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Ralph Huffman Daniel Fry

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and introduction
• [05:00] Ralph Huffman on the Seven Keys to Space
• [30:00] Expanding the Seven Keys discussion
• [01:00:00] Later questions and transition
• [01:25:00] Introduction to Daniel Fry
• [01:27:30] Daniel Fry address
• [01:50:00] Daniel Fry questions and closing discussion

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

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This keeps me from using my brain, see? Yeah. I believe the subject tonight that I was asked to speak on was a subject that I had talked on, I believe, last May in Hollywood. Seven keys through space or seven keys to space. It doesn't make very much difference whether it's a through or a to. And actually, folks, if you start to reason it out, we think of a heaven a long ways away from the earth. We think of a heaven a long ways away from where we are now. We're always talking about going to heaven or going someplace else. Believe me, we are living in space now and have been. Now, I don't know how many of you believe in reincarnation or rebirth. It doesn't particularly make a lot of difference here right now. I believe in it. And we have been living in space ever since there was a beginning and there was no beginning. The same as there is no ending. I'd like to read a book called I'm Going to Read a Little Poem

that I picked out might have bearing on this.

One ship sails east and one sails west by the selfsame wind that blows. It's the set of the sail and not the gale that determines the way it goes. Like the winds of the sea are the ways of fate as we journey through life, it's the set of the soul that determines the way it goes. It's the set of the soul that determines the way it goes. determines the goal and not the stress nor the strife. Now, I don't know who wrote that. It's a little book that I've had for a long time. It has no author given here. But if we think of that a little bit, you know a good many of us have come up through the Christian religion, and we can remember back when we were children and what we had been taught and have learned and have read in the various churches that we've come up through. We've all been led to believe more or less in the Christian religions in our time that our God is more or less a personal God. And I don't go along with that. If we can think of God as an

impersonal God, and that we are the captains of our own ship, that God isn't agreeing something for us or what we're supposed to do every minute. We are setting our own sails. We're setting our own fate. We're causing our own ills. We're causing our own troubles. Then I think we'll get someplace. I don't know what happened in the religion that we've known it. It's surely in the Christian religion. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We haven't seen the details. I have never seen a biblical book which says that God is this man. I don't know. I've never seen an interpretation of the scriptures or a verse out there that can be incredibly complicated, a verse out in the Bible. I don't know what opinions and origins that these people might have and why sayin', etc. is something from myself the only way I could envision it and then as we go along and we run into people and we run into teachers and we study various things a change occurs we

begin to find out that in the translation of the Bible and I might say this that Dr. Warren down in Alhambra who has done a terrific job on translation of parts of the Bible has found that where we have used the word God so many times in translation through to English the word energy should have been used now that's not taking anything away from God it's only adding to because then if we think of it in its whole extent we can honestly

[05:00] Ralph Huffman on the Seven Keys to Space

say that the grass is God the tree is God the rock is God. The building is God the cement is God. The sky is God, this universe is God, this omniverse is God. This everything is God. We are God because we are all different rates of vibration or energy so it doesn't

make very much difference what word we put on to it is how we can enlarge our thinking because believe me the last moment has passed. . The next moment will be coming, and we are planning every step that we make for the future.

Now, I want to go back on a few little things that has to do with space, because I know all of you here are interested in space. It was very much of a concernment of mine, oh, back in 1948, 49,

when so many of my friends in the metaphysical field could not believe that a so-called spaceship or flying saucer could be solid.

And then I had some very good friends in the saucer field, I believe some of the first of them, of the ones who said it was solid, the George Adamskys and the Bathrooms and the Angelusys, and not particularly Angelusy as far as solid is concerned, but he sees it both ways, the Rick Williamson's, the Dan Fry's, who said it was solid. And there got to be very much of a division between the metaphysical people and the saucer people.

One said it was solid, the other said it was ethereal. You know the funny thing? They were both right. The only thing was... At that time, a good many of them, at least, did not know very much about energy or God. Now, actually, God is the word that religion has put on this all-force, and energy is the word that science has put on it. They're both the same thing. Some day in the future, in the golden age, there will be no difference between science and religion, or religion and science. It'll both be exactly the same thing. And I've heard people say, and recently, that the Bible is a greater book of science than it is religion. And we haven't looked at it that way. So, energy and God, whether I use one word or the other, I'm talking about the same thing. Now, I gave as a subject tonight, Seven Keys Through Space, or Seven Keys to Space. And I had a reason. I believe if all of you will think a little bit of seven keys,

the number of times that you have read of seven used in various parts of life. It's mentioned in the Bible. It's mentioned in science. It's mentioned in almost any field that you want to talk about, whether it is numerology, whether it is geometry, whether it is any type of occult study. You can go on and on. Anything that is, a true science or so-called metaphysical science uses sevens, and justly so. Astrology, more or less, has gone by twelves, but when we think backwards that their twelves were taken, the twelve months from a golden age that existed previously, I don't find any fault with that. So, I say seven keys through space. So, let's simplify so that we can understand it. A key, could denote a sound or a visualization of a key on a piano or a key that opens something. And I don't care which way you think of it. It's right. Now, on a piano, we have many octaves, and that key of C extends as the first note on every octave, doesn't it?

And just because the piano has ended here on our right and ended here on our left, there's no more keys visible, doesn't say that there is not sounds that goes on forever. Both ways. It is just not audible to the human ear. So, there are notes then. Each octave above each other, C, D, E, F, G, A, B, and then C, the next one. Now, in my mention of the twelve in connection with numerology, which I know some of you are interested in, I want to mention this, but I don't want to talk about it very much tonight. In those seven keys there, on the one octave, there's also five black keys, aren't there? Seven and five are twelve. So, we'll not talk about those five black keys right now, but we'll extend this on into some other things that we know of the sevens. The reason that we have been interested in this, and we have been into so many messes in this world, is muddled thinking. Now, I know when I was in school, I was taught the six-color theory.

I was taught the triad, which is right. Yellow, blue, and red. Now, that is right. But I was taught that there was only six colors. Three primary and three secondary colors, which made the six colors of the color circle. Now, so we come into science in the last few years, and it doesn't work. There are seven colors. There has to be. You can't even build a television screen in color without using the seven. And we've known it in a lot of other things in science also. There has to be seven. So, I want you in your mind, as we mentioned these now, we talked about the seven notes on the piano, I want you to take those seven colors now and put them on those notes. I want you to put the red color on C, I want you to put the orange color on D, I want you to put the yellow color on E, I want you to put the green color on F, I want you to put the blue color on G, I want you to put the purple color on A, or the light purple. Now, there's a little bit of difference

in how we call these next two colors. Some say, a light purple, a dark purple, some say, a indigo, and there's a lot of names right now, but I'm sure it's going to come down to possibly right names, like we call red and yellow and so forth, the rest of them. But actually, the next two colors would be what we would think in our mind's eye as sort of a a blue-violet and the color's a little higher as the seventh one, as the red-violet. So whatever names they are, it doesn't matter. So you put those on your keys. Now, that is one octave. I want you to put it on just the one octave here. Now, let's come into some other things that we know. We know that we have seven centers in our spine. We know we have seven psychic centers. We know that there are only seven sounds that you can utter out of your mouth. The rest are all breaths. A is a basic sound. It's a vowel. B is a breath. P, E, S, E. There's only seven sounds with the use of breath.

And there isn't anything that you can think of in this world that we're living in that you cannot divide into the sevens.

Now, those sevens, as I said, the deeper study have overtones or its opposites, which you could add five more on, the same as the five black keys on the piano. Now, I would like to take this little chart that I have used before in my lectures and how many of you have been to any of the lectures I've given on energy. Well, I think it's safe to do it again because it will be new for most of you because, honestly, this is the basis of the whole thing. The greatest understanding that possibly we can have of energy or God. Let's take a clock with the twelve numbers on it. And just for the sake that the twelve is up at the top, let's put the highest energy that we can give a name to. Let's call it dynamic energy. The highest energy that we can think of. Let's put that on the number twelve. On the number one, let's put electricity. On the number two, let's put light. White light. On the number three, let's put the whole color circle.

Coming down, of course, then, your first color would be your purples. And down to your last one, your reds, as we're coming down from the top of this clock. And after we go through our reds, then on the number four, we would have heat. The number five would be sound. And the number six at the bottom, directly opposite from dynamic energy, matter. The number six is matter. So we have come from the highest source of energy there is down to the lowest, we know. Dynamic energy to matter. Honestly, that is what the scientists have called gravitation. That cycle coming down. Now, you people know that energy cannot end. It cannot be destroyed. It has to go back, doesn't it? So we've named six of them, from the figure twelve down to the number six. Now there's five others. I don't want to dwell on this too much because science is just coming into it. Just coming into it. There are five others to complete back up to the twelve.

And I could give you some hints of what they are. You would have your silences. You would have your coals. You would have your black lights on the other side. Your black lights do not attach themselves to purple, as some of the charts have been. They're all in the coals, in the cools, in the silences. And that is energy, believe it or not, returning back to itself because everything has to revolve. Now, I would like to do one other thing now, if you have that in your mind's eye. I would like you to lay that clock down on the floor and for you to stand above it and to picture that not only is that a circle that you're looking at, but that is a spiral that you're looking at. That's coming right directly up, right up through the ethers, just as far as you can envision it. And I would like you to make, every time that spiral goes around, one octave. And you come right back to your same color each time. You come right back to your same tone

or anything else, don't you? But each one, if it be a color, it's a tint of the color that was below it. If it's a note, it's an octave higher note. If it's a sense, it's an octave higher note. It's a higher understanding of that sense, a higher vibratory rate. Now, being as I mentioned the word senses or sense, it's one of the things that I haven't brought out too much before, and I believe that this would be the time to say something about it, because it fits onto this chart too, very much so, because the senses are us, we human beings. Now, we know what some of our senses are. We know that we have the sense of feel. We know that we have the sense of hearing.

We know that we have the sense of seeing. We know we have the sense of smelling. And we know we have the sense of tasting. Now, those are only five. Now, I don't want to get into an argument, because there could be different opinions on this. But if we go back to what we think is the beginning of things, on this earth, we know there was only one sense that was working. My sincere belief is that the first sense that worked with us, of course, was the sense of feel. And then we came through all the others, for the five. Now we have two more. Now we're on the cusp, so to speak, of golden age. We've only played these five notes on the piano. We've got to start using our other two. And the lowest word that I can put on the sixth would be the word intuition, which we all know what that means. Intuition. Usually, if we follow our hunches or intuitive processes, we usually find we are right. Now, let's dwell on that word intuition a little bit.

If we keep on going a little higher in our thinking, a little higher octave, so to speak, we're actually in tune with the Godhead, aren't we? We're reaching up here and we're grasping something that is. We can bring an invention down here because it is there. We can bring more light to what we're thinking about because it is there. In other words, we're reaching up to grasp it because we're on this spiral going up in our development. So you can put this word intuition, keep raising it up as far as your own development is, making that word just as fine as you understand it. Now, how about the seventh one? I would like to put the lowest word on it as thought. Now, that doesn't sound like very much because we all think that we think, don't we? But when we think constructively, that is love.

So many of us have put the wrong attachments on the word love. When we think constructively, that is love. And you know what the word is if we think destructively. Now, a thought is a creator. That's why it is the highest of the seven senses. A thought is a creator. It's a vibration. It's energy, isn't it? If you think a thought, have you ever considered the fact that if it was a negative thought, that energy that you send out cannot end? It comes back, slaps you, doesn't it? Because you were the master, you were the maker, you were the developer, you were the creator of that negative thought. And so, a positive thought sent out cannot do anything else but develop yourself because you thought it. It's a thought of love. Now, let's develop the word thought a little higher to some of the things we know. We know that if we think a thought about something new, it's first a thought, then we put it down on a piece of paper,

then we make something out of it, and it benefits mankind, doesn't it? We've created something out of it. But it was first a thought. But we went through all these processes here, particularly on the Earth. I'm sure that beings on other planets, depending on how high they are evolved, have passed our state of existence. They shortcut from the thought. From the thought to the making. Because the thought itself is so powerful that it creates. Now, why do we not have even the development of Jesus the Christ? I know that I wouldn't want it right now because when I drive an automobile and I think a thought about somebody that has passed me that has violated a rule or something else, if that thought was made a creation, I would possibly have everybody non-existent, in every place that I have driven. So I am not a master, then, of my thoughts. That's why I'm here on this Earth. Now, the Christ's thoughts were so fine,

such a high octave, that when that thought was there, it was a creation. It was a creation of love. It created something. It could create bread. It could create fishes for the multitude. It could actually create an Earth. It could create a cosmos. It could create a system. There are the seven that we can use here. Now, there is five more on the other side,

making up the twelve, even on those seven of the senses that in the Golden Age we will develop. There's five of everything on top of the seven, but we're only interested in the seven right now because we're not in a Golden Age. And then when we come up on the next octave, don't forget that the C above the C where we're standing on an octave, if we're here on middle C and the C above that, that's the thirteenth note, isn't it? Counting the seven notes and the five black ones, it's the thirteenth note. And is not that C mastered, the octave below it, because it's a higher note, it's a higher tint of a color, it's a higher sense? Actually, that is the master of this which is below. The Christ was the thirteenth, because the Christ had mastered that which mankind is going through. It was the thirteenth, or the first of another octave. And in numerology, it works out the same way. Now, I'd like to come back to this little clock thing

that we talked about with the twelve numbers on again. Let's take this dynamic energy that we start down from. The highest thing that we can think of, and we put electricity down there on the number one, didn't we? How did dynamic energy get to be electricity? Dynamic energy got to be electricity

because through love or through resistance, if you want to call the word in science, it gave itself up and became electricity because it was a lower vibratory rate than that which it was. Electricity became light. Light. Visible light. Because through a love force or a resistance, it gave that up, which it was, and became something of a lower vibratory rate than what it was. And so on, the whole way clear down to matter. So when we get down to matter, I put my hands on this table, I say, it's very solid. And I look at all these things around me and I say, you people are very solid because I'm seeing you with the human eye and I'm hearing you with the human ear. The first five of those senses we talked about. I'm not using the sixth and the seventh when I say that. And still intuitively, the sixth sense, I know there's something beyond that that you are. I know there's something that I'm only looking at a shell here of what is the real you.

You've existed for a long, long time and you cannot be destroyed. If there's a heaven after now, if there's a place that you go after now, regardless of what religion that you believe in, there had to be a before. Something doesn't start right here now in this moment. And all the heaven is a past. It's up here someplace and there was nothing down here. Because anything that goes along a route, if there's an eternity here, there's never been a beginning here on the other side. And that is a definite law. Because who are we to say, we see all different shades and varieties here in this life as human beings. We see some that we would say, I would certainly like to be like him or her in their development. We see others that we say, well, I feel sorry for that person. I wouldn't want to be in his boots of some of the things that he or she is doing. We're seeing all different places along this line. We're looking at it right with our human eye.

And we have passed that development. The only reason that we say that we wouldn't want to be in she or his boots is because some life, somewhere, sometime, we overcame that by getting our fingers burnt. When we pick a paper up and we read about some person who has taken another's life and we can't understand it, I say to you people right here that every one of you have committed a murder. Someplace, sometime. And you have risen above that. The only way that you know that it does not pay. You see, so this is a refining process. We're all sitting here. We've been really in the refiner's fire. It's a refining process. What are we doing? We have thought of Jesus the Christ and the mastership that has been attained there. That is what we are working for because can you not see, even in our criticism of things that we will not do now, that we have passed that ourselves towards mastership? So we're going up, as this example up here,

as Jesus the Christ, we're going up that ladder toward that. Believe it or not, we are in the minute that we see things that we won't do ourselves. We have conquered that. We have absolutely conquered that. Now, on this little clock again, and I have to keep coming back to that

[30:00] Expanding the Seven Keys discussion

because actually that is the core of everything that I'm talking about tonight. The side coming down from the 12 to the 6 through the numbers 1, 2 and so forth is gravitation. It's about all that science is known about in our time, at least since the time of Atlantis. They knew about the other side. In Atlantis' time, they knew about the other side in Lemuria's time, so forth. The reason we have sunk so far is that even those senses that we've used, we came down from the 7th to the 6th to the 5th and so forth, we were not even using the rays or the 7 keys inside of ourselves. So how could we grasp the whole thing? The other side going up, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, is the levitation side. That's energy returning to itself. So you have gravitation on the one side, which is heat, which is force coming down from dynamic energy to matter. There's a side that you see, with colors and light. You hear a sound. You see that all with the eye.

That's where the noise is. That's where science has been. Now, why do you suppose the United States government is... They have expedition after expedition at the North and South Pole because they are beginning to touch this levitational side at 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 on this clock. And your mind's eye. Because that is the silence. That is the extreme coals. That is where the resistance on electricity hardly exists, as you keep on getting into more extreme coals. That's where magnetic energy in the real borealis is practically the same thing in its existence. And we're finding out many things. All right, now let's come back to what we touched on that little while ago, too. I'm sort of on a spiral, too, on this little thing as we come back to it on our different octaves. We know that an apple falls from a tree to a ground, but the thing that I've never been sure of and I sort of revolt at is the fact that I'm not sure that apple was pulled to the ground.

I think it was pushed, as far as gravitation is concerned. I think it just followed a line of force. The solar system is the sun being the greatest giver of force. Solar energy and the Earth being a lesser. So I can't conceive in my mind's eye that the lesser could pull that apple to the ground. I think it was pushed to the ground. Now, maybe I'm all wrong because I know Galileo proved gravitation and it was said that it fell to the ground because it was pulled there. But I think it followed a line of force. And the force came from a greater to a lesser. Now, when we think of a flying saucer, we have this clockwise and we have this counterclockwise of energy, one working with the other. We have one that's gravitational using that field from the twelve through the ones down to the six and the other using the other field from the six through the sevens up to the twelve. And one is in perfect balance with the other, these two force fields.

And here's the way it works, and I don't care whether you're using color, whether you're using tone, or whatever you might want to think of. You cannot see good unless there's a little inkling of the bad over here. You cannot see a positive unless you have a little inkling of what the negative is. Your eye will even prove that on seeing color. It's impossible for the same cones and rods on your eye to see a yellow without seeing a purple because that's the way your eyes are built. It's impossible to see a yellow without seeing a purple because they jump from one to the other, to the opposites. It's impossible for a saucer or a spaceship to motivate itself. And this is my own opinion. If they would turn on all the percentage of energy on one side without a little bit of the other on at the same time. And here's the way I'm sure and I know it works and it must work the same way out on a saucer in the electromagnetic fields.

If you use... There's 64 degrees. If you use 62 degrees on the gravitational side of any one of these things that I've talked about you have to use 2 degrees on the other side because there's 64 counting the whole thing. Can some of you people see and I'm not trying to bring any religions in this or I'm not trying to separate anything. The mason's got the 32 degrees going back half of that circle. The other half's the other 32. 64. So if you use 32 degrees of one and you use 32 degrees of the other you're going to stay motionless, aren't you? Because one force field is working exactly at the same speed that the other is. If you use color the same way it works the same way. If you use sound the same way or anything else. Keep this clock in your mind when we're talking about this. The absolute opposite of heat would be cold, wouldn't it? So if you have the absolute absolute of cold you don't have a chance to ever get back to heat again if you've taken 64 degrees

of cold there and not have a little inkling. Do you? That's why we can say that the worst person in this world that we could think of who we could say was a negative incarnate must have some good in them. Must have some good in them. They have to have or they couldn't motivate. So I don't care what you want to put your mind on on the sevens you can attach everything there in the same places. Now sure there's different rates of vibration on audio, there's different rates of vibration on being able to see and the various things through there but if you were to draw coming down on this spiral a straight line down that would be a red and a straight line down it would be a yellow and a blue and the colors in between. You could draw that line straight down there if you were to bundle it all up together you would have white light, wouldn't you? If you put a prism on it you would divide it into the seven. It's all there. That's energy, that's us.

That's the little ladder that we climb on because that is us. That's one of those seven. There's seven key elements and elements are the same no matter what planet you're talking about. It may be a higher octave of vibration but it is still the same thing as we would call hydrogen or oxygen or something else here. It could be a very higher octave well let's say on the planet Venus. Now I know one thing in talking about this thing that we call gravitation it's a field that I was in for five years doing a little experimenting keeping my eyes open. I don't know where the most of you have heard this before or not. We know that the highest energy that we can think of is cosmic energy much higher than atomic. We know that cosmic energy could destroy and we know it is the thing that makes life because it is the all. As the all energy is coming from all planets, central suns through to our sun and we're tied up just like lines of force from everything that we can see

out here in the cosmos. Every planet and everything else is these lines of force. We're held practically suspended there if we wanted to draw it as a picture. And we know that any little thing that we do here is going to affect these others it's going to stretch that little rubber band from here to Venus or from here to Mars or anything else. It can't help but do it make a change because we're so finely tuned from one to the other that anything we do is going to affect the whole system at least our system our own solar system here around our sun. So if we throw anything out of Kilder we're going to have to pay a price for it because we possibly didn't have the right to throw our whole solar system out of Kilder some of our ideas because we didn't know 100% of that which we were creating. We only took a chance. But nevertheless our sun is acting as a positive pole during the daytime and what is it here on this earth that is possibly acting as a negative pole

because you know where you have a positive on energy you have to have a negative and I found out that silica is one of those great batteries on our earth now if you think about that silica is that which exists in stand exists in the rocks in the mountains exists all over this earth and we know that things grow at night they receive energy in the daytime and you can't receive and send at the same time there has to be an oscillation there one or the other so here is the sun in the daytime from the time it comes up in the morning till it sets at night sending energy here on this part of our earth and the silica acting as little storage batteries in our earth the trace minerals if you please that's locked up in silica that's why you are beginning to hear so much the last year or two about silicons and so forth it's a whole new entrance into science into electromagnetic energies back in 1950 1951 1952 when I was on some of the

investigative part of this process I was laughed at Sacramento and everything else but those are some of the men that are coming around today and shaking my hand but they thought I was a strict nut in 1950 on some of the things that I said about silica and I believe that I got the glimpse from that from a past life in fact I'm sure I know some of the things that I did during the time of Atlantis and this is a renewal of some of those things you are only starting out where you ended at that time or maybe not even starting out where you ended you are getting glimpses of that which you did and I can see why in this life that I was not as an engineer or a scientist because I am not in this life but I was advertising manager for one of the large electronic companies for quite a number of years back in Warren, Ohio and I can understand now why I spent so much time in the metallurgical lab why I had an interest in it and the boys used to say to me

well you are the advertising manager here what are you interested in what we are doing in here I don't know but it fascinates me and I actually saw metals pulled out of the air back in the early 40's and I find out that we have everything in the air that we have in the land it can be pulled out by electrical means out of the air and so it enlarges in our self our own universe doesn't it that is what we are talking about that is what space is an enlargement of where we might go someday we have actually traveled practically all around this world we have pioneered almost everything we know where most everything exists now we are thinking of space and that is the future that is where our transportation will be in the future we are sitting right on the cusp and of course that would have to be a new age because we know that we can't take guns on space ships and go out here and conquer even the moon because it doesn't belong to us

we have to get all of that negative thinking away from us before we will ever be permitted or ever given an energy source that is higher a past rocketry to go to these places because for sure it cannot have a gun on it because that does not belong to us as human beings it was there a long time before this earth was here a lot of it it has been thought out by masters that are much greater than anything that we can even vision or realize and we have no right to destroy that which the great mathematicians of time long eons of time ago have built up we have no right to destroy that and we will not be permitted to either so you see in the final analysis we are right on the edge of something now this year in 1956 there is a lot of things that I would like to talk about tonight my lips are more or less sealed on those subjects I am going to stick to the pattern that I am on I don't want to talk too much about prophecy but we are on the edge

of some things that are terrific the next year the next two years the next three years up to seven years possibly then why we will see a new sunrise coming in at that time and we have all of that to go through so we should all be very thankful that we are living on the earth at this time because we are living in the most terrific period that has ever been predicted and we are here in a human body and we have to go through with it so be very glad that certain things are happening to certain of you people be very glad that you have seen certain things that even seem supernatural that you can't explain yourself be very glad that certain openings are happening inside of yourself you are beginning to understand things that you didn't a year ago because you are progressing if you do steal yourself because you know you can't be destroyed energy cannot be destroyed if all of us were to lose our lives this moment so what? you know we have talked religion for years

talking about a heaven and we get scared to death when the death bed comes around and all our elders hang around there and mourn us they should be sitting there singing songs of gladness because we are moving on we are progressing we have accomplished that which we came in here to do and did you ever stop to think of that which we go on to that possibly we are greeted as gladly by our friends as we greet a newborn baby here and here we mourn around here and we cry and everything else when somebody has left and here they are being greeted as they go on you cannot destroy we cannot be destroyed we have progressed life goes on we are eternal and so the reason that we are all here on this earth the reason that we have saucers today the reason that we have space ships the reason that beings are coming in here from other planets is because we are in this crucial period this thing that has been predicted for so long we must raise up

we must open up we must start to use this sixth and this seventh sense of these seven keys to space the sense of intuition we must develop it the sense of thought positive thought constructive thought we must develop it if we don't we are not worthy of living here in a new age and this is the time right now now that doesn't mean walking up and down the street with a bible in your hand actually the whole thing comes down to one point what is the motivation in your heart do you have a motivation in your heart for a better government do you have a motivation in your heart for a better money system or no money system do you have a motivation in your heart for a better house do you have a motivation in your heart for a better highway do you have a motivation in your heart for a better school system what is the motivation in your heart or are you pleased with everything that exists you are not interested in having it one bit better

and that motivation in your heart is going to be the thing that determines whether you're here or not if you want to be here and you have it inside of you to go through a new age and you're going to have plenty of work to do plenty of work to do because remember everything that comes up new has to be torn down first I would like to read something in closing this little thing that I'm reading from

was received in 1948 and the only reason that I'm reading this is that it fits with what we've talked about tonight the only reason that I have given you the date I want to show you that there has been things received many years ago and it hasn't been just happening this last year so I would like to read it for you and you can draw your own conclusions a new solar order is about to be established in that is light the paramount issue light is the final substance of all things and in that is the manifestation of a new creation and let me say this to the side that when we're talking about dynamic energy we're talking about light, aren't we? invisible light because I made a point of it when we came down to this so-called two on the clock that was visual light the light is the final substance of all things and that is the manifestation of a new creation ye shall hear of new tints from out the solar order and shall ye know that as a promise of old

the promise of a new earth as it is viewed in the record of the heavens the prisms of light in the sky shall radiate forth to change the molecular action of matter and in that is changed to higher values and greater potencies the chemistry of earth is changed through rays of light attending cosmic rays that are invisible even in the high tension field ye shall know of cosmic broadcasts that shall come through the instrumentality of man-made course the radio and further reaching instruments now being devised these shall be given to the world at large when the broadcast from interstellar space comes into manifestation through the final substance light ye shall hear of strange messages and shall ye understand them as cosmic direction of light and shall ye see cities and objects of strange accountings in the sky music shall come through a beltar shaped on a mountain in view of a great telescope and shall the music of the spheres

be recorded there the chemistry of earth is changing through cosmic ray charges of light new plants appear that shall hold the chemistry of a balanced food for mankind this is even now upon the threshold of a dawning day the consciousness of man hath reached a high pinnacle of possibilities and these possibilities are coming into manifestation through the final substance of light thanks now if there are any questions and I can answer them I will be glad to answer them in a few minutes well I think I know what you mean I don't see how you want to approach a gravitational field yes let's use that word

well actually it's an answer to development

because you should be very glad because actually you have come up on higher octave see you're working up to the godhead this way you see we are the creators

of this whole universe now I'm not saying that in a sense that's going to take anything away from the godhead we are the creators of this whole universe we are the creators of this whole universe we are the creators of this whole universe We are the combination, your thoughts, my thoughts, the thoughts of a Vesuvian, the thoughts of a being on the sun, the thoughts of a being on Mercury, the thoughts of beings clear out through space, the highest ones that we can think of. They are the gods, actually. They are the gods. But this whole conglomeration of thought is the thing that is creating universes, honestly.

There's an inborn thing in a mustard seed.

You see, every one of us touch that a little different than you would. Each one of us touch it just a little different because the thing that makes me up, this jigsaw puzzle of me, I'm trying to figure out what makes it click, you know. The thing that I can approach the Godhead on would be a little different than what you would do. Mainly, I am a masculine, you are a feminine. And another feminine... A feminine would approach it a little different than you would. I mean your conception. And you're all on a different vibratory track. There isn't two blades of grass on the face of this earth. It's the same vibration. There's no two human beings that are. So our approach would be a little different. Our road would be a little different. Our stones would be a little different. But actually what you say, we're all, we're not an organic body, honestly. We are a magnetic body. We're a life force body here. That's thought, isn't it?

We were talking about the seventh one thought, which is creation. Well, you have created that thought, you have made that thing, haven't you?

That constructive thought. That thought never ends. That vibratory thing that you have created never ends. If it's a good one, it comes back and it puts you up a higher octave. If it's a bad one, it puts you down, doesn't it? It chains you. Anybody else?

Would you like to ask anything? In connection with this, any experiences on saucers or spaceships, beings from other planets or anything like that? I might be able to answer them. I may not be able to. A very good friend of mine who I've been closely connected with for 20 years, and I look backwards on my friends, who are the best receivers and who have received things that maybe only 10% is right, only 40% is right, only 2%. And I've watched the motivation of some of these people, and you finally end up that you have just three or four or five, you know, that you can go back through this life that you know is on the right track. You've watched them. This has been received from outer space. I can give you the source if you would like to know.

And I'll even read this here at the first of this.

Sionis of the North. That's where it came from. Sionis of the North. C-Y. O-N-U-S. I couldn't tell where that was a no in the middle of where it was a G. It didn't make sense to be a G, but it looked like a G.

Would you say? Would you like to ask me where the source of some of the things that I've told you tonight have come from? No book.

That's right. I might say the source of something could be Keylops, or I might say it could be Philip. I might say it could be John the Baptist, but I couldn't tell you where to find them. You'd have to find them yourself, wouldn't you? No, no post office box. But very much of a vibratory. I'm sure that if you reach that in your thought, that you can raise yourself up toward that, I'm sure that they could meet you halfway, and you would possibly know the address. Are you a student of theosophy? I'm no student of Rosicrucian, although I have read a lot of things that Rosicrucian has put out. I do very little reading the last ten years. I have, if you want to know a little bit of that, I see you're trying to find out what background is. I've read some of the things that Rosicrucian, both up in San Jose and down in Oceanside, have both put out. I've studied tarot cards. I've studied Coptic temple work. I've studied a good many types of mysticism.

I've studied a good many things of the White Brotherhood, which I'm connected with. True. What? The White Brotherhood. I'm very, yes, I know all about that. And I have been interested in numerology. I've been interested in astrology. Astrology, psychometry, most all the sciences. I have been very interested in past lives, which I'm aware of a few of mine. And some things have been happening to me this last year that I don't care to talk about right now because it hasn't ended and I don't want to destroy it. And I find that, I don't know how it is with the rest of you, but every time I attach myself,

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in this life particularly, to a human being, that something knocks the props out on that for me. And it only comes back to one thing then. There's only one person I can be sure of, and that is my higher self. Please turn the tape over now.

If you are smart enough,

on the cycles of time, you know, if you can take this cosmos, this solar system, and think of it just as the wheels in a watch. You know that it's 10 o'clock, and this big wheel in here is in a certain place, and everything else is in a certain position inside of that watch, isn't it? The same thing with the cycles of time, the cycles of everything. There is nothing that exists that doesn't have a cycle, even you, as far as rebirth is concerned, a cycle, a definite cycle. The waves, a definite cycle. The electricity, a definite cycle. There is nothing that exists that is not a cycle. Now, here's where so many of us have our pitfalls. There are cycles of time. How much do you know about it? There are seven-year cycles. Actually, the human being here on this earth up till now was meant to live at least 144 years. How many do we live? We're lucky if we live 70. And every one of those is a seven-year cycle on top of a seven-year,

if you want to pick your great cycles. Your child's seven years, and then your next seven years, you reach adulthood, and then you feel your oats from the 14 to the 21, and each one of them is a definite cycle for a definite thing, clear up to the time of the passing. Now, those seven-year cycles are divided down in one-year cycles, and the year is divided up in 52 days, and so many hours. Gives you seven periods of the year. The day is divided into seven parts also of about three hours and 25 minutes. Now, let's watch this thing. Now, we can say that's a lot of money. Now, we know that the tides come up at a certain time, down a certain time. We can read the paper, and we can find out when that is every day, can't we? Now, we know those tides aren't doing it themselves, are they? We say the moon has something to do with it. Well, I say to you, when you say the moon has something to do with it, I says, well, what makes the moon do it?

And we could keep on and on and on till we go clear back to a central sun, couldn't we, on magnetic energies. So, that is the cosmic system working the whole way through, isn't it? Clear down to these tides. So, if it affects the tides and water, it affects you, doesn't it? Now, if you're smart enough on your intuitive processes or on your study or on your advancement to not be bucking your head up against this wall of cross cycles, you can be a success in anything that you do, depending on what you want to do. If it's money, you can be a success with money. If it's study, you can be a success with that. But you must follow those cycles. It's very silly to jump on a train if you want to go to Chicago that's going to New York, isn't it? And that's just about what we're doing. We're throwing ourselves in front of the tracks and everything else because we don't know where the tracks exist. And there is no God out here

decreeing that we're going to have poverty, that we're going to have disease or anything else. We have done it ourselves because we have violated the laws of the universe. We thought we were smart way, way back that we could turn around, we could shoot off some kind of energy that was going to destroy something. We thought we could go out here with a spray gun, we're going to kill a bug in our backyards just as bad. What did we do with the bug? Everything in life, from the smallest up to mankind, was all put there, one, in connection with each other. So we come in here with a spray gun, we kill this life out of there, don't we? And we were too doggone lazy to get our soil and something else in balance that bug would have something to eat. So we kill this bug out and we're acting as God right there. We say, it's your time to get out of here, boy. I am God and I'm bigger than you are and I'm decreeing that you go.

So what happens? The next bug along there doesn't have anything to eat, does he? So pretty soon he comes over and he eats you because you killed out the bug he ate. We've done the same thing in the woods. He goes out and we kill all the wolves. Then we have to go and we have to kill all the porcupines. It never ends because this whole thing has been thought out so perfect that you can't pull any wheel out of your watch. You can't pull anything. You couldn't even pull a dinosaur off this earth until the dinosaur was ready to go on a vibratory track. That's why we don't have any dinosaurs today because they couldn't live here under the cosmic ray that we're under now. And believe me, if we don't step ourself up to a higher vibratory track or a higher octave, we won't be living here under the cosmic ray we're going to have here seven years from now. So we can change our cell structure over arising ourself up, a refinement of ourself

until we can exist here. We could live on the sun if we knew the principles of everything. Absolutely. Any other questions? Did you say you belong to the white brotherhood? No card in this life. I am very aware that I had a connection even back to the time of Alanis. I had a teacher back in Alanis by the name of Kelops who visited the earth by choice at that time from another planetary system. And I was a scribe in one life there as a student of his where I... You know, you've heard so many times...

Now, we've talked about the seven... Now, you've heard of the seven rays. You've heard of the keeper of the seven seals. You've heard of the seven gates that you have to go through. And actually, that's no mystery. Your Bible tells you that seven times seven are the days of the spirit. Well, seven times seven are forty-nine, aren't they? It doesn't mean that you're going to have forty-nine lives here in the earth. It means you're going to have forty-five definite classrooms of experience. And when you're smart enough to graduate from the second grade to the third, you're on your way. The forty-ninth is your test of transmutation, of being able to take these elements that you have made this body up with to a light substance and transmute them. But when you leave here, this earth, you've learned all the lessons this earth has taught. You're ready to go on to a Venus or someplace else. But you have to be the master of those things.

Do you think when we pass on that we go to another planet? No. Not unless you... That is opening up a whole new subject. It's going to be a whole new lecture. You do not. You go out into what is called the astral realms around this earth, which there are thirteen of them, and you go to the plane that... You see, you sink down in the water or up in the heavens of where your vibratory rate is. You go with people of your kind, of your own rate of vibration. And you may go to the third plane, you may go to the fourth, you may go to the sixth, wherever it is. Well, through all the experiences that we have had through different times, it would mean what we are ready for. We can elevate ourselves to be on a higher plane. That's right. Now you're going to go to this astral world where there's the thirteen rings around this earth, and there's an astral world around every planet. I don't like particularly the word astral, so if you can think of a better word,

it's all right with me. The spirit world or whatever you want to call it. All right. But the soul realm is much bigger than that. Now, sometime when you are in this astral world and you decide that, well, I think I'm through with the earth, you've decided with your teachers and everything else that you're up in a pretty high place, you cannot go to another planet from the astral realm. You have to come back here in another physical body and take that body with you. Transmute it. And that's how you go to another planet and that's where the word spaceship come in the first place. You're transported by spaceship. They've been doing it for ages. You can go from the spirit realm and visit another planet like Venus, but you always come back here, don't you? You don't stay here. You can visit any place in an astral body, but you always come back here. Always come back here. Well, Kelly teaches a friend of mine her views on the subject.

Mm-hmm. But... The word V-A-L-O-R, I designed. That's my lettering. Oh. The same as the word understanding on Dan's publication. I've done a lot of designing for people who spent over this country in various occult things. I did some work for the Rosicrucians. I've done various things. That way. Lettering.

Well, you see, so many of us in our various religions, when we say the word good, that's not an apt word to put on there where we go. Good has nothing to do with it. I know some people that could have lived a practically, and, well, I don't like to use the word, but it's not a very good one, a heck of a life that might jump three planes or pass somebody else that lived a very good life. See what I mean? I thought they would have to be, if they lived that way, that they'd have to be reborn on Earth again and have karma to go through. Not particularly. You know, I don't know how many of you people have ever studied brain radiation, but, I had some things to learn from them. You know, I'd been very critical of certain Hollywood celebrities and people that way, and I thought, gosh, seven marriages, ten marriages, this person today, somebody else next week, and so forth and so on. Very critical, because the religion that I came up through,

some of it brushed off on me, I guess. And then I started studying brain radiation, and I found out, you see, it starts from the number odd up to the number 1,200. And they can test everybody's soul development today by brain radiation. It doesn't have anything to do with an intelligence quotient. Well, was that on the behavior record? That could be the same thing. But nevertheless, the most of mankind falls between 200 and 275 on a chart. At least 85% of all of mankind on this Earth falls between a 200 rating and a 275. The Christ was up around the 1200. More or less the imbeciles was below the 200. Strange as it may seem, a lot of Hollywood actors and actresses have fallen clear up to the 475. Much more soul progression than the 85% of the people. But there is a reason there. You see, when you get up to 475 on that thing, that is the last life or the last place on a radiation that is going to be the big eye anymore. And then it's for the work.

You see, there's no individual connected with it. I didn't do anything. It was the divine that worked through me from there on. You see what I mean? Now, here's Greta Garbo, changed. She had a 475 and she changed right in the middle of this life. She wanted to be alone. See what I mean? And still some of those people, morally, that we've condemned so much, inside of themselves, they knew that this was the last big fling with the ego. You see? And we've condemned them that they were down here someplace and they were up here. See? So we cannot qualify people that way. Funny thing. How many people here are schoolteachers? Raise your hands, please. Schoolteachers. Any of you? Any here that are college professors? Well, I can say this. What? All right. I can say this then. You wonder what's wrong with our education? Our teachers and our college professors are right down in the middle of this 275. There isn't any of them above it. And they're teaching our children.

And the children, a lot of times, are smarter than the teachers. And they read it in a book. It was not soul development at all. They read it in a book and only quote what the book says. See what I mean? What? So here's a funny thing, too. Now, that can go either positively or negatively because there's a positive and a negative to everything. Staline, when he was living, had a rating of 525. Terrifically high. Negatively, we could never beat a turn of a 525 as a head of our government unless we had at least a 525 in our government that was positive. How could he attain that in the negative? You can go just as far in the negative, practically. Yeah, but he shared behind the problem. That doesn't make any difference. The negatives can... You see what made even the downfall of Atlantis was the fact that they finally got to place in some things as we see a start of as hypnotism today. I'm not condemning hypnotism. Don't take me wrong.

But I'm only using it as something you can attach to. They had what they called thought slaves. And they thought they had progressed so far in Atlantis that they had droves of people that could control their minds. There was a downfall of Atlantis. And there was a terrific progression with a negative use. They could transport themselves any place at any time to find out anything they wanted to find out, which was laws of the gods, wasn't it? But they were using it negatively. You can do anything negatively. That's why you want to be very careful when you're contacting an astral world that which is talking to you is the real McCoy. And how are you going to know? They can come in and say, I'm John the Baptist. I'm Saint Germain. I can be anybody. See what I mean? And how are you to know

that they come from this solar system or another one?

Well, I can believe you because there has to be duplicates all through this cosmos of that which we see here.

Now, you're going to have to carry that just a step further before I answer you. ... went to the photographs,

got those, and he was dying in his bed. Now, how's about this? Well, let's go into that a little bit. I have a physical body here, don't I, that you see. I have an astral body that you don't see with the human eye. Some people do see them. It's an exact duplicate. All right, that's an exact duplicate. It's energy. Now, let's not get off of this. This is energy. The other is a higher or a lower vibratory rate of energy. And then we are also building up for the future an ethereal body, aren't we? And there's different colorations to them, as you can see it. Now, it's absolutely possible for a person to be on a deathbed and through thought for something they wanted to do even come down to a lower vibratory rate that somebody could see them that appeared to them to be a physical body. Now, let's go back to something. During the time of Jesus the Christ, your Bible has this in it where several of the disciples were out fishing and they saw Christ walking

across on the water, didn't they? Do you know what that was? Christ never broke any laws that they made. He would be the best keeper of the law. No, some of the disciples in some of the writings knew that Christ was sleeping right beside them a certain night in a certain one of the disciples' homes. And while he was sleeping, his light body went out there and walked across that water and they saw it absolutely as solids. You see, we're reversed on what the real McCoy is. This isn't the real McCoy. Our soul body, our spiritual body is the real McCoy. And we look at this thing and worry about this, our cuts and scratches all the time. And this is... What do you think you do

every night you sleep? Well, that's true enough, but I don't think that any of my friends while I'm sleeping see me going to their house or something like that. I've seen experiments done that way. Now look, if you want to start on one subject and you want to develop yourself for the next ten years, you can absolutely do something. Of course, you have to work toward anything that you're going to do, usually, unless there's something that's an emergency or something takes over like you were running out here and picking up this automobile because there's a little child laying under it that you couldn't do consciously any other time in your life. That has been done. So, you're using powers that is latent in you that you don't usually use. But nevertheless, if you wanted to develop yourself, absolutely, through thought, you could extend yourself any place that you wanted to be and sit on a chair and talk to someone else and as far as they are concerned,

they would see you just as I am seeing you now.

You don't have to swallow it. Do you know that there's a lot of beings walking the face of this earth today that don't have a body like we have? It's a light body. You see, we are made of light too. That's the thing that I was trying to tell you tonight. We have, we are matter but we came from that energy clear at the top and so did light, didn't it? What I was trying to show you, there's only one substance in the whole universe with a positive and a negative pole. There is no other. So, what are we talking about? There's only one substance in the whole universe with a positive and a negative pole. There is no other. You're holding out that this physical body here can't do a thing like that and if it was, if it was transmuted as light or one of these other things that we say is the same thing as a different radiation of the same thing, anything can be done, can't it? There is only one substance. So, the religionist has said God, the scientist

has said energy and every, every part of that is a different rate of vibration with a negative and a positive pole.

You see, truly for me to stand here and try to convince you to believe because it doesn't make any difference to me whether you believe it or not. I might feel good inside of me that you believe the same thing as I did but if everybody here was opposed to me and I was sure I was right, God and country couldn't change me if I was sure down inside that I was right. So, it doesn't make any difference to me how any of you people believe. I've got only one person to answer for and that's me and God pity me if I, if I say something that's wrong consciously. But if you're not sure of something and you can't prove it, now, let me, let me say this. You know when Edison invented the, when Edison invented the electric light and I shouldn't word, use the word invented, when he just reached up here for something that existed and finally brought it down. It was time for the world to have it. And they strung those wires in New York City. Do you know Edison came so darn close

to being strung up? It wasn't funny because those who did not understand said it was impossible to have it. It was impossible. It could not be. You will find always that the, the big condemners in this world, the big condemners of the people who are interested in spiritual things, the condemners of people who are interested in metaphysical things are the ones that can't grasp it inside of themselves and they're not willing to leave their mind neutral. But such a thing could be. See? So you'll have to be neutral. You cannot condemn Einstein unless you understand unless you've gone as far as he has in trying to understand what he was talking about. Cut this tape off. This question has come up

a lot of times. It comes up in connection with a projection of a body, a material body from one point to another. We can only understand it by taking the same route that we take when we attempt to understand what we call a fourth dimension or dimensions beyond our consciousness here. And that is what we call the fourth dimension or dimensions beyond our consciousness here. If we have what we call geometrically a line, it is a projection of a point in space or a movement of a point in space creates a line. And geometrically a line is considered to continue to infinity in both directions, which means that it contains an infinite number of points. We can say if we cut one point off of a line, have we changed

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the line any? How much shorter as before? Well, a point has no dimension. A point has no dimension in the direction of that line. So if we cut a point off, we still have just as much as we had before. We can cut as many points off that line as we want and still have the line. If we project that line perpendicular to itself, we create mathematically what we call a plane. Again, this plane contains an infinite number of lines. If we project a plane at right angles to itself, we produce what we call a three-dimensional figure or a solid figure. Again, that solid figure contains an infinite number of planes. The mere fact that we cut a plane off that solid doesn't change the solid in the least because it contains an infinite number of planes. When you cut one plane off, you still have an infinite number left. If we continue this one more step and project our solid in any dimension in any direction which is at right angles to all of the rest, now this we can't conceive in our mind

of doing any more than a unidimensional man could conceive of how he could project his line at right angles to itself. Geometrically, we can project the solid of ours into a fourth dimension, which means that the figure we then have would contain an infinite number of solids such as we had before. We could cut the solid off from that figure and not lose a thing. We could cut as many of these solids off. If we have an existence, if we are composed of something which has more dimensions than we are conscious of here, more than these three dimensions that we are conscious of here, we project as far as our consciousness here is concerned, we project to infinity in that direction. We could cut just as many of us off of this three-dimensional figure as we cared to and we still wouldn't have changed a thing. When we reach the point that we call death, when this body ceases to exist, people say, well, this is the end because this is all we are conscious of here.

Actually, the part of our body which continues in the other dimension

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is exactly the same as it was before. It's being a change. They think, well, when a person dies something comes out of this body and changes or something and goes on. Actually, the part that exists in this other dimension doesn't change at all. It hasn't lost a thing merely because this point has gone off the line or this line has gone off the plane or this plane has gone off the solid or this solid has gone off the four dimensions are still an infinite number left. This existence could continue now if we want to move this line but we are conscious of only points. When we cut this point off we say it's gone. There is nothing left there. We can't see that this line still exists unless we move this line back into this point of our consciousness. If our consciousness is focused on only a single point we could only see one point of that line at a time. If we destroyed this point we would have to move the line until another point came into view. If we were conscious

of two dimensions and we took the plane off there would be nothing left. We would have to move this solid figure back to a plane of consciousness so we could conceive it. If we are conscious of three dimensions and this figure actually extends into four dimensions when we take this three dimensions off we say it ceased to exist. We can no longer see it. We have to again move this fourth dimensional figure so that one point of it again comes into our point of consciousness so that if we have a projection in a fourth dimension we can continue to move that into our field of consciousness as often as we please. And we could still remove one. We still have just as many left as we had before. We could create at any point in space and at any point in time a part of that existence which is just as solid and just as real as any other part ever had been. It isn't a question of decomposing a body here and composing it somewhere else. It's merely a question of bringing

our consciousness here on it so that we can see that it is there. I perhaps started a subject that would you say is a lecture in itself. It's always difficult to get into these things because there isn't any end to it. It requires hours. But I just thought that this ought to be pointed out. It makes it a little bit easier to understand. If we limit our consciousness to three dimensions and we say, well, those three dimensions are gone, that body is ceased, how can any other, how can this body be here and be somewhere else at the same time? Well, actually, as far as our consciousness here is concerned, that body is infinite. It is everywhere at the same time. The only question is whether anyone can be conscious of it at that point. Even that the other people can see it? Yes. In your regular body form, even though your body isn't actually there, can you talk to them back and forth? You would be there just exactly as much as this line, this geometric line,

extends to infinity in both directions. It is here just as much as it is here. If your consciousness is only able to perceive a point, you can only perceive it here. But if you could move your consciousness over here, you would perceive that it is also over here. You would still see it as a point because you can only perceive a point. But this extends to infinity. You are seeing it right now here. So you say, well, all I can see is a point. All that exists is a point here. But one thing that we don't understand is that this is not a point. It is a line that exists here, here, If we remove our consciousness to here, we perceive that it also exists here. And it is just as real and just as factual here. It is still a point because we can only conceive a point. We are only conscious of a point. So we see it as a point here. We see it as an individual and we see it as a

point here. We are not just a point of the Earth. The vast vast

line at a time. We'd say, well, that is all it is. It has to be either here or here. It can't be both places at once. Because he can't conceive of the fact that there is an infinite number of points in that line. He can only see one of them at a time. Well, it's something that you can't get all at once. It has to percolate. But when it's pointed out this way, tomorrow, the next day, the next day, maybe you'll say all at once, well, now I see it. Now I can see that. Well, now, suppose you're in one place, and you think of something you wanted to do in another place, for instance, and you're consciously thinking, well, I should have got that or I should have did that at this certain place. And you're thinking of being there and doing it. Then would your body be there? I think you might ask my wife about that. She might have something to say. She might have something to say about that. She had this experience just a week or two ago.

All right, Alma. I think you've heard about it. One morning... Mother, could you step over here for the microphone, please? One morning he left for work at about 7.30, and he and Joan went to work and school about

7.30. And about 10 minutes to 8... And about 10 minutes to 8, and I went in to go in the bedroom and call Julene to get up for school. So I looked at the clock, and the clock said 10 minutes to 8, and I went in to call Julene for school, and I heard a sound, and I turned around, and Dan walked into the bedroom, and he didn't have his shirt on. And I said, Dan, I said, you're going to be late for work. And he said, I said, haven't you gone yet? He said, yes, I went, but I came back for my shirt. And I said to him, I said, well, you must have left. Isn't that bad? You have to go to the bathroom when you shave. So he said, oh, that's right. And he walked out of the bedroom and went into the bathroom to get his shirt. And I called Julene, and I came back, and I said, Dan, hurry up. You're going to be late for work. Because he had to be there at 8 o'clock. And he didn't answer me. So then I went to the bathroom door and opened it, and he wasn't in there, and the shirt

was hanging over the shower there where I told him it was. And I couldn't explain. I went quick, and I looked out the door, and the car wasn't there. And I thought, well... So I saw him, and I talked to him, and he told me he came for his shirt. So then he came home at noon. I said, Dan, did you come home after you went to work this morning? He said, no, I didn't. I said, are you sure that you didn't? And he said, no, I almost did. And I said, what do you mean you almost did? And he said, well, I went down to the bookshop, and I was going to call someone up. And... About an engagement he had, and to say yes, he would, or he couldn't speak. And he said, I reached into my pocket, and I said, oh, I forgot my shirt at home. I've got on the wrong... And I couldn't find the number, and I looked at my shirt, and I said, I've got on the wrong shirt. I'll have to go home and get the shirt. And so I started out to come home and get the shirt, and as he got to the door, he looked,

and it was ten minutes to eight. And he said, well, I haven't got time to get it. I'll have to wait and get it at noon. Well, did you see yourself home consciously getting that in your mind? Oh, yes. Anyone... And I saw him, and he talked. I knew that it was at home, and I knew that I would have to go at home. And as he said, he was going to come home and get the shirt, and I said, what did you come home for? And he says, I came home for my shirt. But when you... This is the point I'm making, that you exist, actually. You exist everywhere, and you will be visible anywhere that your consciousness is focused, provided that it's focused with sufficient strength. At that point, whether or not you can be perceived depends on the perception of the other person and the strength of your consciousness in being them. But you can exist at any time, at any point. It all has to do with the rate of vibration of where the two meet.

Actually... I said what I meant a while ago when I said that is being done now, projecting. We project... Mentally, we project our bodies. We project our thoughts. And we... We can understand they're being called or criticized or complimented or anything that's done. Because when you begin to realize the power of your mentality, you will realize that you can project that mentality to any place, any body, at any time, in such a manner that

that person can actually... If they are receptive-minded, they can actually grasp the thought that you are projecting to them,

regardless of what that thought might be. And they will see you with their inner eye just as perfectly as we see each other here.

We experience that many times, but we don't recognize that we are using a power that is more or less...

And we don't recognize its potential. Well, if we did, why, we wouldn't have as much use for the telephone or the telegraph or many other things that we use today.

Eventually, we will just go and forget it. See, I... You weren't thinking of being home and getting this shirt. I was home. You were at work. I was... Well, I was... I was... I was also at work, yes. But the... The mind. What you call... What you call the physical body was also there. Because I couldn't... I needed to be there in the physical body. I didn't need to be there only in the mind. Do you remember talking to your wife and seeing your wife and everything? I know that... That I had to... I had to be there at that particular point. My consciousness was there. Which means that the... The... What we call the material of the body was there also. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean that it would be perceived. I don't mean that I moved my... The physical material of my body from here to there. What I'm trying to make is it was always there. It's only a question of whether or not something is physical. What we call a physical body is only a question of perception.

If I see you there, you are there. If I see you over here and can touch you and feel you and... And can see things accomplished by you over there, you are over there. And the fact that you may be here and there at the same time is... Is the thing that is difficult for... Persons to grasp at first... At first attempt. It isn't after you've considered the matter a little bit. But when we get down to what the position... We think that in metaphysics sometimes we think we're getting into a position that's difficult to conceive or difficult for the mind to accept. You have no idea how difficult the position of the orthodox physicist is today in connection with what we call matter. The orthodox physicist of today, when he describes matter... He can only say that matter exists... A neutron or a proton or an atom exists at the point where a frequency of a certain...

An energy of a certain frequency intersects at right angles the energy of another frequency. That is matter. And that happens when these two waves intersect. At that point, at right angles, matter exists at that point. That is all that physicists today can say. The best books on physics today only say that. They say that matter is created where vibrations of the proper frequency intersect. That's the proper angle. That matter is created. That is matter. That's all that they can say that matter is. If a man sees you and everything, do they have to be attuned to certain... To your vibrations? Well, they probably would be, yes. I don't mean that anyone can see anyone else anywhere. They could. They could, provided that they were. Provided that they were. If they were attuned to those vibrations, they could see anyone anywhere. Positioned in space, under those circumstances, your position in space loses all significance.

The adept in Tibet who wants to come over here in the United States and see what's going on actually does come. You can say, well, he projects his etheric body. What is the etheric body? The etheric body is only that portion of his existence which exists on this energy plane and is everywhere. It exists on this energy plane. It has an infinite extension as far as space is concerned. Just as a line contains an infinite number of dots, this fourth-dimensional character contains an infinite number of third-dimensional figures.

It is present everywhere. So that when this adept goes, he can say, well, I'm in the etheric body, I'm in the physical body. There is no difference. This particular physical point which we can perceive here is only one of an infinite number of points that exist. Isn't that more or less knowing how to break the fourth dimension? Well, it isn't a question of breaking it. It's only a question of perceiving it. That's where you're going from here. You're a third-dimensional body here in this earth. You're second-dimensional in the spirit. We're working up toward the perception of this other dimension. When we perceive it, we now just get flashes. There are just flashes where we can perceive it. Just as Ellen was saying before, she could perceive that I was there. Someone else might not have perceived it. It wouldn't have meant that I was any the less there. In fact, someone else might not have perceived it. It wouldn't mean that I was any the less there.

Oh, you wouldn't be seeing somebody else another time. Yeah, it's too bad to put too bad Drew Liner's side here because I was visiting him the other night, too. Yeah, he did the same thing. And Mrs. Drew Liner, who's blind, said she woke up in the middle of the night and heard him come in. And she heard someone come in and she said, is somebody there? He said, yes. And she thought, well, that's Dan's voice. She said, is that Dan? And they said, yes, it is. So, I'll tell you, Dan, you know me, I got to know. You're going to see me. You're going to see me. I'm not with you. Well, I can visit you. You have to be able to see me. Yeah, I can visit you any time. I can't guarantee that you'll be able to perceive me. You have to be aware. We've been so used in this world to looking at an alarm clock, to measuring mileage. When we're a member of this whole cosmic system, that we can be anywhere. And we've got ourselves so attached to a physical body, we're scared to actually leave it.

And many times in dreams at night, we hover very close to the body because we're afraid we're going to lose it. We don't have that faith that you can't break a silver cord no matter where you go. If it's to Venus on a trip, you can always find your way back. You follow that silver cord right back to your own self. And there's many experiences of people that come back in this etheric body of themselves. That actually when they get down, if they're laying in a bed or something else, they fit their arms and their legs and everything right into it again. So that which motivates you isn't the you that we're looking at. It's the you that always has been, that's walked in here. And taken these elements which compose your body and making it function for this life the way the real you wants it to function.

And when that wears out, you say, I'm through with that, I'm going on. That's the real you. That's the you that we should be talking about. That's where we fell off the boat. That's why we're in such a mess.

Well, actually you have three parts to your head. The only part we're using is practically this part here. Back here is your subconscious. This is your conscious. That's where the five senses really are. Back here is your subconscious, which is the... This is the record of every life you have ever lived, is right here, the magnetic record. There's a straight line from here straight back to here. Now, if you come halfway back through that line, you'll have a line that's going straight up right through the top of your head. That's the etheric. Now, the whole thing that we're all trying to do, you're a male in this life, so am I. If we can conceive and can approach the feminine standpoint of the way they look at things, the way they grasp things, the way that we look at things, and can bike through here to the middle, we'll see that shaft out through the top, which was the shaft in the pyramid, too, or the triad.

And the minute that we balance ourselves here on this little teeter-totter, we don't move at all, we're centered. And we can grasp or tune in. Our antennae is clear up through the ethers. We can be anywhere. And it's all right here, but we have thought so much in the last 2,000 years that these five senses, our here in the conscious mind, we forgot all about the subconscious, and every word that you have ever read is recorded here. If you can get that doorway open between here and here, and use that which is you, you're going to be terrific because it's there and it is you. I got that Duran, the Cajun record. It's getting a little late. I think maybe we'd better chop this off. Yeah, we have our drawings for the... Everybody get the... And while we're doing this, I'd like to announce a meeting next week. And I think we'll ask... And he is the fellow who will give us information with reference to the inner part of the earth.

He has done a lot of study and work along that line, and it will be entirely different from anything probably that you've heard so far, but it will be most interesting because it will be so entirely new. And I'm sure that you'll all enjoy hearing Mr. Dieter. Dieter. Yeah. I don't know how I happened to be there. I had the same clothes on or something. And I think that I'll end this by reading this little poem, and then let's have a nice little discussion on some of the things in this vein that we're interested in because we can sort of put down our hair, so to speak. We all know each other. And let's really talk about it on some questions and answers afterwards. But I'd like to read this to you because we've all come here because we've been interested in spaceships and saucers. That's what's pulled us all together. You know, I haven't talked about that too much because I leave that for the Dan Friars and the Angelusis and the rest of them.

And I like to take the next step because I know after people have looked at the outside of this saucer a little bit,

they've got to find out, well, gosh, we're the guys that's got to bring this world on here. Mankind has to do this. They're not going to come in here and say, now you do this. We're given a free will, and we have to be the leaders. And we're not standing up very well to our job. So if I can just leave a little spark in you of a certain kind that's going to make you, or you make yourself, honestly,

go out and just do a little bit more on this, actually you're building up your own destiny because that is what we're meant to do. We have to take the leadership on this. And the reason that possibly that we have to is that we have gone outside of the ordinary masses in our thinking,

and we have found truth, and all of us in this room know that we have found truth. It works. And I can't understand how other people can motivate with that terrible ceiling that they have over them that they can't see it past it.

But nevertheless, that is the story. And, uh... This whole world has to have leadership coming up. And, uh, by golly, we're going that way. The rays are changing that will make us so, and those who do not want to fall into this new age just won't be reborn. But I'd like to read this, and then we'll have a few questions and answers. I thought this was sort of good. We all ride a spaceship, yes, you and I, as it rushes along, through the great, high, open sky. Yes, we ride on this earth ship, dear boys and girls. We don't know how come, but we realize it whirls. What's that, you ask, friend? What makes it speed? I like to think that it is man's cosmic need.

[01:50:00] Daniel Fry questions and closing discussion

You'll get it one day. When the star course is run, when you hear God commend it, well, course, earth, well, done. You're first.

She wants to know what has caused the controversy, isn't it,

about, uh, the book, The Third Eye and its author. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Uh, I do not know the answer because, uh, I wasn't there. But I do say this about the book. I read it. I sold a few of them. The subject matter in that book is very good. And whether the person really went there or really came there as a llama,

it doesn't make too much difference. Because there's too many parts of that book stacked up to be true. And you can get a wonderful education by reading The Third Eye. Now, I do know this. Whether the name happens to be Ima Sumac, that they tried to reverse the letters backwards and say that she was born in Brooklyn. And you know the controversy that happened on her. That she didn't come from Peru. Uh, when, uh, she was quite popular singing over the country here. Terrific voice. But did you see the little piece in the paper just a few months ago that she received United States citizenship? And it was a Peruvian. It was a Peruvian citizenship. But all this big controversy that half the people in this country believed that she was a Brooklyn girl by proof had spelled her name backwards and it ended up Ima Sumac. And that was her. Now, I'm hoping that the author of The Third Eye, that's the way that ends up, too.

But I don't know. You showed it to me, but I didn't read it all the last time that I was down here, I believe.

Well, that's what I say.

There's too much stacks up in that book as being true. How many of you people saw the, uh, television movie that Lowell Thomas put on several weeks ago about Tibet? Well, now, there wasn't anything in that book nor the movie that one didn't stack up with the other, even to the big guards and everything else. Now, how would somebody have known that? Because I don't think Lowell Thomas's, that movie has been shown in England, and, uh, that book would have had to have been written at least, uh, if I know how books are written, two or three years ago. And I don't think it would have been possible for one to have gotten it from the other or anyone else because, uh, I believe that Lowell Thomas was the first one that, uh, did anything in the movement picture venture like that in Tibet. At least they said there were certain parts that had never been done before. So, uh, there's been too much given in The Third Eye,

about, uh, herbs, uh, underground, uh, records long before Noah's flood, uh, many things, uh, on the inside of temple work that you would not know unless you had not been there. Now, I'm not saying it is not possible for whoever the author was to have not gone there in a spiritual or astral state or even a fourth dimensional and received that information. That's possible. So I don't, uh, rule it out because I don't know. But it's a good book. And I think a work should stand on the merit of the work and not the individual. Now, almost every great

Walsh, everything else of the greats that have written them, the Strausses, the Mendelssohns, and so forth, the Wachmers, their, uh, own lives. Have you read them? Well, some of them, some of them have some pretty bad affairs and entanglements and everything all their life. But you see, the music has stood on its own, hasn't it? And the world has got a terrific enjoyment out of it. So that's really what counts. I don't know where I answered your question very good, but... Well, that's right.

That's my belief, too. Now, Lee, did you have a question? Somebody had their hand up there. Come on, folks. Uh, let's just ask anything. I don't care how seemingly ridiculous it may be. What was that? Lee, only you would ask a question like that. No, I think it's going to rain next Tuesday because I have a lecture down at Long Beach. The last four lectures I've given, it has rained just like it has tonight, so I'm getting used to it. This is the largest crowd, honestly, I've had in those four lectures. Well, I won't say that either. I had about the same size now at Long Beach last time. Do you have a question? I might take it from a little different vein.

He had been told on a place that he'd go,

a place that he goes that is of mutual interest to me, too, that this person had said that the cosmic energy factor would be at its height or highest in 1961. Is that right, Al? Yeah. 1961. And I told Al that I didn't doubt it because in the earlier writings and so forth that I have at home, there is a good basis for a reason on that, a good reason for it. Because our upper umbrella that we have around this Earth, we're pin-holing it so fast that we're leaving more cosmic energy in all the time. The atomic experiments are helping, and there's a lot of things that are helping. We're going into a different ray system on the Earth. We're coming into a cleansing system to come into an Aquarian age. It's meant to be. And it's going to be a period in the Earth when there's going to be truly a lot of sickness, at least in the masses, of diseases that the doctor will not know what to do about it. And if the date is right,

which I don't know which date it would be, Al, if the date 1961 is right, it sounds pretty good. It's hitting about the right time. I don't like to quote dates too much because I think in the other side, dates are not so important because it's the vortexes of events, and they don't go by an alarm clock like we do. And there's been so many times that dates have been given on our calendar that did not materialize because we in the Earth want a date in an hour for that date. It's a sequence of events that has to take place. It goes down the line, and this certain thing will happen from a cause. But they see the cause. They see the thought, the cause. They know what the effect is going to be, but they don't know how fast this train is going to run to that effect, who might come in and stop it for the moment, and then it goes on its way again. They know that the answer is there, but they don't know exactly when a lot of times,

because all of these things have to vortex together. But I would say that there is coming a time when the cosmic energy factor will be more important to look at than the atomic end of it. Very well, that's right.

That reminds me of another word that seems so strange too, the word Jerusalem. Have you ever noticed that the keystone in the word Jerusalem right in the exact center has nine letters, U-S-A? Have you ever noticed that in the word Jerusalem? That's an odd one too. There surely is some more questions. Doris, can I answer a question for you in the last three years? I know there isn't anything that I could possibly answer for you, but I thought, well, I'm very sorry tonight

that I didn't stick to my subject of cosmic hunger, but it's something that has been in the back of my mind, must have been my whole life. And I've toyed around for years, should I say something about it or shouldn't I? And you have to dim it down, which I did very much, or I possibly would not land some of the right places, but nevertheless I've seen it as truth all through my life. And it's a subject that I put a title on, Cosmic Energy, because there was something that wanted to be put on the card as a subject, and it did. Thank you. It did reflect itself back very much to the two names on it. But I would like to give that to a little larger audience if I could, and I don't think you people mind, do you? Did we talk about some things tonight that we couldn't have done that, you know, in a large audience, we wouldn't have dared, would we? If I would have said reincarnation, monkeys, apes, we came here, catastrophe,

why, I would be some kind of a communist down here in El Monte by 11 o'clock, and that's already happened to me. One lecture I gave before this group several years ago, I talked on nutrition once, and it was almost by the book. I was very careful. And I know that there were several people there who thought I was a little bit communistically minded. Of course, they didn't know what the truth was, the true word, communism, or what communism meant, or they wouldn't have said it. But it seems, though, that isn't it a shame that we haven't got out of our system that the king can do no wrong. That if pure food and drugs says it's all right, it's all right. If Truman or Eisenhower says it's all right, it's all right. If the Pentagon says there's no saucers, there is no saucers. You see how the masses have gone on their thinking? It's gone the whole way down through the line, and we haven't got that out of our system yet.

And we have the right, with a little study and a little carefulness, to say what we think is true and stand on that. We have that right, and it's about time we all take it. We've got more power than we think we have. This has been too long a deal for 2,000 years, and much, much longer, because the same forces who are against this thing in our period have been against it 2,000 years ago, 4,000 years ago, 6,000 years ago, clear back through. And it's because they are not ready to go the same speed as we're going, and they're going to do