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Calvin Girvin Night Has A Thousand Saucers

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[00:00] Opening remarks and introduction

I did lecture in Long Beach this past September on some of my experiences with the flying

saucer and space people, and it's been a little while, so if I'm a little rusty, why please excuse me. Well, most people, the first question most people ask to a person that has had a contact

with a flying saucer is, how did you ever get interested in flying saucers? Well, myself, I can say that interests were brought about through the encouragement of

my father, who was a science fiction fan for many, many years. While I was growing up, and when I came back, one evening he threw into my lap a copy of

Fate magazine. He said, here's something that's really good, you should try and read it. It has all the latest dope in here on flying saucers. Well, flying saucers had an inward feeling to me. It meant something to me inside that I couldn't explain. It was a mystery. But physically... Physically or outwardly, I laughed. I said, oh yeah, just to go along with him, I was more or less what you might call a die hard. I read the newspapers and I listened to the stories, but I never did too much reading. And I thought somebody was trying to pull somebody's leg all the time. Well, it was during this time that this happened in 1948, and upon visiting a friend of mine

some mile and a half from my home. And it was such a nice evening that I decided upon walking. And going over, I gave this business of flying saucers quite a bit of thought, and I just couldn't get it out of my mind because I was very fond of my father, and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't letting him down in any way. So I walked to the place, more or less taken up with flying saucers.

And thinking it over, and just wondering what it was all about. And just prior to reaching this friend of mine's home, I saw a very large falling star cut across the sky, and then I said, yes, I suppose that is what people are seeing. But I dismissed the entire thought from my mind, and went on into the home and greeted this friend of mine, who I hadn't seen for a number of years. He was my rival. He married my school... A real sweetheart. And I was sort of interested in seeing her, too, and to make sure that she was really in love with him, I guess. And we had a very interesting evening, talking and discussing old times, getting together

again, and making plans for the months ahead. Trout fishing was coming up in a few months, and we were both quite interested in that. And after several hours in the home... I thought I had taken up enough of their time, so I decided upon leaving. And I saw them yawning a little, so I knew that was the time for me to get out. So I excused myself and bid them goodbye, and said I would see them again. And I started home, and it was a crisp, cold evening, and there had been a little snow

[04:00] Calvin Girvin introduces 'Night Has a Thousand Saucers'

on the ground, and a few rabbits out frolicking around, and that's about the only thing you could see. And while a short distance from the house, I thought this night, it's so beautiful, it's so crystal clear and everything, tonight would be an ideal time to see something, if there are such things, as flying saucers. And at that particular moment, something caused me to look up. And when I did, I saw this streak of light coming toward me, it was coming at a tremendous

rate of speed, and it was growing. That's how I knew it was trailing, as fast as it were. And it came to within a couple of thousand feet. I'm not too good at estimating distances, but within a few thousand feet of me, or over me, and over. And I was dumbfounded. I didn't know what to say or what to do. I didn't know whether to run. I felt a little scared. And I thought about running home and telling my father to show him. But I thought, no. I don't know. I better not. So I stood and watched this object, and in doing so, I thought perhaps by sending a message

to them through my mind, perhaps I could get them to come a little closer. And I tried this, but it just hovered there. And then I thought, well, maybe I can get home in time to tell my father about it, and he can come out and see it with me. And when I started heading toward the sky, I saw a little star. But when I had arrived at home, and in a pretty fast run, it moved right along with me. But it seemed as though we're getting smaller and disappearing. So I stopped again, and this object came down a little closer. And it never landed, but it was a sighting. It was something that I had never seen before. It was something that established the facts in my mind that my father was right all the time. I watched this particular object for approximately 15 to 20 minutes and it played around in the sky and would almost disappear and come back down and make a sweep over the countryside and in about 15 to 20 minutes it did disappear

it went straight up heading up into the Milky Way and out of sight well I went on home and I told my father of this and he smiled and laughed and said well he said I myself had seen similar things going on around we live in a wooded area on a hillside in the past few months but I didn't care to mention it to anyone because I knew that everybody would think that I was maybe a little loose in the head somewhere so he told me to keep it to myself he said don't tell anybody so I didn't but the following I picked up his fake magazines all of them and I started going through them and the following day I went to a neighbor to we got our milk we lived in the country we got our milk at the neighbor's and I went over to pick up the milk for the day and the first thing that he said to me was did you see that flying saucer last evening well I didn't say yes or no I just gave him a big smile because it confirmed the fact that I wasn't having any kind of a hallucination

that I did see it I just wanted to see something and from that time on flying saucers really did mean quite a bit to me I took it seriously and I gave it quite a bit of serious thought and something inside of me seemed as though it were unfolding I couldn't quite understand it it's an experience that you alone would have to experience in order to understand how it really feels and something was pushing me I would say to him I would have visions if you were to call them visions I would see what I would be doing a year from now and at first I sort of laughed at them but a year from then I was doing exactly what I saw a year back I saw myself back into the Air Force with a mission, a purpose for them and the time came when I quit my job and found myself in the Air Force and I found myself in the Air Force and I found myself in the Air Force and I found myself in the Air Force uh in the air force recruiting station in the post office uh finding out what i could uh

do to get back into the air force or to get into the air force i had been in the army before that and it seemed as though i was in excellent condition and just a kind of person they were interested in and up went another notch on the quota for the that particular month i

guess and i was back in the air force as an airman first class and on my way to washington i was driving a 50 ford at that time this was the year 1952 i was headed toward washington from harrisburg

pennsylvania to my point or to my uh to my space of induction was at bowling field in washington dc

and uh as i was driving along it was about three o'clock in the morning it was uh quite lonely the roads uh there weren't too many trucks uh or automobiles on the road and my thoughts uh centered around flying saucers and driving down the road and thinking about flying saucers and when i received what some people call mental telepathy i think is the term they use a message

uh to keep watching the sky in front of me that i would see something and whenever i would get something like this would pass through my mind i would sort of laugh at myself and say well whatever made me think of that or whatever made my mind say that to me and in doing so i saw this

what appeared to be a falling star but it didn't fall it kept on a straight pace across the sky and in front of me it must have been quite a distance out and after i saw that i also received this message to turn off to the first road to the right that it would be down the road about a mile and so i slowed down i was doing about 55 i slowed down to about 35 miles an hour to keep looking for this road i thought well i'll follow this and see what happens and i turned down this road it was an unused stony road and i had a blank floor and i was quite proud of the polish i would keep on it and these branches in this road sure affects that in a hurry but i drove right on through and i drove down quite a little distance and in the in the immediate area in front of me i saw this

glowing object that i have drawings here of it this top one's very similar to the adamski uh type of crab and it

was hovering just a short distance above the ground and uh i wasn't scared but it was really a funny feeling um you can't say you're scared it's something that you more or less always wished for and then has happened i guess like christmas morning i didn't know but um i got out of the car and i thought i would wait uh for instructions to see if there were any instructions and uh i was greeted by one who called himself prexton uh that isn't his name but that is the name i give him i can't pronounce his name but it's very similar uh to it i call him prexton and

he greeted me by my name and told me that uh that he was expecting this to happen and that he had been responsible for the many uh things that i sort of uh would be inspired to do in the past few years and that he invited me aboard his crab and told me he would show me around the interior of the ship this first ship here on top is the one that he was in charge of there were 11 people

beside himself before and i was introduced to most of them and some of them were busy the wasn't too long but he was more or less interested in convincing me that i was in a spaceship and

and there were such things and such people and i would say the visit lasted to about 45 minutes

to an hour and we went around and i saw many things that i didn't know what they were it would be very hard for me to describe them even because they were such a fantastic uh nature to look at uh some of them appeared to be hanging right in the middle of the room with nothing supporting and uh there were chairs and stools that did have bases that run on little tracks that uh one person would operate a section or three people would operate it if three people would operate the section why this tracks or the seats were stationary one person operated this particular section the two of the seats would be taken out and the other one was on a track and there would there would be no uh there would be no uh walking back and forth they would just slide along and this was done by some kind of buttons on this um on this tremendous dashboard that they have on this here and uh each operator uh he was

very uh specific about telling me how the ship was operated that each operator or one operator controlling three portions of the ship or one operator controlling one portion of the ship that there were three people in this one section uh was responsible for one section of that ship and it required there were 11 sections of the ship and at any time three of the sections were disengaged from uh from their uh their type of

fuel which is a sort of an electronical magnetic device that is pulled in from the atmosphere into a magnetron and produced within the ship itself it would shut off this here one section of the ship and it would immediately do a right angle i mean if they intended in going uh in a right angle they would just disengage that one section of the ship and it would gravity or whatever the propulsion or whatever it is would swing it in that direction it was quite interesting they had very elaborate bedrooms there were three of them on board and uh very nicely furnished the uh they had store rooms and they had one room for food and food preparation and one room was for supplies equipment mechanical equipment and things of that nature and it was all in all it was a very fascinating experience and i have it related

in detail in a book that i'm about ready to send to the publishers before too long i hope so anyhow it will be titled the knight has a thousand saucers and i will tell my many experiences with people who have had contacts and people who work with saucers and do saucer research and some of the crazy things that has happened to me in my life not only saucers and then i said that they were they were running out of time that they had to get going and that it was best for me to be going also so i left him and he said that he would be in contact with me constantly mentally well at that particular time it was just another word or a way of talking i didn't understand it he said that it was necessary that i be of service to

them um that i would be of service to them and some i left him and got into my car and they took off immediately upon me leaving the ship i got in my car and they disappeared within a matter of seconds leaving a trail of flaming sparks up through the uh area and the baltimore and eaton

They sent jets up to chase it, but they got away from it, or something like that. So I went on into Washington, reported into a bowling field, and nothing happened. And approximately six months from that time, I got this voice again, and I'd almost forgotten

about it by then. They said that the time is coming close, the time is drawing near.

And the next day, or within a few days anyhow, I was called in for an interview, and I was sent with three other men to the Pentagon to compete for a position in the command post

of the USAP headquarters, which is the most top-secret place in the United States. It's the organization in the Pentagon, where I'd be working in and out of the war room, the most top-secret room in the world, where plans for war are discussed, and haul top-secret material pertaining to anything you want to think of, centers and filters through there.

[18:40] Flying saucer reports and public reaction

And these other two men, they did have a lot more time and service than I did, and they were more familiar with the type of work that was to be done than I. But when the final... Yeah. ...word came, I had been selected to fulfill this job. Well, I found it very interesting. I didn't have too much to do, and I liked that, being in the service. The generals would come in and have a big meeting, and I would put coffee cups down around the table, and fill them full of coffee, and I'd sharpen their pencils, and when they

were finished with their doodling... When they were doodling, I would have to collect all of their doodles and burn them. They were considered top-secret, and it was a lot of fun.

I had a lot of free time, so I would spend my free time in their files, reading top-secret material. Anything that came to unidentified flying objects was my meat, and they had a record... I don't know. But, they had a separate file for them. They saw me spending an awful lot of my time, and several colonels questioned me on it. I played into their little game I suppose. About eight months later and I was discharged from that particular job, and I had found out just what I wanted to know. I found out quite a bit. Some of it I can't talk of yet today. I don't know when I'll be able to, but I still... And... held to that clearance until i'm until i'm cleared and i'm not cleared as yet but from the pentagon i don't believe they were finished with me in washington because they sent me to andrews field that was only about 12 miles out of washington and andrews field is if you remember in the keyhole books was quite an active area for the for that particular time when the

saucers bombarded washington dc they were seen at andrews field and all over well i went to andrews field and i got a pretty nice job there i was a manager of a uh airmen's club and uh i had a lot

of time to do reading again and i kept up with the flying saucer trend and talked and tried to make friends with people who were interested in it and it was surprising the amount of people that weren't interested in it and the amount of people that were interested in it and the amount of people that didn't at that particular time and the circles that i that i came into uh one evening i was sitting next to a full general or not full general a one-star general had a dinner party and it was a group of people who were interested in flying saucers it was a pretty uh well-to-do uh party i mean but everybody there were interested in flying saucers and i didn't do any speaking at that particular time because when you're in the service you have to be in the service you have to be in the service you have to be in the service you have to be in the care of what you what you say you say the wrong thing you can get into trouble serious trouble

so i kept most of these things to myself i did start writing back in 52 to get i hope to have my

book finished by the time i get out of the service but i got a little lazy somewhere along the way i know writing a book is a pretty hard piece of work if you don't have too much uh education and i don't have too much education uh as far as writing techniques and things of that type are concerned and uh so things in

washington seem to slow down quite a bit and uh about five months before my next assignment came up a friend of mine said if you were to go somewhere where would you really like to go i said well i think i'll be going to hawaii i don't know if he said you think you're going i said yes i do and i don't know what made me say what i did but six months later i was at hickam field in hawaii it just seems as though i see these things in front of me and uh i surprise myself sometimes when i say them i keep asking myself why did i say that but i wait a little while and i found find out that where i'm supposed to be i guess

well in hawaii uh the activity over there is it's really tremendous and they have

a saucer research group going on over there uh let's see that's uh akulele research group is the

name of it akulele is in hawaiian name for flying saucers and uh it's very active

i was uh one of their meetings i had a little program i couldn't say anything but i had all of my books and all of my material my collection there on display and i would answer questions to people uh while i was over with the air force but riley crab and who's the president of this organization is doing a wonderful job and they have they're getting crowds of four five six seven hundred people and a lot of tourists uh hit that well playground for that kind of uh

trade and he held his meetings at the reef hotel in wankakee and uh at the honolulu library which is quite large also well after getting to hawaii uh i was subject to having crazy dreams while they were crazy to the majority of people i suppose but

they were quite interesting and i found myself wanting to go to bed at night i could hardly wait for the sun went down because i know i have a nice dream tonight it does seem a little humorous

but i mean if you learn if you learn that way it is very it's a wonderful way of learning and i have uh i've had some very interesting experiences and but it all must have meant something because it was centered around things dealing with electronics devices how to build things uh constantly this one man in my dreams he kept calling me showing me something about an electric light bulb

he showed he showed me not the light itself or the uh but something else that was being emitted from the light that if it were harnessed it could mean a lot more than that the light that you see coming from itself it didn't make too much sense but he kept coming back until it did make sense and i talked it over with an electronics expert and he said it sounded very clever and

during this time i was making friends again in hawaii and meeting all of the people in the know online saucers and which led me to the home of the one of the judges of the honolulu district court and also to a home of the chief clerk of the honolulu district court they were all quite interested in ashtar and all of his friends and the people in the important offices there were

this one this one friend of mine she was the secretary to the base and she was she's about one of the most ardent flying saucer fans i think i've ever met

she has read everything that has ever been published printed or anything else i believe and she kept me up to date and kept pushing me along in my activity in my research i don't know if i wanted to try to outdo her or what but i mean we kept we kept it going that way and it was quite interesting and then a last uh i don't know i don't know if you've heard of her but she's a great person and she's a great person and i think she's a great person and i think she's a great person and she's a great person and i think she's a great person and i think she's a great person last uh november the or last uh december the 7th i'm getting november the 7th last january the 7th of 1956 or yes 1956. uh i have a piece of paper here

it was on the front page of the honolulu uh advertisers said flaming flying saucer spotted over the canopy said honolulu was visited by a flying saucer last night and it was absolutely the real thing said a man who ought to know marty myerson of new york city who has been collecting sightings back to 1906 of civilian saucer intelligence or four civilian saucer

intelligence has evaluated the report by an accredited military observer we saw the thing for 45 minutes the observer and his wife said he and his wife and five others took turns holding binoculars on the beautiful binoculars on the beautiful 100 foot diameter 100 foot diameter perfect dish 100 foot diameter 100 foot diameter perfect dish 100 foot diameter 100 foot diameter perfect dish while it hovered over st louis height while it hovered over st louis height while it hovered over st louis height st louis heights then slowly came to the st louis heights then slowly came to the st louis heights then slowly came to the ground to a bare spot ground to a bare spot ground to a bare spot where there aren't any houses the seven where there aren't any houses the seven where there aren't any houses the seven watched uh brilliant red nucleuses watched uh brilliant red nucleuses watched uh brilliant red nucleuses surrounded with a glowing

surrounded with a glowing surrounded with a glowing fringe which changed to a variety of fringe which changed to a variety of fringe which changed to a variety of colors the object finally took off I knew this boy, I saw this here, and his wife and all of the other people I met, and he supplied saucers, Max Miller's group in Los Angeles here, with a picture of supplying saucers over Honolulu.

I think a few people that get saucers, you know which one I mean. And the following day, on the 8th of January, naturally, the word got out pretty fast, and there were 15 of us saucer-minded people who gathered at the Wacken King Biltmore the following day, about 1.30,

and we had planned to hike up into the wooded area. St. Louis Heights, and to see if we could find any evidence of where the saucer came down, and it was raining, and it was quite a miserable day, and we piled into about three automobiles and climbed up over this tremendous hill, it's Allen Caster, I think, Avenue or Boulevard or something, it almost goes straight up, and groaning in low gear, we didn't know whether we'd get there or not, but we finally did.

And we got to approximately as close to the area as we possibly could, and we got out and started to walk. Well, some of them, they got a little scared, because the only way to get into where we wanted to go was to plow through quite a bit of this prickly cactus, and it's quite heavy over there on the mountainside, and I had on a pair of white shoes,

and I didn't want to get in white shoes. I messed up, so I took them off, and I thought if any of my friends are around, I'll just sort of direct my feet to where I'm supposed to walk, and I didn't have any, I wasn't bothered with any cactus, and I walked practically all over it, but this master sergeant and I, we led the crowd through this mass of woods and cactus,

and when we entered, just one particular area, we noticed he and I both, we stopped and looked at each other, and he said, do you feel anything different? I said, yes, I do. And I noted that on the back of my, on the back of my head, at the base of my spine, I had sort of a tingling sensation, and it did hurt, it hurt quite a bit. It seemed as though there were pressures of some sort, and I couldn't understand it. And he said, well, I have the same thing happening to me. And so we we carried on through then, and the other ones were quite a ways behind us, and we got out into this particular area where you could see his home, and started looking around, and over this one area, you could see where all of the trees, the leaves had been turned over, or turned around. You could pick it out, I mean, over the side of a mountain, it was quite easy to see where something came sweeping across, and afforded enough pressure, or something there, to twist the leaves around,

and directed it to a particular spot that was quite high up. And by that time, we thought we'd better wait until the rest of the people caught up with us. And we had a colonel with us who had, he didn't want anybody to know it, but he checked out a guy we encountered. He wanted to check the area for radioactivity. And about two days later, the OSI, that's the Air Force, he stopped up, called me, and asked me who the colonel was, and checked out the guy who came up. They wanted to know about him, I guess. But I said I didn't know him, he was just in the group. But we did find slight traces of radioactiveness in that area. Now, in that particular area, I don't know if it was caused by a saucer, or what, but the indicator did click pretty fast. And uh... the rest of the group, they sort of wandered off to themselves, trying to climb up this one area and I stood there with, uh... something like stars in my eyes, I guess

just amazed over this here, I just thought it was wonderful. And uh... I had a little notebook, and I... I thought I would take it out and write down my impressions as just how I'd felt, at that particular time. And uh... The paper was getting very contain, um And uh... getting wet, but I wrote, on comes the rain again. It seems funny that all of us has decided that we will find something here. I surely hope so. I have a strong feeling that the saucer set down on this very spot where I now stand, and I'm strongly impressed mentally that somebody is watching this group here now. If anyone is here who knows about this and is looking on, I want you to know that we are sincere and have a most earnest desire to be contacted by you. What better time than right now for all of us to see your saucer and for you to give us evidence and reassurance that we are not seeking in vain, trying to understand about your space visitors and your vehicles.

Is this all possible? Won't you please lower your ship through the cloud and come into view? I mean,

[34:00] Interpretations, patterns, and implications

that is what I wrote. I was impressed to write it, so I did. And after reading it over, I thought it was rather poetic. All in all, all of this here more or less was going through my mind. And I turned around and I saw someone stepping from behind a cactus. And I thought it was one of the others from the group that had come down to join me in my meditation. But I looked up and I didn't recognize the person. And he was

quite a little distance, probably. And he started coming toward me, and he spoke in a voice that sounded familiar. And I thought, well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't recognize him. But I was very familiar. And I looked up, and it was Craig Stapp again. And he greeted me. And said, good afternoon. And we talked about many things

that had happened over the past year and a half, from the time I had seen it before. And of that particular, of the particular sighting that was going on, that took place the evening before. And

I I tried to get him to go to the top of this hill with me to meet the other people, for some reason he declined, but the people up there, they looked down and they saw me talking to this gentleman, and they asked me afterwards who it was, and during the course of our little talk, which didn't last too long, he told them about the many things that he had planned for the group to do, the flying saucer group in that area. It hadn't been formally organized, it had no name or anything, and he was interested,

and he said the space people are quite interested in having groups of this type being formed all over the country, and with the intentions eventually for them all pooling their resources if he's having one group, something like, if I understand you here, it has to be mine, I believe. And we discussed it. We discussed a few things that were of a personal nature, and all of a sudden I felt

as though my blood sort of rushed from my head, and my eyes became as though somebody blew a bunch of smoke in them or something, and I lost my sight for just an instant, so it seemed, and rubbing my eyes, had tears in them, and trying to look again to see where

he was. When I got my eyesight back, he had disappeared, he was gone. I don't know, I'm not too much of an occult student of the occult sciences or metaphysics, but somebody said that it's quite possible that it might have been a projection of some kind, an astral projection, I don't know what it was. But at that particular time, if I would have reached over and touched him, I'm sure I would have felt flesh and bone just the same as I am. But as he disappeared... A cloud slipped back from the sun, and the sun rays came shining down through, and something,

a feeling came over me that just poured into me, just like maybe a cup might feel when

it gets filled, I don't know, but I felt good, I felt elevated, I felt like God himself had reached down out of heaven and touched me, I felt that wonderful, and so I quickly climbed up this slope. I went up to join the other ones to tell them of my experience, but the closer to the top I got, the more I was inclined not to. I was sort of inclined to just forget about it and mention it to two people who would be quite interested. And this I did. And when we reached the top of the hill, or when I reached the top of the hill, the other ones up there had found a pair of coveralls that were made in Baltimore. And what they were doing on top of that mountain, I don't know, but right there in that cactus

was this area that was burnt out, just as though a tremendous amount of heat came down there and burned this cactus to where the chlorophyll flowed down over the unburned cactus. Now, it would take an awful, awful, a strong heat to do something like that, I'm sure. I'm not up on that too much, but where the chlorophyll had run down over the cactus, it would have burned out. And the part of the unburned cactus, and the part that was burned was just ash, and the ground, the stone, everything else was quite burned in that area. And the way this boy described the saucer coming down, that it was of a tremendous disc shaped object, something very similar to what Truman Bethlehem's flying saucer might have looked like. And it came down, not this way, but came down on its side. It came straight down like a coin, like you'd stand a coin up on its head. It came down that way, and he saw a flashlight activity, he and his wife and his other people,

and movement in that area of the 94. And it just sort of looked as though somebody came climbing through the hill there in the mountains and peeled off a pair of coveralls and stepped out of them and stepped into something and off they go. Now this happened in the evening, about 8.30 I think it was, the time, somewhere after 8. And upon looking this area over, to the right of this area, was a very large swastika dug

into the ground. Now that has, sort of, looks like, or goes back to a Dansky, I don't know why it reminds me of a Dansky, but I think they mention, he mentions somewhere in his writings, swastikas of some sort. But this gigantic swastika was turned over. It was about 2.30. 3 feet wide and very regular, a very, very good job. Could it have been a sign? We didn't know. I don't know either. But we all picked up our shoes, and I rolled down my pant legs, and I had on a pretty expensive

pair of pants. They said they were going to meet at the Wackatee-Biltmore, and I didn't want to look undressed, and I had ruined them in this red clay and mud and everything. And they said they were going to meet at the Wackatee-Biltmore, and I didn't want to look undressed. I had ruined them in this red clay and mud and everything. And I rolled them down, and we walked back down to the car, feeling that we had accomplished our mission. And that ended the experience, or the expedition, the day after the saucer came to Honolulu. It was very, very exciting. It kept going, though. More people were seeing saucers over Honolulu from the 1st of January to the 1st of June

of this last past year, 1956. There were over 600 reported sightings to the Air Force on, over 600 reported sightings. That's quite a few sightings a day. A number of planes have been missing. They go up and they don't come back. They search for them in the ocean, they can't find any oil slits. One of our colonels here in Los Angeles, the 7th of November of this month, made a statement that there were over 1,600 planes missing in the last two years, and over 2,000 men, pilots and crew. Pilots and men with the planes missing also. He doesn't understand why. Do we have a good side and a bad side to this flying saucer? Myself, along with another, a master sergeant from the Army, watched jets chase a saucer

over the islands of Walla. We weren't alone. There were other people reported seeing it, but he had called me and I went outside and saw it also. Jets chasing this disc-shaped object at a very high altitude. They didn't fly into a cloud, but they went over a cloud. The disc came out, but I never saw the plane come out. And that evening, in the evening paper, it was reported, marine missing, marine pilot and plane missing. They were searching the area for where a plane goes into the ocean, and they usually leave for the smaller areas. I was thinking, God, that's the first thing the author was going to ask me. He said, well, in the first place, you can't see the plane. They need to be in the sun. The sun is out, OK? We're going to be in there long enough to see the plane. As we were taking off, and it started to get very launched, and now the glider started flying a little faster. It was probably a little slower than a flying saucer.

And to get a flying saucer, you have to do the flying saucer run, which is a very, very fast run. And that's the first thing. And then, we continued flying saucers. He didn't see a flying saucer. We tried to, and he said, well, have you seen any flying saucers lately? And, as I said, we were getting there. And we laughed and said no, because we knew how he felt, and we felt sorry for him.

So he said, well, you know, last evening, a very, very strange thing happened. I said, oh, guess what? He said, well, I had to get some flying time in, and I told my wife I'd be a little late. Good boy, was she burned up when I got home. He said, I went down to take the plane up, and I was grounded. He said they would allow nothing off the field for four hours, and nothing was allowed to come in. Everything was coming in on International, which is a joining Hickam field,

but they weren't allowing anything to come in on Hickam. There was a UFO over the field. It was dark, and it was prior to the H-bomb test at Bikini,

and they had the added bombs, I suppose, somewhere there, and they were there. And the planes that were going to drop the bombs were at Hickam Field, and they had guards of all kinds around them. I know I lost some of the men out of my office. They had to do a special duty to go down and guard these planes. And I was talking to not one of them, but several of the boys, and they told me they saw an inverted cone of light over this one particular ship, this dark blue. The one that I believe was supposed to have dropped the bomb, this H-bomb, or one of the H-bombs. An inverted cone of light over that ship. This happened about two days before the actual test drop, before they flew down to that area. And this one boy said, I appeared to the daylights, and I called for the corporal guard, and he didn't come, so he fired a rifle. He shot up into the air and got caught. He was shot, of course, for doing it. But he was scared.

He didn't know what was coming off. He never saw light to look like that. It wasn't coming from the ground, but it was coming down from something that he couldn't see above him. Those things are going on over in that particular area of the world, and there I was, right in the middle of it. And I hated to leave, but my discharge was up the 30th of September. And so I... I left for the States about the last part of August, and upon returning to the States, I find out that we were all supposed to be visited on the 7th of November, but some more of it. And I didn't... I was working that night. I can't say anything about that, whether they came or not. I didn't see any. It was a little funny, though. I watched the skies the entire day, and I noticed the Air Force were quite concerned the day before. I didn't see any overcast. It was very, very clear to me. But November the 7th, there was overcast and quite a bit of it.

It was all vapor trails. They had planes up there or something. I don't know what. And the following day, the 8th of November, it was nice and clear to me. So I believe the Air Force expected something. Maybe they chased him away. I don't know. It's quite possible that... that they did come in and knew that if they were to show themselves, that they were going to be able to do something. I don't know.

I don't know. So I think that I could understand that there was a plane that was waiting for anybody. So I thought that if they were to come in and knew that if they were to show themselves that we were going to head out that

and possibly somebody might get killed, and they didn't want that to happen. That's how I explained it away. But before I left Hawaii, a flying saucer landed in my backyard. Not a flying saucer. I didn't know what it was until I got out to it. but I was quite concerned about studying things of this nature so I took a room with a colonel he was the base commander I thought he would be a good person to talk to and get acquainted with so he had three little children and he needed a babysitter and someone to mow his yard so I applied for the job and I had a private room and a bath that's something the other guys did and I had a private entrance I could do my own washing it was right outside my room it was very convenient and my library was growing quite fast so I had to have somebody or I had to have some place to put my books and the guys in the barracks every time I get a book they tear the pictures out of it and go around and show them to each other

I couldn't control it too much but I tried to I didn't want to create any hard feelings because it was just a couple dollars for the book and and I thought it might help them to understand that there were such things as flying saucers so I let them go ahead and tear it but I took this room it was very nice and very convenient and I pursued the study into the occult sciences and spiritualism I don't think I missed anything after that and one evening I was the colonel had gone away and I was babysitting and I was a little tired I think I mowed the yard that day and I put the children they were quite young I put them all to bed and I was sitting on the back porch looking up into the heavens and it was really beautiful the sun had just gone down and it wasn't quite dark but it wasn't daylight and as I was sitting there a streak of light seemed to go across Pearl Harbor a very high altitude and I thought that time that is a flying saucer

I wonder where it's going and I looked up into the sky and I didn't give it too much thought and looked beyond it and tried to look beyond the stars I was inspired that in doing so one might find or one might even see God or his beauty or whatever you might be seeking if you could project your mind to such a dimension to way beyond the stars I was in a real mood at evening I guess and so I thought well I better get to bed because I had to get up quite early to get to work and it was a little walk to where I worked and while I was getting ready for bed a flashing object I thought it was lightning but then I remembered that they don't have thunderstorms in Hawaii or they do not and I've never seen any thunder or heard any thunder or saw any lightning over there and then I thought I dismissed it as it being a jet it must have been a jet that passed over but then I said well I didn't hear any noise but it illuminated quite a bit of the area around where we lived

so I just dismissed it from my mind and I went on to bed and when I did I was thinking about I wonder if that could have it could have been a saucer and this and that and trying to still my mind for sleep and I was thinking about and suddenly I slipped into sort of a dream state I don't know what it was and I looked up and there stood Crex Town again and he said come I have something to show you and I looked back at my body now this is bad for me I can't understand it maybe I read too many books I don't know but I looked back and I saw my body lying there and I was quite disturbed about it and I said come we don't have too much time and at that particular time my body left the bed and I seemed to be absorbed with it anyhow it wasn't there any longer and I found myself walking out the back door and across the cool crisp glass grass to this spaceship that was sitting or not sitting it was near the ground in the back of the colonel's house

and there's lunch and I said man this is this object here it uh it was around it looked like a big pearl sitting there and uh it uh it was rather large for uh something of that particular size I mean of that for that particular area of the world everything over there is rather small the arms and everything but uh

[52:00] Audience questions: sightings and evidence

I was quite flabbergasted I did not know how to I did not know how to uh to go about this not at all I was just sitting there I was just sitting there I was just sitting there I was a little scared again I was a little scared again uh what would the military think uh here I am living at a full colonel the base commander's home uh what's what's going to become of this is this real I couldn't quite understand it and he said come on we must hurry and I entered we entered and this time I left uh the planet earth I didn't go too far and we went to a a gigantic uh spacecraft that over somewhere in that vicinity I suppose uh and entered this uh this conference uh aboard this mother mothership and it was quite interesting I met people from very uh from many of the various planets and uh I was quite uh intrigued by this one particular person who claimed he was from the planet Pluto he was a real uh weird looking person I mean he was human and all of that but I mean

he was very sensitive looking he seemed very nice um I go into quite a bit of detail also explaining the interior and uh this ship was controlled by the mothership it had a magnetron through the center the force uh field was directed to the ship and uh it was uh either put on or shut off it was uh put on it went down it was shut off it went up and uh within a few seconds after uh the door closed we were going up and the magnetron upon entering glowed sort of a sort of a uh onyx it looked like uh sort of a brownish orange stone and upon acceleration it glowed a very brilliant red it was very beautiful the interior of the ship uh I saw no light of any kind I mean any visible light or source of light but the interior of the ship glowed a very blue purple to begin with and as uh the uh as the color of the magnetron in the center colored to the more brilliant red it seemed to get more purpleish white there were no seats to set upon there was sort of something that looked like seats

around the outside of it but uh we stood still and uh I was told to stand still and our feet or my feet did anyhow sunk into the floor sort of uh something sewn into a sponge rubber but it wasn't sponge rubber I know that something similar to uh to take up the shot from leaving there was a certain amount of sensation there to begin with but as we uh kept climbing it seemed to wear off and it was just a matter of minutes before uh we were up into this uh into this mother craft the way of entry into the mother craft was sort of like if you were to drop a pea in a bowl of soup or something I guess or a bowl of gravy it just sort of slipped in and sealed itself off so I was told I mean that was the explanation that was given to me uh and in the conference I I uh I hope to uh to hold off on that and put it in my book because I think it's a very interesting uh piece of news or source of research it uh it sure opened my eyes on a lot of things and a lot of things that I was

uh that I knew about but I wasn't I didn't understand I wanted to understand it uh was revealed to me at that time and I after after we left we were there for about three hours I came back and I remember coming into the house and going back to bed and when I got awake uh in the morning I was in my downpiece and the back door was open which uh I never do I bolt off the back door but it bothered me an awful lot I didn't know whether this was another dream or what it was so real it was so very real But that was the only way I could explain it. That was the only way I could understand it. It must have been a dream. Well, shortly afterwards, I got a letter from a woman who I didn't know. She lives somewhere in Washington, the state of Washington. And she said, I have a message for you from Ashgar that you have been quite concerned over your experience.

And here, I'll read his letter, and then I guess I'd better close before it gets cold out there. It says, My dear friend, although you have personally made a very good and dependable contact with some of your space friends, I am of the opinion that a personal letter from me will not come amiss and will be followed up by a more direct contact when suitable conditions prevail and I have the time to spare.

This does not in any way imply a lack of interest on my part, but since you have stored in your superconscious, conscious mind the memory of the conference you attended and what you remember in part, you will realize the tremendous responsibility you've all win a parliament to concentrate my undivided attention on the various strategic points where my men are directing the activities of the units under their command.

I have heard excellent reports of you both in regard to your work in your official capacity, your personal influence, and more particularly, your receptability to suggestions mentally conveyed to you by the very public. I am of the opinion that you are a fine group of invisible associates who have been attracted to you through the magnetism of your personality and your sincerity.

Or perhaps singleness. That's in parentheses. I don't even know what it means. But pertinence would express it better. I am asking my scribe, Mrs. H., to send you a folio containing all communications she has transcribed at my direction since I have first made contact with her

through our museum. And I am trying to get you to know that she is a very special friend of mine, a mutual friend, who has been a personal friend of mine for a score of years or more and has been her own guardian and sponsor for over 30 years. We spacemen have a way of getting around, as you would say, and making friends in a great many different ways and different places. Here's hoping our friendship may be a long and pleasant one and lead to many worthwhile experiences in the near future. Do not try to force this to us, please just let it flow naturally in. Go on. It was on My Hand and Everlasting Friendship, signed Ashtar. I was really flabbergasted after reading that. I mean, I didn't know what to do. I was quite proud in getting a letter from one who called himself Ashtar because I had read his books, or his proceedings, or whatever you would call them, in Days to Come, I think they are. And they were very, very interesting.

But here I got a personal letter from him. And I was really flabbergasted. And so it caused me to think a little more concerning the experience I did have and try to remember as much as I possibly could to pass on to the people who would someday want to read about it. And in my book, The Knight Has a Thousand Saucers, I hope to present those bags. And that is about it. All I have time for this evening, folks, I hope I haven't been too much of a bore. And if I get a chance, I hope to come back this way again. A few announcements I'd like to make. Mr. George Zansky has just made contact again with Fire and Saucers. I'm sure you people will be hearing about it in the near future. And I see there's something else. Oh, yes, I have a contact coming up pretty soon, so I understand. So if it happens, why, I'll be sure to put Ramona on my list. And if any of you people would be interested in taking a flying saucer ride sometime in the future,

maybe we can have it arranged. Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Yes. How are you tonight? Fine, Mr. Coates. All these people are your followers? And would you explain a little better than I did, perhaps, the purpose of this meeting? I'm sure you know, I know. I know. this gathering tonight? The purpose is to await the expected visit of the... Now, what makes you

so sure that it'll be coming tonight? What were you told by these space people? I've been told

that you have some of these tapes with you tonight. Are they tapes, did you say? Tape recorded messages. Yeah, well, the messages. Anyway, do you have some of them with you this evening? We sure do. I wonder if we could hear just a few minutes of them. Certainly. Jim, can we pick that up? Would you like to hear them now? Yeah, please. We've got that turned on, Jim. I'm not getting it here.

Yes, ma'am. Space Confederation. Your people. Indeed. Yes, ma'am. King's English. Yes, ma'am.

How would they attire? Normal dress. Everyone that I have seen so far have no plans to close or nothing extraordinary to make them stand out. Yes. Do you know anything about the space of one of our ships that was held in suspension last January out there in the way for four hours? I heard something of that, and that was the same day this particular ship disappeared. Now, what else went on? I don't know. There was so much happening at that particular time that it was quite hard to keep up with all of it. But I know... I went to the PIO, which is the Public Information Office, to try to get some facts. And I gave a story through them that I had written for a magazine, and they wouldn't approve it.

And he said...you, people in the flying saucers. He said...he showed me two file cabinets. He said, we have filled them in six months. So... He showed what? Two file cabinets. Oh. And he said, we have filled those two file cabinets... happens in six months of reports yes they offer you any food did you see any food at all no i

not nothing in that uh might evolve what was the significance of this cold light

like inverted you said i don't know i can't uh explain that but uh it was seen by a number of boys at a group field you mean the point was down the point was down okay don't you think that might have been nullifying the effects of the bottom wasn't that well i don't know if the bottom was in the plane that it might have had something it might have still nullified the effects of the yes it's quite fun the bomb was placed there afterwards yes sir we saw that same thing outside cleveland outside the narrow ring ohio oh is that right 53 and uh after the uh cone uh the object or whatever was producing the cone or whatever

was producing the light evidently had disappeared it took about 45 minutes until this cone just melted a little bit of time it melted away it didn't just go out and that really shook them up

well i didn't know what it was well i hope so

when was your first contact what month and year what month and year was your first contact my the first one that i that i ever saw i mean actually with physical eyes

was in september of 1945 but i didn't know what it was and what was your first contact was in september 1952 i was in washington yes would we deduce from the letter

from that time that you really did have the physical experience well that's what i hope for anyhow i didn't know uh but out of the clear blue sky i got i get this letter i have received many others from him personal letters uh i also received every now and then some of his proceedings I guess you might call them from he and other ones and I think uh I think they're all very wonderful and they're serving a purpose definitely yes uh their planet Venus and uh Mars

and well they were from all the planets within this universe on the ones that I met at the conference but Craig Stan uh he claims he is from the planet Venus it must be very beautiful

yes that was written through uh this is Mrs. Hill in Cobleville Washington

we saw her we heard a lady speak about the sense of it over Hawaii and she said that the

uh spaceship at that time reached from Diamond Head to Pearl Harbor about 16 miles and when she said that the spaceship reached from Diamond Head to Pearl Harbor about 16 miles and when she said that the spaceship reached from Diamond Head to Pearl Harbor about 16 miles and there was very there was a lot of them that saw it she said and that the plane that disappeared

or they just held it in suspension in the air well the object I saw was very high I mean there were clouds in the area they went it looked as though they might have gone in the cloud but they were way above the clouds so that the object came out that the plane didn't and I asked a few questions and I always got the same running around prior to my discharge I uh it was almost like uh I'm not married but I know that uh being in the in the

service uh you see guys with their wives and uh whenever you go on six hole you see a lot of women sitting around I was getting to be that way with the OSI it's the Office of Special Investigation

for the Air Force every time you looked around I was heading off to the OSI and asked some more questions and I was going to be the OSI and I was going to be the OSI and I was going to be the OSI

[01:10:00] Audience questions: meaning, belief, and speculation

I was told, I was told, a finger pointed right at my nose and told to shut up and be careful

and you clear this and you don't say that and you don't. I was told what to do, how to do, and everything else. So I was asked to talk a few times at some of the lectures or some of the programs they had in the way that I never did because I knew a friend of mine, they had him in a mental institute right now, and he talked on the mass of our message. Is the mission of all of you people to the earth friendly? Yes, very, very friendly, but it seems as though we do have, we do have forces or people,

not forces, they are actually people as human as you and I that have other intentions in mind also that are coming through. Sometimes. They are the ones who cause the various things to happen that we would normally say was a terrible thing in some ways. Do you happen to know anything about the case between the mainland and Hawaii being, you

know, it was broken, it was, and the messages did not run. It started like a stop, a stop, a freeze, like the force field of a foster, or mother's

child could have been on it so that messages could not have, you said it was the first time that, I heard it was the first time that had happened since the building was broken, you know, laying on the case. That's quite possible that they would be interested and they are interested in our communications. Now, I was told when I was reading things of a secret nature that my mind and my thoughts

were being edited. My mind wasn't my own, I guess, but it was being used, yes, and I perhaps was directed

to the right ones. You were transmitting to them. Yes, that's the word I was trying to use. Is there a very great danger of those of us whose minds are not in complete control by ourselves to be used by forces that are not true and good? Very deadly. Yes.

I would assume that is true, certainly, obviously. I think we should learn from this that we should be very awake to what's happening. I mean, if we do not sleep at all, we should protect ourselves by asking for higher portions too each time. Very true. Yes sir. What did they plan to do here? Well, it has been, it has been presented to the people of the world, many, many times in the past. Yes sir. in the past number of years in various mediums of books and different things and if you read

your Bible you will find out I am including the chapter in my book about spacemen in the Bible and if you go back to the beginning I think it's in the fifth chapter of Genesis where they speak of the men of old and the men of renown that came down out of the heavens and they saw the daughters of earth as being fair and they took unto them these daughters as their wives I believe

that before this planet was inhabited that there was a particular type of evolution going on here in the animal kingdom and some of these animals were walking upright and we are perhaps they're

a ancestors and these men who were colonizing this particular planet maybe away being lonely and away

from home and they found the daughters as being quite fair and took them as wives and they reared a they reared a race of people that way and then it says then God breathed into men and

gave him a living soul after this happened I mean that's how I interpret the Bible and if I know it's happened if you go someplace and you get into trouble some through this trouble you

haven't maybe there's a what people would call an illegitimate child brought into the world you would be quite concerned and every now and then whenever you perhaps you had an extra five or ten or twenty dollar bill you might send it in that direction well I think it's a similar situation I mean we are the legitimate children here on this world on this planet and in time of need and distress we are being helped by our ancestors who live I mean I don't know that doesn't

go that isn't a very good presentation I don't know but reading my chapter of Genesis between

the lines and picked and apples it's mentioned quite often the other yep I don't think that saying we cannot be intelligent is not incredibly do something in advance as we all hill is only one payment do something in advance as we all didn't come here for nothing unfortunately and nothing because ocean is both yeah I think that's an explanation of the thoughts in the gallery of the picture of the universe, where all the thoughts are there permanently, and I just wondered if you looked into that, you know, in your investigation. Well, I haven't done too much in that particular field. Flying saucers have been growing into such a tremendous field that you have to know everything or you don't know anything about saucers today. Yes, sir? Have they said anything about the future, such as the possibility of a war, or anything about a polar split? There is mention, mention has been made of this planet turning into a new sun, that a

system of evacuation is being studied at the present time. As it says in the Bible, again, some will be taken, others left. Perhaps you people who belong to understanding, maybe you, I don't know, I don't know if I am,

but it seems as though religion is a wonderful thing. Religion can be a man's money in his pocket, and it can be something that's good, good for what people call God. Yes. The way I was brought up in religion or Christianity, I'm inclined to believe a certain amount of

it, but not all of it, and I think a lot of it, and most of it's symbolic, and it means

something, and it's for us to find out that, and to each person, it might mean something different, in order for them to grow in understanding. Yes. There's a lot of awkward feel.

Well, it all depends upon the person.

There are many ways to go from here to New York City, and walk, that's a slow way, or you can fly, that's a fast way. If it's fast for you to be regressed, to attain it, divinity, or that knowledge that you're seeking, well, then you have someone to regress you. I mean, that's how I would look at it. Is that a practice that would happen? That would happen, I mean, to the person? To go backward, you have to go forward. You have to go backward in order to go forward, or something like that. Well, sometimes, you know, if you go in... What I mean is, is there any good out of it to come out? Sometimes, when you park too close to the curb, you have to back up before you can pull out, and get anywhere, so it might apply the same way there. Well, at least it was valuable. We got a lot of information on the life of Mars. I mean, you know, we had to take off our glasses, and I think we had to take off our glasses probably for about 2,000 years ago.

That sounds quite... It was interesting that nothing happened since then. I asked a question a lot about polar cliff and the war, and I think you... I should have only asked one question you mentioned about the polar cliff. I don't think you said anything about the war. Well, but war is something that I can talk about too much of it, because I've been in

one of them, and almost, while I was in the Korean, I was in the Korean situation, but I was in the service camp. And... during that time i don't look forward to it i hope no one else does i think if we turn our attention to something that's good and lift up our eyes to god lift our consciousness to higher think of peace and our thoughts will all go that direction i think the world may be averted if everybody keeps thinking along the same lines i sure hope so it's not nice to see someone get killed or die well i guess we've got to leave you people go one question in the back i wanted to ask about these great people um are they still going to us or are there

more well uh crex 10 was about a person of my same height and features with the exception he had

i shouldn't say this he had beautiful teeth teeth, very beautiful teeth, they were his own, and he had big, very big eyes, extremely

large eyes, to where they were very obvious. People would say, my goodness, that person

has very large eyes. It was his hair low, 10 feet.

When did George Adams make his last conference? I think it was this month sometime, the first part of this month. Was it down in Old Mexico? No, it was up here in the desert someplace. Yes? Did they have lines in their face the same as we eat? I beg your pardon? Did they have lines in their face the same as we eat? Oh, yes, yes. The facial characteristics were all the same. I mean, yes, there are wrinkles, yes. When you were at this conference, were the people, did they all sing rather youthful, or was it... Were they different ages? Well, you know, if you have something that's old, it's still beautiful. I mean, not just in appearance, but you know it's old, but it's still beautiful and youthful looking and new looking. Something, an atmosphere of that particular type, perhaps, and they were all very, very loving type of people. I mean, you didn't even have to talk, and I knew that it was just something that went

between. I mean, you, a fellowship or a communion or something in with it that seemed... In with beauty. It was really beautiful, and we sat around and watched color seem to be very, very predominant with them, and they had this color on the screen that went through many, many beautiful forms of all different colors coming together, and it was with music, and the music and the color seemed to mean something to them. Yes. It was very, very beautiful to watch, and it would take one into a stillness within himself, that you could go within yourself and not feel alone, but the whole group felt with one, and you were all thinking the same thing. That's just one mind there. Yes. Do you think they were trying to teach us their way of life? Very definitely. That is why groups such as this are very important, isn't it?

They experienced death. That, I mean. I don't think we've talked about anything about it. I don't. If death is an interesting thing, then you understand it, but I don't know too much about it, but we haven't even done it before. I mean, I'm never going to hurt you. I guess we better close it down. It's getting a little late.