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1959 April 4th Inglewood Unit 15 Of Understanding Calvin Girvin P158

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

It certainly opened my eyes quite a bit.

Well, he had this report in detail, and then a lady, some days later, she too saw one land, quite large, and she described it to him as a triangle, and he drew a picture of a bell-shaped craft, and she said, well, how did you know? Did you see it too? Because that's exactly what it looked like. Now, these people, he stated, they were not new to this story of flying saucers, but they had read some books on it, I suppose, or they had been informed in some way, but they were reporting what they'd seen, and as far as radar or radio interference, television interference, there was quite a bit of it going on. There were five other reports of sightings in that area, and this first object that I made mention of was the one that I was quite interested in, because he said they had finally arrived at finding out what this object was doing, that because of the very, very clear radio reception in that area that evening,

that there was a magnetic disturbance of some kind. That was quite evident, because never at this time of night does anyone, in that area, receive radio so clearly, and yet, prior to this object, it was coming in just like a bell, like you were right in the station itself. But then, all of a sudden, this object shows up, and radio and television are all, well, nobody can get anything. And I said, well, what was, what did happen? What was this object doing? Well, they were measuring. They were measuring a vortex, a magnetic disturbance in that area. And that this was the logical time to make such measurements. And that he went into quite a number of technical details that were completely new to me or foreign to me. And I said, well, how do you know this? Did it land? Did you make contact? No. But we were in contact with it. And I asked him how. And it was just as simple as that. Why, we, we, now don't, please, don't,

don't take, don't take this. I mean, you might, you better grab hold of your chair. It was just as so, a matter of fact, well, we, we asked the Ouija board. Now, this, this is quite interesting. I, of course, I laughed, too. And I said, yes, I can just see it now. When I worked back at, at Washington, D.C., and the command post were in all of General LeMay and General Twining and General Smith and all of our generals, and the Air Force would come down to the war room, and sometimes they had some pretty, pretty slender faces. They were doing some very deep thinking. Could it be possible that if I could look back to this section at this very time, I would see General LeMay and perhaps General Twining sitting down on, on a Ouija board?

Well, there was a statement made by somebody. You mightn't be too far from the truth. And then, of course, another person said, well, I sort of figured that out for the past ten years. It sort of looked as though this country was being run from a Ouija board anyway. But, believe me, there are all, there are all kinds of, of people in the world. This we know to be a fact because we have never, ever met anyone

[04:00] Calvin Girvin's main address

that we could say was identical to us in our appearance, in our thinking, in our habits, anything else. That we are all very different. And I understand there are somewhere between two and a half or more billion people living on the face of this planet. As one astronomer expressed himself, that this planet has developed a disease which is called the human beings. And that gradually, little bit by bit, they have, they have gnawed and picked their way around this whole globe. And that, heaven knows now just, just what will happen. He referred to the human species as a disease that spread around the globe. I thought in one way, perhaps, depending on your, as Dan would say, your point of reference, would, it was a pretty good way of looking at it in some cases anyhow. Well, the Air Force are interested in flying saucers. That was quite evident. When I was in the Air Force, I had been out almost three years. And it's quite evident by talking to many people,

meeting many people as I did this past two months, that the Air Force is still interested in flying saucers. The Army has a project also. They have their project or saucer research, as does the Navy. And I don't know exactly, I don't know exactly, I don't know exactly, when the proper time would be to enlighten the people of this world as to the reason for flying saucers. But it is groups such as this, in a very small way, in the past, have been attempting to enlighten the people of the world. And that these organizations are springing up all over the country. They are springing up all around the world. And that if there is an organization, a mother organization who has many groups out in the fields or in outlying districts, cities, states working for them, that if they are not active and are really selling this program, that alongside of them will come other organizations, perhaps, that might in time overshadow them.

And the ones that started out in the field, the ones that started out in the field, might start going back down again. I wouldn't want to see this happen in this particular case or in any case. Because this information is needed. People are wanting it. People are starved to death for this information. Believe me. We are, I am one of the, I'm on the staff of a radio program that is called Galaxy. I do not know how many people in this area have heard of Galaxy. I do not know how many people in this area have heard of Galaxy. It is a program to provoke thinking. Our opening lines are a program unique that may affect the lives of all people, even you. And we go into space phenomena. And we have interviews with space beings from other planets. And we present this on radio. And it's being accepted by thousands, or was accepted by thousands of people in the San Fernando, and people coming over into the San Fernando Valley

every Sunday evening for a period of 15 minutes to listen to this radio, or coming over to listen to a 15-minute radio program, and then having flying saucer parties. This was happening to engineers from Rocketdyne and many of the other aircraft or rocket and missile plants in the valley. I know this to be a fact because I have some rather interesting connections along those lines. We, too, sort of fell into a period of drowsiness, but thank goodness our eyes and minds

and hearts were opened. And within the next couple of weeks, Galaxy will be going out over the air on about 30 radio stations over the East Coast. And if it is acceptable in that particular area, that there will be 225 additional radio stations standing by to pick it up. And that they are not, that we will not have to pay those radio stations, as they are. We did, in the case of paying KBLA, present this material, but they will pay us, which will give us time to prepare more programs, to become more active, to spread this into television, to spread it into motion picture, if possible, which I think it is needed. And by doing this, we will be able to, in some cases, we will be approached by organizations such as Understanding, maybe OSI, a different organization somewhere in the East or in the South, or maybe even Understanding itself, and saying that we would like to sponsor Galaxy for the next 13 weeks, and be in a position to afford

to pay for the radio time. That would be very, very wonderful. And then they, too, could say, we have our magazines, we have our books, we have lectures, and so forth and so on. We have to get active, because if we don't, we mightn't have too much time, unless we, if we get active now, a little later on, we mightn't be in a position to get active, believe me. Just little by little, our, so it seems anyway, our liberties, in some cases, are being taken from us. And the reason for that, of course, is very simple, that we take so much for granted, and we just, well, they won't count my vote anyhow, I suppose, or my vote won't count, or whatever. But it does, it's very important. I spent eight years, a total of eight years in the service of our country, fighting for what we call freedom of, our freedom of expressing ourselves, whether it be religion, newspaper, voice, or whatever. And when I was over in the war areas, there were many times I saw that,

that piece of very beautiful material that is red, white, and blue with a field of stars being pulled up onto a little pole. It didn't matter what kind in some cases. And it gave me a pretty wonderful feeling. It gave me a feeling of security that knowing someday I will be going back home, thank God, and I will be able to go where I want to, say the things I want to, and so forth. And there again on this tour, at every meeting, every lecture, talk that I addressed,

or every group that I did address, I mentioned that it would be very nice that if this flag, this American flag of ours, could be seen a little more often. And what would be a better place for it to be seen than at such meetings? It's food for thought, anyhow. Well, folks, I don't know. I could go on and on and on. I know the time is slipping by. These seats are not too comfortable. But I've sat on them myself at times. And I appreciate how you must feel. Well, if I have said anything, of course, that I meant well, should I say, in everything that I have stated. This wasn't too entertaining a talk. But some of it was... It's true. It's as truth as it actually is. That we have to get going with this thing, and we're going to get going. And I think all of us understand and appreciate that in some way or another. That we cannot... This is not a social group of function, but this is an activity that we have to be active in.

We have to all be working parts of this machine of understanding. Because if... If we are not, we mightn't have it. We might lose it. If there would be any questions of any kind, I would be very happy. Yes, ma'am. No, I do not believe that our scientific or our technology at present has caught up to the saucer as yet.

But I am aware of the fact that saucers are landing at various military bases over the world. And are making these things known to the people who run these bases, to the governments of these countries. That yes, here is what we build. Now, if you accept this message of love and brotherhood, and to live not only for yourself, but for your fellow man, to love one another, as most religions teach, basically.

That if... These can be yours. Now, here, we'll take you and show you around in them. And they go and get in them. Air Force brass, Navy brass, Army brass. Officials getting in saucers and taking rides in them. And so forth and so on. These things, they can be proven.

Well, no, it's... You see, there are many... There are many reasons why saucers appear over certain areas at certain times. You take in the event that you are... Say you are the captain of a ship. And you... You have quite a bit of finances tied up into this huge ship. And you're going to sail down through the South Pacific. And you're going to make four or five stops at several of the islands. And in doing so, you will want to know... You will want to have a charted course. Because when you start going into coral reefs to anchor at some port, or even on your trip through the South Pacific, you will want to know, or want to have a charted course to direct you there, so that you will arrive safe and sound. And that your ship will not be destroyed or lost on this trip. Well, it's the same case as our flying saucers. One of the first things, a friend of mine who was a scientist, he made the statement, well, if these are flying saucers and they're coming in from outer space, how do they fly?

And the first thing that he recognized was that they must fly magnetically. And if so, if they are using a magnetic principle in their propulsion, that they would be... They would be interested in knowing and charting the magnetic flow surrounding this planet,

wanting to know where the vortices or vortexes or whatever you want to call them are, whether they are spiraling up or going down, because if they're going to fly through them or pass through them or nearby them, that they could lose their ships. And they don't necessarily want to lose something that means...

Well, yes. It is a known fact, magnetically speaking anyway, that at 12 o'clock midnight,

magnetically speaking, the magnetic conditions or influences surrounding this planet are at their maximum.

Now, I don't know what would be the proper operational time for their saucers to be active, but I do know that at 12 midnight, we are at our maximum. At 12 noon, we are at our minimum. And it would depend on what they were mapping, I suppose.

As in most cases, people see saucers at night. I have seen them in the broad daylight also. Yes, Dan? I'm receiving notices every night that this craft had been observed at 10.23 sharp,

why, he could logically say that perhaps at 10.23 on the next night, it would also be certain. Yes, that's very true. Well, yes, ma'am. Mr. Calvin, I take for granted then what you say that the command from the Air Force and Army through the years to shoot at any UFOs has evidently been withdrawn.

Oh, it was within hours after that order was given. Oh, was that so? Oh, yes. You see, in 1952, there was such a concentrated sighting of these saucers over Washington, D.C., Oh, was that so? over restricted areas where no aircraft, of course, is allowed to fly of any kind. And that they were a little, should we use the term, shook up at that time. And our president at that particular time didn't know what to do. And the instructions were, shoot them down. But that was retracted within hours. It would be repellent.

Well, this intelligence... This intelligence officer told me that at the closing days of the Korean conflict, this police action, I believe they called it, that saucers by the hundreds were seen in that area of the world every day and night. And over Japan, there were a group of, oh, something like 15, 20 of them in a group. They saw them on radar. They set up a flight of planes, of jets to intercept and to chase them. And they just turned around and disappeared like that. And the jets came back down on the field again and landed. And here they are back on radar again. So the captain of this, or the group leader of this squadron of planes said, You five planes go up the way we just went up. And I'll go out and up over the clouds and come in from the top. Now, evidently, this boy was, he had, he had something on his mind. The five, the five came up. The five came up, you know. And he went out and come around.

Now, these planes were armed. The boy that was flying this plane on top of the cloud formation looked down and he saw every one of these objects. And he said he was scared. He was scared. And he came in as close as he possibly could and just as cautious as he possibly could. And he reached over to push the button that would activate his rockets. And it went like that. And they were gone. Just like that. They didn't. Now, this intelligence, the intelligence that operates saucers are, they are advanced technically to a point that if they want to read your mind, they can. And they have, yes. So, here this, he was going to get himself a trophy, I believe. I mean, I think that was his intention. Yes, sir. . Yes, Stan.

Are they able to understand him? Get ready to feel it in a magnetic field, I believe.

But, I mean, do they? How do they explain how we can duplicate too? And that's just because the simplest way of explaining two races, one in central Africa and one in Australia, which have not yet achieved the.

They still depend on the stone axe experience and food.

If we were to take one of our modified jet aircraft from pilots and fly that aircraft into those areas that control it, all, of us, make one prediction. . areas and land among those people and attempt to explain to those people the laws of thermodynamics and aerodynamics that prevent the operation of our craft we wouldn't get very far it wouldn't have much success and it wouldn't make any difference how intelligent those people were we still couldn't explain to them because the words necessary to explain do not yet exist in their language and we began to talk to them of the impact of the molecules of the air on the underside of the wings succeeding the impact on the upper side we use some pressure differential up there differential what is pressure what are molecules what is there you would have to teach them imperative languages yeah i understand i got another question if you don't mind yes

this captain uh he said he had made it his business to study these ufos for the past seven years i believe yes was that on his own or that was that official that uh he didn't make it his business and he was able to figure it out on his own uh he didn't make it his business business. That was a misquote. The Air Force made it his business. Oh, he had been instructed to do that. May I ask another question there? Sure. You said that he knew what the purpose was that night, and this boy observed this bell-shaped thing, and that he was sort of amassed, you were, about saying that he got it on the Ouija board. I understand the, I've used the Ouija board myself about 40 years ago, and they're rather slow motion. I understood that the saucer man had been communicating with us telepathically, which would be much quicker. Well, very, very true, but I would have to have this captain here to explain his reasons why he used the Ouija board.

This seems to... I thought maybe he was pulling your leg. Well, it's quite possible. Maybe he was. Maybe he was pulling your leg. Did you use the Ouija board? I've tried it, but I've never been... It takes a long time to get a sense of it. Yes. Much slower than that. Why did they send home tells and say it's insane? Well, I think it was just... I don't want to imply that I overstepped any bounds anywhere along the way. I was sort of hoping that I would. But this was a friendly gesture on their part. You know, there are many thoughts going on in the world, and one of them is this. Well, to illustrate it, I think most of us could appreciate this, is when your little boy would come up to you and say, Daddy, where did I come from? Or how did I get here? Explain to me from the beginning until the end the process of my being here, if he would ask a question in that way. And in most cases you would say, well, the stork bunch. Well,

well, gee whiz, well, you mean I was in that diaper and in the bill? I mean, now this... Some children, you know, small children, are very intelligent, and they ask very intelligent questions, and they can put you on the spot. I know that. And to explain to this chap, this little boy that the stork brought him,

is that he might accept that for the time being. Well, the Air Force is telling us, no, this isn't so. These flying saucers, we have a small percent that we can't explain. So perhaps they are in the stages of this little boy, or the father explaining to the little boy. But also, the father knows different in his mind about his origin, about his being here. And someday, when this boy gets to the proper age, that Papa will tell him. And I think, in some cases, there are people who talk to the public in such a way, on the subject of flying saucers. And I'm not trying to imagine this, but I hope this to be a fact, that the Air Force is interested into what these people are saying, and that they do have men, or women, or whoever they might be, I don't know, in the group to listen to, see what this chap has to say. And I believe someday, when this, when this thing breaks, that there might be an awful lot of congratulations this month.

[27:00] Flying saucer themes and interpretation

I surely hope so. Well, folks, yes, Dan. Almost every lecture,

many people have asked me, well, what means would you suggest to apply to attempt communication? Should we use shortwave radio? Should we use infrared light beam receivers? Should we use Ouija boards? And I usually say, well, use whatever instruments you have the most confidence in. And I think, I think,

I think,

I think,

I think, uh somebody would uh or your telephone would ring say when you get home this evening and and you pick it up and say hello and you're having a conversation with somebody and the you hang the phone up and your wife said to evil now um uh who was that oh well that was that was the boss he told me i could have tomorrow off i just talked to the boss well we accept that as fact that you did not talk to the boss that if you would have gone out on that wire outside of your house all you would have picked up was a little bunch of impulses going across that wire you wouldn't have heard him but it came into that receiver and was uh was it the receiver was activated that the receiver gave the vibration and that was uh in essence his voice and uh that a lot of people that uh that say well this can't be this business of mental telepathy or a tensor beam or whatever these boys in claw imply or employ as to getting their messy

or their conversation over to the people these things can't be but uh then they'll say well i

don't tell me i just talked to him on the telephone well yes you did but it uh it's a little more complicated than what you even believed if you want to get down to the down right down to the fine points that you did not talk to him on the telephone that you received his impulse the impulses were sent out in vibrations that went out across the wire and at the other end they were by a mechanical device and you held that to your ear and you heard that mechanical device being activated and it came out and hello how are you well folks uh yes ma'am

well that is quite true after looking at these maps uh from 54 through 59 uh the pattern here in the united states itself is growing constantly every year this mass these group masses are spreading out and uh they are uh it's quite interesting to note that from a from a position in new york i think somewhere about troy new york uh through to san diego on that parallel there seems to be the most uh the concentrated uh area of that uh in all of the periods of from 55 54 through to 59 and

i would say yes very definitely uh people of course are looking up they're hearing more of this more people are reporting uh we have things going around our own planet that people are looking for and when they're out there looking they're going to see something sometimes not always uh sputniks or uh explorers or whatever while i see we have our president here ready with the tickets and i looks like somebody's going to get something here drawing for the

door prize now um we didn't get our tickets we didn't get our tickets Oh. Oh, anyone who hasn't gotten any tickets or... As you come in the door, you'll notice there is usually a basket. Tonight we have this thing for donations. Calvin brought out a point in his lecture that I thought was very good tonight.

The fact that in order to be an active club, we do have to have finances. So many times it's asked, what do you do with your donations? Of course, most of the times we don't get enough donations.

So many people don't realize that there is a lot of work and money involved in putting out a lecture. We do have the rental of the hall.

This hall is rented. You see the Isaac Walton people have to... They have to have their money because they own it, and in giving it out, they have to have their share. We send out cards, and everyone that gets a card, you see there's money invested there. We send out between 200 and 300 cards for each one of these lectures. Some of the units send out more cards if they have a larger mailing list.

Then there is the mimeographing of these cards that has to be done. And about three or four... Four of us spend about five hours each time getting these cards all out and mimeographed. Then, of course, our speakers, we want good speakers, and after a hall, they do have their time that they are giving and telling us something that they know, that they have experienced, and we really do not get anything for nothing, you know.

We have to pay for everything we get. So we like to give our speakers. We like to give our speakers a fee, and, of course, lots of times we would like to get some of the speakers who have a set fee.

There are lots of speakers we would like to get that have set fees of $50, $100, and as yet we have not been able to get them because our treasure has not built up to that point.

So we would appreciate people putting in a donation when they come in because this money really goes all toward furthering...

...understanding, and if anyone would care to contribute more or hasn't put in a donation or would like to do so afterwards, we would appreciate it.

So now we'll have our drawing. Would you like to draw? I have a ticket. Oh, well, that's all right. It doesn't make any difference. Because we probably all have tickets. Now, what would you call that? Six, two, one are the last three numbers. Oh, good. And tonight we are giving Calvin Gervin's book, The Knight Has Eight Thousand Saucers. Would you like to autograph it for Mr. Spiler? Mr. Spiler is the receiver of our prize tonight. We thank you very much, Calvin.

[51:00] Audience questions and discussion

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[01:12:00] Closing discussion and final remarks

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