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Saucer Rally 1958

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[00:00] Opening remarks and Daniel Fry chairs the rally

Welcome to this meeting of the Greater Los Angeles Spacecraft Club. This is the first meeting that has really been held with the cooperation of all of the, I believe, all of the local clubs in this area. We have on the platform some of the representatives of these clubs. If we have any here, any representatives of any groups that aren't on the platform, would you please stand? Come forward. Do we have any other groups? Any officers of the understanding clubs present, other than the ones that are already on the platform? I'm going to introduce those who are present with us tonight who have cooperated in this meeting. If they care to say a word, I will be happy to have them. I think you know all of these fine people anyway, but we'll go through the formality of introducing them. And they can say a word or two. We have first Dana Howard, who is author of Diane, She Came from Venus, Over the Threshold, and several other works.

Do you care to say anything? It's a surprise. I hadn't expected to say anything. Perhaps I might say that I think that the most important book that I have done goes to press on the 2nd of January. That book is something, that is valuable to all the clubs, valuable to all the groups, in that it applies to each and every one of us and the task ahead of us in the breakthrough. In that I mean the breakthrough into the space age. The book contains a great deal about Otis Carr and the work he's doing. It contains, it has something in there about our friend over there, Wayne Aho. And it takes personality. And ties it in with what our future represents to us. And it is something I believe that will reach out far beyond the ordinary sorcerer groups. It's, I didn't come up here to talk about the book, but in as much as it does apply to the breakthrough and what is necessary for the breakthrough and how we can all become a part of that breakthrough

and a new age, I think that it will represent the greatest thing that I have done. Thank you. I guess Hope Troxell isn't here yet.

Please give her an opportunity to say a word when she arrives. Dr. Hansel, Chris, in the Truth Church. Dr. Hansel, is he here? Oh, I turned my back on him. By all means, get up and say thank you. Thank you, Dan, very much. Indeed, I think we're privileged to have these learned gentlemen here tonight to speak to us and thanks to Dan and Mrs. Fry and that wonderful group known as Understanding as a cooperation of many, they are here. And I know of Dan's modesty for, and for that reason I'm taking this moment to say that recently one of his books has been put into Braille print and is sent out all over the world to the blind, and that is Steps to the Stars, to the Theosophical Movement. And I would like to also say that one is now being printed that my wife has written, is being sent to these various blind people throughout the world, as well as one written by myself and my associate minister. But I do want to congratulate Dan for the fine work he is doing.

Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Doctor. I'm Carl Anderson, author of Two Nights, Do You Remember? Good evening, folks. It's a pleasure to be here tonight. And I would like to say that recently I have been up and down the coast on lecture tour and we met some very, very fine people in the Northern California area. And I was quite surprised and pleased to learn not too long ago that the book that I wrote entitled Two Nights, Do You Remember? has been endorsed and approved in the city of, Merced by the School Board and Parent Teachers Association to be used for their children in making out their book reports. And they said that of all the books written on the subject, they had looked them over very carefully. And for certain reasons, mine had been the one chosen for the school children to use. And this made me quite happy and I felt quite honored. And things have been quite quiet lately. I haven't had any recent contacts.

One happened to be in June of this year, June 27th to be exact. I do, however, plan to put out another book in the near future. However, I will be quite busy for some time to come, I think, in the making of the motion picture, which you've probably heard about. And after that is all over with, perhaps I'll get to writing something else. Thank you. Eugene Drake of the Fellowship of Golden Illumination. Thank you, Dan Fry. Ladies and gentlemen, I think you'll all be interested to know that on Tuesday morning our time, a tribunal met on the planet Saturn discussing the situation here upon the planet Earth. At that time, it was decided from the reports that we have telepathically with the beings from Jupiter, that it was decided to send more light, more love, and also to take certain steps in a forceful way, though they don't say what they mean by forceful way exactly, except to make more elaborate appearances of craft over the various parts of the Earth.

In this coming week, it is decided that a certain number of their craft will appear over Los Angeles. They have appeared over five other cities, and this would be the sixth. On the full moon, right after Christmas Day, they're going to make a strong appearance all over the northern hemisphere and in many other parts of the world. They stress very strongly that unless the people of Earth wake up, and that's the reason they're going to use this more strongly activated activity, that our continual program of hate and destruction will surely bring it upon us, regardless of how they are trying to classify this energy in a peaceful way. So it behooves us, they say, to... to expand more kindness, more understanding, and more love in all directions, among all people, in order to prevent this condition from arising. But they say that we, instead of having conditions get better, they're going to get worse unless we do wake up.

And that is the reason they're coming in here with more and more activity. Some of the craft that they will show themselves will be three and four miles long. Of course, I'm going to wait and see if they do come in like that. But many of these statements they give us, we have to check on and verify, which I do through the various brotherhoods I'm connected with. But the fact remains that the people of Earth, and through these understanding groups of all types and space groups, they can expand this information, and they suggested that I reveal that to you, to watch the heavens this coming week, and also the day after Christmas, when the full moon is closer to the Earth, than it has been for some time, because there's certain types of energy that are coming from the central sun reflected by the moon that they can use to make their appearance more clearly and more tangible to us. So I leave that word with you,

and thank you very much for your attention.

And of course, we all know our friend Orfeo Angelucci, author of Secret of the Saucer. Thank you, Dan, and thank you, folks, for being here tonight, and thanks for this opportunity to be among so many and to find people again. Of course, I didn't expect to say a word either tonight, except as I've just read in a magazine that somebody says, now a word from the president. And the word was, for. I think all I can say is that

we find ourselves really on the threshold of the new age. You know, we used to talk about that a few years ago. And I know many of you feel that there are now, not only on the threshold, but inside the door. We haven't explored every labyrinth of it yet, but the whole world is with us, the material and the spiritual. You know, we hear today the spiritual crying out to reach up to the material progress, and the material progress is seeking for engineers and students. And yet, who's going to give all these things but people? Only people. In fact, what we have today on this earth is, frankly, men and women from people. That's men and women. And I'm stressing this point today, as I did in my book, Secret of the Saucers. Many of you have read of Lyra. And as you did in Truman and Bethlehem, you read of R.R. Raines. Of course, it made a little trouble for Truman and Bethlehem, but Lyra has made no trouble for me yet.

But in my second book, I was bringing in three women, and they may be successful in uprooting me. But it wasn't I who had the experience of it. It was really another Now, we're speaking in this book of a ship that goes into the sun and out again, and exactly telling the details of how it can be done, and is done. But notice one thing. Men and women. Space medicine today tells us that the pilots of outer space of the future will need mates. Not just a man and woman, but a man must take someone with him whom he loves. Because the trip, the very idea of being out there in space alone, under earth conditions and earth preparations, is so tremendous, so devastating to the soul, to something within man, that he must have the one he loves with him. Now, I'm not making this up. Am I, Dan? No, it's in the newspapers. It's in the newspapers. And space medicine at Randolph Field today is taking this into consideration. So you see, you women,

who felt that you have never seen a flying saucer and never had contacts. Well, we've said in the past many times that you've had better contacts than men. And in fact, men cannot go out into space without you. That's all I have to say tonight. Gabriel Green of Los Angeles Interplanetary Study Group.

Thank you, Dan. And good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It's a pleasure to be here with all the rest of these fine people representing the many organizations throughout Southern California. I'm particularly in favor of this type of cooperation. I feel that more cooperation is needed between the groups throughout the country, and I'm particularly happy to see so many of you here this evening continuing to support this type of activity, even though there may not be as much sensational activity reported in the newspapers as there has been in the past. There is a lot of activity taking place throughout the world. Much of it does not reach us in our newspapers, however. But each one of you has a part in helping to make these activities a success. And as you attend these various groups and help to support them by your continued interest and your attendance at their meetings, you are combining your help with the many thousands of people

throughout this nation and throughout the world to support them in the type of activities and action which will eventually help to initiate the actions which will make this world a better place to live in for each and every one of us. Thank you very much. Lee Yates,

President of Englewood Understanding. This again is a surprise to me.

I am a new officer of the Englewood unit. I would like to say that it is a pleasure to be a part of Understanding. The feeling of wanting to help in this movement to me is a tremendous thing. I think you, as well as everyone connected with the organization, will also have that same feeling in one way or another. And it probably will grow as you become more of a student of this whole topic of Understanding. It is all its phases. So I know you are here to hear the principal speakers and without anything furthermore to say, I will say thank you very much for the opportunity of presenting myself. Have I neglected anyone?

Oh, June Ormond. Oh, by all means. June Ormond of Project Outer Space. President of Project Outer Space. In a sense of the way, I am glad that I was forgotten until the very last

[15:00] Dana Howard and early rally speakers

because this gives me an opportunity to more or less say hello to all you friends that I have made within the past six months. As you well know, I have not had a contact in the Saucer Movement the same as these other folks have. In fact, I haven't had that privilege as yet. But I have been picked as an instrument to help with Project Outer Space, which is a great honor to me. I have met many of you people and have talked to you and no doubt many of you are aware what Project Outer Space means to us in the Saucer Movement and what it is going to mean to you and all the people throughout the world. Project Outer Space is going to be a motion picture that we intend to do within the next few weeks. We shall start production. In fact, it amazes me no end to realize how much ground that we have covered within six months. Because you people and all the people throughout the United States and many of those in Canada and England and Europe

have become part of this great movement. They are so interested in making this motion picture that every day I get hundreds of letters in fact, I can't answer them all telling me how wonderful it is to have this picture and how they are looking forward to being able to see a part of it and being able to see it when it is complete. You yourself realize how important this picture is to you and you as an audience having heard the stories of the various contactees and the scientists telling how they can make this saucer and go to the moon and all the various things that are the components part of this great movement. How wonderful it's going to be not only to hear it but to see it actually happen on the screen. To realize the dreams that have happened to these wonderful people to become a reality in motion pictures. This to me is a great achievement and you are helping to be a part of this. We have now pledges of many, many thousands of dollars

almost enough to start our picture. But if some of you folks sitting out there tonight have not heard about the project have not been able to be a part of it we will need you not only financially that is not so important yes, it's important but not too important but we need you to help in the acting. So we'll be standing over there after a while and if some of you people feel that you can be an active member in this particular program maybe you can paint scenery maybe you can help in helping with the wardrobe there are many things that each of us can do and offer our services for to make this picture a reality to all of us. So I'll be standing over there and I'd love to talk to you and explain to you and so that you each can become a part of it and know what the project means to you, to me and to all of us and to all the people throughout the world who are waiting to see this picture. So thank you very much for your kind attention

and it's wonderful to see you all here tonight. Thank you. One more thing

we have in the audience the only man so far as we know who has a duly notarized deed to the moon. Since we have with us tonight a couple of men who are going there fairly shortly perhaps these two men ought to get together so there won't be any questions of property rights from their land. Mr. William E. Dudman would you like to come up and say just a word about your deed to the moon? The deed was drawn

and the subject came up about what you people right here talk about all the time about outer space people going to the moon. That was brought up and of course my wife and I both in Phoenix, Arizona we held real estate licenses there. It helped me and the subject was mentioned. Well, why not do something that no one else had ever done? All of us like to do something like that. So the subject kept going and kept going and someone said why don't someone own the moon? One thing led to another. My wife talked to us. I had another follow in with me on this. So we immediately started getting data together. Took a lot of time in the libraries. A lot of legal came up with what we think is the correct and legal deed to the moon. If I have it, it's recorded. Now the county recorder when it came out it did hit the newspapers when it was recorded. He said he was forced to record the deed because it was a legal document. Thank you very much.

As I said to Mr. Dudman

when he first showed me the deed this is undoubtedly a very good and legal deed especially if you can get there first to hold your claim there happened to be a few people up there already who have the idea that they own it.

With us Mr. Otis C. Carr of the OTC Industries and Major Wayne Aho of Washington Source Intelligence. Wayne I think you're going to speak first. I think all of you know Wayne well enough so it isn't necessary to give any lengthy introduction. You know that he was a member of Army Combat Intelligence Service during the war. That he hit the Omaha Beach on D-Day I believe isn't that right? And that he has a purple heart and a few other decorations to show for his activities with our country. He has become very interested in the craft which we are now so frequently seeing in our atmosphere and occasionally upon our ground because he has learned that they are real. Something that not all of even our Army Intelligence men seem to know as yet. But this is one man who does know it. So without further ado I'll give you Major Wayne Aho. Thank you very much Dan Fry and good evening friends. I'd like to know in the beginning of our program

first how many are attending their first lecture of this type in this auditorium this evening. Would you raise your hands high please. Those that are attending their first lecture. Well that is very good. I'm always happy to see new faces, new people because it means that more persons are receiving an introduction to this fantastic subject. Before the program is concluded this evening after you have heard the things that Mr. Otis Carr and I have to tell you about actual plans for going out into space from this earth to prove the things we are talking about from these platforms. I'm going to ask for a showing of hands of any persons that feel convinced enough and confident enough that they would be willing to volunteer for the third seat on this craft when it leaves for the moon. We have some volunteers already without any explanation. That's very good. I would like to tell you about the programs that we have scheduled yet in this region

before Mr. Carr has to return toward the east. But I'd like to know also in the way of information how many persons are here because of the Hunter Radio program here in Los Angeles. How many heard of this lectures on the radio program? KFR radio programs,

these night owl, hoot owl ships stir up a lot of interest. I know that many people are brought into these activities because they begin to hear these things talked about in a serious vein by many people and they begin to understand that there must be something going on so they come to investigate. We are going to be in Long Beach tomorrow afternoon at 2.30. We are going to be at Morgan Hall, Locust near 8, 2.30 tomorrow afternoon in Long Beach, California. Then Monday evening at El Monte, the original club of the understanding groups at 517 Stewart Street at 8 o'clock p.m. Monday evening. You can pass this information on to your friends so that they can be sure and hear Mr. Carr while he is in this region. He returns toward the east. Immediately after this, I will spend a few days out in the desert area that I enjoy so much. It is always a sort of homecoming because this is where I saw a craft land on the Mojave Desert on May 11 of 1957

while attending the Giant Rock Space Convention in 1957. Many fantastic things happened as a result of this experience. Actually seeing a craft land, I don't tell some of the things that happened from a lecture platform because they are things of a personal nature in many ways, but I learned from this nighttime of experience how our civilization is hanging by a thread. While having dinner, we used the expression this evening in discussing the weight what man would weigh on the surface of this earth compared to the actual bulk or mass of this planet. Mr. Carr used the expression we wouldn't weigh more than a gnat's whisker. So from what I learned from this experience, you might say that our civilization, the decision of whether we go up into higher consciousness or go back into the Middle Ages, the Dark Ages again, as a civilization, seems to hang by a gnat's whisker. And the gnat's whisker is the consciousness of people. Whether they are attaining,

reaching toward higher things, higher consciousness, and trying to overcome the destructive devices and tendencies of man, the destructive tendencies and the desire to control and rule others and dictate that has held man in bondage on this planet for many thousands of years and has made him a sort of a robot almost, at least in the case of many nations. And almost so in the case of America. So it is hanging by a gnat's whisker. That is one reason why at that time, shortly after this experience, two weeks after in fact, I decided to go to Washington, D.C. and I have been working on this program ever since that time. I have visited the office of every senator and every congressman asking them to bring to the public a free flow of information on this subject. Because it doesn't take a great deal of study that when you begin to comprehend what the hazard, the dangers are to our civilization, and you can see very clearly that the only way out

of this predicament is higher consciousness. There is no other route. A sort of a squeeze play is on. And the only way out of it is to go higher. And one way to go higher is to find out about universal life, life throughout the universe that we as humans are not physical material beings living on what you might call a physical material planet. We have a much higher heritage and we have a right to communicate with and develop understanding and knowledge by visiting and coming to know interplanetary brothers that live on other planets. Highly developed civilizations that could tell us very much if we would listen. That is one way out of this predicament. Today, while I have been working on this program going on two years, I have seen the trap closing tighter and tighter. And some people are so misled, misguided, and so hypnotized by the things around them that they have not had a chance yet even to find out that they are being trapped.

That freedom on this planet might cease to exist unless some people wake up. I have met many wonderful people

in the course of this work. I have reached millions of people nationwide. Mr. Carr and I expect to reach on this lecture tour a total of 25 million people. I have personally formed clubs in many of the major cities of the nation including New York City, Chicago, Denver, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, some 16 cities in various parts of the nation, encouraging these groups and these clubs to do something. I am very familiar with the group, the work of the understanding groups I have lectured at practically all of these clubs as far east as Baltimore. And I know the wonderful work that Daniel Fry and all of these clubs are doing. We have material to work with. The material is people. And we are trying to develop consciousness, a higher consciousness, to the point that man can begin to understand greater things than dollars and cents, than buildings and building sort of castles out of material things here. But understanding that there is

a far greater heritage that we all have if we want to bring ourselves to it. All we have to do is seek and ask and work diligently in this direction. These people that are visiting us in these spaceships have been able to prove these things. They know these things for sure. Many of us are beginning to comprehend this higher heritage and we are encouraging millions and millions of people on the surface of this planet to strive for higher things. We realize that we are pouring in our own nation, billions of dollars into armaments, missiles, rockets. We have behind us now about a $19 billion program of taxpayers' money spent on rockets and missiles, additional billions spent on atomic bombs, hydrogen bombs. Every nation where the people are able to produce a sort of tax return over and above their living expenses, all of these nations are doing the same thing, building armaments. Within a few years, these missiles and rockets,

these weapons will be aimed at the heart of every city of any size on the face of the earth. And I wouldn't be surprised if Los Angeles would have several aimed at the heart of this city. We are living in very critical, very perilous times. For man is going to decide in the near future whether he is going to go upward or whether he is going to end his existence on this planet and go back to the caves. Dr. Einstein, a brilliant man that you will hear something about this evening, said that if there is a third world war, the fourth will be fought with bows and arrows. I wonder myself whether there would be any survivors when we have, reaped the reward of radioactivity planet-wide. It might destroy all human, animal and plant life for millions of years to come. And even if the earth nations do not engage in this program of mass destruction, there is still another program that we find we must contend with, and that is a world conspiracy

aimed at taking over all of the freedom of man, not necessarily by war, but by subversion from within. This is very clearly brought out in a book called The Pentagon Case that I think every American should read nowadays. It will be a bestseller, I am sure. Every one of you people should read this book without fail, telling about how the trap is closing in on people that are not even aware that a trap has been set. People going about their daily lives, making car payments, trying to save a few dollars, watching television, and taking in certain kinds of recreation and amusement, if they can find even a few minutes or a few hours in a week or a month of free time, a time for relaxation, they give thanks and say, this is really a nice thing we have here. But they don't realize many of the forces and pressures going on about them that are bringing man closer and closer, closer to his work, that are limiting his ability to expand his thinking

and his knowing about things, especially if it comes to higher consciousness. This book is written by a former naval flier who worked in the Pentagon as a top-level speechwriter. He discovered this conspiracy and how it is working. He was able to see the picture on a nationwide, worldwide scale. He tried to expose it. Soon attempts were made on his life. A large limousine tried to run him down in the Pentagon parking lot as he was going to his car late one evening after work. A limousine that was standing still as though it were unoccupied suddenly surged forward and tried to run him down. He was a long-legged flier. He was able to jump and roll and escape with his life. When he persisted in his attempts to expose this conspiracy, he says in this book that the feelers, it reaches to the White House, to the Senate, to all brackets of our government, into our public schools, into your neighborhood movie theater by the type of shows

that are being presented in our movies, into the neighborhood magazine counter by the type of material that is being presented to the reading public, young people and old, to take their mind off of higher or better things and sort of confuse them, give them a lot of rot about how our families have deteriorated, how there is nothing anymore to family life or to higher ideals, how every young person is a juvenile delinquent running around with a switchblade knife using psychology in this program, knowing that young people have impressive minds and these things become impressed on their minds. More young people begin to follow this sort of thinking and ideas. They think this is the way to live, why in Brooklyn and all kinds of places they are doing these things, so they go out and do it too. And we find in our national press that J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI, now announces that 34% of crimes are now committed by younger than 18-year-olds.

He says if it gets much worse, it will not be safe on the public streets and the parks or the highways within a few years' time for any person. The thing that American people don't know is that these things that are happening around us that we don't like, that this is a part of a world conspiracy. And some people are spending money to do these things, money collected right here in America. It doesn't come from Moscow. Russians are being taxed too. But this money is being collected and paid for by American people to subvert themselves. Taxpayers are building beautiful public schools and taxing themselves to the hilt to build these institutions of learning. This man brings out a very interesting thought that some of the books being used in our public schools are being written by these subversive elements and are being studied by American students in these beautiful schools. People don't know these things. And when you tell them,

sometimes they say, oh, this couldn't be true. It just couldn't be true. Why, it's too fantastic. This book is a must for every American to read. Not that you will agree with every idea presented in there, but the things that tell about this man's experience are a personal experience. I've met him twice. My wife has met him. I've met his family and seen his children in his home. He writes this book as fiction on the advice of the Senate Subversives Committee for his protection and the protection of the publisher, because he names in here that you will be able to recognize, even though the spelling isn't exactly the way it would be in real life. He comes very close

[40:00] Dr. Hansel and Eugene Drake segments

to pointing out the real situation. Of course, many people know more than what this book says, but it is something, one of the product of our times, that we not only have armaments or the destructive effect of armaments to deal with and think with, but subversion, a sort of boring process from within. This is especially dangerous because people many times are not able to recognize it. It is very subtle. You read what seems like a beautiful story and suddenly you see a twist in it. You go to see a movie and you get along in there somewhere and you see a twist, warping of men's minds, and you see it in your neighborhood magazine counter. This author points out what can be done about it, not by hate, but by a constructive program. The first step always is public enlightenment. Fulton Lewis, Jr. has recommended this book for every American to read, as many others. We will receive orders for this book tonight. Mrs. Aho is at the center of the table

over here on the side. You will find many interesting books to secure those of you that are new, but at the OTC counter you will find books that are of interest, including The Prodigal Genius. This will be on display there. It should be ordered direct from Baltimore, from the OTC address in Baltimore. It sells for $4. It tells about Nikola Tesla, the electrical wizard of our time, that can share some of the responsibility for the work that is being presented here this evening, of this model of a circular foil craft to my left, and a diagram over here on the right. Electrical engineer or inventor of our present time or earlier times of this civilization has shared in this by bringing electrical understanding up to this point. Now there is one step more being presented to the world, one step ahead. You will find also some material in what we call a kit selling for $2. It is available this evening. Included are a book. You will find a book here by Mr. Carr

called Dimensions of Mystery, an OTC brochure telling about the scientific background, the work involved, and many loose-leaf sheets telling about news releases and things that have happened in this development, this work so far. Also copies of The Little Listening Post from Washington, D.C., a very high-level publication in this field. I encourage all of you to either secure or order some of these items. We will receive, we've sold all copies of the Pentagon case except this display copy. Any that are interested can take, either pay $1.10, that will include mailing, and we will mail you a copy, or you can take one of the forms that has a printed order on the back from Washington Saucer Intelligence and order it from Washington, D.C. Also, those of you that are interested in the science or want to learn about how this craft that we are talking about tonight actually operates, you will find some sort of bulletin with a picture of a spaceship in front.

You can order these from Baltimore now for $5 for an engineering kit. There will be about 10,000 words of scientific explanation, and actual to scale drawings of this OTC X-1. Engineers, scientists, everyone that wants to learn something about this can learn from these descriptions and these drawings. You can take copies of this. We have several other items of free literature at the table. I will be lecturing in San Diego on Friday evening of next week. If any of you have friends in the San Diego area, they should contact Mrs. Roy W. Day of Lemon Grove, California to get the location of that lecture. Now, this evening, generally, the title of our program is Spaceships Visiting Earth and Our Reach into Space. We have a sort of a three-point idea that we are trying to develop this evening. That is that space visitors are here. I have seen them 13 times. I have actually seen a craft land. I know that there are many people in this audience

that have seen spaceships. How many of you believe that you have seen a spaceship? Would you raise your hands, please? So we are saying that these craft are here. They are of highly advanced intelligence. The craft are of a high technology. They are able to make 90-degree turns in full flight and U-turns in full flight. Something that we will also be learning about this evening, how it is possible to accomplish this without the pilot going through the windshield, so to speak, of his craft. These things are all possible. The second item on the program is that we have the technology, the understanding within our own nation to build craft capable of going into space. There are many engineers, many scientists that we have discovered in various parts of the nation that have profound knowledge in this direction. Mr. Carr's work from over 20 years has brought him to the point where he has announced to the world that he will leave in a circular foil craft

for the moon on December 7, 1959. He has invited me to be a passenger and I have accepted. There is a seat open for a third person. This third person will be someone with a technical background, knowledge about instruments and instrumentation. Many people are volunteering. One person in Oklahoma City, we had a public program and were interviewed on six TV programs in one day in Oklahoma City, six television programs in one day. This was a record for us. And by the time we concluded our public program that evening, we were very tired. We crawled slowly off to bed. On one of these programs, one person called in and said, I am a doctor of physics, an instructor, and I have five years' background in electronics. I would like to be the third passenger. Mr. Carr instructed him to send in his application to Baltimore. So people that have a good background in science are not laughing about the things you are hearing tonight.

One television commentator and a radio commentator that has a nationwide program on radio, and the two of them, a TV commentator on a TV program in Washington, D.C., tried for a full month to get some scientists to come up and refute Carr's theory. They announced it periodically over the air. And they made sort of a search in the field of science to find some scientists that would come up and prove that Mr. Carr was wrong. Not one person came forward. Not one. It would be interesting to note also that an electrical engineering firm has been contacted by Mr. Carr some time ago. He gave them his development, the things that he has discovered that will be written into the new books of science in the future. Every book of science will eventually carry this. Some may be a little slow to pick it up, but I'm sure that there will be a lot of changes after December 7, 1959. He has announced to the world that he has discovered

that any vehicle that is axis-rotated at a speed relative to its attractive inertial mass is immediately activated by free space energy and acts as an independent force. This means generally that this craft, counter-rotating at a speed relative to what our Earth is turning, an 8,000-diameter planet turning once in 24 hours, a 45-foot craft, the OTC X-1, the first model, would counter-rotate at 580 RPMs approximately to be turning at this relative speed. At this point, it becomes unipolarized, the same as the Earth, and by the law of magnets that similars repel, it is repelled away from the Earth, rises beautifully and gracefully up into the sky. All motion can be controlled, forward and backward, sideways, every direction. It has a force field with it. It is electrical in nature. This electrical engineering firm was given this statement, and they announced to Mr. Clark, Mr. Carr, by a formal letter, also informed the public over a television program

in Washington, D.C., that they have checked this statement. They were most interested in this statement of Mr. Carr's, and they have found him to be correct. He is correct. The verification also comes from theory from many sources, people that have never met Mr. Carr. Some have met him recently. A Gerhard Heim in Germany, who is recognized as a genius at the age of 19, who lost both arms, his eyesight, and 80% of his hearing in a rocket explosion there during the war, continued his own program of research for 16 years, but now he had to go into his inner sources for knowledge. In a rocket society meeting in Germany last fall, he announced to the gathered scientists that he now knows that light, gravitational fields, and energy is interchangeable, if you know the formula. And he feels that he knows the formula. This man was so broke that he hardly had the substance to continue his daily living. He was going to send a scientist that was working with him

to America to earn some money to send back to him so he could continue his research. When this was announced, the city of Hamburg took this man under the wing and is supplying his needs of life so he can continue to work in the field of science. A doctor, Albert Cushing Crehor, living in Cleveland, Ohio, a man 92 years young, wrote a revolutionary book on atomic theory over 28 years ago that is still not accepted in the field of science. It completely changes the whole picture. Certain electrical problems have been worked out using this man's atomic theory to prove that he is on the right track.

A Signal Corps scientist worked for nine years using our present theory, trying to solve an electrical problem that was discovered in England during World War II and given to America to explore because we have more money. This man worked for nine years without one step of forward progress trying to solve this problem that had to do with communications. He couldn't get anywhere. He lived on the taxpayer's support for nine years. One day, because he was one of these spiritual sort of people that sometimes try to follow a higher guidance, he reached up into the Pentagon Library. He found a book in his hand called the Crehor Atom. And he thought, what in the world is this? He had never heard of him. This could be nothing. This man is unknown, at least in the field of science he had been working in. He is known in who's who in science. He has written many books. 92 years young, he has been carrying on a private battle

with the Atomic Energy Commission for years trying to encourage some interest from that score to examine his theory. They have nothing to do with him. Strangely enough, the Signal Corps scientist, Robert Stillmar, he's written a book about this experience and is doing everything he can to get Dr. Crehor's theory under the microscope of other scientists to prove that this man is right. Within five months, Robert Stillmar had a total solution to his electrical problem. Five months. A total answer. Enabling him to go ahead with his work in a fantastic way and fantastic direction. Dr. Crehor has said on tape recordings and he brings out in his material, his published material, that there is energy in a gravitational field. Energy. By his theory, these things are not only possible but necessary. It could be no other way. He says everything has a field around it, including a human being. Every plant, everything that has life,

has a field around it. A sort of electrical field. Stillmar has tried to encourage scientists to examine this theory and he has received very noncommittal letters back from the scientists he has written to. Some will say, philosophically speaking, our present theory is as good as Dr. Crehor's. Most will not even answer. And he says, what do they mean, philosophically speaking? Aren't they scientists? These things can be proven in a scientific way. And he is trying to bring this out into the open. Dr. Crehor met Mr. Otis Carr just a short time back. These things are coming from many directions. The third item that I think is of great importance for us to recognize in these UFO groups, in understanding clubs, in people that are trying to look upward and outward and know what we have to face because we would be foolish if we went around in a dream state and saying everything is all right and refuse to recognize the groups and the elements

that we have to contend with. I am announcing, both by bulletin and from the public platform, that I have reason to believe now that the Russians have advanced type of spacecraft. My background is an army combat intelligence officer. I think a person many times survives by not being misled, even about interplanetary visitation, but about any other truth. I use on my letterhead a statement saying an informed electorate on one side, intelligent self-government on the other side. How can we run this nation intelligently? How can we know where to put it? Who to vote on our tax dollars? Or who to vote for? Or how to run this government that is supposed to be run by the people? Unless we know what we are up against, what is going on around us. One of the biggest hoaxes being pulled on the people today is this sort of silence or this, you might call it, a sort of hop, step and dance about interplanetary craft in our skies.

This alone would raise the consciousness of so many millions of people all over this planet that those that are trying to subvert and control would begin to lose their grip very rapidly. In addition to this, we should now be aware that there is plenty of reason to believe that the Russians have developed an advanced type of space vehicle and all the more reason for us to get our ship into the sky, not in just one craft or ten craft, hundreds and eventually millions of them. But with the idea behind it that we are going to visit other planets, we are going to travel around this planet but do it in peace, not for war. Not to bring on more destruction or more control or to try to go out and plant our national flag on the moon with the idea that we are going to try to control the moon or that we should visit Mars or Venus and take the kind of space law that some of our attorneys are writing out there and try to make others subservient

to our type of law. I'm afraid that we have much to learn about law when we do go into space and that this space program should be developed with understanding. I think the word conquer should be left out of it because we will never conquer space. I'm sure advanced civilizations have conquered it long ago. The only way we will get there is by trying to understand it and other people and begin to leave the word conquer out of our dictionary. If we have or persist in these ideas we will be set right back on our ear. The man's biggest problem on this planet is ego. A vain sort of creature that often times looks at himself in the mirror and he says, how could there be anyone anywhere in the universe as intelligent as I am? Look at me. And by this sort of ego then nations, communities, large groups of people begin to say, well we have developed atomic bombs, hydrogen bombs, we have aircraft, we have metallic automobiles, we have built highways,

of course we have some smog, but we have done great things here. The ones with the greatest ego

keep repeating that radioactivity even is alright. I studied to become a radiological monitor for civil defense for the state of California and one of the first shows that we saw was a sort of movie saying that this radioactivity wasn't half bad. We could live around it and eat it and breathe it. And that in some cases people that had got quite a bit of this had lost their hair. And the commentator laughingly said, well that isn't so bad, you know, many of us have worn wigs before and maybe we can do it again. An educational program for the armed services and civil defense personnel. But as more was learned about the harmful effects of radiation this movie was scrapped. The people that showed it to us said it was an accident that this had already been outmoded. But this is what people were saying in the beginning. We could wear wigs if we did lose our hair. Now this was outmoded. But everyone that sat in on that lesson were very burned up indeed.

And somebody during that program said who in the world started all this anyway? The professors that were in charge of the class said, well we don't know. Somebody did it and now we have to live with it. We have to face it. We're here and we've got to put up with it. Who started this anyhow? So the Russians have an advanced type of spacecraft according to my information and belief at this point. This was announced by Marshal Georgy Zhukov right after they launched their Sputniks. And right after this he disappeared from the scene. He said the Russians have developed a circular foil craft capable of going into space. This is a circular foil craft. Mr. Carr has been trying to bring this knowledge to the world, to America especially, since 1947. Maybe some of the Russians sat in on some of his conferences with some of our own officials and decided to do it first. We don't know. They are all through our government. Their agents,

the subversive elements, are in every bracket of our nation. Everywhere. Kilsu Han,

a man now living in San Jose, who is a liaison officer for the Sino-Chinese People's League during World War II, working with our own government, and who has connections and had connections with the underground operating in China, announced to our Defense Department in 1957 that the Russians have spaceships. He was a little bit confused. He was a little bit disappointed because no one seemed to display any interest in our Defense Department. So he contacted the Deseret News in Salt Lake City in October last year and again on January 9 this year. And two long articles in there that were pointed out to my attention while coming through Salt Lake City said that according to the underground in China, the Russians had in 1957 four spaceships. It was described as a very powerful space spaceship. The Chinese said that this craft operated on a type of energy more powerful than atomic fuel. It had gone to a height of 140 miles.

It could remain in the sky indefinitely. It had been in the sky for three weeks on that one test. A Chinese general had seen it. Exhibition. It could travel at fantastic speeds in any direction. And the Chinese general said this will determine the outcome of any future war. They plan to have by 1958 a launching spaceship and a craft that would also carry anti-missile missiles to knock any other rockets out of the sky. When you begin to talk about magnetic energy, electrical forces, the people that have worked at White Sands, New Mexico, that saw these UFOs go around and around our rockets and then leave them in the distance know that there is an advanced technology and that a craft of this type could tie a knot in the tail of a rocket. Before it knows where it's going. Strangely, while we have continued to blast rockets off into space for the last several months, the Russians have been very quiet. Nobody hears anything from anything over there.

They were supposed to be ahead of us. Now everything is very quiet. We shoot rockets toward the moon costing millions of dollars apiece. We have spent a $19 billion program already on rockets. We have other billions of dollars committed to rocketry and missiles. And here is a man this evening that you are going to hear next who says that he can build and has had actual flight of models of a revolutionary type of craft that uses electromagnetism, electromotive force and gravity and is capable of going into space and to the moon and returning without injury to the occupants or the craft. I was picturing today and thinking about this situation. We realize that these things that are being said are a challenge to many people, in many ways. It's a challenge to rocketeers. It's a challenge to politicians. It's a challenge to people who have opposed minds. It's a challenge to people that are saying that these interplanetary craft can't be here

because our great intelligence hasn't been able to build them and we are so advanced. And they like to think of these craft as being either Russian or American. They'd even almost rather have them be Russian ships than have them as advanced life elsewhere. But I was thinking of this situation today. If you'd picture over on this side of the auditorium a huge pile of rubble, some missiles and rockets standing upright with hundreds of thousands of electronic parts all paid for by the American taxpayers and also some broken up ones that exploded and crashed. Remember, there is no depreciation in these rockets. It's a total loss. Once a button is pushed, it destroys itself and it hits the ground. Some may have ended up on other planets. I don't know. But picture this huge pile over here with a $19 billion price tag. And then look at this eensy-teensy little model over here on the other side. Compare this to Goliath and this to little David

with his slingshot and pebble. This David over here can knock the socks off of Goliath. And the little pebble is truth. All of these things can be proven. You cannot defeat truth. You never have to apologize for truth. You just say it. And it stands up on its own legs and it keeps going. Every spoken word of truth is still truth. Thousands and millions of years later. This is well brought out in our New Testament when we recognize things that are happening in our world today as having been written around 2,000 years ago. Things we are experiencing and seeing coming into fruition today. I will leave the rest of this program, the explanations, the comments about Nikola Tesla, Dr. Einstein, to Mr. Carr, a man that I met last year. I have observed him. I have studied him closely. I have tried to understand his motives. And I am sold on his motives. A forthright courageous American that has dared do something that no one else would dare do.

That has challenged the whole works by saying it can be done and he has set the date. A pebble of truth. If these things can be brought into fruition the taxpayers will be saved billions of dollars. It may save our American nation. And it will undoubtedly bring us higher consciousness and a higher standard of living. Because there is an application to every type of industry from this sort of development and knowledge. So, Mr. Carr, I would like to ask you to stand up and introduce Mr. Carr. And after Mr. Carr finishes we will have a short break during which time you can look at the literature. I will ask someone to pass out some cards while Mr. Carr is talking. And we would ask that all of you print your name and address on this card. This is part of a mailing list for the OTC Enterprises in Baltimore. And all of you will receive the first issue of a space age journal free of charge as a result of these cards. This will be a sort of

combined publication covering new science, new developments and also reporting news about the UFO field. It will fill a very important part in the world today. Something very much needed. It will also indicate if you have any special interest in this direction of your own. Some many people will be employed in this work and in this field in the future in various areas all over the world. If you will indicate a special interest in space age work and indicate anything that you specifically think we should know about at this time. Please leave early and write down special comments. At this time it gives me great pleasure to introduce Mr. Dan Fry who will introduce Mr. Carr. I really wasn't going to introduce Mr. Carr I thought that Major Aho could do that probably much better than I but I was going to announce that while the cards are being passed out we could have the drawing for the door prize in case any of you had to leave early

at least have the same chance as anyone else. Mr. Carr will speak. You've heard quite a lot

this evening about Mr. Otis Carr and the work that he has done and is doing and will do so I'm not going to take any further time in introducing him I'm just going to let him speak for himself.

Thank you Mr. Fry Major Aho Ladies and gentlemen at the beginning we'd like to take the opportunity to thank those people who make these meetings possible for their efforts. We know there is a lot of work and it is unselfish work and it is not for remuneration. I'm very happy to be here in California. My introduction to the high interest that people are showing throughout this nation and elsewhere to space travel and space flight was exemplified in the convention that we attended at Pleasanton. We received tremendous assistance there by the high interest the enthusiasm and the understanding that was shown there. So we were delighted to have the opportunity in a very busy schedule to join again with Major Aho and spend a few days in the California area which is most assuredly advanced in thinking as relates to the age that we're coming into. Two weeks ago we were invited to New York to be interviewed on a national program Station WOR

which covers half the nation on what is known as a party line program very similar to your night owl program here in the Los Angeles area. And the first words of the announcer were as he introduced me he said, Mr. Carr I understand that on December the 7th 1101 a.m.

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December the 7th 1959 you are going to depart for the moon. This is correct with a possible slight revision. It may be a couple of hours past midnight. The reason being that we have been advised by the Martians our departure due to magnetic waves. This was a very confused announcer. He said, do you mean to tell me that you have been talking to the Martians? I said, no I didn't say that. A couple of nice little girls who never saw me before handed me a message in St. Louis stating that this had come from the Martians. And this was this advice and it was very beautifully and tactically given. So he said, well do you believe it? I said, I do not disbelieve it. We are planning to depart on this date in an electrified circular foil craft the facsimile model of which is shown here in prototype form. We have invited Major Aho. He has accepted there will be three people on this craft myself, Major Aho and one not yet chosen and the applications are coming in.

Our flight plan has been predetermined. We will depart from Space Maryland and it will take us approximately five hours of flight Earth time to the Moon. Our first orbit around this planet will be 5,000 miles an hour in its atmosphere. Our second orbit around the planet going through the ionosphere will be 18,000 miles per hour. And our third orbit at approximately 1,000 miles out will be 25,000 miles per hour. At which time we will accelerate towards the Moon at 76,000 miles per hour and be orbiting around each other side in a five hour flight schedule. We do not plan to land. We plan to complete this figure eight and return to the Earth and deaccelerate identically as we started out. First 25,000 18,000 and 5,000 down will go point landing at Space Maryland where we will depart from. The little plot of real estate which we have where this craft will be fabricated in a space research hangar is in Baltimore County outside Baltimore City

going north. We asked the post office if anybody had ever thought about naming the place Space and they hadn't. We've had a lot of fun

and we've had a lot of heartache but we see a goal which we expect to make on schedule. You can't do these things alone. You can only work alone so long and then you have to join with other people for cooperation. As a public speaker Major Aho suggested that when I was having difficulty of understanding why don't you go with me to some of these people and see you'll find out that you're going to get encouragement and this is what you need. A little bit more encouragement not too much of the sneering and the ridiculing. And this is exactly the way it worked out at the Pleasanton Convention which was my first beginning in coming in contact with so many people we had in many letters individuals willing to think for yourself and that's why you're here tonight. There are thousands of people in the Los Angeles area dying of curiosity over the USO but they haven't got courage enough to be seen in a public meeting. An honest intelligent person

who honestly intelligently tries to report what he has seen in the sky which is different from anything that he knows about is ridiculed and laughed out of the press. Four hours after he makes the report what's wrong? This is exactly what's happening all over this country and all over the world. It wasn't easy to set this date of December 7, 1959 as a tough working schedule. It would have been much more comfortable to have made it five years from now but I'm throwing a challenge in the teeth of a lot of people. It's put up or shut up. We know the rockets are obsolete because they are weapons. Missiles and anti-missiles and missile missiles and warheads via the billions of dollars. Ours is a spacecraft that will take us from here to Santa Barbara or from Santa Barbara to the moon and return to the other planets. And it has about three moving parts as compared to 300,000 on the last rocket failure that we had.

We started this program by introduction in 1925 in New York City when we were drawn like a magnet to the man who history now states invented the 20th century Nikola Tesla but we always call Nick Tesla and will continue to do so. This man took an interest in us a 20 year old youth we somehow think now that we know that all scientists work in a vacuum and unquestionably that's what he probably thought my head was. He slowly led us in the paths of learning about electricity. This man knew nothing but electricity and its great power and he never ceased exploring its potential of use and by the turn of this century he had 1200 patents on electrical principles some of which have not yet even been put into practice on this planet including inertial guidance systems remote control, television, radar but above all he saw the need that people themselves should have the opportunity to utilize some of this power and have some of the comforts

and he came up with the answer alternating current and what a battle he had seven years he went with the squirrel cage motor to try to interest the mighty and the great that here was a way that everybody could have electricity the first electrical age was good it was a great pioneering achievement Edison and the Edison type generator direct current but it was only good for two square miles and if you were on the end of the square miles your light was mighty dim and Tesla corrected it but it took him seven years to fight the interest that said it couldn't be done nevertheless his first hydroelectric system at Niagara Falls transported electricity right in Mr. Edison's backyard as efficiently as it was done at Niagara Falls and the second electrical age was born alternating current is the age we're living in now the ability to transport electricity over wires long distances he never had it easy Mr. Tesla didn't he cared nothing about money

he was interested in progress we were indeed fortunate to have been brought in contact with such a great man with such a great mind Mr. Tesla gradually started to talk to us about space he said do you realize that if we can build an airplane clumsy as they are to go from one place to another we can build devices from one place to another just a matter of whether we want to do it we have all the tools and all the knowledge put them together but he said this I will tell you it'll be the young people that are going to do it I'm speaking of thirty some years ago and there's only one way you're going to do it you've got to have power that you can carry with you and bring back with you the universal one this is electricity to electrify a craft and you're on the road to space travel and we remembered this and we became interested one day Mr. Tesla said to me come with me I'm going to show you a visitor from space and I was terribly shocked

because he never made one idle word or idle statement 1926 this man says I want to show you a visitor from space I looked at him I thought has Nick put these lids is this for real and I followed him to the museum of natural history down into the basement and he pointed to a huge meteor as large as this piano he said this came from another world this did not originate here it is a visitor from space if you will study something about it maybe you know a little bit more what I'm talking about and he turned and walked away we had a very fascinating study for six months about meteorites fireballs, bolides these things in the heavens that sometimes get in our atmosphere but what this great man had done he had opened up our consciousness I don't think we had ever looked at the heavens except the sun or the moon once in a while to become interested in moving bodies in the sky but more than this we've begun to become conscious even as a young lad

of what a vast universe it was and how maybe it might be people maybe other consciousness like our own here and there all over this tremendous universe a continuation of humanity what a great thought to see and talk and know that we were truly the universal children of God I think this is why Nick showed us the meteorite three years of association with him it ended like it begun he said you've got the ABCs and the primer it's up to you and I never saw him again it took ten years of study to try to think that I knew a little something about electricity and believe me what I don't know about it now will fill many libraries so we returned to New York in 1938 because to us it was the mecca of study we had access to Columbia University and New York University departments of physics we knew a scientist who loved us very well and shared every bit of his knowledge we met another scientist who set up a laboratory in New York City a fabulous city

research at your fingertips in all directions we started then to study how can we electrify a crash electric motors and put them in airplanes and we built our model airplanes and they wouldn't be airborne because the motor and the battery is a whole lot heavier than the plane or the power that we got out of it but at least we were trying continued to build models to get to the root of the problem drop every other problem and start whatever is in front of you push it aside and see what you can do so we started to study transportation and begun this was a wise move transportation led us to the greatest invention of all time which we so take for granted the common wheel the anatomy of which is the fulcrum, the lever and the inclined plane and all the civilization that we know on this earth today savage as it might be owes what it has to the wheel not one piece of machinery on this planet is run without it it is the anatomy that we are

mechanically we went far back into antiquity always we found the wheel somewhere or other the pharaohs application always a civilization around we found out that the American Indian never saw a wheel people would not have been so easily conquered if the wheel had been a part of their civilization or their savagery we got a lot of respect for this lowly wheel and we started studying it from every particular angle could not be a top or it could not be a scientific device unless it had the anatomy the fulcrum, the lever the inclined plane and we started to get a little bit of respect for the fact that here was a force making a gyro operate which gravity one part of it centrifugal force and a wheel and application this would make the real 1938 so we started to cut out discs and toss them through the air and we found out that they if they were properly balanced that they were quite well airborne when they spun and we started to build our first model

balsa wood and considered power we knew what Mr. Tesla had said and we thought we could build an electrical power system here we've got this thing on the road to being solved plugged them into outlets and started to getting some success in transportation in our little laboratory they were going from one place to another not very graceful the boy who raced into the explorers club in New York and he says congratulate me we have just driven an electric automobile from Mexico City to New York and after the handshakes and the back slapping one of them said how much did it cost and he said $5250 some odd dollars I spent $3.50 for electricity and the rest was for the extension cord so we began to wonder where we could get an extension cord big enough for space it didn't make much sense some of these ideas still holding on to them we had a scientist whom we respected particularly the great Albert Einstein whose approach to the problems

mathematically and physically were always dedicated and sincere he asked to give us an interview we told him about the fact that we thought the wheel in the air was the right way and he was interested and this man said to me he said this I can tell you and this you must remember man cannot leave this atmosphere and he cannot return unless he has his own force field with him it's your job to learn something about force field that ended the interview but I saw right away another missing link to space transportation we knew one was electrical power we knew one was protection for our craft a force field and so we started to study force fields and we found out that they did exist here and this was excitement all we had to do was to figure out how to electrify this thing seeking a little rest in the good book because it was always one of inspiration we accidentally opened to the first sixteen verses of Ezekiel with the knowledge that we already knew

here was a man who saw a wheel within a wheel going straight forward a little bit confusing turning knots as it went pretty difficult for an observer to tell which way something flattened around is going Ezekiel was a little confused he described this craft as having the power of lightning and this was excitement to us because we knew lightning and electricity are the same they may not have had a word for it in those days and he further mentioned the power of amber and our researchers have told us that amber was our first manifestation of the applications of electricity on this planet according to recorded time there were two tremendous clues he had seen something that was the same as a criss-cross it was exactly the same with the whole of the universe when the universe began we were not able to see anything we were only able to see ghosts we only could see the light and the earth and the stars and this was the first time we could see

a man an eagle, the face of a lion, and the face of a calf. And inasmuch as lightning meant electricity, and inasmuch as face means character, it wasn't difficult to use the phrase characteristic of a

man, intelligent direction, characteristic of an eagle to be beautifully airborne. Their flight

is proof of their characteristic. And the characteristic of a lion is power, vibratory

power to be the king of beasts alone upon this earth. So here's a craft that has intelligent

direction, is airborne like an eagle, and it has unlimited power. It all made sense. I couldn't

tie the cap into it at all, but it stayed with me while we're starting to work on models. Electro maggots on the outside, field maggots. And then all of a sudden, we got an answer there.

What is the characteristic of a bovine animal? It is a split hoof, the two poles of a maggot.

And the total answer was given to us, the right and the left, the north and the south. Really started to work. In the war, models were successful. We built them with our hands and had

machine tool parts made. And oftentimes, we were in hock for several weeks. For one little part, turned out that we got the job done, and we had successful flight. The reason is that we had found out something about the electrical principle. A little bit of novelty, a little bit of invention. Everything that has been done here is built on the shoulders of giants, but somewhere along the line, you sometimes invent a little something yourself.

We decided. take a storage battery and make it a piece of machinery and put it in motion as a part of its function and there was the novelty the eutron electrical accumulator we have named it is a

central power package for our crash extending out power from without extending in this is what makes

it work and this is what makes us work we have followed nature successful automobiles were

electrical if man had just gone though each battery a piece of machinery and put it in motion

and regenerated it as it in turn created power we wouldn't have the smog in los angeles today

i will can tell you one thing we don't have to have it here much longer the third electrical

age is on the threshold and we're blowing a little bit of a trumpet about it right now

believe me fossil fuels will go to work

they should be into the chemical industry rather than to contaminate our air this is the age that we're coming into we have found and actually and in the development of this that the world is not for food it's hungry first for energy we can always produce the food that we had many

energy with which to do it and you'll find the downtrodden nations hadn't any energy supply of 4 j lose produce food could easily produce it to produce actual nai oin Sport provisions in this worldafterly industrial technology and all about nui g Polish animal natural power fallsow solutions at any least tony worked a nda too sea using resident and and that only a few have it all. Right now, there's a threshold of great danger.

Those who own this limited energy are willing to trade a gallon of blood for a barrel of oil. It doesn't have to be, and we can prove that this is correct.

And our first efforts and our first opportunities when we start to expand our program is to make it available to all. India, Nasser, and those places who fight each day for a few BTUs. There won't be any need for a man to pick up a gun and shoot at his fellow man because he has something and the other one doesn't have it. We can all have this God-given energy, as much of it as we want, right here on this planet now. And we can have space travel, which is already here. It has been said many times that we're coming into a new age. Believe me, we're not. We're coming into an ageless age that has always been here. The interplanetary age has always been here. We are coming into a new consciousness of it. Other civilizations knew it, and other civilizations destroyed themselves. A great disaster destroyed them right here on this planet. One of our greatest thinkers and scientists of the present day starts his introduction

by this now-come-homo-eat-neuramus man. And he tells about 15 things that he doesn't know anything about as primary. He doesn't know what life is. He doesn't know what gravity is. He doesn't know the velocity of light. And he goes right down. And yet, those who have, chiseled away a little bit to harm the atom,

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beat their chest in a mighty loud voice. How great am I? We know this. Regardless how great they might think they are, we have never seen one of them yet to change his own diapers.

Last October, on the same week and the same day, by strange coincidence, surely not plain, we announced to the world in our published brochure, that we had invented a fourth-dimensional space vehicle. And that day, Sputnik was announced to the world. The very fact that it had been done,

we'd much rather our own people had done it, but regardless, we were delighted. Because it was verification of many of the principles that we have specified all the time. That with certain velocities, things become independent. So we stated publicly, they didn't want to listen, they'll stay up there for years, hundreds of years. Now, if they have received this velocity, and I think some of this has been verified, there's still a dead dog going around up there, I think. But it did bring a lot of people who said it couldn't be done. And this was of some assistance to us. At least, it got our first Associated Press releases in the first issue. They were killed in the second. But they made the first, all over the country. And this was good. So, thank you. And people started to write it. Some, no doubt, sitting right here in this audience tonight.

We have never been against this country. It is our birthplace and our forefathers. We were pioneers in 76. There's no feeling of lack of patriotism in anything that we would say. So we advised all government officials of our activities. And the fact that we had invented a spacecraft. They tried to advise them before. But it was of no use. Now, with space, in one section at least, a reality, we thought maybe they would show interest. At least we would tell them what we were going to do. So we went to Washington. And this is the world's largest snack bar, the Pentagon. And we were received, the Defense Department, listened to us. And they listened to our proposal. And they agreed to send investigators to our workshop in Baltimore. And their scientist, a physicist, publicly stated that he was convinced that an electrified craft such as I had described in prototype form would become airborne. And we were a little excited. Verification from high places.

But the first thing we heard a few days later was the public report, both in the press and over the radio. The Army has turned thumbs down Ankar's spaceship. This is one of the greatest papers that was ever done to us. They publicly stated that we had a spaceship. Everybody was yackety-yacking about rockets, rockets, and thrusts and all this. They publicly stated we had a spaceship. ...of that time last October and November and see if there was any words of spaceships in there. Any words. We didn't ask them for any money. We said, give us an order. And we'll deliver this craft. We'll take it outside the atmosphere and bring it back and land it in the inner rotunda of the Pentagon courtyard. And it won't cost you one dime until we've done it. And if we've done it, it'll cost you some money. What it cost us to do it. Our proposal was not accepted. A lot of people have said to me in question-and-answer periods, if what you have is what you say you have,

why hasn't the government done it? Well, I don't know. Why hasn't the government taken it? It took us some time to have what we think is a satisfactory answer. The government is not in the manufacturing business. Everybody, all of a sudden, seems to have the idea that they are. They make money and collect taxes. And every one of these rockets, everything that they're doing is built by private enterprise. But somehow or other, people have it in their minds that the government is doing it. And that's what they're doing. And that's what they're doing. And that's what they're doing in the manufacturing business. They're not. We are the government. In our system, elected representatives are there for a while now. The elected representatives I talk to didn't want to do it. Maybe next year it'll be different. This is America. And this is a wonderful thing, free enterprise. They'd shoot me real quick in Russia if I got in their way. Everything that's

worthwhile in this nation that makes it what it is today was built by free enterprise without patronage, by individuals who were pioneers, not afraid to go out and do the job. All of a sudden, in the consciousness of most people, you have to get the government to do it. Uncle Sam's got to lead you along. Boy, this is police's thinking and this could be ruinous, police. Other parts of the questions and answers. One boy said, OK, you build the OTCX-1 and it flies as you say it does. What's to keep the government or the army or the state or the defense from confiscating it? And I said, in that case it'll be the OTCX-1. The lad said to me,

you're going to get a license to fly it from the CAA. And I told him we had made an investigation and found out that there is no law to keep you from going straight up on your own property.

I wanted to know how much this would cost. Forty-five foot craft approximately 30,000 with a sealed hermetically sealed hole keeping them in atmospheric comfort and with a storage cell the accumulator producing 12,000 volts of electricity on the initial start aluminum shell even though it is a model T we don't have time

will cost one million seventy-six thousand miles. It carried a price tag seventy-six thousand miles. It carried a price tag of 19 billion dollars. That's what it's worth. Something of violence to shoot at somebody else. A billion is one thousand million in case you've forgotten your arithmetic. So one million five hundred thousand dollars is a mighty small drop in a mighty big bucket. We did worry some about where we would get this money and the more we worried the scarcer it got. All of a sudden we stopped worrying. We stopped worrying and we haven't worried since. For any handout some boy said to me last night he said why aren't you worried about the mission of exploration. We stopped worrying and we haven't worried for a one hundred thousand million dollars and we have found a lot of

useful and useful resources for the United We're not alone in this, and we haven't been from the start. One reporter said, why do you always use we? In an editorial sense, and I said, probably you could call it that. He says, well, only kings and presidents and people who have tapeworms are allowed to use we.

We continue to use it, and we're not a king or a president, and I don't know about the others. We invited Major Aho on this trip.

I don't know of any person on this planet who is deserving of the honor of such as could be called.

He has steadfastly stood up for the truth. In fact, he has demanded the truth. He knows that it has not been given to us. And he says we have the right to know exactly what is going on. And for this, I have great admiration, believe me. After training and study and after building electrified craft of our own, we had the good fortune to see the electrified craft in the sky. The spacecraft are here. We have seen them. We know they exist. But you ask the average person on the street for an opinion, and you're supposed to be a crackpot. The truth makes you a crackpot. We're mighty glad that they are around. Maybe they can help to get us out of the mess that we're in. Wherever a balance is struck in nature, the minute it is done, any motion, any movement, immediately sets up a counterforce. And man himself has again found out how to totally destroy himself. He wasn't satisfied to do this. He has stockpiled it up to the point.

It's already made, created, and done. All have some. The only thing somebody has to do is press the trigger. This is the balance that has been struck. Either our consciousness rises up, either we go into new horizons, and either we grow up to our God-given heritage, or we don't have to be on this planet. It can get along without us. There's an awful lot of forms of life on this beautiful planet Earth. We'd love to have the opportunity to have us pushed aside. The spiders are good engineers. When men, constantly, as consciousness arise, there is always a renaissance. Somebody who called herself scientist, or somebody released last August to the press that they had recommended that one of our services shoot to the moon with a hydrogen warhead so we could all witness the great big fireworks up there. Some Japanese scientist said, well, maybe that would be a cause for laughter. But if we got 20 hydrogen warheads back,

we may all die laughing. We protested and we protested in the press, wherever we could get an audience, that it is criminal to shoot at an unexplored body.

[02:00:00] Closing discussion and final remarks

A violation of ethics, a violation of the laws of man and God. There's only one way to know about an unexplored body. Go there and find out. Suppose that Columbus had said to Isabella, the queen, hock your jewels and I'll build a cannon big enough to shoot all the way around the earth and prove to you that it is round. This is how asinine shooting at the moon is. This is why we set this departure date.

To force the hand, many hands, I think spacecraft have been known about before even my invention. And they are known about. We have concealed nothing. Our own government and other scientists have the entire science of what makes our craft work. So why the billions for destruction?

We set this date and we made certain that it wouldn't be interfered with. This is one of the providers that we knew would come. We have had our engineers design the total working drawings of how a spacecraft can be built. And given the entire specifications of science behind it. And we've made it available to the youth or anyone else of this land. And they're going through the mails right now. Our craft has no strategic value because everybody knows about it. The hottentot, the Russian or anyone else. Somebody says to me, suppose you get up on the moon, what do you expect to find? I said, I hope I don't find any vodka bottles. has stated that if we don't get back on the seventh day

that we should have a pre-published release. That we have been detained by moon women. It's been hard work. It's been a lot of fun. And I assure you I gained a lot of strength from talking to people who have the courage to listen. And the very people who were ridiculing me a few weeks ago

are calling me on the phone now for television and radio audiences. The situation is changing and it's changing very fast. And if I hadn't got the courage from you good people, maybe I would not have continued. The courage came and a lot of it came from California and I say God bless you and thank you. The storage cell, the eutron accumulator

traveling in the other direction. All from the same axis. This means that the cabin then is stationary because it is anchored to this axis. Also the landing gear. What happens here is that electromotive force stored electrochemically in the center eutron electrical accumulator is conducted out to the electromagnets to activate them. When they become activated the regenerative coils are repelled away from this field into the next one. This starts the circular motion the same as any induction motor. And the difference being here that power originates from within rather than being conducted to it. Now we found that when we set up this field and these capacitor plates become charged and release their charge into the shell of this craft we could pick up the electrostatic charge in the air and this is our force field. This means that we do not have any thermal barrier as such. A high velocity rocket burns up by friction

and even a meteor coming into our atmosphere burns up by friction because it does not have a force field. We have it. This means also that we can hermetically seal our cabin to a comfortable gravity condition and live in it in comfort and go at any velocity up, down, right, left without any feeling of gravity G strain whatsoever. Now this is a duplication of what the spacecraft are doing that are in our atmosphere except that they are doing it better. Ours is a Model T. If anything happens up there Major says he'll be the one to go out and grant it. There is an awful lot of questions that I know you people want to ask but I must apologize tonight my voice has quit on me. We've been pretty busy and for some reason or other it's just about ready. So we're trying to tell you that this basic principle has been checked out. We have flown models utilizing exactly what we stated here and they became airborne by gravity, electromagnetism

and electromotive force. This is the principle that will usher in the space age. Thank you very much.