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Orfeo Angelucci

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• [00:00] Opening remarks and framing
• [04:20] Orfeo Angelucci’s prepared address
• [19:40] Experiences with space visitors
• [37:00] Spiritual interpretation of the saucer phenomenon
• [56:00] Audience questions: experiences, belief, and evidence
• [01:18:00] Audience questions and closing discussion

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[00:00] Opening remarks and framing

I believe most of you friends in here know of my experiences.

I think you'll have a little question and answer period after the main speech or talk.

So we can ask whatever questions we want. Anything that isn't clear in the way of my own experiences. I'd be glad to talk about most any other aspect of this subject. Bring anything up if we can't answer it why we just so we don't know anything about it. Now I have had definite experiences with space visitors. I know that my own editor has branded them as psychic. That is, they've arisen from the mind or from my own thoughts. Nevertheless, they were real. Yet, he doesn't want to accept himself. The very fact that they were very real. That is, if I say I stepped in the flying saucer, I mean I've walked in it. And I went out in space, hovered over the city of Los Angeles for 1,000 miles just as I would in an airplane. Other experiences which came a little later on after I had absorbed and digested the first phase of my experiences

in which I spent seven days on another planet. And yet I never left the Earth. Now I was introduced to an experience which I myself didn't understand. And yet it was given in such a way that I was able to understand even that in time. And even in the book, Secret of the Saucers, which I authored, the entire explanation was not brought out there because I didn't know at the time. Or maybe it wasn't supposed to be in the book. But that's the way space visitors work. I know many of us waited the other night to see if they would hover around Los Angeles. And I myself kept my fingers crossed. I had no faith in the fact that they would appear at all because I wasn't told directly.

Neither were you people. The subject itself is of vital interest, indeed. And those who have a real faith in the fact that we do have space visitors who are nothing more than elevated brothers from all over the universe. The fact that they didn't show up Wednesday night or any other time when somebody is expecting them doesn't phase your faith at all. It's just like if you have a friend who's been a friend all your life and he said, I will meet you at such and such a place at eight o'clock tonight. And you wait then. If he doesn't show up, he doesn't become your enemy the very minute. Eight o'clock sharp because he didn't show up. You wait. He may not show up that night at all. But he will have an explanation. A reason. That is if he's been in a lifelong friend and you have faith. And you forget all about that point. Go on to new ones and you will not disappoint again. Just the same way with space visitors, believe me.

And I was called on Tuesday afternoon, very late, five o'clock in the evening by the station. If I would appear to explain why they might not appear, it's an awful job for somebody who didn't probably have a program. The only way that I would handle it, because I had a suspicion they would not appear

and I had my own reasons. Yet, when I did appear on the program with Tom Dovian, they never asked me once why they didn't appear. Everything but that. Just for the second time. Next time I go on a television program, believe me, I want to know in advance.

Be disappointing my friends and I know you friends here don't disappoint me.

[04:20] Orfeo Angelucci’s prepared address

Now with my experience in space visitors, the best part of my experience was a growing within me. Or let's say an awakening. A realization of what was happening. There were times when I thought maybe it was my mind going astray or getting weak or something. The feelings and the unfoldings that I had, I would tell no one. Certainly I could find it nowhere. I saw a mutual understanding in the writings of Shakespeare. Shakespeare wrote the things of this earth. I started with the character of Abraham Lincoln, but Abraham Lincoln was in a way a politician and yet a statesman, of course. And I know that through history, many people have had illuminations, enlightenments, and moments of what you might call total understanding. At times those moments are only temporary. They're fleeting. It is now and then no more. And yet you remember the illumination. You understand everything. It is as though you understand the very behavior of molecules and of atoms

and of why the trees are different from each other, why they're different from grass, why the world is different from the moon. All that comes into one understanding. I had prepared a talk. I don't know if any of you have heard it before. I found it to be to those who have faith in space visitors

and if you don't mind, I will read it because it was written under inspiration. It was written in one sitting in the typewriter and it was written entirely by myself. So it's just as though I was speaking personally. So I will get it now. Thank you. Just about a month and a half ago, I came back from a tour up in San Francisco, Sacramento, Santa Cruz, and San Jose. And in most of the places where I had spoken before, I did this very same talk. The other places where I had not spoken before, I told them of my experiences. As I said, none of you will be left asking of my experiences because we did explain them in the question and answer period. Some of you may pick up the little paper here. As I know, this is quite a bit of writing anyhow, and I mentioned about half of them are flying saucers. So we're not missing anything. I don't tell you all of my experiences. I couldn't tell you all of them in three days. And this is the talk.

I've gone with such a good response in Sacramento, in Oakland, and all these cities that I mentioned to you before. In fact, Northern California is a little more conservative than Los Angeles. And yet, everyone today is following Los Angeles. When I say Los Angeles, I mean, of course, Southern California. Who knows the brands of Los Angeles? The boys in Germany used to put them up all the city limits. Greetings. Welcome into the spirit of the geophysical year, the space satellite age, and the entire new awareness which many have entered. As eternal as truth is the cosmic splendor. More eternal than all things we know. Perhaps the only real eternity is truth. I mean by that, truth in every way, whatever truth is. It always was and always will be. We are seeking it. It has no beginning and no end. When we think of God, our concepts always fail us, for we limit God by the limit of our concept. But if we think that the truth is, it cannot be moved,

and that whatever is the truth also is God. We taste a small bit of that truly rapturous, divine sense, the cosmic splendor. It cannot be bought nor given to you by others. It is you, your divine attachment to the center-force of all creation. And it is merely truth becoming part of you for seeking it. It was always there, always will be. The only untruth exists in the limitation and quality of our senses and our inclinations. From the day we were born to the day we shed our bodies, the most natural instinct of man is the seeking of that sublime cosmic splendor. But man is limited even at his present best. He can attain only several limitations of it. He seeks it by excitement, by sensual means, and by religious meanings. Some people are so limited in the broadness of concept that they feel that real happiness is meant in man-made things and situations, such as money, sports, and all they can experience for their own ego and their own senses.

True, all things make up the world, and by seeking, discovering, and improving the essential things, we gradually count only upon the truth. But most things, nearly everything material we know so far, are temporal, true and better things than spiritual concepts we know so far.

They are altered along the way. It is not material that perishes, but man's interpretation and use of material. It is not the truth of religion that perishes, but man's interpretation of it. To seek the truth will find themselves on the streams of truth, all the way into the sea of truth. One is immediately bound to reach the shores of that sea and stand before the cosmic splendor. The technology lacks at such a time, the universe will give him fullness. Only when our evolution is perfected as can we enter it can we enter it to be in the company of the Godhead and his hosts. Indeed, it is godful that even the Earth's space visitors are always in that cosmic splendor. What we know in this show is certain. The Earth has had space visitors for ages is that our greatest recorded literature often mentions them. They have been called such as angels, guardians, masters, and by many other names, they have manifested themselves always in ways that were understandable

to the people of the times involved. They never interfered with our divine evolution, which is simply the finding of the truth by our own initiative. Angels were pictured with wings. Today we know that wings cannot serve anyone if you're not in our upper atmosphere. Out in space, they are. To know that would mean to become that and to be nearly omnipotent.

Man believes that the truth is that which he can understand and interpret. He rebels at any other concept which is brought to his attention even for some time after he recognizes the truth and his error. New discoveries, theories, social improvements, and all revelations have had to mean terrible resistance, but the truth unfolded just the same. It is clear indeed to paraphrase an action, one and the truth constitutes a majority. And that is the fact. In fact, the truth alone, ladies and gentlemen, would constitute a majority. Nothing in history, that is nothing true and substantial, has faced more opposition and resistance than the advent of space visitors upon the consciousness of man. But that resistance has been more than thin. Today the subject is not faced with the ridicule and hostility that it was two years ago. In my own experiences, I now feel that I am in a cause which provides many brothers and sisters.

What a longing that this was not very long ago. And I feel sure many of you share this experience. The question is often asked, when did flying saucers first come to observe Earth? But to my consciousness, in this lifetime, they came on May 23rd, 1952. That was only my first awareness, however, of their real existence. It had been carrying the torch since June 1947, when Kenneth Donald reported his sighting.

Many believed that was the day of the first appearance. Yet armed forces personnel reported such things as foo fighters and strange lights in the last years of World War II. Even before this, the movement of the I.N. religion, sparked by the book's unveiled mysteries and the magic presence, both by the founder of the I.N., contained factual enlightenment that will serve tremendously in attuning us to the unfoldment in regard to inhabitants of the universe. Even in these, which emerged in the early 1930s, the book A Dweller on Two Planets was sufficient for the light. This was published about 1860, long before the scientific data contained in this book was even theorized or suspected by the bulk of mankind, or any scientific body. In fact, modern science has not even begun to understand it. Of course, we could found manifestations of space visitors through all the scriptures that underlie our civilization.

The Hindu religion stems from them. The Old Testament speaks of little else other than space visitors. And the New Testament, that is the New Age of the Christ, is self-evident. From beginning to end, the story of the Nazarene gives vivid evidence of the wondrous emergence of space visitors. Brothers and sisters, we are in the geophysical year. It begins officially January 1, 1957. This is the space satellite eternity. When we attempt to send a space satellite in the space of our Earth, it won't be for a month or two, it's forever. We are in the atomic age, and we are in the age of the truth and greatest spiritual truth awaiting in all our past history. You who hear this, who read this, are on the threshold of cosmic awareness. One more step, and you stand on the shores of the cosmic splendor. Great question is before us, and that is, these space visitors have been here for ages untold, and much like the truth was given by scripture,

and such books and beings as mentioned herein, why is the revelation given us so many times and by so many bearers? That is truly a question. If we possess cosmic awareness, some cosmic awareness, the answer unfolds before us. The panorama of history tells its own story. For have we not had all things before? If Abraham was, then why was it necessary for David to be? One truth, and one mind should be sufficient to reveal it.

And no man knows all the truth. We learn it by gradual and slow evolution. Even God does not interfere with it. Certainly space visitors were not there. We might ask the same in the science of electricity. If Franklin discovered it in lightning, or strong winds, and after the first one. Again, the answer is self-evident. None of them possess the simple truth. Woman and child is equal and divine. We all give and take something for the whole, which we will find to be truly a oneness. Now one person knows all the truth, or all that, and yet it is one thing, very simple. In my own experiences with space visitors, what did I add to the cause? Why does such a limited person as myself have such a magnificent, or such magnificent experiences? The only answer I had is my coming upon the theory, the nature of infinite entities. This undermines with substance what others could only allude to, or be genuinely conscious of.

It proves that what the other messengers, in their books or talks gave forth, is founded upon the very dynamic of the universe, which underlies all things we know. Many of you know my experiences, which are real, very real, and very much material, and subsequently backed up by manifestations in the skies, which would take two or three hours to read, let alone tell them,

and the book in itself, and we'll change some of them in the next period. The experiences have to be followed by manifestations by space visitors.

For I was too much of the conservative, the unbeliever, the know-it-all, to believe even my own experiences at the time they occurred. On May 23, 1952, I was contacted by them by means of guided objects, which spoke to me, and to which I spoke. These proved to be only relay objects, much like a two-way television set. On January 23, 1952, or two months after the first experience, I was taken for a ride in one of their small crafts, about 1,000 miles above Los Angeles, and this distance reached me in less than four minutes. There, I saw the Earth. On the 2nd of 1952, I met personally the being behind the voice, which spoke to me in the previous context just mentioned. In due time, I began to doubt the experiences, but they seemed to know beforehand that this would happen, that is, that I would doubt it. So they gave me just enough time to gather my Earth senses again and then perform substantiating papers in disguise for me.

Finally, I believed and began to understand some of their benign pendants, and that meant a new phase was reached and new experiences given to me. Somehow, I spent seven days in one of their mother crafts, approximately 10 miles in diameter, the craft itself, made of some transparent,

[19:40] Experiences with space visitors

crystal-plastic substance, and was like a little world of its own, with trees, grass, flowers, and buildings of the same substance as the ship was made of. At only these seven days, my physical body had never left here. In fact, this experience did not come into my memory for awareness until six months after it happened. It was the first time I had to explain away to myself something unfamiliar to my understanding. By the time it came, there are many ways in which this experience could be given to one by beings who are vastly greater advanced than me. In due time, we at this Earth shall come upon all these things. I can explain three of those ways. We can treat again in the next period. It's very understandable. Most of you almost know all the three ways. Even I cannot understand the entire reality of them. They came to me because I also was a seeker. My seeking was in the fundamental sciences. My faith was an unbounding awareness

of a supreme, intelligent power. It must be remembered that when a scientist comes upon a discovery, whether it is a solution to a disease or the discovery of a heavenly body, or a new physical law found, it is accompanied by an inexpressible ecstasy. The universe seems then to stand still and smile and sing to that one. The same applies to all those making entry into spiritual empowerment. Many people have experienced entry into such a splendor by both parents, that is scientific and spiritual. Marie Curie, for instance, and Pierre Curie. The fundamental scientist is endowed by no less than a taste of cosmic awareness. Every spiritual luminary is endowed with understandings surpassing even the scientist. Yet, no one has ever been able to fully use the enlightenment, be it in the material or the spiritual. It is up to others to add what is left lacking. My first experience with a taste of cosmic awareness was in December 1945.

For no reason apparent to me, I took off from home in Trenton, New Jersey, to vacation for four days in Lakewood, New Jersey, a winter resort only 30 miles from Trenton, which is my home. It was snowing fairly heavily. Halfway to Lakewood, the car seemed to take millions of its own. I felt in communion with every human being on Earth while I was driving alone. The car seemed another road better than my hands to guide it. There was a cosmic presence all around me. I fell into silence, and even the motor seemed to just purr like a kitten. This is how I changed my life somewhat, and the sense never fully left me. But this was a mere preliminary of what was... At 3 o'clock in the morning, I arose to eat a sandwich with some spark in me in jail, sometime in the early spring of 1948. This was well over three years later, after the first experience. My head ached from nervous tension. My mind was racing with perturbed questions

as to the nature of matter, the atom, and all of Egypt. It was 3 o'clock in the morning. I knew I'd get up from bed. I was trying to write something on the virus, the very nature of the nucleus of the virus. Instead, the very nucleus and nature of the atom came. I lifted the glass of ginger ale to my eyes to lose myself in its liquid interior while I marched the sandwich. The bubbles rose endlessly from the bottom of the glass to the top. Why was the fundamental nature of the atom so mysterious to us when its true being is so simple? After all, the atoms are no more than mere bubbles in the ether. I set the glass down and pondered as I marched the sandwich. Then I lifted again the glass to my eyes until I could see only the ginger ale and the bubbles. Then it struck. Atoms were mere bubbles in the ether. Matter does not really exist at all. There was a simple answer all along. When I lifted the glass before my eyes

seemed to become infinite like the universe, I could hear the music of the spheres. The kitchen I sat in no longer existed. All of the cosmos stood still for a moment and millions of superb beings seemed to be smiling upon me. For some moments, I had a feeling that this concept might be. It was a feeling that this concept was the nature of the universe. And in the course of only several minutes, while I must have sat motionless engulfed in the glass of that ginger ale with its rising bubbles, an entire theory was born. Complex manifestations of all matter paraded dutifully and orderly before my eyes. And truly angelic presences were all around by untold numbers. Now understand, I didn't see anyone. I didn't see anything. I didn't hear anything visually. But it was all an inner feeling. Yet they were there. Had anyone mentioned to me the reality of these feelings, I would have laughed at them at that time. As you can well understand.

Of course, from my subsequent experience, as you know, today, I have grown now far beyond that. The superb sense of how earthly and light invented by the universe will pass for a moment and sing the music of the spheres when the humblest one of us comes upon a true thing. A spiritual truth is acknowledged throughout the cosmos in the same manner. And this, what I was speaking, is a scientific truth. Is this not what the great teacher, one of our heavenly hosts, meant when he said that among all the prophets there were none greater than John? That the least one of us who came upon the Holy Spirit or the least one in heaven was greater than John? That is cosmic splendor. Before we come to our question on superior, let us remember some highlights in the pageantry of the modern behaviors of space visitors. Let us keep in mind that no one can escape their observance and vigilance. And that when they want someone to act on their behalf,

there is nothing we can do to stop it. A Dr. Donald Mendel, the head of the Harvard Astronomy Department, can well attest to this. He wrote the book and gave the lectures which silenced the press of the United States, but which made the Air Force see red. In his wonderful book that tries to discount flying saucers as merely natural mirages and optical illusions and hallucinations, we can see that a practical scientist applied himself for several precious years to talk about something that he said was all silly and to write a book on it. The space visitors left their very footprints, and with the footprints they also left a bit of evidence of the ecstasy of discovery and the cosmic splendor which can penetrate the vitals of even such unemotional men as Dr. Mendel himself. Let us see what we find on vital page three. That's the end of the formal talk here. I know most of you know Dr. Mendel, and he's a nemesis of the flying saucer enthusiast.

You know, once I asked the Los Angeles Times, Murray Dean was a reporter, why did the press suddenly became silent? He said, well, you know, Angelucci, such a ridiculous slang had taken to the whole thing. Now, mind you, such a ridiculous slang had suddenly taken over the flying saucer's picture. Well, what was it up until that time, which was about 1953 or 54? From 1947 to 1953, was that the serious slang? The papers are full of flying ridiculous period. 1947 to 1952, seven years, a cycle. A seven-year cycle never fails, and aren't they? It took a serious turn. Many people had really begun to believe in them. They were afraid it was going to become a religious foundation. Suddenly, the silence. It wasn't Dr. Mendel who silenced the press, or the radio, or the television, or any of the media. It was space visitors. It didn't stop gradually because Dr. Mendel spoke to them, or the book came out. They didn't all read it the same day and become influenced that same day.

This concerns thousands of people. It was all one day, suddenly. And when the news of flying saucers appears, it is also sudden, like anything else. Who stopped the press? Flying saucers, space visitors. The press had continued the silly aspect of reporting flying saucers

and carrying it over into all kinds of ridiculous aspects. The real work would never take hold. You see? The waking up. The few who really got the seeds. Now, Mendel, Dr. Mendel, had ridiculed the whole thing as far as space visitors and these experiences are concerned. But he said that we could have space visitors. That he wouldn't be the last man to say that he wouldn't. That's only the last part of his book. By the way, this is if any of you see anything in the air, report it to me, not when you report it to the Air Force. You know, send us your photos in the fire. We're space visitors. You see? One thing, though, I never even noticed myself for quite a long time. It was page three. Now, Dr. Mendel said that they're not even worth talking about. They're wasting newspaper space about. Because it only works toward the benefit of a certain few. That is right. Why did he take two or three years off of this? The most important one is the head of the astrophysics department

of Harvard University. The head of it. He says work is very important. Yet it took three years off to investigate flying saucers and write a book on it. It's been discounted. And, of course, there's one answer today we have on a technical basis. A book called The Truth About Flying Saucers by Amy Michele, a Frenchman. Technical answer by Dr. Mendzel. Now, let's see what the space visitors did to him. You know, they spell-blind us. They prepare us before a contact or before an experience. And actually, we're not aware of the full experience until life is over. Let's see what happened with Dr. Mendzel. Understand, up to this point, when he's investigating flying saucers,

he's going to New Mexico at the same time studying the sun and whatnot. And he's in the process of writing a book. He's not ever seen anything that he could doubt or couldn't understand. In essence, some of it is really comical, ladies and gentlemen, because you have to see a very serious man, one who prides himself on being unemotional, one who is a very great writer, who knows that he knows his astronomy, but he hasn't discovered anything. He's not a fundamentalist. Things of the sun take me frequently to Colorado and New Mexico.

And I was at the Holloman Air Base near Alamogordo, New Mexico, at the height of the Flan Saucer Scare. After the documentary recording here, I'm quoting Dr. Mendzel, page 3. I had glimpsed what seemed to be several saucers moving overhead. Until I focused my eyes more clearly and recognized what objects as whether belongs. That afternoon, I expressed my belief that most of the saucers would be less explained. But others in the group, including several well-known scientists, indicated there was probably more to the saucer story than that. I see the scientists themselves believe we have space visitors. But he was unaware that people live along his side. And this is way back, 1952, beginning the initiative into the meeting of space visitors. Why did he see these weather balloons? He's a rather old man. Did he see weather balloons all his life? Here, they begin to take on a different aspect. You see, he's being prepared,

unconscious of the fact, unaware of it himself. I had my second attack of saucers. I noticed the way he described them, these things. I was in the backseat of a automobile being driven around Alamogordo and admiring the full moon as it rose over Sacramento Peak toward the east. Now we raise a question here. The greatest honor of admiring the full moon. Why? I had long wondered what it was that I actually saw. The simpler and more obvious explanations, like the whispers of clouds, the distant searchlights, did not seem acceptable. But at no time did I have even the slightest suspicion that the objects were of interplanetary origin. I think Harvard University could put this book out, and Dr. Meza would give anything to remove page three. I recently found a reference in an old book by Edward J. Lowe.

I'm quoting him. An English meteorologist who mentioned a similar phenomenon observed as long ago as 1838. Similar, except for the fact that he saw four instead of two ghostly images flying near the moon. Perhaps I should be expected at this point to explain exactly what I saw that evening in New Mexico. I am sorry to say that I cannot explain the phenomenon in every detail, but I do have certain ideas on the subject, which seem to be entirely reasonable, and of course the whole book proceeds with the other ideas. That's all for that. You see what they can do with it. You notice how beautifully they go? No one is aware of what's going on. Menzel himself is in Harvard University, and I, who've been looking for these little pearls left behind in the sick oysters, I failed to see this until almost a year ago. When I read it over again, well, it brought me an ecstasy. I said, what have we here? Menzel Guigny, that rapturous feeling?

It can't be. We used to put the spheres in phase three. It was then to put it in emission time

and also in order to have 5 or 10 in a cell month. Then we can continue. I don't know what the program is. Thank you.

The question that really stumps me. See, you're asking me, what is the end objective of all this? Now, I don't know what you mean by that. You could mean one of two things. What is the end objective of the flying saucers, space visitors, and all that is going on around us, the Earth around the Sun, or do you mean the end objective of the people themselves involved in it?

Yes, but do the children know that? You asked the 5th grader, what's his greatest hope? He says it's a slow brain cell. You see that? Semi-religious angle that is. Not semi. At one time, when I was talking like this before people, there's nothing religious about this. Now it seems to me not semi, but all religion. Believe me, I'm a materialist of the first order. It has done that to me.

It has done that to me. And I believe that many people have experienced that. Now, let me see. In this way, you see, this is infinite. You couldn't treat it all in one night. We can go on right from where you started. That's a very good question. Where to? We don't know. See that picture, pole goddess? That means, where to? We don't know.

[37:00] Spiritual interpretation of the saucer phenomenon

These things of the past have come about. You know, nobody would be reading the Bible if the Bible hadn't said things which have come about. Or, if it hasn't proven a word, a keel, a stabilizer, a compass to our way of life. You don't need the Bible in the house, you can throw it out. Pardon my speaking. That's what I'm saying. I mean, we can throw it out. And yet, where would we be without it? You see? Now, a man has a Bible in his house. He's somebody's size he doesn't want anymore. Nothing is going to stop him from picking it up and throwing it out. To tear it up and burn it. What has he got after that? Nothing. Now, we have all this. As you mentioned, what's the meaning of all this? Forget it. It's all about our big, daily business. What have we got? Nothing. Without this. You see? These things appeared, and I was just talking to a gentleman here who was telling me he's been a great believer in all this and for a long time, for years.

Yet, frankly, he has never seen a flying saucer. And that's a good sign. Because they love you. You don't need it. Just like many women, they don't need flying saucers. I guess that's an old story now. They're always in one. Now, why? Notice that all those sightings that are ever reported are those from people who don't believe, even after they saw it. Aviators. Officials. Those that are considered concrete by the government. Now, the government can't tell you what they are. They only say, well, we see this too, but what can we tell you about it? And that's right. Nobody can. Unless they accept them in their fullness. Now then, without them, where are we going? Notice that we are going in that direction. January 1st begins the geophysical year. 18 months of intensive study of the universe by every nation on Earth. Isn't that nice, brotherly blood being circulated among us? Among the intellectuals. You see? And the people will be hearing the results.

Russia will come through with some finding. America will come through with a finding. England has to report. Australia has this to find. Now, those people that are studying the stars are not thinking of war. You see? There's something real out here, much more real than war. War is a temporal thing. It comes and goes. We didn't need it. We had to go through it. We can take the universe, which is represented right here on Earth. Everything in the universe is representable right here on Earth, and yet we haven't seen it. One substance. This is made of another. My fingers, my hands, still other things. Everything that we can see, if it has a different aspect, is a different substance. And yet, they all come from 92 elements. Imagine that? As long as man wasn't willing to look into the nature of things, the study of nature, the meaning of science means the study of nature. Then, a man saw a tree and all he ever saw was a tree.

He'd make no other effort. If he wasn't interested in any more than that tree, trying and getting something to eat, that's all he would ever have. You see? But the minute he began to investigate and to postulate some things and relate them one another, he said, look, now these things always behave in a certain way. The physical laws. The other people who weren't interested, naturally, we're going to tell them, don't tell that to someone else, they've got enough troubles here getting something to eat. Furthermore, I'm not interested. You see? That's been the history, all through our civilized history, which is very short at best. Five or six thousand years. It's not long recorded history. The history of the world was billions of years. Now, where are we going? Notice the defiance of all those things reported had been by people, unbelievers. Why do they show themselves or why show themselves a great length to believers? Who already believe?

Who are already there? I thought that this was all new to me when I first came into it. Believe me, I did. Some people here can tell you how very primitive I was when I started. With this experience, who am I going to tell? I thought I was to begin with my own people, my own friends. So I did. I gathered them together, sent out a few cards, but fortunately the papers had some names in there who were interested in frying saucers. But not the way I had now become interested. For us, let me get together, us together. And among them were a few young boys who today are still in it. One of them produces a saucer magazine. And of course, I'm talking about Dan Fry here, aren't I? This being who contacted me said you will be alone for a while. You yourself will have to believe this first. You will have to grow up. And until then, you will not even know that there's others who believe you. Because look where you were just a few months ago

on the other side of the fence. So, but, when you do, I smile with love on your enhanced numbers. Enhanced numbers. I didn't know what that meant. Because when I started to speak, I had my own friends there, and there was nothing but laughing. Now believe me. And I loved it. If they would only listen. And they didn't even listen. And among them was my partner in business, in the fore-covering business, Dick Chenoweth, a southerner, right from Tennessee. And his mother, she was at the time about 88 years old, very frail. He decided he couldn't see me. And she sat quite far among the group. It was a hall much larger than this. I happened to be there at the driving theater where my wife was working. And I had it at my command there. Didn't have to pay rent or anything. That's the only place I could drive to. And I know I was telling you when I wrote A Flying Saucer. Imagine telling your friends that. Who up until this moment knew you only as a

fore-coverer and a very down-to-earth man. And then I could see Mr. Chenoweth talking with Dick. You know, she was disturbed with him. I could see Dick quite disturbed. I didn't hear what she was saying, of course, but I could imagine. And when I asked Dick, he says, Oh well, off you go. In his southern drawl. He says, she couldn't see you. You know that. She nearsided. She heard your voice. She said, it sounded like you. But she said, she asked me, she said, I thought I came here to hear Orpheo talk. And Dick said, well, that is Orpheo, Mother. Don't you hear him? Well, it sounds like him, but it doesn't look like him. Oh, Mother, you can't see him. I know, but what he's saying doesn't look like him. He said, Mother, that's him. I don't know. Let's listen to him. He says, my land stays. He says, it needs to be so sensible. So, you see what they had to go through? For what? Why? I didn't know. It all came later. And those people today are

visiting because of my experience. And also they don't. In fact, they had seen myself as young before I did, but they had no need to accept it. And still don't accept them as extra terrestrial visitors. And they will swear, in fact, that they have seen something very unfamiliar to them. We never explained that question. Why? But it's in our own foe. Let's put it this way. For the time being, if you can't see anything in it, I can't think of anything more interesting. You can always have the other things. It's very rare they can hear things of space visitors.

That is true. Now, my position in this, when I hear rumors like this, I feel if this is true, it is in use of such tremendous importance that it cannot stay hidden wrong. If they're in government hands, if they're in captivity with him, it won't be wrong before we know about it. So let's wait until then. It's just like Wednesday night. Everyone waited after the election. Then Friday night. And I don't mean when I say Friday, I don't mean

that bothers me. I mean I hadn't answered something, I had no answer for it. Wait till December 7th. See what happens. I had December 7th. I mean, November 7th. Let's wait till the 8th and see what happens. Well, we waited. I went to that television program because I was asked to go home and put my neck out on something I had nothing to do with. Yet I'm in the subject and I'm just as well take every part of it, whether it's unpleasant or pleasant. For 30 days, every day, never responded. Yet when I was least expecting or when I had diverted my attention to other things, they responded. My messages produced 30 days. I began to see, we know when, when we least expect. We cannot interfere with the ways of life. Another time I tried to give a signal out in the desert. A round thing with stones, hydrogen atom. Universal signal. Or a symbol. There was nothing but clear signs. But three weeks later, right over my house, they reproduced the same thing.

And I knew they were doing it. I was sitting in the kitchen before going to work and I asked Mabel, she was back to me and I said, Mabel, here. Put this thing out. Grabbed it by the hand, went out. She said, no. Suddenly she, she kind of had a smile on her face. She went outside the door right over the house and there was the very same symbol. Too small for any other things to make. Well, I knew. I didn't have to be told. But if anybody else looking on would think that it was our own airplanes doing it because there were vapor trails in the sky. You see how they hide themselves? It's funny that a lot of those airplanes seem to gather around that circle later investigating. It was not airplanes going there. There's a thought in the center and the radiation lines that I put on the very signal out in the desert. The only thing that was strange to me was that they had added four check marks like that on four corners of that

circle. And that was something entirely new to me. But I knew the answer would come in time. I learned those check marks later on, we began to read those references, suddenly they appeared the other way and started making a curve. Something unheard of. Then I began to see the check marks. That's what they did. Not only did they give me my signal back, but they added one. Which I would understand in time.

I did see something. I was disappointed. I wasn't expecting it. That's what I said. I wasn't expecting it. I just look at a thing like that as mere publicity. Even if the space visitors are doing that. I've grown above that. I don't need that anymore. You don't need it. The very fact that you saw a UFO in spite of the fact shows that you're attuned to the real thing. I saw something I'd been in a studio. And in fact, they came on television and they saw me pointing like this. I wasn't trying to point at anything. I didn't know we were on television then. There was. One object came. And it proved that to be an airplane. It was the airplane that Paul Coats and another crowd had said it was. We could fly and see what it would look like. But wait, what was that other object that came to meet it with a red light? One red light. No sound heard and then disappeared. Those who had eyes shall see. And those who had no eyes.

Could I say that on television? They sound crazy. They said, well, we know. You make one. Because it would be your story. You see the general public thinks I just make this up. So I just might as well keep quiet. But I saw it. That's what I was trying to find out. You see? We were human and running after all.

It was sort of a little being-like person. It looked about the size of a star. It just looked like a star with a naked eye. And then we said, oh, look. Look at it go. And from behind it, it looked like the color of a real star. From behind. So I could make out what it was one, one, two, or just one and everything. All that. And I thought, oh, why don't you just miss something? She saw something that looked like it exploded like a light bulb exploding inside her. And she was so excited. I definitely didn't see behind her. Sure. There weren't many manifestations for those who are wise to see. Yes?

An asteroid. In fact, I didn't think it was an asteroid. I just didn't know where I was. But the group had to have some form of reference in it. So the editor and the writer with me thought, you've got to play something in here because people figure you, if you don't know yourself, you don't know what you're talking about. You see, you think it was the asteroid that was trying to do something? Well, it could be. If the violence of the atmosphere had anything to do with it. But no, it didn't mean that at all. I just, I was suspecting that I was on Venus. But I wasn't sure. Later, as the boat was ready, the answer came to me. I was on Venus. And I could then. It was. This was a huge spaceship that I was on. Not an asteroid. Ten miles in diameter. And yet far away in the real world, and not from Venus, they were on the atmosphere of Venus. And this turbulence that I saw was lightning, thunder, and bull lines to the atmosphere of Venus when it is

facing the sun. But it's so dense that we can see it. It's the sun rays, you see, polarizing, ionizing the atmosphere of Venus. What is beneath that atmosphere, I wasn't permitted to see. Another way to influence our mind in such a way is to let us see that. So this is very, although it was in a different way, it was very physical. Here's what really happened. Notice in the first experience I drank something. Then I belonged to their world. What it is that they had in these beautiful beverages, I don't know. Very delicious. There's something different. On this occasion, I had quit from Lockheed. I had not quit, I had taken a leave of absence. I found a few months work and they gave it to me. And Lockheed had its first strike in history then. And you see, it was on the back. I was precipitated away from the strike. Because I didn't belong. I was a union member. I did not mean it to the company nor to the strike. I was only a leave of absence, you see,

or to the employees. That was strange. And I went home. I didn't have to agree with it. Some of the boys marched in the line and said hello to them. I thought, but your brother, we told them. But I didn't walk it. Oh no, I was only a leave of absence, remember? I thought it would be interference. Oh, that was strange. The book says that then I woke up at work. Yes, six months later. Actually, I was home all the while. And I found myself at the river's bank. And a neighbor boy, Alton Krug, was asking me, he says, Lord, what are you doing here? And I said, well, I was just at the bottom of the river looking for some junk. Well, now he knew better. And I did too. I had to give him an explanation. Just like the asteroid. But what am I doing here? Am I coming from somewhere? Or am I going somewhere? Yes, I don't know. It was something my feet felt like.

I felt perfectly healthy. I went to the couch and maybe I felt sleepy and I don't remember hitting the couch. Under that bridge, I was close there. Made to come there. Got a beautiful way of the hand of spellbinding us first. Otherwise, we could never take the impact. It's terrific. Even with all this beauty. But certainly I couldn't. Because I studied everything I see. But they put you in a position where you don't study. You just know. You understand these things. So I drank. Something. Now, let's see. You know that if you take some of it for a doctor, today he wants to give you iodine for the thyroid. He gives it to you in a tablet or a tube. And somehow the thyroid finds its way only to the thyroid. And there it does its function. Nowhere else. Calcium and leucine in bones and teeth. Nowhere else. Iron in the blood. Everything has its place. Polarized in itself. Attracted at that spot and held there until it is used. Its essence is used and

its polarity is gone. It is now released. It is waste in the body. Metabolism. What happened here was the textillinium or germanium. Selenium and germanium. A little bit of selenium or germanium in a concoction scientifically mixed. Not by us, but by those who know how. We drank it. Selenium and germanium have a beautiful crystal function. And that's what we use in perfect transistors. They can arrest their let's say elements in the subconscious part of the brain. And being in that polarity, they are arrested there and they assume every vibration, every index, let's say, that those particular brain cells have.

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And they photograph it. They get the same imprint upon themselves. In other words, the atoms of these molecules adjust themselves in the same position as the atoms in the brain are so that we have that as memory. Now get this. This is very physical. So, as soon as they have arranged themselves perfectly and gathered all the memory and all that photographic status of that subconscious mind, attract it to those brain cells. The polarity has changed. You see? And they are dispelled. And it's just collected again by those who know how. Look at what science is doing with us without question. Anything they know of us, they'll get. Imagine science far superior to ours. Like anything they know, they recollect it, put it in a beverage. Neptune had undergone a seven day period with the substance. I had undergone a seven day period and we exchanged drinks. You see? He drank of me and I drank of him. Suddenly, when they became effective,

I began to get that feeling when I went to sleep. They became very effective. Now, my subconscious mind taking the imprint, taking the memory of these molecules that are centered around them. And after a seven day period, these other crystals, which one has taken, are no longer about polarity. They lose their... It's just like a tape recorder. We go over that with a new message erased. That's what happens to these magnetic. Exactly like that. Neither does Neptune's mind. But in the meantime, my brain, subconscious mind has taken all of that memory that Neptune had in his world during that time. And he has taken mine. Now, when the subconscious mind gives that off to me, immediately this turbulence, you see? That's why the explosion in the planet. I acted on it for a half hour. Conceived it. Brought myself to know what to do. The subconscious mind is still doing what the subconscious is active. All that comes back. Very, very different.

It came back to me when I was in the hospital. Three days. A whole seven day period. Very, very precise. And not until I could explain it, put it in all the ways it could be done.

That's right. And there's another story about me. Believe me, before I had this manuscript all sent in to Ray Ponder and he held it up about a year. In the last year, I came across a daughter on two planets in a magic presence. What am I? What I need? These men have already given it to the world, but they don't understand. You see? That is a new awakening. Funny one thing. A great teacher who gave us all that we are never to know yet. Believe me, and I'm taking this very factually. The New Testament gives me visitors, this is 2,000 years ago. The star of Bethany, the ecstasy of the three wise men. How did they know where they came from? No one told them. They went and told her that there was a king among them. And her it was very interesting. But wait a minute. He didn't want that news out. He says, wait, look at those three men. Kill them. She can't stand them. Well, I've never found them or heard of them since. How about those shepherds?

Who also saw the same thing. And they they had nothing but ecstasy to follow. They knew where to go and bring presents. They weren't told the day before. They came right there. Like Dr. Menzel. They had these experiences in one way or another. A dream. Which tells you the things that come two or three weeks since. Ahead. Right to the detail. Most all of us have had them. That is not a regular dream. We have to become a very high

station by our own efforts. And as we do show signs and aggression, then more is added. Those who have willow shall be given more. This experience,

in which I went up in the air across the Maldives, very physical. You did go in the spaceship? Yes, ma'am. And the ship was almost invisible. But I saw it. Because I was well, let's say prepared. Right then. Momentarily. Not more than maybe a minute or two before. And I saw nothing but a mist. Sort of a half bubble on the ground. Yes, it seemed to open. Now you find friends extending greetings

from Los Angeles to the cities that were not my home when I was lecturing there. Today I believe I can extend these greetings in reverse. From San Francisco, from Oakland, from Sacramento, from San Jose and Santa Cruz. I just completed a lecture tour there two weeks ago. Lasting seven days. I had been there over a year before. We had in each case twice the crowd. There were I think what Gabriel Green just said to you that it shows that your efforts are not being wasted. I noticed they knew interest in flying saucers among the people. Especially in Sacramento, where I had to speak a little differently from in the other places where they were a little more initiated.

They were in accord like the people felt within their own hearts and had experiences themselves. And they represented the cross-section of that capital city of California. I believe many of these other speakers and tours, men who've had contacts with can tell you the same thing. I will not go into details of my experiences as they are written down. Even this talk

today is part of the experience.

I began to get into second gear for me. My boy used to accompany me. One day he went home to Mom. He said, Mom, you know, you should see there's a nice bunch of people there. Good people. But he had to expect to go see a lot of hot rodders. You see, we stand at least among good people, if nothing else. Even the young among us are willing to admit that. I was also inspired to write.

The day before I left, I said, I beg you to be with me. I'm interested in asking questions. Do not hesitate. Don't be afraid to throw questions at me. I cannot be embarrassed any longer. But the

self-giving to people, didn't even have a welcome into the spirit of the geophysical year. I remember that very closely. The space satellite age, the age, and the entire

new awareness which many have entered. Not far off, awaiting all, as eternal as the truth, is the cosmic splendor. Now the cosmic splendor is nothing mysterious. It was to me up until this experience. Although I had once had it, I thought it was a peculiar state of affairs. I'm glad to read

that because it gives me an awful lot of company. More eternal than all things we know. Perhaps the only real eternity. It has no beginning, no end. When we think of God, our concepts always fail us. For we limit God by the limit of what we think that the truth is. It cannot be moved. And that whatever it is, the truth, that our concept then takes on the beginning of infinity. We taste a small bit of that truly endless, rapturous, divine sense, the cosmic splendor. It cannot be bought, trained for, nor given you by others. It is you. Your divine attachment to the center force of all creation. And it is merely truth becoming part of you and perceiving it. It was always there. Always will be. The only untruth exists in the limitation and quality of our senses. And our inclinations. From the day we are born, to the day we shed our bodies, the most natural instinct of man is the seeking of that sublime cosmic splendor sense.

But man is limited even at his present best. He can attain only starry imitations of it. He seeks it by excitement, by sexual means. I'm sorry, sensual means. This is all included. And by religious meanings. Some people are so limited in broadness of concept that they feel the real happiness is in man-made things and situations such as money, property, clothes, and all they can experience for their own ego and their own senses. True, all things make up the world. And I of course, and by seeking, discovering

and improving the essential things we gradually come only upon it. But most things, nearly everything material we know so far, are temporal. The new and better things. So with all religious and spiritual concepts we know so far, they too are altered along the way. It is not the material that perishes but man's interpretation of and use of material which perishes. It is not the truth of the word of religion that perishes but man's interpretation of it. But those who seek the truth will find themselves on the streams of truth which all lead to the sea of truth. One is immunity bound to reach the shores of the sea and stand before the cosmic planet. Technology lacks at such a time the universe will give it to that sea. And only when our evolution has perfected us can we enter it to be in the company of the Godhead and his perfected hosts. Indeed, it is doubtful that even the Earth's space visitors are always in that cosmic splendor.

That they remain on its shores is certain. The greatest proof that Earth has space visitors for ages is that our greatest recorded literature often mentions them. They have been called such as angels and by many other names. They have manifested themselves always in ways that were understandable to the people of the times involved. They never interfered with our divine evolution which is simply the finding of the truth by our own initiative. They cannot interfere because many men realize that. Angels were pictured with wings. Today we know that wings cannot serve anyone a few miles in our upper atmosphere. Out in space they are worthless. But we have at least three books which bring us the most accurate description of space visitors. I have come upon all three of these only within the past two years. They are a dollar on two planets. Unveiled mysteries and a magic presence. No man on Earth could know the ultimate truth.

To know that would mean to become that. And to be nearly omnipotent and believe that the truth is that which he can understand and interpret. He reveals that any other concept which is brought to his attention even after some time even for some time after he recognizes the truth and his error. New discoveries, theories, social improvements and revelations have had to meet terrible resistance. But the truth unfolded just the same. It is clear indeed that to paraphrase an axiom one and the truth constitute a majority. And nothing in history has faced more opposition and resistance than the advent of space visitors upon the consciousness of man. But that resistance has been worn thin. Today the subject is not faced with the ridicule and hostility that it was two years ago. In my own experiences I now feel that I am in a cause which gives many brothers and sisters what a lonely endeavor this was not very long ago. I feel sure many of you share this

experience. Flying saucers were still in the papers

there were some names appearing. Twenty-five of the very first came merely because I asked them to. But during the course of the very casually I wrote a flying saucer, you can imagine. A present was a lady, Mrs. Chenoweth, ninety years old very frail, and southern as Tennessee could make them. And her son was my business partner, Dick. They sat there during the time I was talking I could see her talking to Dick. I knew she couldn't see me, she was nearsighted. And after the talk I asked the guys what was mother saying, Dick? They said, oh, she was just telling me, is that Miss Angelucci I'm hearing? They said, yes, mother, that's Miss Angelucci. I said, no, what isn't, Dick? You're spoofing me. God came here to hear him. His mother asked Miss Angelucci. The man said, she used to be such a sensible fella. And Dick reminded her to keep quiet because he said this was worth coming five hundred miles for just to hear. It was even a

big lie. At the end of the meeting they figured that I had enough. I guess this is it, hey, Art? I guess you've had enough. That was the end, yes, there were ashes, but there was one little glow here and there. And out of those ashes, I've seen such things as now. And one of those 15-year-old, whom today many of you know is Max B. Miller, editor of Saucers Magazine. He's today 19 years old. He didn't know why I wanted him in this field, and I told him that I would never interfere with him. I had never upset him, had gone about his own business, but once in a while there would be a knock at his door or a telephone call. A whole lot together. As some of you know. And Max is here present today. I don't know if we have a chance to say a word to him or get him to say a word, but he's doing very wonderful in the flying saucer field. Also president of the Flying Saucers International. Now we proceed. I feel sure many of you share this

experience that I just mentioned. The question is often asked, when did flying saucers first come to observe Earth? To my consciousness in this lifetime, they came on May 23, 1952. That was only my first awareness, however, of their real existence. Others had been carrying the torch since June 1947, when Kenneth Arnold reported his sighting. Many believed that was the day of the first appearance. Yet, armed forces personnel reported such things as food fighters and strange lights in the last years of World War II. Even before this, the movement of the I.N. The images sparked by the book's unveiled mysteries and the magic present contained actual enlightenment that will serve in attuning us to the unfoldment of the universe in regard to but before even these, which emerged in the early 1930s. The book A Dollar on Two Planets was sufficient for the light. This was published about 1860, long before the scientific data contained in this book was even theorized

to be unsuspected by the bulk of mankind or any scientific body. In fact, modern science has not even begun to understand it. Of course, we could find manifestations of space visitors through all the scriptures that underlie our civilization. The Hindu religion stems from them. The Old Testament speaks of little else other than spirit. And the New Testament, the New Age of the Christ, is again self-evident. From beginning to end, the story of the Nazarene, the Christ, is vivid evidence of the wondrous emergence of space visitors. And those who do not perceive this verity in our age or belief, they will turn to ashes. The consuming flame is already beyond extinguishing. These have trapped themselves in their own folly and the time is near, very near, when they will have to show the end of the universe or its boundary lines, a photograph of God, a place of origin of Christ, other than from somewhere out in space.

Brothers and sisters, we are in the geophysical year. We are in the space satellite eternity. We are in the atomic age. And we are in the age of the truest and greatest spiritual truth awakening in all our past history. You who hear this, who read this, are on the threshold of cosmic awareness. One more step and you stand on the shores of the cosmic splendor. Now the great question is before us. And that is, if space visitors have been here for ages untold and much light of their truth was given by scripture, and such books and beings as mentioned herein, why is the revelation given us so many times by so many bearers? That is truly a question.

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The time of history tells its own story.

If Abraham was, then why was it necessary for David to be? And one man should be sufficient to reveal it. The great truth is that God is infinite and no man knows all the truth. We learn it by gradual and slow evolution. Even God does not interfere with it. Certainly space visitors were not there. We might ask the same in the science of electricity. If Franklin discovered it in lightning, why did we need Michael Faraday? Why did we need Clerk Maxwell? Or any of them after the first one? Again, the answer is self evident. None of them possessed the sympathy we all give and take something for those we find to be truly a oneness. In my own experiences with space visitors, what did I add to the call? Such a limited person as myself has such magnificent experience. The only answer I have is my coming upon the theory, the nature of infinite entities. This underlies with substance what others could only allude to. It proves that what

the other messengers and their books or talks gave forth is founded upon the very dynamic of the universe, which underlies all things we know. Many of you know of my experiences and subsequently backed up by manifestations in disguise. For those of you who do not know, we will make available the first phases of the experiences contained in the paper called The 20th Century Times. This is all the details of the first phase, in my own words and word for word. Others have read my book, Secret of the Saucers, and more of you will. Briefly, I tell you that the experiences had to be followed by manifestations by space visitors, for I was too much of the conservative, the unbeliever, the know-it-all, to believe even my own experiences at the time they occurred. On May 23, 1952, I was contacted by them by means of guided objects, which spoke to me, and to which I spoke. These proved to be only relay objects, much like a two-way television set.

On July 23, 1952, I was taken for a ride in one of their small crafts, about 1,000 miles above Los Angeles, and this distance reached in less than 4 minutes. From there, I saw the Earth, about 930 in the evening. Then on August 2, 1952, I met personally the being behind the voice which spoke to me in the previous context just mentioned. In due time, I began to doubt the experiences, but they seemed to know beforehand that this would happen, that is, these visitors. So they gave me just enough time to gather my Earth's senses again, and then perform substantiating capers in disguise for me. Finally, I believed, and began to understand some of their new experiences. I spent seven days in one of their mother crafts, which was approximately 10 miles in diameter, made of some transparent crystal plastic substance, and was like a little world of its own, and buildings of the same substance as the ship was made of. During these seven days, my physical body had never left

the Earth. In fact, this experience did not come into my memory or awareness until six months after it happened. It was the first time I had to explain away to myself something unfamiliar to my understanding, but in time, it came. There are many ways in which this experience could be given to one by beings who are vastly greater advanced than we are. Only one way, in many ways. In due time, we of this Earth shall come upon all these things. And if some of you want to bring it up in the question and answer period, just how these can be done, we'll be glad to treat it briefly. Even I cannot understand the entire reality of them. They came to me because I also was a seeker. My seeking was in the fundamental sciences. My faith was an undoubting awareness of a supreme intelligent power. It must be remembered that when a scientist comes upon a discovery, whether it is the solution to a disease, or the discovery of a heavenly body,

or a new physical wall found, it is accompanied by an inexpressible ecstasy. The Earth seems then to stand still, and smile and sing to that one. The same applies to all those making entry into spiritual unfoldment. Many people have experienced the entry into such a splendor by both paths, finding an example. The fundamental scientist is endowed by no less than a taste of cosmic awareness. He is endowed with understanding, surpassing even the scientist. Yet, no one has ever been able to fully use the enlightenment, be it in the material or the spiritual. It is up to others to add what is left lacking. We all can all remember our great lesson. My first experience with a taste of cosmic awareness was in December 1945. For no reason apparent to me, I took off from home in Trenton, New Jersey, to vacation for four days in Lakewood, New Jersey, a winter resort only 30 miles from Trenton. It was snowing fairly heavily. The car

seemed to take wings of its own. I felt a communion with every human being on Earth, though I was riding alone. The car seemed to know the road better than I. There was a cosmic presence all around me. I went into silence, and even the motor seemed to just purr like a kitten. This day changed my life somewhat, and the sense never fully left. But this was a mere preliminary of what was yet to come. At three o'clock in the morning, I roasted a sandwich with some sparkling ginger ale, sometime in the early spring of 1948, less than three years after. My head ached from nervous tension. My mind was racing with perturbed questions as to the nature of matter, the atom and all nature. I lifted the glass of ginger ale to my eyes to lose myself in its liquid interior while I munched the sandwich, just looking at these glasses and watching the bubbles coming in. The bubbles rose endlessly from the bottom of the glass to the top.

And these are the questions I was asking myself, groping for the nature of the atom itself. Why was the fundamental nature of the atom so mysterious to us when its true being is so simple? After all, the atoms are no more than mere bubbles in the ether. I set the glass down and pondered as I munched the sandwich. And I lifted again the glass to my eyes until I could see only the ginger ale and bubbles. Then it struck. Atoms were bubbles in the ether. There was a simple answer all the while. Suddenly the glass before my eyes seemed to become infinite like the universe. I could hear the music of the spheres. The kitchen I sat in no longer existed. All the cosmos stood still for a moment. And myriads of superb beings seemed to be smiling upon me. I felt perfectly healthy for some moments. I did not have a feeling that this concept might be. It was the feeling that this concept was the nature of the universe. And in the course of only several minutes

while I must have sat motionless engulfed in the glass of that ginger ale with its rising bubbles, an entire theory was born. All the complex manifestations of all matter paraded beautifully and orderly before my eyes. And truly angelic presences were all around me by untold numbers. The superb sense of how every enlightened entity of the universe can pause for a moment and sing the music of the spheres when the humblest one of us comes upon a true thing. A spiritual truth is acknowledged throughout the cosmos in the same manner. Is this not what the great teacher one of our heavenly hosts meant when he said that among all the prophets there were none greater than John the Baptist? But that the least one of us who came upon the Holy Spirit or the least one in heaven was greater than John, cosmic splendor can only go in one direction. Before we come to our question and answer period, let us remember some highlights

in the pageantry of the modern behaviors of space visitors. Let us keep in mind that no one can escape their observance and vigilance. And that when they want someone to act on their behalf, there is nothing we can do to stop it. Dr. Donald Menza, the head of the Harvard astronomy department, can well attest to this. Incidentally, we're here on Wednesday and there is a book, a direct answer to Dr. Menza, and it's called The Truth About Flying Saucers by Amy Michel, a French physicist taking the opposite view. So you see, all things are given us in due time. We need both books.

The Harvard astronomy department can well attest to this though he may not be aware of it. He wrote the book and gave the lectures which silenced the press of the United States but which made the Air Force he read. In his wonderful book that tries to discount flying saucers as merely natural mirages, optical illusions, and hallucinations, we can see that a practical scientist applied himself for several precious years. Yet he says there's something silly such as Dr. Menza working for three years on his book, a very important scientist, head of the astronomy department of Harvard. The space visitors left their very footprints in his own book. And with the footprints, they also left a bit of evidence of the ecstasy of discovery and the cosmic splendor which can penetrate the vitals of even such unemotional men themselves. Let's see what we find on vital page 3.

Just as a matter of interest, I think the fact that it's on page 3 is very symbolic. It is to me. I read this book twice before I ever noticed the pearl that was hidden in it. This is a sick oyster. The book itself, we can liken it to a sick oyster, but there's a pearl in it. But we must find it. Those who are nice to see the meek shall inherit the earth because everything works for the meek. Now, many of you audiences know that I often talk up there seeming to spellbound me before the contact. I still insist on that because I have seen others spellbound before my very eyes and by them. Merely for the purpose of telling me this is the way you look when we have you under our control. Imprimensal, proceeding in its best efforts with the aid of all science, except those scientists who disagree with him and they're about more than half writing a wonderful book wrote out by Harvard The Flying Saucer Pageantry. Yet, on page 3

let us see what he's doing. Now, he's not aware that he's putting this page in here, and neither was Harvard. Neither were the thousands of people in Rome during that Rome sighting in the fall of 1954. I'd like to repeat that this also comes under the heading of spellbinding in their control for a while. Now, he says here,

But he's a top-notch. They're preparing him the day before. Look in the sky, you'll be seeing something. It's exactly all of our experiences. It was somewhat unique that most of the saucers believed at the Holloman Air Base. But others in the group, including several well-known scientists, indicated that there was probably more to the story, the saucer story than that. He admits clearly here that, what if your scientists believe that we have something from another world? Early that evening, I had my second attack of saucers. Now, this was in the backseat of an automobile being driven toward Alamogordo, Dr. Menzo admiring the full moon, which should be something very casual, and it would be a bright star. And then a second star appeared. I assumed that they were

casually, I assumed that they were Castor and Pollux in the constellation Gemini. Then, very suddenly, he's going into the cosmic awareness. I realized that Gemini was a winter object. The two stars had to be something else. Most astronomers, I am always hopeful of finding a nova, a star that has exploded and thus become exceptionally bright. I rapidly opened the window of the car for a better look, becoming like a little child, seeing as it's quite sharp.

What I've noticed is taking a lot of these things into consideration. Any contact at the moment takes many things into consideration. These were hazy, but they were not stars. His eyes were good because he could see nearby in Paris. The test is giving himself. Both hazy, this is shown with slightly bluish light, simply because they were elevated. I was seeing something unusual. I asked the driver to stop. He asked, Dr. Menzel, right now, he's out on an air base to check the saucers and distribute them. I told the driver to stop, there's two saucers in the air. Can you picture it?

We climbed out of the car just in time to see the saucers literally fade away as mysteriously as they had appeared. I reported the occurrence in detail to the Air Force. You can imagine, Dr. Menzel, probably himself in the Air Force, I saw two saucers myself. Had it not been for the current flying saucer publicity, I should probably not have given the phenomenon a second thought. Under the actual circumstances, I had long wondered what it was that I actually saw. The simpler and more obvious explanations, like wisps of clouds or distant searchlights, did not seem acceptable. But at no time did I have even despite the suspicion that the objects were of interplanetary origin. He just forgot he was in spell just a moment ago. It's done so gently you'll never know it. I recently found a reference in an old book by Edward J. Lowe, an English meteorologist who mentioned a similar phenomenon observed as long ago as 1838.

Similar, except for the fact that he saw four instead of two ghostly energies flying near the moon. Perhaps I shall be expected at this point to explain exactly what I saw that evening in New Mexico. I am sorry to say that I cannot explain the phenomenon in every detail, but I do have some certain ideas on the subject which seem to be entirely reasonable. I shall explain those ideas, but first let me see, let me say what I do not believe. I do not believe that what I saw or anything anyone else has before seen were missiles or messengers or vehicles from Venus or the moon. I do not believe they were missiles or messengers or vehicles from Russia or any other foreign country. I do not believe that the exploding of the atom bomb was in any way a direct cause of the saucers. This writing in there that he probably wished he had never written. I wish I had written that page in my book. So you see, even in my book, some years ago we had said at a meeting

that they could take every newspaper after they are printed down the street and revise every letter within a few seconds. The space visitors do not interfere with that evolution. I think most of you know what that means and most of you agree. None of us interfere with anyone's evolution even though we think we do. We may force someone to go and hear a lesson or central in the school. It's not interference, that's part of those who have the light, bring others to the light. Not those who have reached all over this world, they can no longer interfere with that. That is in God's hand. And incidentally when you're communing with God

in the American Weekly section of the Hearst Syndicate, writers and science fiction, pretty scientific minded, nevertheless very materialistic, writes to the general public, you wouldn't think that he's aware of such a thing as and yet perhaps unwittingly here it is, in his own works, in his own writing. Coming away from the I think there's an article today too, in the Samaritan Park. The first nation does not succeed in establishing a space station sufficiently far ahead of another nation or if it is civilized enough not to interfere he has not in a big letter. Not to interfere with another nation's effort, the existence of at least two space stations of different nationalities. That's all for that. I mean even they can see that at the moment when we reach that, we don't interfere with the evolution of another. Do not interfere with the evolution of other nations. Except when they overstep. Wherever they get, regardless of how

crazy it sounds, that's what to investigate. See what you get. You may come up with a problem which we can't, although we're working for the same thing. One little

fundamental principle of nature. That was all that was required. The experiences themselves changed me. They didn't change me. They would not give me any further experiences. I was willing to let the material side now rest as the whole world was involved in it in laboratories and take on something within myself. I must be elegant enough within my own heart. I don't mean that I must live that life on earth. But in dealing with them, they must know that they will not be interfering or influencing my behavior in any way whatsoever. That would be interference with my evolution. In that case, the one responsible would have to suffer for it. I believe many of you have gathered it. The experiences lasted right on to this very moment. In fact, the last year, four months or so, was spent by me being very quiet, very inactive, getting right down to earth. We were branched out into business, which I'm going to now. I was learning

the earthly lesson. Why so many people suffer? What it means to be penniless, even with a good

soul within. What it means to be young, reaching, not understanding, and to receive tolerance and understanding from the older. And it's newer than we are. Not better. Therefore, the teacher actually took time off their lessons to tell them, oh, one child mentioned something about flying saucers. She says, look, don't ever believe anything about flying saucers. There's just nothing there. Well, you know that they're fighting and losing back. These people eventually have got to come to our side because the world is going into that side. The children know more about space visitors and flying saucers than we, even with experiences. Because the children aren't there with that freshness, with that freshness of the soul, the necessities of the world, the falsities of the world that work later on. If we could just bring the children in school just once a week, let them have their say for one half hour, what do they mean the history of the future

will be like, instead of being calcating in their minds the history of the past, day after day, for hours, what will the future be like? We will really get some answers. Space visitors themselves will be dancing in the skies because then they can descend among this caper more, manifest themselves more, then they know that we're safe. Materially, we're going in that direction. We have been prepared. Notice, seven years, we've had preparation. In the newspapers, and as long as they were a light subject, something that could be laughed off, flying over headlines, but then it took a sudden turn. Somewhere inside, they see it was used quietly for the real work to take place. The newspapers, magazines, and radio were still treating it today as they were in the beginning. I could see in advance then. Now I'm looking in retrospect. It still stands true. I came away with a feeling

that those people needed something. I knew I had it, but I just couldn't bring it to them suddenly. And I myself didn't know that I knew time to bring it out. So I would just wait patiently. I have noticed, with my mission, it goes in stages. After one phase, then you get the next phase. I began to see the desert country, the green turning to semi-desert, and there I felt suddenly at home in Los Angeles. All these new minds,

all these new thoughts, whether they're from the remotest little town, or out on a farm somewhere, Los Angeles is their mecca. It's their stronghold and their buttress. I can see now why I myself was precipitated to live here in Los Angeles. Don't be afraid of new thoughts, regardless how fantastic thousands and thousands of brothers and sisters, regardless of how wild. Sure, it's not all good. You'll find it good if you go after the truth. Let's keep Los Angeles different. My friends, coming from back home where I came from, said when they came to Los Angeles they felt something different, as they had something become professors. As we start to help to profess, you'll find everybody else here is a professor. So, we have time later to think about what Mr. Green has to say. We sure want to thank him for sponsoring such talks here. ...

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