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1959 Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Daniel Fry On Telepathy P150

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

It doesn't seem that there's anything I can say now that would do anything except lower your opinion of me. Actually, as most of you probably know, I've been divided for a moment to speak a little bit about it today,

boring those of you who have heard me several times before. There are too many of you here. A long time ago, a Greek philosopher by the name of Aristotle,

whom I'm sure he wrote during his lifetime two principal theses in his youth and the second in his more mature years.

The first one he called Physics. In so doing, he today conceives of it. In this thesis, he began essentially with the statement matter was, and physicists have been starting at that point ever since. Now, the advanced physical thought says that perhaps before matter was, energy was.

Perhaps its universe consisted of energy before it became matter. But essentially, physics has always started with the statement matter was. And starting with that, starting from that point, Aristotle began to show the changes that took place in matter when energy was added to it. The total energy content was changed. Certain physical changes occurred. And having gone as high as he could, having added as much energy as he thought could be added, he thought he had gone as far as he could and he closed that particular work. He issued it and it was called Physics. And so the science of physics was born. But as he grew, a little older and a little bit wiser, it began to occur to him that perhaps there were a few things he had left out. And that perhaps he had started from the wrong place.

[03:00] Daniel Fry on telepathy

And so he decided to write a sequel to his first work. But in a sequel, instead of starting at the level of matter, he started at the top, at the level of energy, or spirit, or God. And he called them all key things and pointed out that this was a level. It was a level of existence upon which these things were found. And that actually this was where everything began. That matter was the final manifestation rather than the beginning point. And so he started from the top and he worked on it.

In his first thesis he had started from the bottom, matter was, and worked upward toward the level of energy, or spirit, or God. In his second thesis he started at the top, at the point he now said, where things actually do begin. And he worked downward toward matter as a final manifestation. But because this work came after his first work, and because it started above rather than below, he called it metaphysics. Merely meaning above and beyond physics. His first book. It was a sequel to his first book. It started at the top, so it was above and beyond his first time. He called it metaphysics. And so the study of metaphysics was begun. During his life and after his passing, and still, his followers or students of his works tended to choose one path or the other. Those who started at the bottom, what the statement matter was, and worked upward were called physicists, and still are. Those who started at the top and worked downward were called metaphysicians,

and they still are. It's exactly the same path no matter which way you follow it, except the starting point that you choose. And if you go far enough from either direction, you will come to similar conclusions. The laws concerned are identical in either case. If you progress far enough along this path, starting at either point, you will come to reference points or identification points which are identical. I'm not going to go into this too great a day, because I'm not supposed to take up too much time on this. We have a great number of good speakers. They're available today. But there is one that I usually make as a good illustration, because every physicist recognizes it. And we will let every metaphysician also recognize it. In physics today, we have a statement that the energy level upon which any nuclear particle exists, or any assembly of nuclear particles, or any assembly of atoms, the energy level upon which it exists is proportionate to its frequency.

Remember the name of Max Planck. Some years ago, he gave us a small decimal fraction by which we multiply the frequency of a particle in order to determine its energy level.

This man, Max Planck, today is written in physics books as being a great early physicist. Actually, he wasn't at all. He wasn't a physicist at all. He was a metaphysician. If you read his autobiography or the works written about him, you'll find that not only was he not considered to be a physicist during most of his lifetime, but that he was considered by most of his contemporaries to be one of the greatest crackpots unconfined. It's strange how much change a passing of a few years will bring. But he took a principle directly from metaphysics, and he made physics out of it, because he showed that it could be used for a practical purpose. Now the physicist says the level of energy is proportionate to the frequency. And the metaphysician says the degree of development,

the level of energy upon which any particle, any being, any individual exists, is proportionate to its rate of vibration. Now, if you can find any difference between a rate of vibration and a frequency, I don't know what it is. They are identical terms. The two branches of thought are still using different words, writing different words, but they are synonymous. They mean exactly the same thing. The physicist says the level of energy or the level of achievement is proportionate to the frequency. The metaphysician says it's proportionate to the rate of vibration. So it is a reference point which both have reached. The significant thing is that physics has reached that point only during the last few decades. It wasn't accepted at all when it was first performed. It was only finally accepted when it was shown that this was a very useful tool in mathematics and physics. But it's been accepted only a few decades by physics.

It has been preached for thousands of years by metaphysicians, illustrating only the point that this is a truth, this is a fact which you reach very soon if you start at the top. This is a fact that exists, that is manifest close to the level of energy, close to the level of spirit. And so if you start at that level, you come to that conclusion fairly soon. But if you start at the level of matter, you have to go a long ways of that path until you get to a point where you recognize that is true. And so it illustrates a certain precise reference point on this path, which you will eventually reach no matter which end you start. There are many more, but I won't go into them today. But the point that I'm making is this is the same path whichever end you choose to start. And both physics and metaphysics are beginning to realize.

There has in the past been not much respect lost to these two pathways of thought. The physicist says, Oh, I don't want anything to do with that metaphysician. He's working out there in the area where there are no proofs, working in the field where there are no proofs, only interested in things that can be proven. But when he says that, the thing that he forgets is that the minute that metaphysician gets some proofs, the metaphysicist immediately seizes upon that thing and makes it a part of the body of physics. The minute the metaphysician gets the proof, and it's usually the metaphysician who gets the proof, because the physicist doesn't want to intrude in that field at all. If you go through history closely, biographies, reading contemporary literature, you'll find that practically every great so-called discovery in physics was actually made by a metaphysician. They're called physicists now, but they weren't considered to be physicists during the day.

They were working in fields and areas where there were no proofs, but they managed to get some proofs. And immediately that material became physical. Almost all of the so-called great physicists of history today were actually metaphysicians. About 90 to 95% of everything that we call physics today was metaphysics 100 years ago. And so we are beginning to realize in science, St. Pat, we have great difficulty in physics

in reaching beyond the limit of the five senses. Many people still have great difficulty in going beyond that point. They tend to draw a circle around what we call reality. We say this much is real. Everything outside of this area is unreal. It doesn't really exist. It's unreal. Therefore it can have no significance concerning my life. I'm not interested in anything out of the circle because it isn't real. It can't have any significance. Everyone tends to do it. Even some fairly advanced thinkers tend to draw that circle of reality. I have never met any two people who drew that circle in exactly the same place. Actually, it doesn't exist at all. The place where we draw that line illustrates only one thing. It shows the degree of awareness and consciousness which we ourselves have achieved. It's the only thing. The place where we draw that circle indicates it. It has no existence. Reality is infinite in every direction.

When we put a limit on it, it's an arbitrary limit. It shows our own degree of advance. The beginner, the beginning thinker, and those who do comparatively little thinking usually tend to draw that line somewhere about at the limit of the five senses. They say, if I can't see it, feel it, hear it, smell it, or taste it, it doesn't exist. It isn't real. It isn't real, and therefore it can have no significance. Why should I be interested? Many times that's probably why so many people die of carbon monoxide poisoning. Because you can't see it, feel it, hear it, smell it, or taste it. But if you breathe it, you will be just as dead as if it were real. You can't see nuclear radiation. You can't feel it, hear it, smell it, or taste it. But enough of it will kill you. And the smallest amount will have some effect. Let's take a quick look at the amount of reality that we accept if we say that all reality is reached by the five senses.

We say, and many people will say, well, I can't see that. Therefore it can't exist. If it could exist, I could see it. It isn't real unless I can see it. What do we mean when we say we see something? Electromagnetic radiation, which we call light, is reflected from or emitted by that object. It reaches this complicated series of photoelectric cells that we call an eye, and it's converted there into a minutely modulated galvanic current on the optic nerve to the brain, and the brain perceives this intelligence, and we say we see it. But what portion of that total electromagnetic spectrum can our eyes discern? We see electromagnetic radiation. A portion of it we call light. All of it that we can see we call light. How much of it can we really see? If you go into any engineering concern, you'll find somewhere there a spectrum of electromagnetic radiation. They're drawn out, and various companies distribute them for use,

and they go from cosmic ray frequencies up to long radio waves. And these are drawn logarithmically so that each section is a molecule of the one before, so that you can get them all on one chart without the chart being too large. But if you drew that chart linearly in the way in which it's usually drawn, it would be about 40 feet long. The length of it which you can see would be about 2 inches long. You can actually see about 2 inches out of a 40-foot spectrum, a known spectrum today, a spectrum that's known and used every day by science. You can see about 2 inches of it. So that's the proportion of reality that you would be accepting, the known and used reality today that you would be accepting if you said anything isn't real unless I could see it. You would be confining yourself to 2 inches out of a 40-foot span. Say today that there is no sound unless we can hear it. There's an old philosophical argument about that.

It's about whether a tree falling in the forest would make a noise if there were no one there to hear it. Well, of course, that argument depends entirely upon the definition you apply to the word sound. There's no question that the air would vibrate when the tree landed just as it does when there's an ear there to receive that vibration. But whether we call that sound if it's not perceived or not is the bone of contention or the crux of the argument. But people will say, oh, I can't hear anything. Therefore, there can't be any sound. There can't be any vibration there because I don't hear it. And anything, any sound that I can't hear isn't real. It isn't a real sound. Well, if we adopt this viewpoint, then we have to say that every dog whistle in the world is a metaphysical instrument because when we blow it, we don't hear anything. But the dog does, and to him it's just as normal a sound as any sound that we hear.

If we go a little bit higher in frequencies, reach a point where no, living ear responds. We would say, well, finally now there is no sound here. This has become unreal. There's nothing here anymore because no intelligence can respond to it. We create with oscillating crystals, tonic frequencies from 100 to 500 kilocycles, 500,000 cycles per second. We can't hear those sounds at all. But we do many things in the laboratory with it, including drilling holes in the hardest of steels, or odd-shaped holes that have to be drilled in hard steels. We now have means of doing it with ultrasonic frequencies. So these unreal sounds that aren't real because you can't hear them will still penetrate steel. They'll shape it, drill it. So we find that the reality, the unreality can become very real when we find out how to approach it. All of our senses are exceedingly limited. They contact a very tiny portion of the now known reality.

And if we say that the things that our senses don't reach are unreal,

then we have enclosed ourselves in an exceedingly small and exceedingly tight prison from which there can be no escape because we ourselves have created it. We have more than five senses.

We speak usually of the five senses, the five human senses. And we say that some people may have a mysterious sort of a thing which we call a sixth sense, which some people can use once in a while with remarkable results. I have said in many lectures that everyone has more than five senses, which everyone uses every day. Usually when I say that, frequently someone will say, well, point out to me one of these senses. Demonstrate. A sense that everyone has and everyone uses every day, which is not seeing, feeling, hearing, smelling, or tasteful. And when that occurs, I will say, all right, if you will close your eyes for a moment, I'll demonstrate the sense. When the person has, I will say, open your eyes and tell me how much time elapsed between those two counts.

The person will say four seconds or five seconds. It will be somewhere near the correct amount. And I will say, how did you know? How did you know it wasn't a minute? How did you know it wasn't a year? Did you see the time? Did you feel it? Did you hear it? Did you smell it? Or did you taste it? Which one of your five senses kept track of the lapse of time and told you how much it was? Well, sometimes there will be an attempt to rationalize this. The person will say, oh, the subconscious mind keeps track of the number of heartbeats or the number of breaths or some other physiological function, and by comparison has an idea of the time. But it is well known that anyone can easily train itself to awaken at a precise time in the morning, no matter what time he goes to bed and no matter what the conditions under which he sleeps. Now, under such conditions, all of the physiological functions are constantly varying in frequency.

The beating of the heart changes in frequency from time to time. It depends on exterior conditions. It depends on what time you went to bed, how tired you were, how soft the bed is that you're lying in, what the room temperature is, how much oxygen there is in it,

[22:00] Development of the telepathy theme

the air, all of these things control the rate of heartbeat, the rate of breathing, the rate of all of the physiological functions while you're asleep. And yet you will awake at that precise moment when you reach it in the morning. Which one of the five senses stayed awake overnight and kept track of the lapse of time so as to awaken you at the proper moment? I defy anyone to see time, to hear it, to feel it, to smell it, or to taste it. But everyone has a sense of elapsed time, which everyone uses, not only every day, but continuously. We constantly use sense that we have, and yet we ignore it. Say, man has only five senses. We ignore it simply because we are not yet aware of exactly where it is located or how it operates. In the case of the five senses, we know where they are located. We know a little something at least about how they operate. So we list them because we know something about them. We don't know anything about the sense of elapsed time,

and so we prefer to ignore it. Unfortunately, we prefer to ignore almost everything about which we have little knowledge. And so we say that man has five senses. Actually, he has more, quite a few more, which everyone has and everyone uses every day. We hear talk of telepathy, transmission of intelligence, knowledge, or information directly from one mind to another, and we think of this as being something quite rare. Something which happens only to a few individuals and then only happens once in a while. We have enough documented cases to show that it is a science, that it does exist, and Dr. J.B. Ryan, I think, has produced enough evidence during his years of work to convince anyone who is willing to examine that evidence that there can no longer be any question whatever that it does occur. People think this is an acceptable thing, that it happens only to a few people and only once in a while. And again, I have made the statement that

I don't believe there is a human being on earth whose mind is not in direct contact with one or more other minds during every day of his life. At intervals. Usually they are very brief intervals. The frequency of the transmission tends to go up and down. The frequency changes. The practice or the improvement in the ability to receive

in the manner that we call telepathically consists almost entirely of controlling the frequency at which the transmitting organism operates and the receiving and keeping the two together at the same frequency. If you had a radio transmitter, as we built them during the war, military use, there was a transmitter which had a rotation between the capacitor plate, motor driven, carried the frequency of that transmission up and down over about one octave. And you couldn't pick that up with any kind of receiver at all unless you had a receiver identically the same which also had a motor driven capacitor which operated the tuner. And when you did, they were synchronized. The frequency of the transmitter was constantly going up and down and so was the tuning of the receiver. And when they were synchronized you could transmit and receive very easily. They were built, of course, for the purpose of preventing intersection of our messages

by any enemy receiver. But a good deal of the same thing happens in the emission from the frequency

drifts. It drifts up and down. And the tuning for the receptive frequency also drifts up and down. And when the two happen to meet the frequency momentarily, transmission will take place. How many of you, in going about your daily work, doing something, or perhaps reading or some other work, have suddenly had a word or maybe two words or maybe a phrase pop into your mind and come in so strongly and so loudly that it sounds almost as though you heard it, as though you heard it said. Something that had no connection whatever with anything that you were thinking about before. And you stop a moment and you think, well now, where did that come from? Where did that come from? I wasn't thinking anything like that. And suddenly this word came out just as loudly as though it was spoken, clearly. Sometimes it's a word, sometimes it's a few words, a few disconnected words, sometimes it's an entire sentence. I don't think there's anyone who hasn't experienced this.

But they don't realize where it's coming from. The contact between mind and mind is so short that it hasn't brought enough information or intelligence to indicate that it was something that was coming from. And so, you know, you can't just say, well it was. And so, the person stops and wonders a moment and goes on about their presence and thinks no more about it. Perhaps later the same day the same thing will happen. Some other word, some other phrase. Sometimes complete pictures, sometimes complete intelligence. It all depends on the frequency of the two minds remaining the same. If they become locked together, if they are going down or if they become locked together, then quite a bit of transmission and communication can take place. And so, you know, sometimes communication can take place. But even then, as a rule, the individual receiving it will not know. He has no way of knowing from whom he received that or even knowing that he received it

from another mind. And so this thing that goes on constantly every day for the fact that every one of us is normally just ignored. We wonder about it a little sometimes when it's rather starting. When we get a concept or a word or a phrase of our previous thought and it startles us for a moment and we think a bit about it and it's just one of those things and so we forget about it. I think everyone in contact talks about it with one or two or three or a dozen minds every day of their life. Usually, they don't realize. There are a few places in the world where you can go and you can learn to receive device with any kind of transmitting and when you do you can go anywhere and see anything that you bring your body along and at this point 90% of the average people would say oh now this is no longer reality. No one can go there. These people can teach anyone. One little catch you have to have somewhere between four and seven years in which you are willing to devote

entirely to that without thinking one other thought without doing one other thing. If you are willing to spend from four to seven years of your life in the pursuit of that one ability they can teach anyone to do it. You don't have to have any special qualifications except that one. If you are willing to forget everything else in life except that from four to seven years there aren't too many people who would be willing to do it. So there aren't too many people who receive this ability but there are a few. We were speaking of reality and the areas of reality. If I were to have come before to have said that there is sweeping through every cubic inch of this room every minute of the day and night at least one thousand channels of precise and specific information which any one of you can reach and touch and make their own. If I had said that a hundred years ago I probably would have been confined to a mental case. Today it's perfectly safe to say it because today

I know that almost every cell of the world that concerns this system has been opened up by my friends and family and all of us who are losing our lives and who hear all the noise and have to pay their own taxes and you have locations you can pick them up by the hundreds if you tune up a little farther you can come into a police band and you can hear the police of various cities going about their duties

pursuit of criminals in the description so in cars these are all precise channels of information you up a little farther you'll come to the aircraft band you can hear pilots speaking to each other actually this should have come before the previous band i'm not getting you exactly the right order but you can hear pilots of aircraft describing your altitude their direction the humidity the visibility where they last their cough and where they propose to land and again these are all precise channels of information if you go up a little farther you get into the broadcast band and you'll begin to get entertainment to music and commercials and i'd have to qualify this a little bit i wouldn't say that commercials are necessarily specific or precise sources of information but at any rate you can contact you can derive from them whatever you choose it illustrates the fact that every one of those channels of information is

passing through every cubic inch of this the air in this room it is a great underestimate

exceedingly concerned that there are actually tens of thousand information passing through this room because every single transmitter transmitting a radio wave is producing the signal which is going this particular set that i have may not be able to

amplify it sufficiently to make it out of it but it's coming through there we sent a space probe up a few months ago and on it we had a transmitter which we called a five watt transmitter the actual power into the antenna was about two watts it's consuming five watts but the radiation power was about two watts we followed that space probe we picked up its signals that two watts of transmitter

the earth is only twenty five thousand a weight is only about twelve thousand and the weakest amateur station now starts at about fifty watts every single signal that is created on this earth

is passing through this room today if we had sufficiently precise receiving equipment we could

pick up any one of them information are all available right here tonight choose anyone we want and we can do whatever we want if you've got a radio transmitter and we have information available right here tonight we choose anyone we want and we can get the signal for that

make that information off. If I were to go one step farther and say perhaps there is one other channel among all of these tens of thousands of channels, one other channel of information which is available but which this set will not tune or any other radio set that has been built and yet that channel can be reached, can be contacted and has precise usable information.

50 percent of the average public at that time would say oh now you've stepped across the line of reality. Now this is no longer real. Radios we can accept as real but this other channel now isn't real. It's a peculiar thing that no matter how many times you force the reality of a person outward, no matter how many times you force them to revise this area which they call reality, the only times you show that it was artificially limited and they have to expand it, the next time they come to that line they'll walk again. Each individual case

is forced off. They come to oh now and now this is available to anyone to make use of it. It has sufficient

desire to make the effort. Additional channels of information and they have been tapped by

all of the greatest people on earth, the truly great people. We hear many times the statement or the implication that the study of metaphysics is a study that is interesting only to ignorant

people, superstitious people, the unlearned. Again we have to... We have to examine history. The real leaders in this field are every truly great man in

history. If you examine his autobiography, contemporary writings, if you examine the

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life of Leonardo da Vinci, Benjamin Franklin, you can take any one of them at random. Men are not talking about just experts in one field. We have many experts in fields. I'm talking about truly great men who stood head and shoulders above their contemporaries in a large number of fields. You will find that... Every one of them had one thing in common, but the existence of these precise channels of specific information and every one of them made use of it. And every one of them, not

only on one occasion, but on many occasions, had attributed the majority of their success to their ability to information. Truly great men. If I could quote, I'm going to take a

chance on doing it just once more. You can find these quotations in a book called Seeds

of Liberty by Max Segal. You can get it in any good public library. It's not a book of the occult. It's not a book of metaphysics. It's a book of biography of early American patriots. Biography of early American patriots. But it has the advantage that they did quote verbatim

some of the speeches that were made by some of those early American patriots. You will find some very interesting. Dr. David Rittenhouse, in 1775, before the American Philosophical

Society in Philadelphia. How many of you know of the... Dr. David Rittenhouse, he isn't largely mentioned in school book history because he was neither a soldier nor a politician. And in general, our school book histories speak only of soldiers and politicians. But he was one of the most respected men on earth in his time. He was one of the world's greatest astronomers, physicists, and philosophers. In 1775, he was speaking before the American Philosophical Society and he was asked a question. He was asked for his opinion concerning the possibility of the existence of the world's greatest astronomers. Are you aware of the potential of this kind of knowledge? Of the grand question? Of extraterrestrial life and intelligence? And the possibility of obtaining assistance from it that should be necessary. Very strange question. We hear it every day. It's a question which millions of people

are asking today. Yet this question was asked and answered by one of the effective thinkers in 1775. David Rittenhouse's answer to that question went something like this. Neither religion nor philosophy forbids us to believe that infinite wisdom is possible when we are born. But if you can do the same to the greatest of us, then you can accomplish anything you and power prompted by infinite goodness may throughout the vast extent of creation and duration have frequently interposed in a manner quite incomprehensible to us and have become

necessary to the happiness of created beings of some other rank or degree far indeed the inhabitants of other planets may resemble man we cannot pretend to say if like man they were created liable to fall yet some if not all of them may still retain their original rectitude we will hope that they do have taught us company if they resemble man in their attitudes and affections let us suppose that they govern themselves at all times according to the dictates of that wisdom with which they were endowed by their creator that was just a little bit of sarcasm here because he was pointing out that we certainly do not and never have and yet logically we should let us assume that they govern themselves at all times according to the dictates of that wisdom of which they were endowed by their creator in such a manner as to consult at all times their own and each other's true happiness now what could be more logical than that to consult at all times our own and each other's

true happiness yet how many times do we do it that their statesmen are patriots

and that their kings if that order of being has found admittance there have the feeling of humanity happy people and perhaps more happy still that all communication with us is denied by dr david rittenhouse in the martin philosophical society in the 1970s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 75 answer to a question which millions of people are asking me today this is the first time you can ask if you get that book you'll also find another interesting talk this time by benjamin franklin and i'm sure you've all heard of ben giving a talk one night against the importation of colored slaves this practice which

was beginning even at the time of benjamin franklin and he was speaking against that practice but he took a rather peculiar way of doing it he pointed out first that the white race is actually a minority race that we don't like to think too much about but which is still true we are a minority race and he said i could wish our numbers were larger therefore while we are so busily scouring

our forests of their trees just in sidelight because it showed that even in the time of benjamin franklin there were forced conservationists and were concerned about the rate of which we were destroying the forest while we are so busily scouring our forests of their trees and thereby presenting a brighter view of our new continent to the inhabitants of mars and venus why should we at the same time by our dark deeds darken ourselves in the eyes of superior beings seeds of liberty by maxi will he wasn't making an argument on the existence of

life and intelligence on the planets he knew it was trying to accept it he was using that fact as an argument against something else but note that he took three things for granted first that there was service we couldn't possibly darken ourselves at the time

we're superior beings because he specifically said so again we can look way back there

in history and find asking today too many people here are asking the question they've

already satisfied themselves on that point but there are millions of people who have not so again

find that and usually dismisses the fact i think if he approaches with just a little bit of

like contempt but and yet on the other hand we find that the greatest of the leaders they've been

perhaps i've covered we're going to have to get into we've about eliminated the abilities in

physics we've examined most of the possibilities of the five senses of this little tight bread and a wider field