believed this. He turned me over to another doctor, naturally, because a father cannot treat his own children, at least in Michigan. And I went through long months of ending up having what the world would call temporary paralysis. That is when I called upon healing. Some of you have heard me
say this, that I felt that it was no illusion, at least not to me. I'll put it this way. It may be to anyone else who hears the illusion that the Master Teacher walked into the room and put his hand over my head and just said, would you go and do my will? This does sound, and I have thought many times that when I've heard other people say it, it was rather an elusive thought to say. No matter how much man would try to convince me otherwise,
[04:00] Neva Dell Hunter on New Age Concepts
I would still be up. And then from this I went on, the boy that I had been going with prior to this insisted that even after all these trials and tribulations that he was going to marry me anyway, bless his heart. And so he married me, and I lived to take his death. Now, it was through the idea that I knew that I had been healed, but this great desire within me to try to see if there could be a healing also. I cannot say that it was not this. Faith, because he had, I believe, a much greater faith, but this did not, it did not show, the evidence of it did not show in his life. And so I had to watch each day and know that this made me realize within myself, I suppose I gave it a great deal of thinking. Then we are so apt to forget that which we've gained, we all bypass and slip back into our former selves, which I was one of. And after my husband's death, I went back into the business field. It wasn't long until Pearl Harbor, and
I went in, too, as a personnel director. Suppose the cosmic awareness that come upon a man, or any one of us, it comes in dribbles, I would say. It sort of rushes in, like you try to push the water, back as it's flowing underneath or over the door sill or something. That's the way I felt it sort of flew into me, but I didn't know what it was. This is why I feel so much the need of going about and talking to as many people as I can to make them just slightly aware that this adventure can happen and to take advantage of it when it happens. I was asked to go by a friend of mine to a lecture of a woman that was talking on psychoanalysis, so finally this girl pulled me, as many of you have been pulled there to go to a lecture, when you didn't even know why you were going. This old lady was about 65 years old and lecturing, and she was a real clown. All I could think of is if I knew anything about my scripture, she must be old Ezekiel.
So she talked on all these fabulous things that I'm talking on now, oh, I thought it was the most oh, such a far-fetched you never could believe what my thoughts were. Imagine just imagine by your thoughts you can control yourself and your world. Never heard of such a thing. And so but this bothered me and I was giggling in the back of the room at the things she was saying. I was very possibly discourteous. There's about 85 people in the hall, and the girl that I was with was quite embarrassed. She was interested in these things, but not interested in them. You know, it was out of curiosity she went, but I didn't go for any one of the known reasons. I just went because someone dragged me. And this lady was a real little thin darling and she jumped off the platform. She come right down to the room and she shook her finger in my face and she said you would be surprised if I told you that within five years you would be a teacher in this field.
Oh, then did I laugh, but my laughter turned to sort of embarrassment. So I thought that I would sign up for a course, you know, as a sort of consolation prize to her because I had the money and I would just make her feel good. I'd sign up for a course, but I didn't have to come. I thought I'll just contribute this. This will be a good way and I'll go up and apologize to her. I went up to apologize and she turned around at me and she said and don't you sign up for this course unless you're coming. I mean, she knew what I was thinking and this dumbfounded me. I mean, this was something that just oh, I said to her, how did you know I was going to? She said, I heard what you were thinking because I've been keeping myself attuned to you. So I said, all right, then what would you suggest? She said, why don't you come down a couple nights? And you might learn something because you have the kind of mind that will possibly be receptive, but
I won't say for sure yet because it doesn't look too good now. She went on to tell me that my aura was confused and my eyes weren't clear and she went on to just pour on all sorts of statements of what I wasn't. Well, I had not been too receptive and I wasn't too kindly to criticism and so I just frankly said to myself as I walked down the doors, so what? Oh, gal, you've seen the last of me, but you know what happened. I had to go the next night for fear I'd miss something. And I did hear a talk and rather than buying the course, I laid down it was $5 a night or you can buy the course and get it for $3. So I thought, well, I'll just lay down the $5. This will be good. So she was at the desk and so she takes the $5 and hands me back to this is kind of insulting and I said to her, I'm not taking any more of the courses. She said, well, tonight, just because you came back, I'll let you for $3. And I said, I'm not begging. You know, I was
furious because I thought, now I have the money, she shouldn't do this to me. She shouldn't embarrass me like this. But she was needling me a little and so anyway, I went all through her course and I was green and I didn't know what she was actually talking about. When I got all through, I'd never read anything like this. She suggested some reading material. Well, when she left, she left her class in my charge. Now imagine this. She left her class to me. She willed it to me. I was to see that her class met at least once a month and had an adequate speaker. Well, if you ever had a group of people and everybody rushed up around me and asked what are we going to do and how are we going to handle it and who are we going to do it for and oh, I just didn't know. So I thought it was a psychology class so I invited a doctor of psychology from the university who I knew very well and said to him, would you mind contributing a little bit of your time? They were a metaphysical
and this hard-boiled practical psychologist wasn't what they wanted to hear. So they told me, they said, we don't like this doctor at all. We don't want him. This is not the kind of speakers we want. And I said, alright then, do it yourself. And I was going to walk away from him, but I just couldn't. It was a responsibility that was left to me and I was going to carry it through. So I said, what kind of people do you are interested in metaphysics? Well, we had about two more meetings and when this cosmic awareness happened to me and I listened to these meetings and actually I went because I felt I had to. I thought the people were queer that were attending and I thought they asked such ridiculous questions and they were talking about what is my sole purpose and what am I supposed to do and so on and so on. And so I took it all as a matter of fact. Then I had this awareness. This happened one night and I'd like to tell you
just how it happened and I've been thinking very much about this and procured and I was trying to read it, but it sort of didn't fit in with my purpose at that moment. And I had I like to read intellectual historical books and things and this was sort of too confined to something I didn't quite realize. Well, anyway, this night I went to sleep and in the middle of the night I awakened and the room was so bright. I have never seen a room so bright and I thought I'd gone to sleep and left my light on and I reached up to turn my light off and the little putrid light just about this great big thunderbolt bulb was just like nothing. It looked like and I turned it on and this frightened me when I turned the light on and saw this little yellow bulb with this light and all of a sudden I just could hear almost well, the rumblings of the world, if you want to call it that. See the rumblings of the world, the it just seemed
that everything the whole passageway of everything in the universe and here I was, I was in a bedside drama that it was just forcing itself and these are the things that somehow everyone should know about because when this cosmic light hits you, it hits course. I understand. It hits everybody differently, but the reality of everything in the universe seems to come alive. If you could imagine putting your hand on grass and feeling your hand pushed up by the grass growing and pushing up your hand in this kind of sensitivity. I wandered around in this kind of a daze for about three days and I wrote a book in those three days at my typewriter and I still don't know how I come to have all the paper there. That was the thing that got me. That got me a whole new ream of paper I had brought home and it was by my typewriter and I still don't even remember buying it, but I must have because I had a bill for it from the store.
So I must have picked it up and bought it. And this book was on numerology and I never heard of it with numerology. I still don't know how it was written, but evidently I must have been transfixed to my typewriter, but this idea of walking and knowing not what you're doing. I know what it means by going around in the daze. Yet I didn't go outside. I can't remember eating. I can't remember anything. But I do remember that finally on the third day the Army nurse came to see if I was ill because after you were reported out three days under civil service, somebody comes to see how you are. So she came and she said, what's the matter? I said, I'm all right. Nobody's wrong with me. Why? What are you asking me for? And she said, well, leave it down. You haven't been in church. You haven't been in church. You haven't been at your desk for three days. I said, why? I didn't realize I'd been away for three days. I mean, there's just this feeling of what difference did
it make? So then I went down to earnest, earnest study. And I had a friend of my father's was a very fine doctor, and he had been a white Russian and had escaped from Russia through the way of Japan, and he was in America. My father had praised him to high heaven constantly. And a couple of days before all this happened, I had run into him on the street. This is not fate. It's man's way of when you need a thing, it's right there for you. If we can only believe it. So I had met the doctor, and he said, and he gave me his address. He said, I live across the street. If you ever need me, he said, call on me. So I thought, I need him now because I better go over to check to see if I'm in the right
line. And he said, well, you know, I've been in the military for a long time. I've been in the military for a long time. I've been in the military for a long time. I've been in the military for a long time. And so he told me that it was right there. I had a very keen, very bright mind. And, so then he proceeded to tell me what had happened. And he read aloud to me Jacob Bein's story in German and translated it to me in English, which sounds much different than if you read it in cold English. And so he told me that this is what, that he imagined that this had happened to me because I had a very high keen sense of alertness. He'd give me all the tests. could answer all the ordinary questions plus this great sensitivity so I said well I didn't want any part of it then I didn't know what it would entail about six weeks after this happened I had this dream and I was to start a class now imagine me who had never had any particular idea to start a class and
they told me who I should have in my class and I did not know one of the people so they told me that I have to call them by phone and tell them
about my work and then invite them and ask if they'd like to come class well one
of them happened to be people that live in Pontiac Michigan and he happened to be an engineer for Cadillac Motor and I called him on the phone and his wife said to me well for goodness sake we've been waiting three days for this call why did you call before and I said I didn't have the nerve and she said well we will be in tonight to see you we were told that such a call would come to our house on such-and-such a day and we've been waiting three days for it now how this happens I don't know who knows how it happens but all of the people that I knew that I called knew that I was going to call them now where did they know I asked them how they said we just knew it we had of course remember all of the five people that I originally was to invite had been in the mystical studies for at least and they had what we called mystical channels I suppose I've never met but one of them one of the channels and they had been receiving a possibly work
similar to what I do now through the years but I was supposed to contact and after I contacted I said what am I supposed to do now that I have you here and so this man was an engineer proceeded to tell me that I was to remain real silent and I would contact some cosmic
being and I said ever heard what would I do if I did contact it and what and they said well wait and see so this is how it actually all began for five years I worked with the five people anything else the five people I might tell you took me I had enough money saved because I planned
on European jaunt and I've had enough money saved for my job to at least keep me for two years when this was all gone the friends of the five people I stayed at their house part of the time the next house part of the time the next house part of the time the next house part of time because that was orders they were to observe me and see how I'd act under stress and believe me even if there's virtual homes I would never want to do it again because going to staying around the people's houses no matter how truly devoted they are to the work you run into some real strange people although there was my close friends by staying at their houses I really experienced some very unhappy things one woman put me to washing her basement I had never watched a basement in my life I had never grown up to do this she decided that if I was going to stay there with her I was a perfectly healthy being I should wash her walls in her
basement I went down to wash the walls in her basement and I thought and I was supposed to do one class a week so on the day that I did the class I didn't have to do anything I mowed her lawn I washed her basement walls and I did all these things and to this day I wonder how I did they wash the basement I said I didn't mind cooking and cleaning and ironing and washing and doing that sort of thing but I had drew the line to basement walls but yet the same she asked me to do it and I did it and well this was all part of the story of building a building an individual in the light you would think it wasn't a bit glamorous I want to tell everyone to do this it's not a bit glamorous it sounds good now but believe me when I was going through it wasn't a bit glamorous so then after I used up this money then I had to learn the law of surveillance this was quite a thing for me to learn because I had never in my life had to
take anything from anyone I had always been able to earn my own supply and had it was there and when it when I wasn't able to earn it my father supplied in the meantime my father had gone on to the invisible plane of action and my husband had gone on and anyone who had money to dish out to me Ray had gone beyond my reach and I said I just never could do it so I decided I wasn't going to continue place upon myself a very fine job but I couldn't sleep nights because I felt I was supposed to do this today and I didn't do it I'm supposed to do this today I quit my job and said I'm going to turn
myself over to God I might as well do it now God forgot that I was on his payroll
I assure you many of the teachers in this field know what that means but I never suffered for a lack of food or a warm place to stay or doing things in one minute then I
then I brought my then I started to really study I went to design science college I went everywhere I could to gain as much of the knowledge as I could that did not have that already been become flowing uh I started in two years two beautifully big they grew and grew and grew and then after I'd become really secure with my class my teaching my beautiful classroom then bingo you are to start traveling on the road and delivering these life readings I gave 100 of these readings at home and each one was checked before I went on the road to do even one and so then I had to do the little way Lansing Chicago Cleveland all the little places around my home I'd have to run out all during the week and then run back home and have my class run out all during the week and this become a very tiresome job but it wasn't nearly as tiresome is when I had to start out I started out the 22nd day of June this year we'll get back to my
classroom two days for Christmas but let me tell you what happened the reason for this is that I become too secure within this goes I think for every teacher we
cannot ever be secure within this school I think for every teacher we cannot ever be come to secure in our in our feelings you know in this in this feeling you see I had this work beautifully now I was having a wonderful class giving out wonderful light but I did I become too self-satisfied I think I become well I came to the place where I thought well it will go on I'll be busy regardless and if someone calls me and needed me I would say well I'll come up the see you tomorrow where be in the beginning I would say I'll be out as soon as it kept and get memorize these are the things that I finally had to face within myself and I did so now I
am on the roll and I go back appreciation when they call me off of doing this work you say how do you know
how do you find people they're there when ever you go to a new city it seems like the light is already perceived, just like all of you tonight. Now, I'm going to
tonight work a little while in the sim stage, and I think that I'll tell you, most of you,
how I do this. It is actually a stage of self-hypnosis, which I do myself, and I shall go to sleep
and I shall have no recall, whatever, of what has been said. The teacher takes me over. Now, somebody said it's supper. I think it would be very nice when Dr. Gordon comes in, he generally says, I'm from the fifth plane of the seventh-heat chair. Well, this is his identification to me. Now, no teacher can come unto me, just like if any one of you
called the other one on the phone and are familiar with them, you would know their voice. You could not be deceived by their voice. I had heard so much when I first started in this work about the idea that erroneous
individuals could give you false information. So, I insisted that if I was going to do this work, I must know what protection was. So, when Dr. Gordon comes in, I know his voice.
I know exactly, like if you were talking on the telephone to someone, who it was. I know this instantly. And if he doesn't come in and announce himself, I will not even
welcome the person who comes. And so, if a new teacher comes through me, Dr. Gordon has to bring him in and introduce him to me and say it's all right, but he will bring him in each time, because I will not. I have worked with over 90 teachers, but Dr. Gordon is, he stands at the portal of the door at the present time. Now, this could change, and I have worked with Dr. Fisher and Dr. McGill, that I become accustomed to their call letters also, so I knew them. But, as a rule, I will not work with anyone. And I think St. Paul
says, test the spirits and the power thereof. And we have to do this in this particular world. There are just as many fellows over on the other side that want to give us false information as there are here. And there's a lot here if you want to listen to it. You can find out all kinds of information, any one you want. I don't care what you want information on, you can ask and somebody will give it to you, whether it's good or bad. And so,
if we are going to become interested in any type of the phenomenal teachings, let us know
about it. And we ask that we be able somehow to try the spirit, or try the spirit of St.
Hallermann. And it was through about five or six years of tests that I developed the
confidence in Dr. Gordon and his persuasiveness and his work to me. We could go to, like you
would have a friend that you could go to and you could contend upon and share with you. Dr. Gordon, I thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. There isn't anything particularly that you have to do but be relaxed. If in any sense of the word you feel tense, you can sense it.
And the utter relaxation of each of you, and just relax and just say, well, so what? Maybe there's nothing to this anyway. Just, you know, because I'm going to go to sleep and become very relaxed, so you become relaxed too. This is a necessity because you dam up the spirit. And if you will be relaxed yourself, it will pour through you. And if it pours through you, you will feel just wonderful. It has a healing essence. It certainly never will hurt you. And relaxation is such an important thing. I'll just become still. The voice will not sound much different because I wanted, I heard so much about natural, direct voices. Listen. And. So I went to the teacher and I said, okay, dear. I said to the teacher, would you mind very much telling me why I can't have a direct voice?
And they said, well, yes, we'll tell you because actually the spirit comes through you. You actually can say that the spirit has a voice. The individual who speaks through you is only impressing you. This must be like a parade of impressions. I have tried to figure out what it is. And it seems a parade of expressions as I was telling a doctor today. I said that I have no remembrance of the life stories that I give. But five years from this day, if any one of you had a story and you quoted something from that, tape that was wrong, I would know it. And I would say that wasn't on your tape at all. Now, what it is in the brain cells, who knows? No one can actually tell. But I could tell if anyone quoted something that was on their tapes, I would say that wasn't on there. If five or 10 or 15 years. Now, it isn't that I remember. I don't think anything about your particular tape. I don't know. This has always been one of the puzzle ones.
Of. Of my work. And I've heard people quote their tapes. And I say, just a minute, that's not right. That was never said. And I don't know exactly why it would be said or why it wouldn't be said on a tape. But there's something in the mind that seems to know. It may be a brain cell that was attached. Or it may be a metal crystal. I don't know. But that's about the only thing. Because you could ask me anything about it. And I'd say, gee. Don't ask me. I just don't know. And I think that everyone can do this. Because I think under the stage of self-hypnosis, you can do anything these days. But I don't advise it. Unless you really know who's hypnotizing you. Because your mind is one of the most delicate instruments of your whole life. And treat it and use it and handle it with great love. That's what goes into it and what comes out. This is your all-seeing self. Now we're going. We're going to surround ourselves with the pure white light of the Christ.
So that nothing but good shall enter. And all else and good shall go back to the nothingness from whence it came. And beloved Father, Mother God, because this is true, we bless the coming in and the going out of thy great intellect.
Bless us in the gifts that we receive from the Father. All right, beloved ones of the light.
[35:00] Development of the New Age themes
And this is the inner consciousness. Of Dr. Ralph Gordon. And I'm going to speak to you today from the fifth plane and the 17th chair. Now as we come into you as a gathering of seeking souls upon the universe of earth.
We are going to speak to you tonight about the problems that are magnified. And are subdued. To the inner consciousness of the awareness of what is to happen upon the picture book of time.
First, the one great question that man is seeking and asking is why for does man bring from out the heavens his particular legions that you are speaking now of as the great.
Unidentified objects. Why are they coming to shield man in his field of light at this time?
What is it that is bringing forth the need from the planetary locations of your solar system?
These invisible objects. These invisible objects that are creating within the mind and within the intellectual comprehension of many and somehow all of you at this moment.
When man, beloved one, came to inherit earth, he sent his trained and beloved ones that had sought other.
When man, beloved one, came to inherit earth, he sent his trained and beloved ones that had sought other. When man, beloved one, came to inherit earth, he sent his trained and beloved ones that had sought other. Planets for their home base. Man long before he came even to his planet, now resident in his solar system, acquired the great inner philosophy that he was spiritual beingness.
And then he takes this philosophy of eternal awareness and goes to a planet, either Venus, Neptune, Mars.
Saturn, Jupiter, Mercury. He goes into this planet, whatever was the household, exactly as you would go to Australia, France, England, America, or Alaska.
And in going to the place that suited him and according to his particular needs, he gained the fact of the qualities of his soul's being, is that he was also a portion of the metal chapter of the world. And then, beloved ones, after this, he gained the great beingness
that he must bring them together into one man's body and work forth to operate them in a physical operation. You who are here know little of the direction of how to operate. How to operate within a physical vehicle unless you have had this grand and most ardent experience. And so man at the present time is preparing in his dimensional kingdom to go on to another realm of existence. Those who have received the light and are prepared to concentrate their functions upon the knowingness of the physical world. And so the beloved elder speakers of what you call space
will show you and point to you the way and yet reaffirm within the consciousness of you that they will remain back and that you will not need to see the full destructiveness of the land as did Lot in his day. And so the beloved elder speakers of what you call space will show you that they will remain back and that your land as you have it now, beloved ones, as you see it now, you no doubt will move into a higher aspect of its understanding. Now it is true that the world can speak of chaotic conditions. This has always been a portion of the natural force of man. But in all the chaotic realities, mankind you must remember one thing that you shall be in the directional or in
the particular pattern or place regardless of what you think because the soul of you that power that is within you is greater than that which is in the world oh this is a difficult thing for men to comprehend and see he who is forever looking at the worldly things to move him into his right deposit but beloved ones of Earth no matter what chaos conditions it is true between now and 1962 your world is going to under grow many different changes but you are
going to learn to know that those changes are for your particular benefit you are going to learn to know that those changes are for your particular benefit and as this happens you will see that even though it is true that lands that
you may even be living up on this moment may become a great open waterway who knows but one thing is sure that wherever you are into whatever resident
scope you're in you will be a testimony of the light that you comprehend and understand or you wouldn't be in this room this night now many people ask about what is going to happen to the great financial structures of your world beloved ones
you cannot forever seek within the psychology of words the great factors that you are searching for a new age and believe that you can have all the old age ideas with it no and so that's for which you believe that you are leaving
behind to accept a new age philosophy a new age economics this will all be
indoctrinated into your world and it will change because man will change because man will change because man will batter man until this change appears oh it would be easy to say that the money
system would fall away but you will never undergo what we believe is a definite break off instantly but each one of you look at your own lives this moment and find out how you and the testimonies of your lives have rearranged the economic system of yourselves you have changed the economic belief of your individual lives
you have come to the place where you understand that consciousness is much more valuable than any other possession that you can have in control oh I know
you can say I must say for a rainy day well beloved one they wouldn't trust that for one night but I'm sure you willOM if you believe that and the concept of the power that you're speaking you're going you're going to have rain if you believe that you must find security of your home own life you're going to have to be blend if you believe that you much find security this is the concept that you are you must find security you are going to have walking toward this is the PreachSpeech of the inner lives of each one of you broken if believers they are least familiaoks it is anyone Caucus is a monthly a that long ago in what happens here history and put our lives on service we are teaching about our hearts right away which is we are meant to be the attributes Matthew 5 status6 so that we may strive for a better life Early American pilgrims wanted a type of religious freedom, and so they entered upon a new land, the land of which you speak of now, here and there, as America. They came to a new land to grant freedom to the religious thinkers of their day, and what did they proceed to do? Burn those who had it at the stake.
Now think of this a moment. This will not happen, because no one that has this particular bigotry within their heart can escape whatever fate earth has, and move into a new age, because those who move into an age, beloved ones of light, must absolutely be free.
They must be integrated with the love if they are to become graduates.
Of what you speak of as your Piscean age. Every age has its graduate students. You have been indoctrinated, many of you at least, for approximately 2,000 years, with the teachings of the man that the world speaks of as Jesus the Christ.
He has brought to you, in the greatest essence of his world, the testaments, and what are those testaments? Think of them for just a few seconds. What are they?
First of all, the kingdom of heaven is within you. This is the greatest prophecy of the present age, that a man can receive within his own life.
This is man's greatest security that he can bind within his own heart.
The kingdom. So if there is a kingdom, within, it must have a ruler. And that ruler must be the great mind of your own self.
Now, in the prophetic field of man's kind, the three great things that man is most concerned about, his peace of mind, his safety, and his money belt. This is what the great master teacher, has looked down upon earth to see. Now, this is okay, beloved masters, in the essence of the devotion of your world, as you are manipulating the centuries past. But you are to become operators in a new age. It would be interesting to find out what each of you feel a new age is. A new age is one which many of you dream of, is to feed you, clothe you, have fun with you, ride in flying saucers with you, and cost you nothing.
This is what many souls of enlightenment dream that this new age is. But this is not the way that man becomes and evolves from one beingness. Now, When you can incorporate within the consciousness of you a directive of love and in part, understand in part because the great teacher said, all the things that I have done you will do and even greater things.
Now, what are those greater things? Is it operating spaceships? Is it inhabiting a new world? Is the new world strictly one of space? Or is it one of concrete power where man can look and reach out?
Supposing that each of you today, supposing right this minute, we said to all of you, wake up, you're in the new age.
You're in the new age. You would stretch and look at life and say it's no different than the old and it will not be only as you make it so.
I do not believe, beloved ones, as we can see it here, that your money will be tempered with as you know it.
I do not believe that this particular piece of land is going to fall into the middle of the sea between now and 1963.
I do not believe either that a great spaceship is going to come and flutter her wings and say, come in, beloved ones, you're the saved ones and all the rest can go where you know what.
No, this is not going to happen, beloved ones. However, this is true. It is stated that the great ships of the heavens have been watching the movement of each one of you, but they are not going to interfere with your ability to gesture.
It is stated that the great ships of the heavens have been watching the movement of each one of you, but they are not going to interfere with your ability to gesture. It is stated that the great ships of the heavens have been watching the movement of each one of you, but they are not going to interfere with your ability to gesture. And to evaluate the principles of your own living so that you can walk into the kingdom of glory with no holes barred,
where you can walk in yourself uprightly through understanding the spiritual wisdom within.
Now, many people come and they'll say, what is the Armageddon? Has it begun? The Armageddon is a battle that's been going on. And each one of you individually, ever since you grew into the reasonable consciousness that you walk uprightly with a power beyond yourself.
They say, what is going to happen to Russia, to England, and the prophecies thereof?
What do you want to happen to them? What is the prophecy but that which is desired by man? Do you know that you as individuals create the prophecies? What do you think, in an amalgamated method, you can bring to this very city, if you wish?
This is an ability of you who are doing the greater things. Jesus could not have said this to his disciples long ago, because they would not have comprehended. He could not have worked with the innocent minds of these yet intelligent individuals to say, Let us come. Let us come and join together. Let us hope and relate back to ourselves. He could not have said this, beloved ones, because you had not yet reached the cornerstone.
Now, when you are talking about your scriptures, your Bibles, the events that took place, the prophecies that happened, do not forget that you are those people. You are the people who walk through the Book of Life. You do not have to accept this. If you were not those people, they were very much like you. They had the same desires, the same structures, the same beliefs, and the same powers of inner wisdom.
Now, we are going to give each one of you an opportunity to ask what question? Anything at all. Do not believe that any question is too minor, or any power, beloved one, is too vague.
Because whatever it is, you can ask it, can direct it here, and we will try, within the essence of our own self,
as we look upon the panorama of your particular principality, and will instruct you as we see it, to the best of our ability,
from a little higher plane. Now, we like to think that as you are moving yourself around the curves in the road, you cannot see ahead, but we can see a few of the curves not too far ahead. Because the curves can change, because many times you straighten the roadblocks of your thought.
Americans have done much in the last 15 or 20 years. To change many of the prophecies of the universe. They have done much to better them. Do you know that even the great, I want to say sassy clubs, but that is not, they are saucer clubs, aren't they?
Even the clubs that you have gathered together have changed the aspect of thought,
because for once you had man look up rather than down. Just look up, and if you will look at the stars, you will see life from a much different basis, because at least you can see the expansiveness of it. And you look down, Earth moves very rapidly. We like to say, of Earthians, that they are the biggest spaceship in the universe. It is going vastly through space, and so you are riding on one right now. Of course, man sometimes becomes so close to the woods, I think, your word is it, they can't see the woodshed. And so you become so close to the great dynamic quality that is within you,
yet anything that man can conceive, he can receive. I don't say how long it is going to take him to receive, but if you can conceive it, you can receive it. All right, now let's have your questions anywhere at all, and let's have fun in answering them.
You mean about prophecies?
Well, beloved son, I'm going to put it this way. We don't have any particular attitude on it, and I'm going to put it back to you this way. If it thrills you, and you believe that it is the kind of kingdom of wisdom that you believe the Father has prepared for you, accept it. But let me say this, beloved son, even to the angles. Oh, for instance, I'm going to use a little game. Now, all of you join in this game for just a minute. I'm going to take a word, something as, let me see, a good word to take here. I'll take the word box. I'll begin with you, sir. When we say the word box, what do you think of? Box. All right, good. Well, that's fair enough. What do you think of, dear? That was an easy one to do. Oh, I... A box. Shoe box. A shoe box. All right. Go around the room here and follow around. What do you think of when you think of a box? Of course, after four or five suggestions have been placed in your mind, you think of a similar thing.
But some of you, when you say the word box, bring out some of your thoughts that you think. Orange crepe. About orange crepe? Hemed in. How many boxes? A square cube. Music box. A music box. A grocery box. A container. A wooden structure. Now boxes, you have more wooden boxes, that's what you think. But you see there's all kinds of boxes. There's steel boxes, motor boxes, all kinds aren't there? Tool boxes. Lunch box. Now, do you think of electric cars? Electric cars. Now, now, do you see, beloved ones, as these, as beloved son, as these thoughts are being these particular symbols are being brought through, the variety of channels see them differently.
They are interpreting it according to their understanding.
Well, I think that's what the world puts you here for, isn't it? Wouldn't you think so? Can all of you see that? You will hear all kinds of things. Now, let me say this to you. In the days of the old scriptures, they had a prophet school. This is how this all began. Prophets were trained and educated and instructed. And then they went to Zadok, went to David, and the prophets went to Samuel. Samuel was a prophet. The prophets went, and each one of the kings of that day. They had their own prophet. This particular person could possibly jump over what the armies was doing. But the prophet would have to come through honestly and say, your army is going to lose.
And yet, you see, Gideon's prophet told him how to win, didn't he? Have you ever thought about the old scripture is written, the scripture according to the saints and the prophets?
Because the prophets had one. It is said that David would not listen to the prophets, and he practically lost his land.
Now, have you ever thought of this? And you see, you are back in that present time again, where the prophets are an advisable thing.
Oh, we have said, and we do know this, beloved son, and I will say this to you as prophecy, but do not pick up your bags. And start running for Arizona, please. But Arizona, Utah, Colorado, portions of New Mexico will never be touched by any type of cataclysm
because of a certain way that they are established in the world. It is true that Salt Lake, again, may be a seacoast. That doesn't mean that they can't push this part.
The. The west side of the Colorado off to make an island of it, does it? But I doubt very much whether you're going to be here when this happens, any one of you. You'll probably be gazing on this from Cloud 9, or maybe that mothership that you're looking for,
because there will be eruptions. There is a calamity going right now called fire, isn't there? There is calamities going on everywhere. Now, beloved ones, any channel could see that fire and say it was going to burn up the whole earth. But of course, you've been told that you will never take another swim because there's a rainbow. Well, many people have taken swims since then. You see, the prophecies of men are actually according to the individual consciousness of the individual.
Well, they say truth is abstract.
But to understand it, it has to become your relative, isn't it? Don't all of you have to bring down an abstraction into a relationship with you and then it becomes a relative?
And it becomes a relative thing if you take it into your consciousness and wish to fear it and fight it. Why? You can do it, too. Jesus said to his disciples, there are many things I would have told you. But if I did, you'd mix them all up and you'd ruin it for the future. Actually, that's what he meant. Don't you imagine what he said? And so he said, well, fellas, I've said all I'm going to do because I've been mixed up enough already by trying to tell you certain things.
And so he withheld knowledge. I would like to say this to you. If a master teacher knew that tomorrow. You were going to roll off on this planet into the ocean, he would not tell you because he would know that from the instinctiveness of your own soul that you would not roll off the planet if it was not yet your time.
You must believe in the destiny of your own soul. How many of you can see that? Come on, give us a discussion on that. Do you believe that your soul, your individual soul has a destiny? And that this destiny will see you through anything? Well, then if it does and it is your destiny to go, could you change it? So what are you worrying about? Isn't it wonderful? Take your umbrella. I turn it upside down or put it over your head. Either way, if you turn your spiritual umbrella upside down, you can slay down the river of Nod and not even worry about it.
If the sun goes down. Becomes too bright or the heat becomes too hot or it becomes too discouraging. Put your umbrella up and don't look at it. But beloved ones, as long as you will believe consciously that you have a destiny. This is the spiritual approach that man must take at this time. If you believe that you are destined, nothing will touch you till you complete that destiny. And so therefore, lose it and let it go. And if it's if you keep having an impelling idea that you should. Be out of town on a certain day, go. Follow your impressions. Please, all of you can do this. This is what you have them for. But no one else can follow them for you. One thing Jesus said that is a great words of knowledge and truth. He said, take up your cross and follow me. But if you can show us what he said, he would carry it for us. Can you find it anywhere he did? He would not. Take from you the joy of your own expression and this experience that you need.
All of you need in order to grow into great beingness of the higher life. Well, any other question? Does that answer your question? Doesn't the planet have a destiny too? Yes. It seemed like it was all against the wishes of the people. So I thought there must have been some power from above that would bring that to pass. Would you like to have me tell you this? And now do not go and leave this room and say that my channel is a communist. Because this would not really be fair. But one of the great activities of the President of the United States of America is to bring Russia back into the recognized Poland.
Do all of you understand that? Yes. This is... Look. What are the requisites for New Age operation? That the brotherhood of man and the fatherhood of God, isn't it? Yes. All right. Can you have a fatherhood of God if you're going to say, get those Russians out of my hair? So somebody has to begin. Now, we believe that the President of the United States knows that this is his destiny. And he's going to do it in spite of the plaudits or the disapproval or whether, what was it, Disneyland, I guess, that the world is ruinous about Mr. Khrushchev.
But beloved ones, look at this. This man knows, too, his destiny. And he knows it has to happen. And because you are not willing to relinquish your prejudices, you see, your personal prying prejudices. But what difference would it make to any one of you, actually? Would it make any difference? Would it make any difference to your lives? Would it make any difference to your lives if Russia was your friend rather than your enemy?
No. It wouldn't change one of you in this room, would it? It would help every one of you because you would have a new basis for international trade. Now, South America, one of your wonderful friends, is selling everything to Russia, through to bypassing the United States of America. Well, why not make it a three-way switch? As long as you are in the business of commerce. So be kind to each other by accepting the graciousness and the glory of each other.
So that is the President's duty, my child, you see, to see that this happens regardless of what.
And you say, well, will that ideology affect our ideology? If you cannot believe in the thing that you have and the thing that you are, then try something new. Shouldn't you? But each one of you should not be swayed by, certainly, being tempted by any other kind of philosophy. The early spokesman of this planet, of this particular Earth's land, came to and offered much to make this place for you,
what you may call freedom. Did they not? So if you will change so easy, well then, you have forgotten your heritage. But this would not happen to any one of you. You will bounce back to your own heritage regardless. How far? We know a great deal out of Russia.
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I would say as far as you could trust yourself.
Remember this, is that not, now this is a difficult thing to say, but, but remember, beloved ones, that as these people come in, and you can trust the ability of your own selves, beloved ones, and, and if they could trust you, people are about the same the world over, aren't they?
Not taking advantage of the red man or anyone here, have we?
Well, what do you think they are saying about us? They are wondering whether we could be trusted also. You see, so for a land, just think of a new country as America. Beloved ones, how many wars has she been in? One hundred and twelve wars. Something to think about, isn't it? And so, I presume, as we can see it here, that Russia will come in.
She will be delighted to be trusted. Her people will enjoy again the spiritual communion. Of course, I will say this, that there will be a great deal of difference in her governments and her feelings as well as in the feelings of the people of America. Do you believe that Americans are really loved on foreign soil? What broke the great General Marshall's heart, beloved ones, because he saw signs all through France, go home Americans, we don't want you here. And so, you see, by the same token, when you speak of trust, if you can be trusted, you will find those that will trust you. And it's true, the history of all these countries, the history that man has built, his karmic residence within the plane of Earth,
he has built these differences because he has come together, souls have incarnated together, beloved ones, that have a definite kind of power to pull out into the wisdoms of the universe. And I believe, beloved son, that when you can draw again the puckering string of faith together,
you will not know where it begins or ends. And that people will be trustworthy all around, because man has come to the place that if he cannot trust another, he's going to be destroyed himself. This is a difficult thing. This is a difficult thing to face. But all of you know this, that you are literally on a bombic, some sort of a keg. And it could blow up any day in your world, but if it does, you have to create it, each one of you. So forgive yourself the warring phrase of your past days, and beg of the great universal light to give you the power to understand the right in these days that are ahead. Now, the moment that you come into a higher elevation of spiritual communion, you are going to be able to transfer your ideas to others without words. This is what all of you are sort of talking about and aiming for, is it not? You call it thought transference, you call it intuition. Now, man has had a five-cent world.
What is that joke in the world? What the governor of South Carolina said to the governor of North Carolina? It's time we had a good five-cent cigar. Well, beloved ones, you have had, have you not, a five-cent world. But now it is going from the five-cent world into an intuitive world. You have opened a new planetary wisdom inside of you. You've opened another center called intuition. But the great center of cosmic awareness is perception. Now you are beginning to perceive. And when this perception comes into the man's life, did you ever realize that for every one of you that leads a better life, you make it more difficult for the fellow to lead a difficult life? For every one of you that becomes truly worthy in the perceptive field, you make it difficult for the fellow beneath you because he has to come up to your standard if he wishes to follow in your footsteps. And when man can see this, the great prophet Gibran said,
do not leave a stumbling block in the way of another soul that is searching for the light. And so as you smooth away, when he reaches there, he has to be a better man to comprehend and perceive what you already have conceived within your mind. If you talked out to the world exactly as you're talking to one another here tonight, they would look for the man in the great white shirt, wouldn't they? The consciousness of the world. You might think that, but yet they might turn to you and say, why have we not heard this before? But man has hugged the knowledge of his perceptive and intuitive qualities so close to his heart. We dare not speak to these. They wouldn't understand. Let them be shocked once in a while with your wisdom. Try it. Oh, you may make unhappiness for just a little while, but it will soon run away if it is done aright with love. Yes? May I ask a question? I have puzzled. Over the new generation that have come in since the World War II,
since 1936, the children that were born then, now they have almost received a label of the goof-off generation. And I would like to know what their spiritual purpose, what they are trying to overcome, whether it is to throw off old traditions or what. Well, in the words of the vernacular of your world, they are trying to overcome you. Now look, beloved ones, you brought this young generation in after war-torn problems. You brought them in with your problems upon their hands. You brought them in the depressive way. You brought them in, and then when they arrived in the world, what do you think they heard about? About atomic bombs? Destruction? You may not be here tomorrow. It looks like we are going to blow the earth apart. This was the entree, and these were the consciousness of the youth as it entered in. And don't forget this, that the age brings in the kind of souls to deal with that age, doesn't it? I want to ask you this,
why do you not believe that there are no great painters in incarnation? Why are there no great developments in music in your world at the present time? The old masters are almost fade-outs, are they not? Why does this happen? They are not needed. Can you see that? The age, the necessity of age, so these souls came in. They are of a much different caliber in many ways, because children only come through you, they are not of you. They are of a much different caliber because they are being taught, and all they have heard is the depressiveness of a world, and the youth know that when they reach a certain age, they are going to either fill their blood upon a battlefield, or having to serve in their most productive years in an army with possibly the layout of their life that they are going to have to defend the country. For what reason? So, they defend it. I would like to say another thing. Many of the souls who are coming in
are the repeated soldiers that died upon the battlefields of this particular nation, less than 300 years ago, striving for a new nation, and they are now great helpers, actually, because they make you see. All is true. They are careless with guns and pens, morals and purposes, beloved ones, but look at them. What have they been given? They are not even given proper food, are they? You have depleted their food substance. They do not even have the bread that you were reared upon. Their food is not even satisfying them. They are having a basic hunger, and yet they are serving a purpose. It would be difficult for these particular children to fill other than your divorce courts. It would be difficult, but look at many of their children, how different their children are. They are of a much different comprehension.
So, are you a stumbling block? As the world, the world has brought in these souls, the souls come in upon the land that they can understand, and the kind of land, the kind of incarnation. Supposing these children had been brought in to a high degree of love and peace and performance, and the homes of old where you sang hymns on Sundays, hmm, what would happen to them? They would not have fit it in, would they? But you did. And their children will fit in with the new age. But this is the price that they must pay. This is the kind of need that their soul had coming out of sheer desperation. And this is an experience that their soul needed. It has to have a place to gain it. And so they come in whenever they can gain that thing for which they need, and which you as their adults are happy to create for them. And you would say, but I tried to create the best I could, yes, but was the best good enough? Man lost his spiritual way long ago.
In a sensitive degree, he lost his spiritual way when he tried to grow a materialistic crop of children. Just think what you were taught a few years ago. Go west, young man. Get your fortune. That's your future. The mark of success about your life was how much you could gain of life's goods, wasn't it? The children today, do they care anything about this? No. If they can't find it, they'll steal it. They are typical modern gypsies. And yet, I presume with their mad music, their loose morals, and their distorted minds, they are serving the world. And this is an experience they had to get. In every history of every 300 years, at least every 25 years of that 300 years, there is going to be a new type of envelope. You can open it up, you can take your choice, and you can be what you want. They chose, and you're all here to see them. We hope you enjoy it. Bless you. We can handle a couple more questions. Bless you. In other words, travel our own individual path,
God guided. What did Jesus say? What is that to thee, follow thou me? You must, in, in, it's, you are your brother's keeper, yes. But the way you keep your brother aright is to keep yourself aright.
It's a difficult thing, we know. We can talk constantly to the parents of earth. And we see them unearth agonies within their hearts. But they gave them birth, and they came out of the distressed pattern that had need of service. But the children that have, are stuck in that since around 1950 or 52 are much different. They're very annoying. Well, yes, they are annoying at a young age these days because they have greater potential awareness than you have. You see, the children today have a greater potential. They're much more observant. They are educated in a much different way. You have never thought of, many of you have seen the kind of shows that they see. They go to movies they are indoctrinated in sex at four. Are they not? They have lost all of their thrills for the beautiful things of life by the time they're nine. Well, the good things then are to look forward. That's a very good question.
Let us look at, there are many good things that you can look forward to. Well, the good things then are to look forward. That's a very good question. Let us look, and there are many good things to look forward. At least, you'll never have to pass this kind of life again. That's a good thing, isn't it? Some of the other good things that you can look for is that you have had the great perceptive consciousness open up and that when you cross the line, beloved son, into your invisible consciousness, it will be opened and when you return, you will know what to ask for. You will not take things on blind faith. When you get into the relationship of a new consciousness, you're going to be aware of these things. You're going to look these things over. You're going to be predetermined in the fact that there is an eternity. You're not going to believe anyone, no flame preacher, no invisible ghost, no nothing. You're going to know it for yourself. And this is what
the Christ consciousness is. When you become aware of these particular things that you can ask questions, think of what has happened that you know that man can reestablish himself as he once before. Do you know that you were cut off from the other planets exactly as you cut Risha off from you? Do you know that Atlantis and Lemuria believed that these planets were made up of people? Where have you heard that before? We mustn't have these foreigners crowding out here anymore. And so they believe that and they absolutely cut off the influence of planetary people into their kingdoms. And then, of course, the scientists to make it look good, they said they weren't inhabited. Aren't you glad that this Earth has grown into space and to planets? There are thousands of people that lived that never even knew what a solar system was. See how good and glad you are, that you have made your world at least omnipotent once again. Oh, this Earth has offered you many things to help you get off your karmic
debts. And this is too good, because you can integrate yourself into the realization of that goodness and mercy can follow you all the days of your life and that you will dwell in the house of the law forever. And this in itself is the greatest thing in the world. When an old age dies, they have to have a funeral for it, and you are here to attend it. Now, when a new birth, you know we have a saying
here in the inner planes, that when a baby is born, we have to cry, because we have lost another soul to earth. And when someone comes back to us, when you who have finished your course and come back, we laugh and celebrate and throw a party for you. Absolutely, what happens? Just think all your friends get together and they say they're the best people in the world. And then you soon forget, because, just let me say this to you, any of you who have moved away from other communities, you said, I'll never forget you. Oh, I'll write you every week. I will come and be with you. I'll tell you those people who you sleep in. They were good friends of mine. And you drive up and down the street and you can't even remember their house. And yet, beloved ones, when you get over here a little while, you forget the experiences that you remember where you've been. And you keep saying, what am I here for? Don't you? Please tell me. What am I doing here? I assure each one of you that you're here for a good purpose or you've
never made it. And each one of you have a destiny of their own. And each of them has a destiny of their own. And every one of you will have a destiny of your own. And they will have the same destiny you have in your lives. and yet you see now they are coming back and the great masters of inner
light say they cannot tell because the souls of the children that come in today don't they want to be sexless you can't tell who's coming or going and this is
their wish they want to look like everybody else they do not want you think it's strange because they're not neat well they are really teaching you how to conventionally live they have shown you as the great master said that the coat and pants does all the work and they don't care about the gravy on the vest and that is exactly the way they look is it not but this is their age and beloved masters of light if you could see the blessing assurance of these wonderful children we feel sensitive for these are the
the concubines of the past these are the slave girls these are the men who were not allowed to speak a word who were
[01:35:00] Closing remarks
tortured and think of the children that still have to come through that went through the ghettos in your day that were burned at the stake think of the torture of all of you who have to live within your mind and how you yourself have been indoctrinated against the Japanese the Germans the races of man what is your life going to what is the consciousness you unless you can understand and come into this great privilege of a domain of wisdom that you can come and listen to those who will bring you a message of love and light this is your privilege
you have had a chance to make your soul right but they did not know they lost their lives upon the
battlefield they went places they did not wish to go they starved they walked the halls of corregidor
and who for and what for because they had the kind of stamina that they needed to give to you this particular gift of themselves and so when they become
problems in the minds of all of you but you were problems in the minds of many too many times and so let us bless old father mother god of light the ones who walk in who speak who open arms who touch the lighter right give to them the basis
of eternal hope bring to them the spaciousness of consciousness that can see beyond the horizon
of the darkest night and let them know with all thy children everywhere and all thy in past thousands millions wrapped into one let them know that no sun ever sets that does not rise again
no soul ever loses its way that does not have a chance to some warm kind hand reaching down
and showing them the way bless bleed to the invisible light made visible by each of you as you
speak the latest words of the guardian of god through you day by day blessed are they who
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